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Topic: Luke Jermay's Book "Three Types"
Message: Posted by: Agaton (Feb 2, 2011 08:23PM)
Vanishing Inc is releasing a new book regarding the professional Q&A routine of Luke Jermay. For a person who does mental effects on a parlor/standup environment, I am *** curious about this. However, this is something I haven't seen or witnessed before. I was wondering if the wizards here have an idea on what the whole routine is about.

http://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic/mentalism/the-three-types/?utm_source=SurgeRelease&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=General
Message: Posted by: JamieD (Feb 2, 2011 08:28PM)
This sounds awesome. Ive always looked into varying Q&A routines and have seen many performed but never felt comfortable performing one. Jermay is such a brilliant mentalist that this is going to be a definate must have I think!

Jamie Daws
Message: Posted by: Todd Robbins (Feb 2, 2011 10:36PM)
I saw Luke do his Q & A in Las Vegas and it was one the best performances I have ever seen. The reason was that it fit him so very well. It was just brilliant. I don't know anything about this book, so I can't comment about it except to say that if the information comes anywhere to being the real work of Luke's act, then it will be a must read.
Message: Posted by: Sid Helkule (Feb 2, 2011 11:36PM)
At least it hasn't been produced by him, so you're more likely to receive it after paying for it. :)
Message: Posted by: Magical Dimensions (Feb 3, 2011 01:59AM)
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On 2011-02-03 00:36, Sid Helkule wrote:
At least it hasn't been produced by him, so you're more likely to receive it after paying for it. :)
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LOL
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Feb 3, 2011 04:16AM)
Amen to that.

BTW,
You sure look like John Riggs.
James
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On 2011-02-03 00:36, Sid Helkule wrote:
At least it hasn't been produced by him, so you're more likely to receive it after paying for it. :)
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Message: Posted by: Mike Ince (Feb 3, 2011 09:02PM)
I doubt Mr. Jermay would release all the secrets behind his Vegas Q&A act in this book. This will likely be a stripped down version. I've pre-ordered it. I expect the concepts behind the described act to be useful. For $25 I expect a routine that "can be performed in any environment with very little setup", as advertised. I'm sure the Vegas act made use of the benefits offered by performing in a permanent location. I wish I could have seen the act live but how long can a mentalist thrive in a shoddy theater at a casino that also features alcohol-pushing leprechauns?

Luke is brilliant. I'm glad to see he's releasing a product through a respected company like Vanishing Inc. I trust him to create good things and I trust Vanishing Inc. to deliver the product. Now what I'd like to know is when it will be available...
Message: Posted by: parmenion (Feb 4, 2011 02:29AM)
Luke told me it will be available when you'll have a show to Vegas.
As I pre-ordered too, I hope to see you name somewhere to Vegas :)
Message: Posted by: Agaton (Feb 4, 2011 05:31AM)
It will be shipped on Monday, Feb 7. So there guys!
Message: Posted by: dmoses (Feb 4, 2011 11:25AM)
Keeping my expectations low... for $30 I don't expect his Vegas Q&A... but he usually has some nice presentational ideas.
Message: Posted by: Mike Ince (Feb 4, 2011 07:59PM)
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On 2011-02-04 03:29, parmenion wrote:
Luke told me it will be available when you'll have a show to Vegas.
As I pre-ordered too, I hope to see you name somewhere to Vegas :)
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Funny you should mention it. The other day I got a call from this leprechaun...
Message: Posted by: BMWGuy (Feb 7, 2011 06:34PM)
I ordered it today.

I will write a full review once I receive it and read it through.

Alex
Message: Posted by: sebbyg (Feb 9, 2011 01:17PM)
Has anyone received it yet?
What type of "props" are included?
-SAG
Message: Posted by: JohnG (Feb 9, 2011 05:35PM)
I received mine. Looks incredible, and for the right performance setting, should make an amazing impression.

The book is beautifully produced and well written.I have not seen the Vegas show, but it doesn't appear to be stripped down here. There are LOADS of details, performance tips and reference to WHY he makes certain presentational choices.
Props include a stack of custom-printed "personality test" cards. The book also mentions a web link where you can download/print your own cards for future performances.

While I primarily focus on close-up, I'm always looking for new effects to help expand my parlor repertoire. This one looks like a winner.
It depends heavily on presentation and interaction...which I imagine results in a personal and memorable experience.

This is not a typical "read it in 10 minutes" type of effect. It's rich in content and deserves careful reading and re-reading.
Well worth the purchase price in my opinion.

John G
Message: Posted by: BMWGuy (Feb 9, 2011 05:48PM)
Ah John, I am so glad I ordered.

It is on its way to me now.

I cannot wait to receive it.

