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Message: Posted by: Doug Follett (Apr 1, 2011 09:53PM)
I have a question regarding the case the goes with the Silver Sceptre. I realize this is an inexpensive trick, and would normally go to the source with this question. However, the source is David Ginn, and he had surgery on his back today, according to his latest newsletter. The last thing I want to do is bring up such a trivial thing as this to him at this time. Is anyone familiar with this trick?

The case that it goes in and pops out of is a sort of simulated leather, OK, much more like flexible plastic. I had ordered it from him some time ago, and just now got it out to toy around with it, and the seems on each side just fell apart. There is no thread, so sewing wasn't the original method. I see no signs of any glue, so my guess is it may have been heat sealed?

I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions, other than to simply buy another one, on how I might repair the seems. It is still together at the very top, and partially at the bottom, but the sides have literally fallen apart from each other.

I think I've just spent more time typing this than it would have been to simply buy another one perhaps.

Message: Posted by: Ryan Price (Apr 1, 2011 09:55PM)
You should check out theambitiouscard.com. They have an awesome suede case for the silver sceptre. You wont have this problem ever again. It's located in the "bags" area.
Message: Posted by: Doug Follett (Apr 1, 2011 10:07PM)
Thanks Ryan, I just checked it out. Even in their ad they recognize that the original case is, well, less than stellar... So the question is, to spend $19 on a case for a $10 trick? Or, are there different qualities of Silver Sceptre's out there, and I just happen to have a very inexpensive version?

Again, thanks for your reply and steering me to theambitiouscard website.

Message: Posted by: Doug Follett (Apr 1, 2011 10:25PM)
Maybe I'm partially answering my own question regarding different versions of this trick. I found an older thread that recommended one from Practical Magic. As with many of their items, it is a higher quality version than the one that I have.

Regardless, any ideas as to how to repair the case that comes with the inexpensive version?


Message: Posted by: themagiciansapprentice (Apr 2, 2011 01:32AM)
In books and one dvds David Ginn recommends using two staple near the slit, just below the popper. This prevents it tearing.

I've got a few different silver sceptres. I've found the one I got from David is better than the one I got from Albion Magic (and stocked by Practical Magic). The latter's elastic broke and was quite difficult to replace. I couldn't return it as I was back in Kuwait by then. In the end I perfected a way of repalcing the elastic but really could have done without the hastle after only a couple of shows.
Message: Posted by: John Breeds (Apr 2, 2011 08:00AM)
Hi Doug

Try this link:


It will give all the information you need plus a couple of extras.

It's an extract from my book.

Hope this helps.

Message: Posted by: TommyJ (Apr 2, 2011 08:47AM)
I also use a staple. Just one, right below the opening where it can tear. Mine have never torn again and I use mine ALL the time.
Message: Posted by: Doug Follett (Apr 2, 2011 11:15AM)
Thanks everyone for your replies. I appreciate it. I think mine is simply too late for the staple. John, thanks for sharing that article, very inciteful, and thorough.

My sceptre does not have the round ball on the end, which I agree would make it easier to use. I had purchased a wand from Duane Laflin which does have the round ends, and he has also addressed this in a lecture that I was priveledged to be able to attend.

Again, thanks for the replies.

Message: Posted by: Potty the Pirate (Apr 2, 2011 12:42PM)
I bought an excellent leather case from one of the Magic Café members ...now who was it? I'm sure someone else will know and post the info....
It's well worth the investment, as this case seems to last pretty much forever.
Message: Posted by: MagicB1S (Apr 2, 2011 12:56PM)
Doug Said: So the question is, to spend $19 on a case for a $10 trick?

Yes, The prop itself might cost $10.00 but the reactions it gets is priceless, so go for it. Spend the $19.00 and you will have a case that will last you the life of the wand.
Message: Posted by: Mind_Magic (Apr 2, 2011 01:53PM)
If your are serious on your props, the way to go is to spend 25 pounds for a Silver Sceptre de luxe wand from Practical-magic and a case from theambitiouscard.

Also, very informative document from John Breeds.
Message: Posted by: derrick (Apr 3, 2011 04:06AM)
I have one from theambitious card. Awsome quality no GREAT qualiy and you'll be giving the wand and the case to your grandkidsr
Message: Posted by: Regan (Apr 3, 2011 06:38AM)
I made my own Silver Scepter case from velvet. It works great and looks great. You might as well toss the case that comes with them. They are junk IMO.
Message: Posted by: Harv (Apr 3, 2011 08:12AM)
On 2011-04-03 05:06, derrick wrote:
I have one from theambitious card. Awsome quality no GREAT qualiy and you'll be giving the wand and the case to your grandkidsr

Agreed...well worth buying.
Message: Posted by: flimnar (Apr 3, 2011 08:32AM)
On 2011-04-02 13:56, MagicB1S wrote:
Doug Said: So the question is, to spend $19 on a case for a $10 trick?

