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Topic: Best Cut and Restored???
Message: Posted by: dlcmagic (May 9, 2011 07:29PM)
What is the best published comedy cut and restored rope routine using a spectator?
Dave
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (May 10, 2011 01:24AM)
[b]It depends on your ability to be funny.[/b]

For my money, the one I purchased in the 1950s, "Harold Sterling's Short and Long Rope Trick."

What bugs me it is probably one of the most ripped off routines with rope ever.
Message: Posted by: TrickyRicky (May 10, 2011 05:26AM)
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On 2011-05-10 02:24, Pete Biro wrote:
[b]It depends on your ability to be funny.[/b]

For my money, the one I purchased in the 1950s, "Harold Sterling's Short and Long Rope Trick."

What bugs me it is probably one of the most ripped off routines with rope ever.
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Right on Pete.
Sterling's rope routine is probably the best for adults and children. It's been a feature in my shows for years.
I've adjusted the routine to get maximum laughs from both adukts and children. One piece of rope last for 4 to five
performances.
If I'm correct, you can find the routine in Tarbell.
Tricky Ricky
Message: Posted by: dlcmagic (May 10, 2011 06:46AM)
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On 2011-05-10 02:24, Pete Biro wrote:
[b]It depends on your ability to be funny.[/b]

For my money, the one I purchased in the 1950s, "Harold Sterling's Short and Long Rope Trick."

What bugs me it is probably one of the most ripped off routines with rope ever.
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On 2011-05-10 06:26, TrickyRicky wrote:
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On 2011-05-10 02:24, Pete Biro wrote:
[b]It depends on your ability to be funny.[/b]

For my money, the one I purchased in the 1950s, "Harold Sterling's Short and Long Rope Trick."

What bugs me it is probably one of the most ripped off routines with rope ever.
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Right on Pete.
Sterling's rope routine is probably the best for adults and children. It's been a feature in my shows for years.
I've adjusted the routine to get maximum laughs from both adukts and children. One piece of rope last for 4 to five
performances.
If I'm correct, you can find the routine in Tarbell.
Tricky Ricky
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Thank you gentlemen! I found the routine in Abbott's Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks.
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On 2011-05-10 02:24, Pete Biro wrote:
[b]It depends on your ability to be funny.[/b]

For my money, the one I purchased in the 1950s, "Harold Sterling's Short and Long Rope Trick."

