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Topic: Malini Egg bag pattern search
Message: Posted by: retired (Nov 30, 2010 03:57PM)
Hi everyone,

After having used a standard full width pocket bag for some years, I am trying to sew a Malini type bag and am seeking a pattern. I understand that there was one published in Genii in 1974. If someone could scan the pattern and email it to me it would be a great help. I have read Will Aylings book and am aware of the position and shape of the pocket. However, I am trying to figure out how to sew the seams so that the bag can be turned inside out. At present I am considering just making it with front and back double sided with a single row of stitching on the bottom. Any advice on finishing the edge of the pocket or other design tips would be helpful also.

By the by, I have perfected the construction of blown eggs suitable for this bag, so that you end up with a strong light shell with only a 1mm hole in one end (which is easy to patch if you feel the need.. If anyone wants to know how to do this I am happy to email the method.

I chose the Malini style because it fits well with the routine I want to use.
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Nov 30, 2010 08:52PM)
It is indeed included in Genii, Volume 38, No 1, January Issue (Published in May) of 1974. This is something you can find online yourself by starting at the Genii site ( http://geniimagazine.com/) and using "Ask Alexander." If you are a subscriber, you should be able to do this without problem, otherwise you may have to pay a fee.
Message: Posted by: Jeff Dial (Nov 30, 2010 09:27PM)
It's actually Volume 38, No 12 December Issue (Published Feb 1975) of 1974.

Thanks for the reference.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Nov 30, 2010 10:09PM)
PM me if interested in this article of Magicana in Genii.
Message: Posted by: Bo J (Dec 3, 2010 03:07PM)
In his book "Secrets of an Escamoyeur", Harry Riser describes how to make and use the Malini egg bag. I think that this is one of the better descriptions. The best routine are the one described by Ken Brooke.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Dec 7, 2010 06:05PM)
Bo J, have you seen john carney's routine or Eric DeCamps?
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Dec 10, 2010 02:06PM)
Frank, you are trying to get people in trouble. You know John Carney and Eric DeCamp are the 2 famous magicians you do not want to even think about borrowing anything from. They are strickly hands off their material, in every aspect of the magic they perform. They do not even wnat any part of their acts discribed in words, as they believe it will spoil their work and the surprises they create.
Message: Posted by: Scott Alexander (Dec 21, 2010 01:21AM)
I'd be interested to see that article with the pattern, wmhegbli, do you have it handy??? Tried to PM you but no luck.

-Scott
Message: Posted by: retired (Dec 26, 2010 06:07PM)
UPDATE:

Made two bags out of some very expensive silk. Genii article was just what was needed. I modified the pocket opening to a curved shape.

Performed the basic effect at the end of a now traditional half hour Boxing Day magic show and then after the final egg disappearance I secretly switched for the second bag containing quite a number of small individually wrapped lollipops. I then had a child wave a "Crystal Harry Potter Wand" to bring back the egg!!! Blow me down we got lollipops instead!! which were tipped out into the clambering screaming group of kids. final bow taken...very enthusiastic applause.
Message: Posted by: AmazingA (Feb 5, 2011 04:30PM)
How can one obtain that egg bag pattern or info on the Genii article? Thanks in advance!
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Feb 5, 2011 05:10PM)
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On 2011-02-05 17:30, AmazingA wrote:
How can one obtain that egg bag pattern or info on the Genii article? Thanks in advance!
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The answer to your question is in the above comments. Take a read.
Message: Posted by: Magic_Niels (Feb 6, 2011 01:40AM)
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On 2011-02-05 18:10, wmhegbli wrote:
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On 2011-02-05 17:30, AmazingA wrote:
How can one obtain that egg bag pattern or info on the Genii article? Thanks in advance!
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The answer to your question is in the above comments. Take a read.
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I would also want to obtain the Egg Bag pattern. Could you help me with this?
Message: Posted by: Magic Researcher (Feb 6, 2011 08:40AM)
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On 2011-02-06 02:40, Magic_Niels wrote:
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On 2011-02-05 18:10, wmhegbli wrote:
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On 2011-02-05 17:30, AmazingA wrote:
How can one obtain that egg bag pattern or info on the Genii article? Thanks in advance!
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The answer to your question is in the above comments. Take a read.
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I would also want to obtain the Egg Bag pattern. Could you help me with this?
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Sheesh!

Do you want the pattern or the pattern for FREE? If you really want it, buy it!
MR
Message: Posted by: Magic_Niels (Feb 6, 2011 12:27PM)
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Sheesh!

Do you want the pattern or the pattern for FREE? If you really want it, buy it!
MR
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It was for FREE in Genii Magazine back in the 70's right? So I don't see the problem of asking for some help. But if someone could point out what his favorite egg bag is, I will probably buy it.
Message: Posted by: Julie (Feb 6, 2011 12:30PM)
There's Ireland's Malini Egg Bag listed on Ron Allesi's site now...

