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Topic: Name of rope and ring move
Message: Posted by: RevJohn (Jun 22, 2011 10:35PM)
Greetings!

Looking for a source/name of a move.

Ring is held in hand, and rope has a loose knot in the center (quite loose, like you could stick your hand through the center of the knot).

Tossing the ring onto the rope, it penetrates the knot and is found tied to the rope.

Basic move, but can't find my source for it.

Thanks!

RevJohn
Message: Posted by: Magic from A to Z (Jun 22, 2011 11:26PM)
RevJohn,

Is it Flips' Tossed Penetration?



allen
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jun 23, 2011 12:01AM)
Actually, this was a Tony Griffin's (from England) ring in rope move, he wrote a booklet on it in the 1970's, think it was loopy loop or something like that.
Message: Posted by: jolyonjenkins (Jun 23, 2011 02:56PM)
Tony Griffith's Ring Competition ends with a phase where you throw the ring onto the rope but it's not a real knot, it's a hitch(?)
Message: Posted by: RevJohn (Jun 23, 2011 03:14PM)
Yeah, I am thinking of something different. Griffith's end has the ring flipping in on itself, I think... hitching itself?

But he could have both moves in his routine or box of moves.

RevJohn
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jun 23, 2011 11:55PM)
Bob Miller's Relentless Ring and String has a move where your hand is slid along the string and deposits the ring inside a slip knot, though I haven't seen any where the ring is actually "tossed" onto the knot. Bob Miller's sleight is called "Fisher Ring". Scott Guinn uses this move in the routine called "Strung Out" contained in his ebook "My Best To You: Volume 3 - Close-up and Stand-Up" on page 31.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Dr_J_Ayala (Jun 24, 2011 08:41AM)
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On 2011-06-24 00:55, J-Mac wrote:
Bob Miller's Relentless Ring and String has a move where your hand is slid along the string and deposits the ring inside a slip knot, though I haven't seen any where the ring is actually "tossed" onto the knot. Bob Miller's sleight is called "Fisher Ring". Scott Guinn uses this move in the routine called "Strung Out" contained in his ebook "My Best To You: Volume 3 - Close-up and Stand-Up" on page 31.

Jim
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The knot used in the Fishermans Knot is a genuine knot. The Miller Relentless Ring & String routine is absolutely wonderful and a lot of fun to perform.

I seem to remember Aldo Colombini or maybe Ronald Dayton performing a type of ring on knot that used a genuine knot, and the ring was tossed onto it. If it was not one of them, then I have no idea who it was, but I know I have seen what RevJohn is describing. I will see if I can find out who it was and what the name of the move is.

I cannot remember his user name on here, but if you can find Ronald Dayton he may know the answer to your question.
Message: Posted by: Dr_J_Ayala (Jun 24, 2011 08:45AM)
Ronald Dayton can be found under the name KOTAH here on the Café.
Message: Posted by: Pecan_Creek (Jun 24, 2011 03:09PM)
Serveral of the routines on WGM Ring on Rope contain this move . As far as a name, I just watched this DVD last weeekend ,I don't know that any of the performers gave it a single name.
Message: Posted by: Leo Reynolds Jr (Jun 26, 2011 06:51PM)
Scott Guinn uses this in his ring on rope routine calls it Peter Samuelson's Finale from Theatrical Close-Up.

Best
Leo Jr
Message: Posted by: Anatole (Jul 18, 2011 06:14PM)
I think this might be part of Jack Miller's Linking Ring Routine in the section called (I think) " Miracle Moves with Ring and Rope" as described on H&R Magic Books site http://www.magicbookshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=4440

----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jul 19, 2011 05:02AM)
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On 2011-06-23 15:56, rjenkins wrote:
Tony Griffith's Ring Competition ends with a phase where you throw the ring onto the rope but it's not a real knot, it's a hitch(?)
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Don't know if you are referring to my post, but Tony Griffith effect in his booklet was and is a real knot, it is knot that has not been pulled tight. Just tie a knot in a single piece of rope, a loop forms, if you pull the knot so you have a small loop of about 10", using a 5' of 6' length of rope. Then throw the linking ring through the loop in the rope, it will penetrate the rope and hang from the loop of rope. You can pull the rope in the knot tight. Showing the ring knotted in the center of the rope.