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Topic: The Mysterious Puzzle of The Missing Dollar Bill
Message: Posted by: jerdunn (Oct 17, 2010 02:36PM)
Anyone seen this release from Nicholas Einhorn? The ad reads:

"A famous puzzle is brought to life with this simple-to-do and highly entertaining routine which seems to defy logic!

THE FAMOUS PUZZLE...
"Three diners finish their meal. The waiter says the check is $30, so each guest pays $10. Later the waiter realizes the check should only be $25.

To rectify this, the waiter returns a dollar bill to each of the three diners and they give the final $2 to the waiter, as a tip for his honesty.

Now that each diner has been given $1 back, each has paid $9, taking the total paid to $27. Add to that the $2 tip they gave to the waiter and the total is $29.

If the guests originally paid $30, where did the missing dollar go?"

THE ROUTINE
After the above puzzle has been told the magician explains that maybe it would be easier to work out what happens to the final dollar if he uses real money as he tells the story.

That being said he clearly shows $30 and with actions to match the story, the money is re-counted and bizarrely a real one dollar bill is missing!

A final bill is added to once again total $30. The spectators confirm there are definitely $30. Once more the process is repeated and astonishingly the result is the same. A bill disappears!

A true mystery which seems unexplainable and one which they can retell and enjoy long after you have parted.

* IDEAL TO KEEP IN YOUR WALLET FOR THAT 'RIGHT MOMENT'
* 5-SECOND RESET"

Thanks!
Jerry
Message: Posted by: ahobgood (Oct 17, 2010 06:41PM)
I love a good math problem. took me a couple of reads before I could figure it out!
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Oct 17, 2010 07:30PM)
Is a routine based on a complicated math trick really going to play with modern kids who can't figure out how much change is due from a five without a calculator?
Message: Posted by: Alan Rorrison (Oct 17, 2010 07:35PM)
I think your being a little harsh on the " Kids". We are smarter than you think.

He performed this at the L.A.D.S convention and it went over very well. It really is a nice little routine
Message: Posted by: takeachance (Oct 17, 2010 11:05PM)
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On 2010-10-17 20:35, Alan Rorrison wrote:
I think your being a little harsh on the " Kids". We are smarter than you think.

Ha, LOL, I went to the supermarket the other day and my total came to $16.45. I gave the girl $21.45 so I'd get a $5 bill back and get rid of some change, WELL, that threw everything out because the till told her to give change for a 20. Everyone had to wait till I explained it to her. Much to the amusement of the 70 year old waiting behind me.
Message: Posted by: MarvinSanRemo (Oct 17, 2010 11:31PM)
The last time I checked, 3 + 2 is 5, and 30-5 is 25, so all the money is accounted for...
Message: Posted by: TedLashley (Oct 17, 2010 11:51PM)
If anyone's interested, here's a link to the described Nicholas Einhorn effect:

http://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic/close-up-magic/the-mysterious-puzzle-of-the-missing-dollar-bill/

TED
Message: Posted by: RNK (Oct 19, 2010 08:29AM)
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On 2010-10-18 00:05, takeachance wrote:
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On 2010-10-17 20:35, Alan Rorrison wrote:
I think your being a little harsh on the " Kids". We are smarter than you think.

Ha, LOL, I went to the supermarket the other day and my total came to $16.45. I gave the girl $21.45 so I'd get a $5 bill back and get rid of some change, WELL, that threw everything out because the till told her to give change for a 20. Everyone had to wait till I explained it to her. Much to the amusement of the 70 year old waiting behind me.
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LOL, That's funny takeachance- I always pay that way just to see what is going to happen- and..well.... sorry alan- takeachance is right- 99.9% of the time- I have to tell them how much change to give back. Kids today put to much time into electronics, that's not to say they are not smart- it's just that they are not trained properly.

RNK
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Oct 19, 2010 08:51AM)
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On 2010-10-17 20:35, Alan Rorrison wrote:
I think your being a little harsh on the " Kids". We are smarter than you think.

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Not the ones I deal with. The other day I bought something for $6.77. I handed the kid a 10, two ones and two pennies. He looked at the register when the change came up exactly $5.25 in change, blinked, and then asked in amazement "How'd you do that?"

I can't tell you how many times I've repeated that scene or similar ones.