What bugs me it is probably one of the most ripped off routines with rope ever.
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Pete and TrickyRicky. Do you do all the on stage cueing (whispering) to the spectator that is described in the routine in the Abbotts book? Do you use two people?
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (May 10, 2011 11:12AM)
I don't do any cue-ing. I have, based on my personality, developed one liners and little bits over the years. At a recent roast of a Jewish friend (his 70th Birthday) I just did the rope trick and it killed.
Message: Posted by: magicians (May 10, 2011 01:59PM)
Your a regular cut up, you should have been a rabbi.
Message: Posted by: Stellan (May 10, 2011 02:46PM)
The absolutely best comedy cut and restored rope routine with a spectator is without a doubt Jan Gallo's cut and restored
tie. You will say that that is not a rope. Well, that is why it is the best. It is ANY spectators tie. Impromptu in any situation.
All problems solved. You only need to provide the balls to do it.
Message: Posted by: TrickyRicky (May 10, 2011 03:22PM)
Hi Stellan.
You could be right about the Jan Gallo's tie effect.
Take a look at Harold Sterling's Long and Short. Just the rope keeps getting longer on one side can create laughter.
Now, when you add funny situations to that it get funnier. It's a laugh a mimute.
One of the other reason I like the routine is I can use the same piece of rope for quite a few performances before I have to use a new piece.
It saves me a lot of money from buying rope.
It's also easy to set-up and there are no difficukt moves through the entire routine.
I don't know why more magicians are not doing this routine. Seems everyone is always looking for something new.
Tricky Ricky
Message: Posted by: Stellan (May 11, 2011 01:06AM)
It seems to be a very funny routine Ricky. I can understand why you use it. I think Paul Green uses some of it on his DVD.
Message: Posted by: TrickyRicky (May 11, 2011 03:11PM)
Hi Stellan.
Work the routine as it is and then put some funny situations with the handling of the chil and rope.
Here is an example.: After showing the rope hand it to the helper (Kid) --he keeps dropping the rope
Pick up and secretly place it around his shoulder and say 'where did you put it" the kids will cream their heads off.
I have a 6 inch piece tied to a reel hidden in my hand. I then cut off a piece of the long rope the same size as the piece tied to the reel.
I pretend to put the small piece on the floor and put my foot on it to keep in steady.The kids will cream at the piece floating up from the floor.
Everytime I push it back it does it again. All you have to say to the children 'If it does it again, just let me kno".
You then I really need 2 equal pieces and then go into the routine.
Hope this helps anyone who want to try the Sterling's routine.
Tricky Ricky
Message: Posted by: dlcmagic (May 12, 2011 07:22AM)
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On 2011-05-11 16:11, TrickyRicky wrote:
Hi Stellan.
Work the routine as it is and then put some funny situations with the handling of the chil and rope.
Here is an example.: After showing the rope hand it to the helper (Kid) --he keeps dropping the rope
Pick up and secretly place it around his shoulder and say 'where did you put it" the kids will cream their heads off.
I have a 6 inch piece tied to a reel hidden in my hand. I then cut off a piece of the long rope the same size as the piece tied to the reel.
I pretend to put the small piece on the floor and put my foot on it to keep in steady.The kids will cream at the piece floating up from the floor.
Everytime I push it back it does it again. All you have to say to the children 'If it does it again, just let me kno".
You then I really need 2 equal pieces and then go into the routine.
Hope this helps anyone who want to try the Sterling's routine.
Tricky Ricky
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Some great ideas, thank you Ricky!
Message: Posted by: Stellan (May 12, 2011 08:14AM)
Yes, it is very nice of you to share such great ideas.
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (May 12, 2011 11:33AM)
20 years ago I saw the great Jimmy Ray's cut and restore routine. He did about 15 minutes of continuous laughter with a 10 foot piece of rope, and a pair of scissors. I have since thanked Jimmy for showing me how it is done.
Message: Posted by: TrickyRicky (May 12, 2011 03:22PM)
I remember Jimmy Ray. He was a great performer and he also had his own torn and restored newspaper.
Thanks Al for reminding me of Jimmy.
Tricky Ricky
Message: Posted by: dlcmagic (May 12, 2011 10:42PM)
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On 2011-05-12 12:33, Al Angello wrote:
20 years ago I saw the great Jimmy Ray's cut and restore routine. He did about 15 minutes of continuous laughter with a 10 foot piece of rope, and a pair of scissors. I have since thanked Jimmy for showing me how it is done.
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Al, Is his routine in print? I'd be interested in reading it for additional ideas.

Posted: May 17, 2011 6:18am
Someone suggested Steve Bedwell's "In Over Your Head", a sort of paper balls over your head using rope.
Has anyone used this routine? What reactions did you get with it?
Dave

Posted: May 17, 2011 6:18am
Someone suggested Steve Bedwell's "In Over Your Head", a sort of paper balls over your head using rope.
Has anyone used this routine? What reactions did you get with it?
Dave
Message: Posted by: BobMc (May 17, 2011 10:07PM)
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On 2011-05-10 02:24, Pete Biro wrote:
For my money, the one I purchased in the 1950s, "Harold Sterling's Short and Long Rope Trick."
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Hi Pete, what is your opinion for the best way to learn this. I saw it is "Abbott's Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks for Magicians", but would you suggest a different place?