Yes, The prop itself might cost $10.00 but the reactions it gets is priceless, so go for it. Spend the $19.00 and you will have a case that will last you the life of the wand.

Agreed and agreed--the case from The Ambitious Card is well worth it as it is not only something to store the Scepter in, but is actually part of the prop/routine.
Message: Posted by: MoonRazor (Apr 3, 2011 08:40AM)
They have Duct Tape in all colors now for us lazy magi's
Message: Posted by: noland (Apr 3, 2011 10:52AM)
I went through several silver sceptre cases until I stumbled on the suede case available at The Amibitious Card. I tried strengthening and repairing the plastic cases in different ways--staples, duct tape--but the repairs did not last long. The cases looked really tacky too, with duct tape and staples in them. If you actually use the silver sceptre in your show, as I do, then $20 bucks for a handsome looking, indestructible case, is not too much to spend, even for a $10 prop, especially since the case plays a key role in the by-play with the prop, and some of the best gags witht the sceptre require use of the case.
Message: Posted by: Beowulf (Apr 3, 2011 10:58AM)
Moon--great minds and all that. I have used black duct tape on mine for years now, and it works great.

My routine is about a visit to the Anti-Q store where they sold me a wand once used by the great magician Harry Who-dun-it. I start with "Ever been to an Anti-Q store? It's where they buy junk and sell collectibles. This is what I got; ever seen one of these before? Oh, this is just the bag; it was free, just $29.95 shipping...

All the children care about it the wand inside. They've never commented on the 'bag'.
Message: Posted by: Doug Follett (Apr 3, 2011 12:42PM)
Thanks everyone for all the inputs. You've been very helpful.

Message: Posted by: LVMagicAL (Apr 3, 2011 12:55PM)
I bought the Silver Sceptre from Practical Magic after going through several of the cheaper models sold at dealers, magic shops and conventions throughout the US. The quality is far superior and does have a nice case, although I don't use the case in performance. My story line is much like Beowulf: bought from an antique store and the proprietor told me to keep it clean and polished, etc; and one day I would figure out what kind of magic was in the wand...yadi, yadi, yadi... I use a silk to "polish" it in front of the audience and go through the various gags, etc; I do keep and transport it in the original case, but don't even use the case in performance. I know....I'm likely missing out on some good bits with the case, but my routine works very well for me. Although I spent about 4 times more for a good one from Practical Magic, it has saved me in frustration and embarrassment from the problems that ultimately go along with the cheaper versions. Count my vote as being for the Practical Magic version....and I believe they make it available in both silver and black with silver tips (like a "traditional" wand), both with a nice case.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Apr 4, 2011 03:07PM)
Wow. Thanks for the kudos on our SS case.

Obviously kids can get their hands on a SS case, like they can everything else that gets into the audience. Often that results in a tug-o-war, yes?

The case is designed to stand up to bratty kids doing a tug-o-war but also has one more interesting addition to it. . .
The case is seriously re-inforced at just the right spot to help it last forever. This also allows a better sweet spot where the ball and the wand meet for the blast-off phase.

Because the bag is a touch stiff, it flies an impressive distance with the greatest of ease.

We have made them other colors on request and the bags are guaranteed for life. Return for repairs if anything happens to it. (We've never had one come back).

Thanks again,
Message: Posted by: Doug Follett (Apr 4, 2011 06:27PM)
I ordered mine from Frank this afternoon. Thanks everyone for chiming in on this thread. I appreciate it.

Message: Posted by: Beowulf (Apr 4, 2011 10:54PM)
LV--might you post a photo of your sceptre? Always been curious about the Practical product, but their photo not much help in distinguishing it from the $5 model I got at Magic Warehouse.
Message: Posted by: Al Kazam the Magic Man (Apr 4, 2011 11:32PM)
When Frank says his is tough and can stand the rigors of kids tugging on it and fighting over it, he's right. I use his ss cover and it has had everything done to it and is still very strong and looks like it will last a lifetime.

Message: Posted by: Doug Follett (Apr 18, 2011 07:05AM)
I received the Silver Sceptre bag from Frank at theambitiouscard.com. You guys are correct in that it is very well made. There's another thread asking about color choices, as they have now started offering blue and red. I like the contrast of the black bag and the silver sceptre. Thanks Frank.