Its not stupidity. Its ignorance, which is something completely different. You can't learn to do math if they don't make you *do* math. Kids stopped learning to do basic math the day they let calculators into what is (now laughingly) called math class. (There are exceptions but they are rare.)
Message: Posted by: takeachance (Oct 19, 2010 10:02AM)
Yeah true, but they make up for it in other ways. My 3 year old grandaughter can navigate an i-phone and it's apps a hell of a lot better and faster than me LOL!
I think this will make us old timers look smarter!
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Oct 19, 2010 10:58AM)
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On 2010-10-19 11:02, takeachance wrote:
Yeah true, but they make up for it in other ways. My 3 year old grandaughter can navigate an i-phone and it's apps a hell of a lot better and faster than me LOL!
I think this will make us old timers look smarter!
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So the future of America is to lose our creation skills and improve our consumption skills?

I used to wonder whether the US today is Brittan just before the fall of the Empire, or Rome at a similar point.

Now I know... its Rome.
Message: Posted by: sanjaya (Oct 19, 2010 05:20PM)
[quote]
On 2010-10-19 11:58, Cyberqat wrote:
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On 2010-10-19 11:02, takeachance wrote:
Yeah true, but they make up for it in other ways. My 3 year old grandaughter can navigate an i-phone and it's apps a hell of a lot better and faster than me LOL!
I think this will make us old timers look smarter!
[/quote]

So the future of America is to lose our creation skills and improve our consumption skills?

I used to wonder whether the US today is Brittan just before the fall of the Empire, or Rome at a similar point.

Now I know... its Rome.
[/quote]

I believe that in Britain, the kids also use spell check.
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Oct 19, 2010 07:24PM)
Here in Taiwan, the kids start doing Algebra in the 6th grade.
Math skills are highly regarded. If you try to do any math based trick here it's pretty hard to fly.

I tried the Micheal Weber socks trick on my wife's cousin, he was 10. He said
"They are still just pairs", and began showing me why I was wrong.

Amazing,
James
Message: Posted by: rowland (Oct 20, 2010 12:52AM)
I am certain Daryl does this and explains it on one of his early lecture videos. Don't know if he ever released it as an effect though, he also explained it using £5 notes for us in the UK.
Message: Posted by: RNK (Oct 20, 2010 07:32AM)
I received my copy yesterday. The routine is not complicated and the instructions are very easy. You do make a gimmick, but its simple and VERY devious. This is going to be a very good workers trick. Reset is pretty much instant.

RNK
Message: Posted by: rowland (Oct 20, 2010 08:53AM)
After reading the above post it is not the same routine as Daryl's
Message: Posted by: MagicMan1957 (Oct 20, 2010 10:29PM)
This puzzle has been around a longggggg time. The version I learned years ago took place at a hotel. This version takes place in a restaurant.

The Daryl version just uses a miscount. This new version seemingly uses a gaff.

Funny, but years ago I made up my own gaff to do this.

You can also perform the puzzle part of this without using any bills at all.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Oct 21, 2010 01:54AM)
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On 2010-10-20 01:52, rowland wrote:
I am certain Daryl does this and explains it on one of his early lecture videos. Don't know if he ever released it as an effect though, he also explained it using £5 notes for us in the UK.
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Inspired by Daryl's original routine 'A Puzzling Bill Vanish' and released with his blessing.
Message: Posted by: sanjaya (Oct 25, 2010 10:29AM)
Just got this and read through it once. I've known the brain teaser for years and always liked it. Yes, it's a gaff, and easy to make. I have not made it up, but this will not be hard to learn. The handling reads very clean and deliberate. If it helps anyone decide, the displays are on the table. That is, you display the bills very cleanly on the table, so your spectators need to be able to see them.

It's really well thought out and I look forward to working on this one.

FWIW, the instructions are very clear with very nice color photos.
Message: Posted by: caigy (Oct 25, 2010 05:05PM)
Can this version be demonstrated with UK currency, as we have £1.00 coins, not notes (bills)?

Paul Mc.
Message: Posted by: einhorn (Oct 28, 2010 02:51PM)
Hi Guys
Thanks for the positive comments about this new release.
A few points: It was indeed released with Daryl's blessing as it is heavily based on his original routine.
Daryl recently said of the routine:

'Nicholas has added a wonderful convincer to one of my favorite "offbeat" routines. Darn! I wish I would have thought of it. Great idea Nicholas!

DARYL

As regards to currency, you can use other currencies BUT the discrepancy of just one dollar is what makes this so unfathomable. Pounds sterling would be way too complicated to follow and as dollars are so recognisable it is easy to justify their use as I talk of three guys on holiday etc....In the booklet I discuss an idea / method which enables the use of coins but you may find (as I did) that it is too much of a bother to carry around the necessary coinage to do this.



