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Topic: Magic Café Search/Google Search
Message: Posted by: Ken Northridge (Oct 7, 2010 06:19AM)
Since the Café search function is not only not working but has been completely removed from the site, I wondering if there were any tips for searching Google. I seem to be getting way too many results that are meaningless. Should I repeat certain key words?

Sorry if this question has already been asked. I was going to do a search, but... :)
Message: Posted by: Michael J. Douglas (Oct 7, 2010 07:01AM)
As an example, say you were searching for "Ken Northridge." You would enter this into Google:

"ken northridge" site:themagiccafe.com
Message: Posted by: Ken Northridge (Oct 7, 2010 07:13AM)
Yup, that's much better. Thanks!
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Oct 10, 2010 05:26PM)
Thanks Mike, I never knew this.
Message: Posted by: Olympic Adam (Oct 10, 2010 06:26PM)
Yeah if I'm doing a bunch of searches I type the site:themagiccafe.com first so changing the end is easier and I can do without the quotation marks

site:themagiccafe.com tommy pad

would be my search (just does without the " " and you can change it faster)
same goes for any site or forum, as long as the full main address goes in it
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Oct 15, 2010 05:12PM)
The search I would do more than any was: Search for all new posts in the last 24 hours. I was able to see what the newest hot topics were being talked about. I don't think there is anyway to do that one with Google. I find I come to the Café much less now than I used to.
Message: Posted by: Ruben Padilla (Oct 21, 2010 01:03PM)
Is this removal of the search function temporary or permanent???

If it's permanent, I'll be here a LOT less. (Moderators, I hope you're reading this.)
Message: Posted by: RS1963 (Oct 22, 2010 09:43AM)
Using google as a replacement for the Café's search engine actually is better. You can do one search after another, without the very annoying "Sorry you can't do another search so soon blah blah" I was annoyed at first by the removal of the search function but now I don't really notice it is gone.
Message: Posted by: gdw (Oct 22, 2010 09:49AM)
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On 2010-10-22 10:43, RS1963 wrote:
Using google as a replacement for the Café's search engine actually is better. You can do one search after another, without the very annoying "Sorry you can't do another search so soon blah blah" I was annoyed at first by the removal of the search function but now I don't really notice it is gone.
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True, that delay between searches was often annoying.

Although, it does still come up, in a round about way, if you click on "View this user's posts in last 30 days," which is how I usually find topics I'm discussing when I forget where they are, and then try again relatively shortly after, or accidently double click on it, the "5 minute" thing becomes an issue.

It doesn't poop up with the message however, probably due to the removal of the regular search itself, it just takes you right to the main Café page. Was rather confusing the first time, as I had just searched my own posts, and then it was like the link was broken juts a minute later, lol.
Message: Posted by: RS1963 (Oct 22, 2010 10:52AM)
I have done the same thing gdw. but haven't had the issue that you have run into. Now before sure all the time when searching members posts. Haven't had that happen now. Doesn't mean I won't but so far have just been lucky I guess.
Message: Posted by: gdw (Oct 22, 2010 10:56AM)
Ok, am I really going crazy? (More so RS1963)

I swear I posted more in here. And I was saying the same thing as others here, so I'm not sure what happened.
Message: Posted by: RS1963 (Oct 22, 2010 01:45PM)
Nah gdw I don't think you are. I perhaps am. I guess when I had used the post search option I had given enough time so I wasn't taken back to the main Café page.

As for posts being deleted? Well we know how that goes here without saying too much more.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Oct 22, 2010 01:49PM)
Most of the time if my post never shows up, it's because I navigated away from the message without submitting. Maybe you're less scatterbrained than I am, but I'm pretty sure it's my number one cause of "no message". Of course, I never say anything controversial ;)

John
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Oct 22, 2010 03:03PM)
Google's search is a thousand time more sophisticated that the Café's is/was anyhow, and with no time restriction between searches. No big loss...
Message: Posted by: Woland (Oct 22, 2010 03:12PM)
But I don't think Google can search the secret sessions, etc.

Woland
Message: Posted by: gdw (Oct 22, 2010 04:18PM)
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On 2010-10-22 14:49, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
Most of the time if my post never shows up, it's because I navigated away from the message without submitting. Maybe you're less scatterbrained than I am, but I'm pretty sure it's my number one cause of "no message". Of course, I never say anything controversial ;)

John
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And surprisingly, I don't think I've really had any "controversial" posts deleted, except for when they go along with an entire thread.
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Oct 22, 2010 06:52PM)
[quote]
On 2010-10-22 16:03, gaddy wrote:
Google's search is a thousand time more sophisticated that the Café's is/was anyhow, and with no time restriction between searches. No big loss...
[/quote]

If that's true Gaddy, please tell how to search for all the recent posts. This was the search I used the most to see what people were talking about. If I can do this with Google, I'd be a very happy guy.
Message: Posted by: Micheal Leath (Oct 22, 2010 07:12PM)
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On 2010-10-22 19:52, rockwall wrote:
please tell how to search for all the recent posts. This was the search I used the most to see what people were talking about. If I can do this with Google, I'd be a very happy guy.
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Try this:

Go to Google and type site:themagiccafe.com/forums hit enter or click search

Look on the left hand side of the page and click "show search tools"

You should now see "Past 24 hours"

Click it and see if that is what you want.
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Oct 22, 2010 08:11PM)
[quote]
On 2010-10-22 20:12, Micheal Leath wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-10-22 19:52, rockwall wrote:
please tell how to search for all the recent posts. This was the search I used the most to see what people were talking about. If I can do this with Google, I'd be a very happy guy.
[/quote]

Try this:

Go to Google and type site:themagiccafe.com/forums hit enter or click search

Look on the left hand side of the page and click "show search tools"

You should now see "Past 24 hours"

Click it and see if that is what you want.
[/quote] To be fair, I believe there is a short interval between when something is posted and when google caches it -but it's not very long...
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Oct 24, 2010 09:16PM)
[quote]
Try this:

Go to Google and type site:themagiccafe.com/forums hit enter or click search

Look on the left hand side of the page and click "show search tools"

You should now see "Past 24 hours"

Click it and see if that is what you want.
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Thanks! I was hoping some google experts might have an answer.

It's close but still not nearly as nice. At least how I did it, (I think I followed your directions), it seems to provide links to the latest searches organized by section. You don't really know which section until you click on each link. I would prefer it to just give all the latest posts on the entire Café. (Even if not updated immediately.) This way you spot new posts on new effects, items for sale, hot topics, etc. Anyway to narrow it down that way?

Thanks again,
Mike
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Mar 2, 2011 10:23PM)
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On 2010-10-07 08:01, Michael J. Douglas wrote:
As an example, say you were searching for "Ken Northridge." You would enter this into Google:

"ken northridge" site:themagiccafe.com
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OK, it works, but you get an alphabetical list rather than a dated one which I would prefer.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hallahan (Mar 25, 2011 10:16PM)
See also [url=http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=409062&forum=32]Handy Tip for Searching The Magic Café[/url] for another search site.
Message: Posted by: critter (Apr 5, 2011 12:28PM)
Bump, because I needed this so somebody else might too.