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Topic: Where do you store your money?
Message: Posted by: Richard L. (Jun 27, 2011 04:34PM)
Hi everybody.

I've just recently started street performing and am having a blast. I just have a question for you all regarding where you put your hat money after each show. I am hesitant to put it in with my props because I set my bag on the ground sometimes and although I know it is unlikely, someone could walk off with it.

So, where do you store your money?
Message: Posted by: Bobby Maverick (Jun 27, 2011 06:05PM)
I aint tellin you....

:)
Message: Posted by: D. Yoder (Jun 27, 2011 10:27PM)
In my pants pocket until I get to my car or bicycle. Perhaps one day it will be so much that my pocket won't hold it. :)
Message: Posted by: JoeJoe (Jun 28, 2011 02:40AM)
I prefer the tip jar. I liken it to the ABC's of sales ... "always be closing". When people walk-up, they see the tip jar ... I am closing from the moment they see my "stage". And it's a large jar so I don't need to do anything with it through-out the night.

-JoeJoe
Message: Posted by: Eduardo (Jun 28, 2011 03:17AM)
Usualy I put it in the pouch... I only be happy whem my cervical start to bend... I'm not totaly happy with this one... but
Message: Posted by: Stperformer (Jun 28, 2011 07:16AM)
Pouch, pocket, tip jar, & top secret location.

Good grief
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Jun 28, 2011 09:52AM)
If you have a bag, tie it to your table. It's easy to grab and run. Not so easy with a table dragging behind you.
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Jun 28, 2011 10:38AM)
[img]http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u203/jazzysnazzy_album/BuskerBag01.jpg[/img]
Message: Posted by: Rotten (Jun 28, 2011 11:04AM)
Great pick Jazzy! And a great idea. Money can be replaced but I love my bag.

Who let Charlie Brown in here?
Message: Posted by: Stperformer (Jun 28, 2011 12:27PM)
Has anyone actually had there money stolen while performing on the streets????????????????
No I heard of or I know of.....but actually had it happen to them!

Personally if someone grabbed my stuff, I'd be far more concerned about loosing my props than the hard earned cash.

Dump your cash in with your stuff, don't make it too obvious, and keep it near you. That's it.
Message: Posted by: Stperformer (Jun 28, 2011 12:34PM)
I rememeber reading somewhere (perhaps Grooves book) a sugestion of stuffing the paper money in an envelope addressed to yourself and putting it in a mailbox between shows.

PFFFFFFFT!!!!!
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Jun 28, 2011 12:37PM)
One guy created a diversion while another grabbed my gaffed coins once
but that's all.
Message: Posted by: Richard L. (Jun 28, 2011 03:10PM)
Thanks for the info everybody. I just didn't know what other people did. Maybe I shouldn't be so worried about it. I don't know.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jun 28, 2011 11:23PM)
My grey bag (the one I carry the bucket out in) has a zippered compartment at the bottom (Since it's lined, I assume it's for bathing suits and/or wet towels).
Message: Posted by: Alexander Wells (Jun 29, 2011 02:18AM)
A rather dubious looking "charity collector" y'know, the ones with the dog eared, laminated id cards who operate in gangs, collect for the local dogs' home and dissappear when the police are around, once asked me where I keep my money. A rather suspicious, leading question if you ask me.
I told him I kept it in the bank like everyone else... then quickly changed the subject and let a little glimmer of madness escape my eye. He didn't pursue his line of enquiry.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Jun 29, 2011 06:13PM)
Our busking pouches have a zipper pocket in the back toward the body that is unseen. It's there specifically for:
1. putting the money during a show until you find a safer place.
2. putting trinkets between shows you you don't lose them (tt, coin purse, sharpie, ..)
Message: Posted by: MagiCol (Jun 30, 2011 12:44AM)
Yeah, I've been robbed once. Not big time i.e. not my days' takings. I was working on a street and high school kids appeared, making their way home from school. A group of about 8 boys gathered around, too close to me and my gear for comfort, and I was back-on to the street, on the footpath/pavement. One or two of the guys were standing right alongside me - uncomfortably close - and others talking in a small group in front of me. Soon afterwards a few of them walked off. I got control of those left , making them step back further and I did a bit of magic. I looked down at my hat and my $5 note [with a coin selotaped onto it to hold it down in windy conditions] that I put in the hat as an encourager for donations [I can't think of the name for that encourager at the moment - somebody remind me...], well the money was gone! I couldn't tell who had lifted it. I told the group around me "Pretty mean of somebody to take my pay!".
I put the event down to the fact that I was maturing in my Street Magic life.

Usually, I tuck my notes into a pocket at the back of my waistbag as I get them, or soon after, and just leave coins in the hat. Every so often I pick up most of the coins and put them away. I got warned by a security fellow to watch my hat, as sometimes it can be stolen by someone who grabs it and runs off to pocket the money. After than, I got myself a cheap hat that I put down on the ground got my money and keep my good hat on my head. A guitarist busker who works the area does that too.
Message: Posted by: MagiCol (Jun 30, 2011 12:46AM)
Correction: "After that, I got myself a cheap hat that I put down on the ground FOR my money..."
Message: Posted by: joe yang (Jun 30, 2011 06:04AM)
To add to what Joe Joe posted, working 42nd Street, in the 80's, I took a leap of faith and kept my tips in a large wooden patra, or alms bowl, on the sidewalk in front of me. It was always in the corner of my eye. It was always in the corner of the audience's eye. I think it added a little to the tension and humor of my show. Everyone knew it was crazy to leave money on the sidewalk in NY. Like the elephant in the room, it was always there and I think it cut down on my need to use hat lines.