Alex
Message: Posted by: Magical Dimensions (Feb 9, 2011 08:54PM)
John G
Thanks for your thoughts on this. I will now have to order it. LOL




Ray
Message: Posted by: AttnPls (Feb 10, 2011 09:42AM)
Has anybody else read this book? I am wondering if this material is anything new or just a rehash of existing material. Unfortunately, I'm not finding any other reviews.
Message: Posted by: dmoses (Feb 10, 2011 11:51AM)
It was only released a couple of days ago.
Still in the mail to most of us who ordered.

d
Message: Posted by: Bradley Morgan (Mar 24, 2011 02:17AM)
Very Nice Small book of information. Has a lot of nice ideas that will work if you put the time into actually doing it. Its not his Vegas routine, but a good resource to a very well thought out routine. I will try and post an actual review when I get the time this weekend if nobody ells gets to it first.

Brad
Message: Posted by: M Sini (Mar 24, 2011 05:55AM)
I received this last week and will echo some of the comments above. The book has a lot of nice ideas and if you put the time into it, will provide you with a great Q&A routine. This is something I plan on working into my show at some point.
Message: Posted by: Caleb Wiles (Mar 28, 2011 01:30PM)
Here's the review I posted to my [url=http://www.CalebWilesMagic.com/?cat=1]magic review blog[/url] if anyone is interested:

Unquestionably, one of the strongest mentalism effects in existence is the classic Q&A routine. When performed well it can create the impression that the performer is actually able to read minds. When the entire audience ”thinks” of details about their own lives and the mentalist begins to read them, you can be sure that everyone will be on the edge of their seats. The performer isn’t just revealing the name of a playing card or a word picked out of a book, these revelations are of an extremely personal nature.

There are many methods to accomplishing this effect. While I’ve studied a few, I don’t claim to know them all. I do know enough about the history of the plot to recognize the things that I don’t like about many of the methods. Luke’s version contains none of these issues.

-The routine is self-contained.
-It is a one-man effect (no assistants needed).
-The routine happens in real time (no pre-show work).
-The use of the billets is justified.

First, a few caveats.

Number 1- This is not the routine that Luke used in his Vegas act. He mentions in the book that the routine he uses in theatrical performances is much more involved and is not suitable for most environments. The Three Types is Luke’s solution for a powerful Q&A routine that may be performed almost anywhere.

Number 2- If you are not an experienced performer, you will really have to work to make this routine entertaining. With most magic you can use the trick itself to drive the momentum forward (i.e. Ambitious Card). In the case of a Q&A routine, however, the pacing and flow of the routine is completely controlled by you. There are no real props to hide behind. As a result, you will really have to work on the presentation in order to make this effect pay off for you.

Number 3- This is a professional routine. You need to know what you’re getting into. If you only ever perform magic for friends and family or for a few strangers in a close up setting, this routine won’t be of much use to you. It requires an audience of people who you do not know well personally. If you reveal your brother’s thought-of card, you’re sure to get a reaction. If you tell him the name of his childhood pet, on the other hand, you’ll likely not impress anyone.

Let’s talk about what you get for your money. The book is nicely produced (it was produced by Vanishing Inc, after all) and checks in at 50 pages. You also receive a stack of Personality Test cards that allow you to begin performing the routine immediately. If you need more, you can download the PDF version from their website to print more on your own. The book is broken up into sections: Setup, Preparation Phases, Switches, etc. This is helpful since there is so much going on in the routine.

Everything is explained clearly although it may take a couple of read throughs to make sure it all sinks in. There is only a minimal amount of sleight of hand involved. If you can hold something in finger palm, you’ll have no issues. The memory work is also pretty minimal although you will want to make sure you have the procedure down cold so you can focus completely on the presentation.

Overall, I was very impressed with Luke’s thinking and the routine itself. My only gripe (and it is a fairly big one) has to do with one of the “thoughts” that Luke reads from an audience member. In short, to close the readings section of the performance, he correctly tells a spectator the last time he had sex! I’m not sure about the audiences you perform for, but I can’t imagine many scenarios where I would feel comfortable bringing this up in a paid performance. I’m not saying that that it will never be appropriate, but it certainly depends on the personalities and venue in play. That being said, the routine can be easily tweaked if you wanted to omit this question from the readings altogether.

Billet routines that allow the mentalist to read personal thoughts from the audience have been around forever. However, Luke’s ideas make the billets “psychologically invisible” to the audience. With most billet work, it is at least conceivable that if the performer could have somehow secretly glimpsed the information, he could have revealed the information. With The Three Types this type of thinking is completely cancelled out.

For those looking at adding at Q&A routine to their mentalism performances, The Three Types is worthy of your study.

