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Topic: New figure & what to name.
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 7, 2011 10:17AM)
Well, it looks like I took that group photo in the other thread just a little too soon.
I've pretty much decided I'm going to sell one of the figures that are in the group picture because I just got another figure.

This new figure is from our own Matt_24, and I immediately loved the look of this figure. I had no plans to buy any more figures, did not want to buy any more figures, (especially after just having bought a couple recently), but this figure just really captured my eye and wouldn't let go, so I caved in and got him.

This figure started out as a Foy Brown figure which Matt resculpted. Now some folks don't like the idea of someone resculpting an older carved figure, but in this case, it wasn't any loss. I probably shouldn't say this because there might be some people here who like them, but personally, I think Foy Brown figures are some of the butt ugliest figures I've ever seen. They all look like they have pig snouts, and the male figures all look like a variation of the Pee Wee Herman Billy Baloney.
I think Matt's work on him is a major improvement.

Now before I post the pictures - there is one thing I just realized. I may have fallen in love with this figure, especially once he was in my hands, had him talking right away with a voice I like for him, but I haven't even begun to think of name for him, and nothing is coming to me easily.
But if anyone would like to post suggestions, please do (of course his last name will be "Dickens" same as the rest of my little vent family).

Okay, here are the pictures - the larger ones are mine, and the smaller ones are Matt's. I posted Matt's pictures too because to me, for some reason in my pictures, he looks kind of grumpy, in Matt's pictures he doesn't, and Matt's pictures are more representative of the way he looks "in person".

[img]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q264/blueshawk1/ventriloquism/post2657.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q264/blueshawk1/ventriloquism/post2632.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q264/blueshawk1/ventriloquism/post2661.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q264/blueshawk1/ventriloquism/foy1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q264/blueshawk1/ventriloquism/foy5.jpg[/img]
Message: Posted by: Eric Rose (Feb 7, 2011 10:38AM)
Go varsity - name him "Please Pass the Bread and Butter Dickens."

or else maybe Dr. Donald Dickens because he looks like a professor. I'd add some elbow patches on the coat, though.




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Message: Posted by: Bob Baker (Feb 7, 2011 11:06AM)
I agree that he looks professorial. Trevor? Quintus? Charles? (Oops, that's taken).
Message: Posted by: Dash & Me (Feb 7, 2011 11:35AM)
Great looking figure Blueshawk1. I think your photos were taken from a slightly higher angle giving him more of a furrowed brow look. Matt's photos appear to be more at eye level reducing this effect. I could see that being useful when manipulating him to slightly change his look. As for the name, that face just screams MAXWELL to me.

My two cents
Troy
Message: Posted by: Matt_24 (Feb 7, 2011 11:58AM)
Ichabod Dickens III (the third, LOL) is my suggestion. I'm very glad that you like him so much!
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 7, 2011 12:42PM)
How about "Dexter Dickens"? Keeps the phonetics flowing.

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
Message: Posted by: Mr. Pitts (Feb 7, 2011 02:07PM)
I was thinking of an alliterative name too.. Deiter Dickens, but I do like the other ideas. I also think he looks professor-like and he should be Dr. Deiter or Dr. Dexter.. That's good.. I think my favorite.. Dr. Dexter Dickens. OR.. like from the play "Cats".. Deuteronomy. Dr. Deuteronomy Dickens.
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 7, 2011 05:06PM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-07 12:35, Dash & Me wrote:
Great looking figure Blueshawk1. I think your photos were taken from a slightly higher angle giving him more of a furrowed brow look. Matt's photos appear to be more at eye level reducing this effect.[/quote]
I tried taking pics from every angle, kneeling in front him, sitting in front of him, etc. I think it's more due to the fact that as a picture taker, I suck.
(Plus my camera's getting older, to give an idea, it's 5 megapixel, now they're up to 12 & 14 megapixel models - but even with a newer one, my pictures would probably still suck.)
[quote]
On 2011-02-07 13:42, Steve at The Dummy Shoppe wrote:
How about "Dexter Dickens"? Keeps the phonetics flowing.[/quote]
Keeping the phonetics flowing does appeal to me, probably why I already have a "Dondi Dickens", "Darren Dickens" & "Dagwood Dickens"., so I like "Dexter".
I also like Mr. Pitts' "Deiter" and "Deuteronomy" - if I went with "Deuteronomy" or something else long and "different" like that, I could refer to him as "Prof. D.", and a few jokes could probably be built on asking what the "D" is for.

