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Topic: Vanishing wand
Message: Posted by: Nick W (Mar 28, 2011 09:32PM)
Do they make vanishing wands the size of a tambale stick...pardon my spelling on that...it's radius is smaller than a drumstick...vanishing wands that size???
Message: Posted by: volto (Mar 29, 2011 09:38AM)
Fantasio do one although it's a little thick. There are more 'premium' options available if you search around.

Here's a fun video of the Fantasio one in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqoP8yexIH8

Alternatively, if you want to cause a provably solid wand to vanish, check out Flip Hallema's famous 'Flip Stick' routine in Tarbell vol. 7.

Here's some footage of Jimmy Talksalot doing some amazing work around the general area of vanishing wands and magic hats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93S8QhJD-qo

Dunno if that's any use to you. Apologies if it isn't... :)
Message: Posted by: Nick W (Mar 29, 2011 12:20PM)
Thanks volto! I'm very familiar with Jimmys work. its inspired me in many ways.....I had other ideas in mind.....working backwards from the effect to the method.....harder, but Im confident the end result is worth it...
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Mar 29, 2011 01:16PM)
Timbale sticks are a good diameter to perform Flipstick, but they are a little long from what I've seen. For most magicians, an ideal length is 12" (31cm). Hardwood dowel rods are cheaper and can work well, too.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Mar 29, 2011 01:43PM)
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On 2011-03-29 13:20, Nick W wrote:
Thanks volto! I'm very familiar with Jimmys work. its inspired me in many ways.....I had other ideas in mind.....working backwards from the effect to the method.....harder, but Im confident the end result is worth it...
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I would be best to get the proper instuction from the originator of moves and effects. Flip himself. Here it all explained, it takes hours of practice and you need to know where you are going.

http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=27&products_id=2130

Additionally, Shoot Ogawa has a wonderful wand routine using flip techinuque that is outstanding and will give you insight on a routine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ4mkP1dfzY

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjI1Nzg5OTQ0.html
Message: Posted by: Nick W (Mar 31, 2011 06:31PM)
My orignal intent to post was unclear, my fault...I'm not looking to do flipsick moves...rather a wand version of a vanishing cane...
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Mar 31, 2011 08:32PM)
Why don't you just buy the Vanishing Wand by Fantasio. It works well.

If you want a metal bronse color Vanishing Wand from Japan, PM me, and I will give you more information. Not cheap though!

You can see how we would suggest the flip move as you posted in the Manipulation section of the Café. Pardon our mis-understanding.
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Mar 31, 2011 09:12PM)
Fantasio wand is the way to do then. Get one while you can.

If you want to go to steel materials, Harakan from Japan are very good. You might also find an older Walsh vanishing wand.

Richard
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Mar 31, 2011 10:55PM)
Yes, the one I can provide is a Bronze or copper color Harakan Vanishing Wand, could not think of the name when I posted.
Message: Posted by: Nick W (Apr 2, 2011 08:47AM)
Do they make them in pink? or can you change the colour of these wands?
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Apr 3, 2011 11:42AM)
No they do not make them in pink, as a matter of fact, they do not make them at all any longer.

This is not a color changing wand but a vanishing wand. LOL
No you cannot change the color of the wand.
Message: Posted by: Nick W (Apr 4, 2011 06:12AM)
Im thinking I need the wand to vanish to accomplish the effect I'm creating...I need pink but I cant really go into detail as to why...

working backwards

search for a new method

but don't scrap the thought...
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Apr 4, 2011 09:13AM)
Fantasio products can be painted with the Krylon paint to change the color. You might have to touch it up occasionally though.

Richard
Message: Posted by: Alexander Wells (Apr 5, 2011 02:23AM)
I know you've said you don't want to do flipstick moves but why? It can be just as deceptive (if not more so) than a fantasio. It might be worth a second look...
Message: Posted by: Nick W (Apr 5, 2011 01:05PM)
I'm quite fluent with flipstick moves. They work great on their own or to flow to other routines. Im working on a new idea and exploring possible methods. basically changing a stick into an object. can be done with a flipstick move but I would have to end clean....its hard to ditch a foot long drumstick. but to topit a collapsed wand is much easier...