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Topic: Nick Trost's Intuition
Message: Posted by: AeroSmythe (Apr 26, 2011 09:00PM)
Would someone please be kind enough to describe the effect for me? I've read a lot about how great the trick is but can't even find a description of the effect; even here when it was requested the answer was something like "please take the leap of faith and buy it, I don't want to spoil the surprise."

I'm not asking for the secret - I have no problem buying magic - I just want to know what it is that I'm buying. I'm sure I don't know as much about magic as the majority of you do, but I know enough to know that I can't sell an effect if I don't like it myself. As an example, I don't do spelling tricks because I absolutely despise them (I mean no offense to those who do like them, it's merely a matter of taste).

I'd be immensely appreciative if I could get - or be pointed to - a description of the effect. Again, I'm not asking for the secret - just the effect.

Thanks in advance for any answers.

RS
Message: Posted by: Dr. JK (Apr 28, 2011 09:18AM)
Here is the description straight from "The Card Magic of Nick Trost":

A spectator picks one of two decks and examines it. He has a free choice. As the performer's back is turned, the spectator reverses any card in his deck [i]at any point[/i]. His deck is returned to its case. The performer now uncases the other deck, shows it to be regular, then takes it behind his back and reverses one card. He brings the deck forward and states that if he and the spectator acted in accord, the two reversed cards will be in the same position in each deck. The cards are dealt in unison from both decks, and both reversed cards do fall at the [i]same position[/i]. "If we were in perfect accord," the performer says, "then we will have reversed [i]matching[/i] cards." The two face-down cards are turned up. A [i]perfect[/i] match!

That's the description, and it is just as described. If you're thinking about getting the Card Magic of Nick Trost, I highly recommend it! A ton of great stuff in there.
Message: Posted by: AeroSmythe (Apr 29, 2011 09:53PM)
Thank you, Jeff, I really appreciate it. I plan on getting a copy ASAP.

Cheers,

RS
Message: Posted by: Dr. JK (Apr 30, 2011 07:47AM)
You won't regret it. One of the things that is so great about his books is the creativity they stimulate. For example, I really liked his "A Premonition" effect, which I worked out to make impromptu! So I can entertain with that, and then follow up with the "Spectator's Card Trick" as a way of repeating (but not really). PM me when you get the book if you're interested in seeing my handling.
Message: Posted by: harvini2 (Jun 23, 2011 08:45AM)
Nick Books are Great

Posted: Jun 23, 2011 9:45am
I have them all
Message: Posted by: Louis Lu (Aug 11, 2011 05:10PM)
Does any material overlap from Card Magic of Nick Trost with any of the Subtle Card Creations books?
Message: Posted by: mdspark (Sep 26, 2011 12:21PM)
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On 2011-08-11 18:10, Louis Lu wrote:
Does any material overlap from Card Magic of Nick Trost with any of the Subtle Card Creations books?
[/quote]

The short answer to this is no, there is not overlap other than a diff method or slight improvment here and there of an effect in the former. Vast, vast amounts of new stuff. I first got Vol 3. liked it so well I immediately bought the previous 2 volumes. If you like Nick Trost's stuff, I don't think you will be dissapointed.
Message: Posted by: papawemba (Aug 19, 2013 09:03AM)
There is a video of this effect here http://www.magicbookreport.com/2011/05/the-card-magic-of-nick-trost/
It sure looks awesome !!! But I guess it is far from beeing impromptu lol
I wonder how many (good) tricks in Card Magic of Nick Trost is impromptu...

Nicolas
Message: Posted by: Atom3339 (Aug 19, 2013 03:59PM)
Nicolas, MANY of Trost's effects are impromtu. Also, Aldo Colombini's teaching, Aldo On Trost DVD series is excellent. You can find them at http://www.WildColombini.com.
Message: Posted by: captainsmiffy (Aug 21, 2013 02:22PM)
Great little effect....and so simple to do! All the hallmarks of a good Trost routine. Just a small point, however - and am not sure if this is down to me mis-reading the instruction or whether there. Is actually a typo (as you may be aware, am nearly always being subjected to jetlag to some extent and therefore this could easily be me that is wrong!). However, when I try to perform the reset as written, it never actually does the job. It is actually extremely straightforward to right the wrong and to reset using logic but, unless I am totally misreading dear old Nicks intent, the reset does not appear to work as written. Feel free to correct me, probably is me making the mistake...however I am clear in my mind how to reset but was just wondering if anybody else had the same problem? As I said, marvellous effect and well worth a short space of time playing with this one.
Message: Posted by: magicfish (Sep 2, 2013 07:46PM)
Its a very effective mystery with cards. I fooled myself the first time I tried it. I love that.
Message: Posted by: galerius (Sep 3, 2013 05:40AM)
[quote]
On 2013-08-21 15:22, captainsmiffy wrote:
Great little effect....and so simple to do! All the hallmarks of a good Trost routine. Just a small point, however - and am not sure if this is down to me mis-reading the instruction or whether there. Is actually a typo (as you may be aware, am nearly always being subjected to jetlag to some extent and therefore this could easily be me that is wrong!). However, when I try to perform the reset as written, it never actually does the job. It is actually extremely straightforward to right the wrong and to reset using logic but, unless I am totally misreading dear old Nicks intent, the reset does not appear to work as written. Feel free to correct me, probably is me making the mistake...however I am clear in my mind how to reset but was just wondering if anybody else had the same problem? As I said, marvellous effect and well worth a short space of time playing with this one.
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Yes, I had the same problem when I tried it ( not before an audience, however ). I thought it was me that not being an english speaker could get some detail wrong, but seems it wasn't due to this, then...
Message: Posted by: sohaib (Sep 9, 2013 04:04PM)
Best trick in the book