But mostly, I'm glad I posted asking for suggestions because you've all helped more than I was planning. I just knew I loved this figure, and I had a voice, but I hadn't decided yet on what his character would be (which probably contributed to my not being able to come up with a name). I like the professor idea. Maybe a bit of an absent-minded professor, I could have a lot of fun with that.

Thanks everyone! (and feel free to keep the name ideas coming - I haven't decided definitely yet).
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 7, 2011 05:13PM)
How about an Argyle sweater with the letter "D" in the middle. Then whichever of the flowing phonetics you go with, he could be kind of a nerdy, superhero type of professor? However, to keep yourself out of trouble, even if he is a "Dr." stay away from two "DD"'s - lol

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
Message: Posted by: Chuck Lyons (Feb 7, 2011 05:38PM)
Humprey Higgens, or maybe Lawrence Lloyd (Larry for Short) Sidney Snodgrass. This is a wonderful figure Good luck in finding this fellow a moniker.
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 7, 2011 06:25PM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-07 18:13, Steve at The Dummy Shoppe wrote:
How about an Argyle sweater with the letter "D" in the middle. Then whichever of the flowing phonetics you go with, he could be kind of a nerdy, superhero type of professor? However, to keep yourself out of trouble, even if he is a "Dr." stay away from two "DD"'s - lol[/quote]

Hahaaa, I didn't think about that when I had the female Poyner figure, I called her "Dani Dickens", and she was, how can I say it, generously "proportioned"...
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Feb 8, 2011 01:10AM)
[/quote]
I tried taking pics from every angle, kneeling in front him, sitting in front of him, etc. I think it's more due to the fact that as a picture taker, I suck.
(Plus my camera's getting older, to give an idea, it's 5 megapixel, now they're up to 12 & 14 megapixel models - but even with a newer one, my pictures would probably still suck.)
[quote]

A shorter lens close to the face elongates the features and makes the nose and chin look longer; If you attempted to take the photograph using a normal lens (50mm) you may have to stand back for a longer shot; as you can see, Matt’s photos are taken from a further distance. If all you have is the lens that came with the camera, shoot further away and then crop closer in an editing program.
A longer lens nearer to a 100 to 140 mm lens is concreted a portrait lens. If you own a longer lens, try to photograph the figure with about an inch from the top of the head to the top of the frame and have the chest visible in the bottom of the viewfinder.
Concerning the 5 megapixel camera you own, it’s fine for the type of photos that you are enlarging to 8X10 and for photos you are posting here on the café,
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 8, 2011 04:55AM)
Well I think I've decided on "Deiter Dickens". It was a really tough decision between "Dexter" and "Deiter", but since my other "D" names were a little more uncommon, like "Dondi" - how often do you hear that one (and who here besides me remembers that comic strip that I got the name from?). I don't think "Dagwood" is all that common either, and I'm guessing "Deiter" is more uncommon than "Dexter", I've never even heard the name "Deiter" before.
Haven't decided if I'll refer to him as "Prof." or "Dr." yet, but there's time for that, and the decision might be made for me as I'm talking to him and developing material.
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 8, 2011 06:42AM)
I think "Deiter" is very common in Germany. Kind of like "Jim"

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 8, 2011 07:37AM)
Oh sure....knock the heck out of my weak logic...... ;)
Actually, I was thinking about it more anyway, and starting to lean back towards "Dexter".
Message: Posted by: marshalldoll (Feb 8, 2011 08:59AM)
I believe Robert McRay named one of his early big head figures Deiter.
Dan
http://www.ventriloquistcentral.com
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 8, 2011 10:03AM)
The reason I first leaned toward Dexter is the conotation of Poindexter, or a little pinheaded genius.