-Available for $25 from Vanishing Inc. Magic

Caleb
http://www.CalebWilesMagic.com
Message: Posted by: Agaton (Apr 4, 2011 06:02PM)
Amazing review Caleb! Thank you for posing this!

BTW...I ordered your book, High Spots. Still waiting for it on the mail.
Message: Posted by: Caleb Wiles (Apr 5, 2011 12:04PM)
Thanks, Agaton.

I hope you enjoy the book!

Caleb
http://www.CalebWilesMagic.com
Message: Posted by: Dr. Eamon (Apr 11, 2011 04:38PM)
Thanks for the great review Caleb!
Message: Posted by: nique (Apr 29, 2011 01:19PM)
Is it just me or does anyone else find it impossible to use a fingerpalm when handling the provided billets? They're huge; it's almost like full palming a Bike.
Message: Posted by: stevefaulkner (Jun 23, 2011 08:42AM)
Its a great routine and really nicely produced, but does anybody else find it difficult to tell the two types of b***** apart? Maybe it's just my batch.
Message: Posted by: Olympic Adam (Jun 23, 2011 12:00PM)
Thinking of buying this, so sorry can't help with the above question just yet. I may be being rather stupid but in this effect, is it an actual Q&A with real responses from the audience or are they stock lines provided with the book. The reviews mentioning about the sex topic etc coming up in a show. PM me if you would like to respond but not here please.

Also because it is called three types (might be being the stupidest I have ever been again here) it just threw me into thinking that the supplies provided lead to the same performance each time and it is all already scripted. Anyone shed light on this?
Message: Posted by: Amirá (Jun 23, 2011 12:25PM)
Review: The Three Types by Luke Jermay from http://www.amirasideas.com




Time ago I get this book because I love Luke´s ideas about suggestion. This sounds like a real interesting concept, but sadly I felt bad for the
approach of this "Q&A".


Price: $24.99 at
http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/2487

Original description:
In http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/2487


My opinion:

First of all, this isn't a Q&A, rather a mindreading act. There´s a lot of difference there.


The book is nicely made and the props that you get are nicely produce. I cant use it because they are in english and I performr for spanish-talking audiences.

I don't like this approach for a few reasons. This effect really look like a magazine test like Cosmopolitan. The type of question are weird and sound like trivial informations.
The idea behind this is to make the "billets invisible". Is a nice concept but for me the real invisibly of billets doesn't comes from this and this is confirmed by the work of the Amazing Kreskin. He uses the classical Dunninger`s method to achieve his Q&A act. Is bold and is good because Kreskin isn't just divine the content of the billets, but much more. In that subtlety I think that relies the power of invisible billets, not in cover Magazine Test.
Besides that, I don't think that anyone in the world is comfortable to share with an audience when it was his/her last sexual relation.


If you want solid information about Mindreading acts or REAL Q&A`s ( for me one of the best demonstrations in Mentalism) check the work of John Riggs, Dunninger, Richard Osterlind, Banachek and Iain Dunford.


Rate: 5/10

I don't like this effect, but a few ideas can be expanded for your own creations.
Message: Posted by: Olympic Adam (Jun 23, 2011 12:54PM)
Thanks for your response, I tried to find your review on your site but I couldn't

is there a link to the PDF in the book? would like to be able to print my own billets
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Jun 23, 2011 01:51PM)
I bought this at Blackpool this year.
Read it, never used it (apart from the book itself, the rest of it is unpacked)

I'm busy making a list of stuff to put up for sale next week and this will be among them.

Anyone interested can PM me.

Steve
Message: Posted by: timski523 (Jun 27, 2011 07:30AM)
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On 2011-06-23 09:42, stevefaulkner wrote:
Its a great routine and really nicely produced, but does anybody else find it difficult to tell the two types of b***** apart? Maybe it's just my batch.
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I thought this too! I guess I may make my own.
BTW, I am not advanced in anyway, I am only a year and a bit into this art, but re some post's above, I feel this is a great Q+A for someone of my standered to lern. Its also given me so many more ideas to put my own stamp on it.
I would give it 8/10
Message: Posted by: Ross Tayler (Mar 18, 2014 04:09PM)
I realise this is an exceptionally old thread - so sorry to re-open it.

I've been reading this routine over repeatedly of late, and (whilst trying not to expose) wondered if anyone had considered doing away with the dummy + the BS - and just picking up the first profile and treating it like the dummy?

It's kind of hard to put across without exposing the method - but I'm sure those of you familiar with the routine will understand.

Naturally this would prevent one from returning the profiles - but I don't see it as presenting an issue if simply throwing them to the stage.

Any comments?

Kind regards,

Ross.