not a trick; Magic
Message: Posted by: sohaib (Sep 9, 2013 04:05PM)
Best trick in the book

not a trick; Magic :)
Message: Posted by: RobFromNZ (Sep 12, 2013 07:12PM)
Interestingly, I was reading Karl Fulves Self Working Mental Magic yesterday, and came across a trick very similar to Trost's Intuition. It's number 58 "Ultimate Match" based on an idea by Eddie Joseph.
Message: Posted by: darho (Apr 7, 2014 01:44PM)
It is my favourite Nick Trost effect. I only do two effects using two decks. This one and Michael Vincent's ACAAN.
Message: Posted by: hdejong (May 11, 2014 10:28AM)
This effect is so clever--I love nick trost's book!
Message: Posted by: KokoB (May 15, 2014 09:16AM)
Nick Trost had a great mind in magic, His stuff will never get old, His thinking was great most of his work is pretty easy but very effective. If you do not have his books buy them all, & his packet tricks are awesome!
Message: Posted by: KokoB (May 15, 2014 09:22AM)
Aldo Colombini has a series of DVD's on Nick Trost you should go check them out I have them all it is a great collection of his work..
Message: Posted by: DelMagic (Jun 13, 2014 12:11AM)
The video performance has some extras not in the Trost book. The faros and false cuts are not part of the description. Also, it appears that he is using marked decks - there was no gl_ _ _ _ e.

I was wondering if you think the gl_ _ _ _ e is really necessary. Since you are later going to have the spectator turn their deck face-up, why not just have them turn their deck face-up immediately after flipping their chosen (cut-to) card and assembling the deck? That eliminates the need for you to handle their deck at all and you can see what you need without any unmotivated moves.
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Jan 28, 2018 08:14PM)
Hi everybody,


I know this is an old thread, but I wondered if anyone knew of an efficient way to set up the two decks in Intuition? The trick is beautiful, but the set-up is pretty tedious.
Message: Posted by: rosstrainer08 (Aug 17, 2019 02:06PM)
[quote]On Aug 21, 2013, captainsmiffy wrote:
unless I am totally misreading dear old Nicks intent, the reset does not appear to work as written [/quote]

I have found this also to be an issue, going to work on figuring out the reset as I'm sure it isn't too hard to work out although if anyone has the structure feel free to post or PM.
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Aug 17, 2019 04:29PM)
Hi rosstrainer,


Please let me know if you find anything. I wasn't aware of a problem with the reset.


There's a lengthy discussion on a thread that I started about how to set up the cards in the first place. I think it has the phrase "computer scientists" or "computer scientists to the rescue" in it.
Message: Posted by: WayneBurrows (Aug 22, 2019 03:55AM)
Here is a performance in Portuguese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXllQnYXzvo
Message: Posted by: WayneBurrows (Aug 22, 2019 04:09AM)
I do not know Intuition but having watched the above video you can do this effect with any two decks that are in opposite orders. There are many similar effects with one deck in mirror stack order where you can get a matching pairs in each half.

Since I like memorised deck work I would just use two decks in a memorised deck order and reverse one deck.

To reset the magicians deck just needs one card turned back over and the order of the cards counted to the table in the reversed.

The spectators deck needs the cards counted to the table reversed and then put back on the top of the deck with the selected card returned to its place in the deck.
Message: Posted by: Andy Moss (Nov 7, 2019 10:57AM)
Scale down and use the twenty two major arcana cards of two tarot decks (ideally with m***** backs). Memorise a story to remember the cy***** S****

"A young man (fool) goes out (chariot) into the world (world) to seek his fortune (wheel). He travels by day (sun) and by night under the moon (moon) and the stars (stars).
First he visits the Emperor who advises him that true strength (strength) comes from having an army! However the empress begged to differ. Love (love) was the answer to everything! The young man thus went away confused and decided to seek wiser counsel from the High priest (hierophant) and the High priestess (High priestess). They were fortunately both of agreement that true power lay in being just (justice) in all circumstances. This need not mean escaping from tne world completely (The Hermit). Rather it more properly meant excercising restraint (Temperance) in all things. The young man, however, soon fell into bad company and was maliciously led asray by an evil sorcerer (Magician). The result was disasterous (The Tower) for he was thrown into prison to await his fate (Judgement). On an icy cold November morning he was hung (The hanged Man) until his death (Death). A hellishly (Devil) unfair ending to a promising life I think we will all agree."

:dance:
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Nov 7, 2019 03:06PM)
WayneBurrows, What a simple, elegant solution! So the cards need only be set up once, and then can easily be rest after each performance.


Andy, I love story tricks. I'm having trouble understanding how your story pertains to Trost's Intuition trick. (Also, I'm unable to decode cy******S*****.) Thanks for any clarification.


Bob
Message: Posted by: Andy Moss (Nov 8, 2019 07:10AM)
Bob, Will PM you. Too much reveal for my liking on this open thread.
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Nov 8, 2019 04:08PM)
Thanks, Andy.