J
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Feb 6, 2011 12:41PM)
The magazine was not FREE when it was published, but is still going to be available somewhere. Odds are though, you'll have to search awhile to find someone with an old copy. The hard work has already been done, as the exact issue has already been named.
Message: Posted by: DrVG (Mar 9, 2018 06:40AM)
Do you need to be a haute couture artist to realize the home made bag or basic sewing skills suffice ?
Message: Posted by: DrVG (Mar 9, 2018 06:46AM)
An article on egg bags styles http://magicref.tripod.com/magref/arteggbag.htm
Message: Posted by: JNeal (Mar 9, 2018 10:49AM)
DrVG,

In the Genii Article by Charlie Miller, I believe he writes about how difficult it is to make a Malini style bag. Not that the sewing skills are very advanced, but rather that everything must be precisely accurate in measuring and sewing. There are several methods of making a Malini bag, all of which are designed to give you what appears to be a seamless bag. By that I mean there are few visible stitches. This requires (at least on the method explained in Genii) ‘french seams’ which are inside the double walled sides. Doing this can frustrate the beginning sewer at times.

However, I am a self taught sewer and have made nearly 1000 egg bags using the pattern in Genii. I have also altered the measurements when I was asked to make a bag that was slightly smaller or larger. The pocket edge can be diagonal or rounded and although ‘expensive” 4 ply silk crepe de chine can be used, a perfectly usable bag can be made from polyester crepe for much less.

I suggest working with cheap thin fabric a few times to get comfortable with the sewing steps, and use lots of common pins (not mentioned in the Genii article) to hold the layers in place. Soon you will become adept!
Message: Posted by: drmolarmagic (Mar 22, 2018 11:26AM)
The sewing patterns are all listed in detail in the "egg bag book"- by Novak I've sewn all of them at one time or another and still have many of them. Paper, spiral bound, 8.5 x11 book.
great reference.....its all there
https://www.stevensmagic.com/shop/the-egg-bag-book-john-novak/
Message: Posted by: Yellowcustard (Aug 12, 2019 11:57PM)
[quote]On Mar 22, 2018, drmolarmagic wrote:
The sewing patterns are all listed in detail in the "egg bag book"- by Novak I've sewn all of them at one time or another and still have many of them. Paper, spiral bound, 8.5 x11 book.
great reference.....its all there
https://www.stevensmagic.com/shop/the-egg-bag-book-john-novak/ [/quote]

I have recently got a copy of this book from Stevens magic. They were great in contacting me regarding checking the shipping cost. But that's the reality of living in a small country on the bottom of the world like New Zealand.

How ever the book is amazing so much information. I have already made a few mock up bags from the information. And just playing around with hem techniques and bag sizing. But looking forward to make a bag that is the perfect size for me. I also want to make a identical non gaffed bag to switch out for a finale load.

Cheers for the heads up on this book.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Aug 13, 2019 08:39PM)
Yellowcustard, the way to measure your hand for a Malini Egg Bag pattern, is to trace your hand on paper while the fingers are spread out wide apart. Then trace all your fingers and thumb down to the wrist. Then measure the width from thumb to little finger, and the length from top of index finger to wrist. That is the size to make your bag with extra for hems. When finished, when you place your hand in the bag, and spread out your fingers you should contact the corners and sides of the bag. If you notice this position is an important display move in the routine.
Message: Posted by: Yellowcustard (Sep 9, 2019 10:27PM)
[quote]On Aug 13, 2019, Bill Hegbli wrote:
Yellowcustard, the way to measure your hand for a Malini Egg Bag pattern, is to trace your hand on paper while the fingers are spread out wide apart. Then trace all your fingers and thumb down to the wrist. Then measure the width from thumb to little finger, and the length from top of index finger to wrist. That is the size to make your bag with extra for hems. When finished, when you place your hand in the bag, and spread out your fingers you should contact the corners and sides of the bag. If you notice this position is an important display move in the routine. [/quote]

Bill thank you so much for that comment. I would say I knew a bit more then the average maji about Egg bags. Then I got this book and man there is so much in it. But since I have shared I had this book it has been like a portal and people have been sharing heaps of stuff about Egg bags. Thank you all so much.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Sep 10, 2019 05:04PM)
[quote]On Mar 22, 2018, drmolarmagic wrote:
The sewing patterns are all listed in detail in the "egg bag book"- by Novak I've sewn all of them at one time or another and still have many of them. Paper, spiral bound, 8.5 x11 book.
great reference.....its all there
https://www.stevensmagic.com/shop/the-egg-bag-book-john-novak/ [/quote]


When I browsed the John Novak book at the local magic shop, it was only half size book, and not one drawing or picture of any Egg Bags, they must have had a revised 2nd printing. Because it was all text, I passed on obtaining this book, as such a high price as well.