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 8, 2011 01:12PM)
I like Poindexter too, but will stick with just "Dexter".
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 8, 2011 01:20PM)
I agree. With just Dexter, you get to maintain the phonetic flow, but the subconscious image of a Poindexter still seems to be there in the back of your mind. (But then not everybody thinks the same, thank the Good Lord)

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
Message: Posted by: Matt Thompson (Feb 8, 2011 03:44PM)
Wow! So you were the lucky bidder on ebay, eh? I was sorely tempted to bid on him myself; It's good to know he found a good home!

I just couldn't stop thinking of Stephen Colbert everytime I saw the picture...
Message: Posted by: tacrowl (Feb 8, 2011 08:40PM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-08 09:59, marshalldoll wrote:
I believe Robert McRay named one of his early big head figures Deiter.
Dan
[/quote]

That would be "Deeder" - and he currently resides in my storage...
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 8, 2011 09:15PM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-08 16:44, Matt Thompson wrote:
Wow! So you were the lucky bidder on ebay, eh? I was sorely tempted to bid on him myself; It's good to know he found a good home![/quote]
Yes, that was me, in fact I was the only bidder which surprised me. At the start of the auction, I was kind of hoping it would get bid up there because I SO should not have been spending the money on another figure now, kept trying to talk myself out of it, but it got down to the second to the last day, no bids, and oh well.....but in the end, I'm glad I did it.
Message: Posted by: CaptKirk (Feb 9, 2011 06:43AM)
Great looking figure you have there!! I liked almost all of the names submitted by the other folks as well! He just looks like a "Clarence" to me but, as I said, I like your choice of "Dexter" too! Congrats on the new addition to your ever growing vent family:o)
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 9, 2011 09:17AM)
Thank you.

And No, - no more "growing vent family" - this time I mean it! Really, I do!
No new members except the ones I make myself.
Message: Posted by: Servante (Feb 9, 2011 09:25AM)
Uh huh.

How many times have I heard myself say that?

-Philip
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 9, 2011 10:27AM)
Okay, let me try this - I'm going to make an honest effort to not add any more......(that sort of gives me an "escape clause").
Message: Posted by: Servante (Feb 9, 2011 04:12PM)
There ya go. :)
Message: Posted by: jlevey (Feb 9, 2011 05:34PM)
Is it too late to try out "Melvin"? He just looks like a Melvin , to me ;)
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 9, 2011 07:21PM)
I love your idea of an escape clause Dave. I think I will start a pool to see who can guess when the next one will be!!!

Steve
www.thedummyshoppe
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 9, 2011 09:56PM)
Hahaa, now there's faith that I'll be able to follow through with that honest effort. :D

Truth be told, if I had the money, and just as importantly, the space to display them safely and protectively (instead of all tucked away in cases somewhere), I would probably have as many of them as I could gather.
But for now, I only have plans to sell one (though that could take months as I am slow to part with any), and to get a case for this one.
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 10, 2011 04:30AM)
There is always the method of adding a wing to the house, selling the wife and the car (thereby reducing expenses) and then being able to add many new characters - lol Of course there are also practical reasons to not do that as well.

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
Message: Posted by: tacrowl (Feb 10, 2011 07:44AM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-10 05:30, Steve at The Dummy Shoppe wrote:
Of course there are also practical reasons to not do that as well.
[/quote]

Name one for the wife side of that equation... ;)
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 10, 2011 09:47AM)
Umm

Ahh

Let me see. . .

Umm

Ahh

Ok. Cooking! I can NOT cook.