Thanks,
Bob
Message: Posted by: Jef Eaton (May 17, 2011 10:32PM)
I have seen Steve perform this trick and he absolutely killed with it.
I have not performed it, but if I was going to do a cut and restored routine with an adult spectator, it would be In over your head!!
Message: Posted by: Brian Tanner (May 17, 2011 11:51PM)
I enjoyed Michael Finney's "The Lady Rope Trick" from the L&L DVD's. Very funny stuff, and easy to do!
Message: Posted by: Whit Haydn (May 18, 2011 10:56PM)
I think Steve Bedwell has the funniest comedy rope routine with a spectator from the audience. It is a beautifully constructed, beautifully thought-out routine that magicians should study just for the number of problems he has solved.
Message: Posted by: dlcmagic (May 19, 2011 07:04AM)
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On 2011-05-17 23:32, Jef Eaton wrote:
I have seen Steve perform this trick and he absolutely killed with it.
I have not performed it, but if I was going to do a cut and restored routine with an adult spectator, it would be In over your head!!
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I have the booklet and am going to start working on it.
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On 2011-05-18 00:51, Brian Tanner wrote:
I enjoyed Michael Finney's "The Lady Rope Trick" from the L&L DVD's. Very funny stuff, and easy to do!
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It is a great routine and funny.
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On 2011-05-18 23:56, Whit Haydn wrote:
I think Steve Bedwell has the funniest comedy rope routine with a spectator from the audience. It is a beautifully constructed, beautifully thought-out routine that magicians should study just for the number of problems he has solved.
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I have decided to give it a try. I have the booklet and am going to start working on it.
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (May 20, 2011 09:16AM)
Dave
This one is called "at a loose end". It may help you get in the mood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLu3oFcL_qs
Message: Posted by: dlcmagic (May 20, 2011 09:23PM)
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On 2011-05-20 10:16, Al Angello wrote:
Dave
This one is called "at a loose end". It may help you get in the mood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLu3oFcL_qs
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Thank you Al !!
Message: Posted by: magicians (May 21, 2011 07:51AM)
His stuff is smoothly done, but the routine is a little too risque for me. And, that is a lot of the comedic effect to the routine. The patter hides the moves.
Message: Posted by: John Long (May 27, 2011 10:09PM)
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On 2011-05-21 08:51, magicians wrote:
His stuff is smoothly done, but the routine is a little too risque for me. And, that is a lot of the comedic effect to the routine. The patter hides the moves.
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Agreed

His cut and restored, where he runs the scissors to the middle of the rope, reminded me of the Vishnu rope cut, but seemed to be quite different. Is that method presented somewhere?

John
Message: Posted by: Aaron Smith Magic (May 28, 2011 02:51AM)
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On 2011-05-18 23:56, Whit Haydn wrote:
I think Steve Bedwell has the funniest comedy rope routine with a spectator from the audience. It is a beautifully constructed, beautifully thought-out routine that magicians should study just for the number of problems he has solved.
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I second Whit's recommendation. Steve's routine is brilliant. Think paper balls over the head meets cut & restored. It really is a great routine.
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On 2011-05-18 23:56, Whit Haydn wrote:
I think Steve Bedwell has the funniest comedy rope routine with a spectator from the audience. It is a beautifully constructed, beautifully thought-out routine that magicians should study just for the number of problems he has solved.
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I second Whit's recommendation. Steve's routine is brilliant. Think paper balls over the head meets cut & restored. It really is a great routine.
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (May 28, 2011 08:09AM)
John
That was not a vishnu rope mystery cut. He pulled a short piece out of his back pocket when he went for the scissors. I never saw it done like that before.
Message: Posted by: VE Day (May 28, 2011 09:28AM)
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On 2011-05-10 12:12, Pete Biro wrote:

At a recent roast of a Jewish friend (his 70th Birthday) I just did the rope trick and it killed.
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Not literally I hope?!
Message: Posted by: John Long (May 28, 2011 11:09AM)
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On 2011-05-28 09:09, Al Angello wrote:
John
That was not a vishnu rope mystery cut. He pulled a short piece out of his back pocket when he went for the scissors. I never saw it done like that before.
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Yes, that was what I thought, but I don't think I've seen that move before, and was wondering if it appear anywhere? The set-up seemed quite clean, the "move"/switch wasn't completely natural looking, but better than I think I could accomplish that.

John
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (May 28, 2011 12:06PM)
John
I have seen the little rope big rope moves before, but Steve Bedwell has the b***s to do it with two little pieces.

Here is a sweet move done by Roland Henning. The clip is in German, but Roland's magic is easy to follow.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_tZfinNNTw
Message: Posted by: John Long (May 28, 2011 06:25PM)
Yes, Roland is good, and with a crowd.
Message: Posted by: Whit Haydn (May 30, 2011 10:17PM)
Mongolian Pop-Knot, originally published in 1979:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUMOkWUM7yI&feature=related