Best wishes
Nick Einhorn
Message: Posted by: sanjaya (Nov 17, 2010 02:51PM)
I agree. Paper bills are the way to go. If you don't work in the U.S. the idea of being on vacation in the U.S. is a good premise. If you are in the U.K. using 5 pound notes would probably work technically, but I think the premise of missing just one single dollar is better than missing 5 pounds. Also, it becomes a much more expensive lunch! The fact that U.S. bills are all the same size could be important too.
Message: Posted by: mike storz (Nov 17, 2010 06:36PM)
Can we get this as a download?
Message: Posted by: sanjaya (Nov 19, 2010 01:23PM)
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On 2010-11-17 19:36, mike storz wrote:
Can we get this as a download?
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If you do, it's pirated. It comes in a nicely (very nicely) printed booklet.
Message: Posted by: ixnay66 (Feb 22, 2011 09:43AM)
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On 2010-10-19 18:20, sanjaya wrote:
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On 2010-10-19 11:58, Cyberqat wrote:
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On 2010-10-19 11:02, takeachance wrote:
Yeah true, but they make up for it in other ways. My 3 year old grandaughter can navigate an i-phone and it's apps a hell of a lot better and faster than me LOL!
I think this will make us old timers look smarter!
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So the future of America is to lose our creation skills and improve our consumption skills?

I used to wonder whether the US today is Brittan just before the fall of the Empire, or Rome at a similar point.

Now I know... its Rome.
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I believe that in Britain, the kids also use spell check.
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I was wondering if I was the only one who caught that. SNAP!
Message: Posted by: ted french (Feb 22, 2011 09:55AM)
The "kids" are just as dumb or smart as they have always been. They are also as rebellious and disrespectful to adults as they have always been however it is my opinion that the kids today, at least in America have a great appreciation for the differences and complexities for those that make up the human race so I see that aspect of modern young people as an improvement. I think our pop music sucks though, I would gladly trade Buddy holly, Otis Redding or Jerry Lee Lewis for Kesha, Weezer or Lady Gaga anyday.
Message: Posted by: magicgerry06 (May 29, 2012 01:04PM)
I am very interested in buying this trick as it would be a nice introduction to another routine I do
based also on easy math and classic principles ( http://youtu.be/onLLEUdi-_g )
but I need to use something else than dollar bills .
- Can this trick be done with paper other than bills ( cards, photos, ...)
- Can I use fake bills (photocopies) ?
- Can the bills (or else ?) be laminated ?or does it work only with normal bills of the same size ?

Thanks
Gerry
Message: Posted by: BatsMagic (May 30, 2012 02:35PM)
Come on Ted- Weezer isn't all that bad! I was under the impression that you actually liked that kind of music!

On another note, I definitely agree that the kids of today are pretty darn stupid. I also do the exact same thing as others here, and give change and extra bills to get a $5 or $10 bill back, but they just don't get it. I was accused a half year ago or so of trying to trick the cashier into giving me more money back than I deserved. All I was trying to do was get a $10 bill back instead of $7.89 back (or whatever it was). They refused to take the extra change that I gave them. And so it goes.
Message: Posted by: Justin N. Miller (May 30, 2012 03:03PM)
The very first person I saw perform this really amazing and stumper of a routine was the late great george kirkendal. I saw this back when I was about 15 years old. It is such a great moment when they count again and it still does not add up.
JM
Message: Posted by: magicgerry06 (Jun 3, 2012 05:04PM)
The subject of this topÓc is not the puzzle (Any kids know it) but Nicholas Einhorn's one.
cheers
Message: Posted by: MJ Marrs (Jun 3, 2012 05:46PM)
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On 2010-10-19 18:20, sanjaya wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-10-19 11:58, Cyberqat wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-10-19 11:02, takeachance wrote:
Yeah true, but they make up for it in other ways. My 3 year old grandaughter can navigate an i-phone and it's apps a hell of a lot better and faster than me LOL!
I think this will make us old timers look smarter!
[/quote]

So the future of America is to lose our creation skills and improve our consumption skills?

I used to wonder whether the US today is Brittan just before the fall of the Empire, or Rome at a similar point.

Now I know... its Rome.

[/quote]

I believe that in Britain, the kids also use spell check.
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Lol.
Message: Posted by: magicHart (Jun 9, 2012 06:18PM)
Try this on your favorite waitress sometime. We did at one of the casino bars......she went nuts!
Message: Posted by: bobthemagicdoerguy (Nov 19, 2012 12:50PM)
I originally tried doing this method with bills and coins. I used $25 in bills, and used the change to effect the disappearance.

For those of you who are wondering how to do this with non-American moneys, that may even be a better option as there are many more coin vanishes than bill vanishes I believe...