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Topic: Premises/themes for the presentation of the CnB
Message: Posted by: yin_howe (Feb 24, 2011 11:49PM)
I'm trying to move away from the descriptive patter for the presentation of the CnB (I take this ball, put it in my hand and it vanishes.. blah blah...)

I highly doubt I'm the only one that have thought about this and guess this may have been covered before, I have tried searching the Café but there doesn't seem to be much on the topic..

What I'm trying to go for is something like Suzanne's presentation CnB at the Magic Castle, Kent Gunn's "Fun Shop", and Ricky Jay's History lesson, which a story/theme to package the presentation. I've also read somewhere on the Café (Although I can't seem to find the thread now) that the CnB was used to illustrate inventory management.

What other stories/premises can be used for the presentation of the cups and balls? 3 little Pigs? 3 wise men?

Thanks in advance.
Message: Posted by: RevJohn (Feb 25, 2011 12:06AM)
Bill Malone's Routine is good for inspiration (or at least the routine he does. I believe someone else created it, but I could be wrong).

Spiritual Applications for Tarbell 1 has an attempt at a Gospel presentation.

David Regal's routine on the Cups and Balls and Cups and Balls tells a story.

I have used in the past something based on the 3 little pigs.

I am sure there are many more.

RevJohn
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Feb 25, 2011 01:59AM)
There is Rafael Benatar's routine that he calls the e-mail cups and balls routine.

The Rub-A-Dub routine is not Bill Malone's. It's Jim Bateman's.

I published one in MUM, called The Cups and Balls Done by Death -- just the premise.

Punx published a routine that was about how Bartolomeo Bosco survived the Crimean War by playing dead and picking the pockets of the Russian soldier that searched his body.

Johnny Thompson does a wonderful routine where he impersonates several classic cups and balls performers.
Message: Posted by: yin_howe (Feb 25, 2011 03:01AM)
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On 2011-02-25 02:59, Bill Palmer wrote:

I published one in MUM, called The Cups and Balls Done by Death -- just the premise.

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Mr Palmer,

This sounds like an interesting premise. As I am in Malaysia and veyr unlikely that I'll find a copy of MUM here.
Is it possible for you to share this with me?
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Feb 25, 2011 03:46AM)
It wasn't a complete routine, by any means, just a presentational idea.

I'll see if I can find the original digital copy.

I don't even remember when it appeared in MUM
Message: Posted by: yin_howe (Feb 25, 2011 05:02AM)
Found this old thread too
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=26213&forum=106&21&start=0#20
Message: Posted by: panlives (Feb 25, 2011 07:13AM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-25 02:59, Bill Palmer wrote:
There is Rafael Benatar's routine that he calls the e-mail cups and balls routine.

The Rub-A-Dub routine is not Bill Malone's. It's Jim Bateman's.

I published one in MUM, called The Cups and Balls Done by Death -- just the premise.

Punx published a routine that was about how Bartolomeo Bosco survived the Crimean War by playing dead and picking the pockets of the Russian soldier that searched his body.

Johnny Thompson does a wonderful routine where he impersonates several classic cups and balls performers.
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Hi Bill,

Is the Punx routine in English?

with thanks,
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Feb 25, 2011 09:01AM)
I did a summary of it somewhere a while back. I'll see if I can find it. It was very non-specific.
Message: Posted by: yin_howe (Feb 26, 2011 09:30AM)
Judging from the replies, I guess most are still performing to the patter of "now what I am gonna do is take this ball and put it in my left hand...."
Message: Posted by: conjurormatt (Feb 26, 2011 09:56AM)
R. Shane has a cups routine with an interesting story about the assassination of a pharaoh. It's called "The Sting", and it has a clever story with a surprise final load. You can find it on Lybrary.com
Message: Posted by: Andrew Zuber (Feb 26, 2011 01:21PM)
Mine starts off with the moves and then goes into a story where I was performing once and was heckled by a spectator - my inebriated grandmother. That's where it starts to get weird.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Feb 26, 2011 01:55PM)
Dai Vernon and Fred Kaps used descriptive talk (I hate the word "patter") and it was just fine. It depends on your style and how you say it.

For an example of descriptive talk, with asides, go to http://www.petebiro.com and click on pete on tv, and scroll down to Vernon Cups and Balls. The "asides" comments are what make the routine.
Message: Posted by: HerbLarry (Feb 26, 2011 03:47PM)
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On 2011-02-26 10:56, conjurormatt wrote:
R. Shane has a cups routine with an interesting story about the assassination of a pharaoh. It's called "The Sting", and it has a clever story with a surprise final load. You can find it on Lybrary.com
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One can use the basic idea behind "Sting" and come up with some cool things too.
Message: Posted by: conjurormatt (Feb 27, 2011 03:09PM)
Agreed!