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 10, 2011 03:25PM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-10 05:30, Steve at The Dummy Shoppe wrote:
There is always the method of adding a wing to the house, selling the wife and the car (thereby reducing expenses) and then being able to add many new characters[/quote]
I like the way you think!
[quote]
On 2011-02-10 10:47, Steve at The Dummy Shoppe wrote:
Ok. Cooking! I can NOT cook.[/quote]
Well I can cook, so now where should I add that extra wing for all the new figures......
Message: Posted by: Vegasvent (Feb 10, 2011 04:07PM)
Hahaha....!
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 10, 2011 08:06PM)
Well, you might have a problem with your local zoning folks, but I would put it right off the front of the house, with its own exterior door, so that you can charge admission to passers by for coming in off the street to look at the new expanded "museum".

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
Message: Posted by: marshalldoll (Feb 10, 2011 08:23PM)
My solution was simple ....she gets what ever SHE wants.
Dan
http://www.ventriloquistcentral.com
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 10, 2011 09:23PM)
"SHE?" Hopefully you're talking about a female figure and not the wife. I mean really, priorities man, priorities......

[quote]
On 2011-02-10 21:06, Steve at The Dummy Shoppe wrote:
Well, you might have a problem with your local zoning folks, but I would put it right off the front of the house, with its own exterior door, so that you can charge admission to passers by for coming in off the street to look at the new expanded "museum".[/quote]
I think a better idea would be to set up chairs in front of the window facing the neighbors house, and have my figures sitting in them staring at the neighbors day and night until they run screaming from their house. Then we could take over their house. There, no problem with zoning laws.
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 10, 2011 10:37PM)
You are the neighborhood terrorist. What a great idea. I may need to steal that idea for a couple of the old biddies in our neck of the woods. (Oh well = its fun to dream)

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
Message: Posted by: manal (Feb 11, 2011 08:57AM)
He looks like Rowan Atkinson. Mr. Bean.
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Feb 11, 2011 09:14AM)
Hi Manal, I have not seen a post from you before; It’s very nice to meet you; are you a Ventriloquist?
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 11, 2011 06:12PM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-11 09:57, manal wrote:
He looks like Rowan Atkinson. Mr. Bean.[/quote]
I had to look that up, and you're right. Give that Mr. Bean a pair of glasses and the same hair color and you'd have this figure's human counterpart.
Message: Posted by: manal (Feb 13, 2011 07:49AM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-11 10:14, Buzz Lawrence wrote:
Hi Manal, I have not seen a post from you before; It’s very nice to meet you; are you a Ventriloquist?
[/quote]
Thank you for the welcome. I am not a ventriloquist , just a fan. At the age of 9 or so I received a Charlie McCarthy figure for Christmas which came with an instructional record by the fellow that had the Farfel dog .
I used to see Dany ODay and Farfel on TV as well as Paul Winchell and his crew.I loved watching WC Fields movies especialy the one with Edgar Bergin. My dad had the old radio shows on cassette tape and I listened to them alot.
I am 50 now but used to see vents on TV all the time growing up.
Nice dummy ( or is the proper term figure?)by the way.
Message: Posted by: manal (Feb 13, 2011 08:05AM)
Forgot to mention I am a wood carver and would like someday to attempt carving a figure.
Anyone know of a written source or tutorial for wooden figures. I have seen the online directions for the other non wood type.
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 13, 2011 08:11AM)
Manal,

Go to http://www.ventriloquistcentral.com and look around there. Or go directly to webmaster@ventriloquistcentral.com and talk to Steve Hurst about that question. He has written a very comprehensive book/DVD on that very topic. Don't remember the price off the top of my head, but it seems that it was very reasonable. Plus he will work with you (live) if you hit any snags in the process.

disclaimer: Steve Hurst is also our webmaster

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
Message: Posted by: manal (Feb 13, 2011 09:03AM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-13 09:11, Steve at The Dummy Shoppe wrote:
Manal,

Go to http://www.ventriloquistcentral.com and look around there. Or go directly to webmaster@ventriloquistcentral.com and talk to Steve Hurst about that question. He has written a very comprehensive book/DVD on that very topic. Don't remember the price off the top of my head, but it seems that it was very reasonable. Plus he will work with you (live) if you hit any snags in the process.

disclaimer: Steve Hurst is also our webmaster

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
[/quote]

Thank You.
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 13, 2011 09:11AM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-13 08:49, manal wrote:
Nice dummy ( or is the proper term figure?)by the way.[/quote]
Thank you (and you can call them whichever you choose - around other vents, I usually say "figure", around non-vents, I say "dummies" or they don't know what I'm talking about).

[quote]
On 2011-02-13 09:05, manal wrote:
Forgot to mention I am a wood carver and would like someday to attempt carving a figure.
Anyone know of a written source or tutorial for wooden figures. I have seen the online directions for the other non wood type.[/quote]
Once upon a time I was gathering everything I could find written about making a vent figure, carved and non-carved. For carved figures, the very best I ever saw was nothing more than a small, I think 12 pages, little "booklet" or pamphlet by someone who is well known for carving very nice figures.
Now the devil of this is, I can get the name to come to me. I went and looked at my copy of the pamphlet, and he doesn't have his name on there.
I will work on it and try to come up with the name, maybe if Matt-24 pops in, he can help, I think he either did, or was going to order a figure from this maker before.
Message: Posted by: marshalldoll (Feb 13, 2011 01:34PM)
Dave are you talking about Brandt Gilmer? His pamphlet was rather small about carving figures.
Dan
http://www.ventrriloquistcentral.com
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 13, 2011 01:51PM)
Yes Dan! - That's it! Thank you!!
Message: Posted by: marshalldoll (Feb 13, 2011 08:52PM)
No problem!! Always want to help even if it is to jog the mind!! LOL
Dan
http://www.ventriloquistcentral.com
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 13, 2011 09:31PM)
I think jogging my mind is the problem - it's gone off jogging and left me sitting here all alone.....
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 14, 2011 01:37AM)
This could get to be a running joke!

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
Message: Posted by: manal (Feb 14, 2011 09:07AM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-13 14:34, marshalldoll wrote:
Dave are you talking about Brandt Gilmer? His pamphlet was rather small about carving figures.
Dan
http://www.ventrriloquistcentral.com
[/quote]
If I can find a source I'll have to run out and get it.
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Feb 14, 2011 09:28AM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-13 22:31, blueshawk1 wrote:
I think jogging my mind is the problem - it's gone off jogging and left me sitting here all alone.....
[/quote]

[quote]
On 2011-02-14 02:37, Steve at The Dummy Shoppe wrote:
This could get to be a running joke!

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
[/quote]

I am “running” out of comments to add, need something to” jog” my mind
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 14, 2011 10:25AM)
Put on your sneakers and step up the pace!


Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 14, 2011 01:00PM)
I would, but I've got to run along now.....
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 14, 2011 01:09PM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-14 10:07, manal wrote:
[quote]
On 2011-02-13 14:34, marshalldoll wrote:
Dave are you talking about Brant Gilmer? His pamphlet was rather small about carving figures.
Dan[/quote]
If I can find a source I'll have to run out and get it.
[/quote]

Brant doesn't have a website, and the only way to get it is directly from him, but in another thread here in this section of the Café, I found Matt_24 had posted his email address, but that post was in 2004, so I don't know if it's any good, but you could give it a try: brangilm@adelphia.net
Message: Posted by: Matt Thompson (Feb 14, 2011 03:42PM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-11 09:57, manal wrote:
He looks like Rowan Atkinson. Mr. Bean.
[/quote]

That's it. I knew he resembled someone famous! I mentioned Stephen Colbert but Rowan Atkinson is right on. That's exactly who he is.

Ah, makes me think of Black Adder...