I always closed every fifteen minute set with some Ianuki, a sword trick/escape. (Try working on the street in NYC today with even a prop sword today, LOL!) When I was tied up, I would hop around with the bowl, admonishing the specs to tip before I finished and they ran off. That was just for laughs, I always passed the bowl after closing.

I noted at the time all the musicians who left music cases out, all the mimes leaving hats out, working for the trickle. I knew it could be done. I got some trickle too. I had regulars who knew my routines. They would stop by on lunch just to watch the improve and clowning I did with volunteers. They would leave for work before I closed, dropping money in the bowl on the way.

Not telling anyone how to work. Just sharing what worked for me. I never let the tips leave my sight. I worked that into my show. I never had a problem.
Message: Posted by: The Great Zoobini (Jun 30, 2011 01:29PM)
[quote]
On 2011-06-30 01:44, MagiCol wrote:
$5 that I put in the hat as an encourager for donations [I can't think of the name for that encourager at the moment - somebody remind me[/quote]

"seed" or "seeding" the hat in order to grow it
Message: Posted by: JoeJoe (Jun 30, 2011 02:22PM)
[quote]
On 2011-06-30 07:04, joe yang wrote:
When I was tied up, I would hop around with the bowl, admonishing the specs to tip before I finished and they ran off. That was just for laughs, I always passed the bowl after closing.
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You can also put money into the bowl yourself during the show ... I do that with my tip jar a lot. I'll do a trick with a dollar bill and then drop the bill into the tip jar.

The static tip jar also has the advantage that you can work both a trickle and flush with it.

-JoeJoe
Message: Posted by: Eduardo (Jun 30, 2011 06:44PM)
If you don't trust the neighbourhood you exchange it to paper money, and store the bills in your pants our socks...
Message: Posted by: Eduardo (Jun 30, 2011 07:00PM)
[quote]
On 2011-06-30 14:29, The Great Zoobini wrote:
[quote]
On 2011-06-30 01:44, MagiCol wrote:
$5 that I put in the hat as an encourager for donations [I can't think of the name for that encourager at the moment - somebody remind me[/quote]

"seed" or "seeding" the hat in order to grow it
[/quote]

or not...

if you trickle...

one clever busker I've saw once have a kind of small basket like an ashtray, where people put the money and could only see the last coins putted in the basket... like people thinking "the guy will see my coin"

This guy could busk in hell
Message: Posted by: joe yang (Jun 30, 2011 07:52PM)
Good thread. Joe Joe, in all my years of playing with Bill From Orange, it never occurred to me to put the torn bill into my bowl. It will be the opening bit next Season.
Message: Posted by: D. Yoder (Jul 2, 2011 09:04PM)
Two weeks ago I had a young man who said he was dropping money into the hat, but all I saw was his hand coming out with a wad of bills. I wasn't sure how much had been in the hat so I really couldn't prove anything since he didn't take all of it. Since then t I've started pocketing the money after each group or show and only leaving seed money in the hat. I like the idea of attaching the seed money to the hat in a semi permanent manner.
Message: Posted by: acephale (Jul 3, 2011 01:11AM)
I've had money stolen out of my tip jar which hangs off the front of the table when working the market (they have some weird rules: mutate, adapt, and evolve). This kid dipped and ran, I followed for about three steps before realizing I was leaving the rest wide open and went back.

Now I keep a small stuffed eagle in my tip jar (it's actually a painted coffee can so you know the dimensions). I have hat lines built into the show, so when I finish people are putting money both into the hat on the table and the tip jar. I move the money from the hat into the jar, and then pull the stuffed animal up and put it back down on top of the cash. This keeps the cash squashed to the bottom, makes sure anyone that tries the dip and run only ends up with a stuffed animal (has happened twice since and both dropped it about half-way down the block when they realized what they'd grabbed), and also has the unexpected benefit of kids that know what type of stuffed animal it is and wanting to talk about it, which is always an instant crowd build.
Message: Posted by: MagiCol (Jul 3, 2011 05:32AM)
"This kid dipped and ran, I followed for about three steps before realizing I was leaving the rest wide open and went back."
Yeah, that's the problem. Pointless to chase after a few dollars while leaving your more valuable gear open to anyone else stealing it while you're away.
Message: Posted by: Rotten (Jul 3, 2011 12:10PM)
I have two zippered money bags you can get from any office supply store. The bad thing is it looks like a money bag. The good thing is it works like a money bag. The second my tips slow down I place my hat on my case and put a bandana on top of the cash so it can't blow away. If a person was slow to come up or had to go to the ATM, which happens almost every show, they can still drop it in my hat that is in plane sight I reset. Then I pull all of it out of my hat, stuff it in a money bag and put that in my case.

I use two so I can separate them in two cases. Perhaps I'm paranoid but my father was a cop and I have heard horrible stories. I figure if I was robbed on my way to the car I could give them one money bag and still have half a days pay for myself. I doubt it will ever happen. The other reason for two bags is if it's a good day it won't all fit in one!

Then again you can get robbed in another way. The establishment in which I work towed my truck the other night because the front two wheels were on the grass. There were no signs and I had been parking there for several weeks. Last night there were three cars all the way on the grass just where I had parked the night before. It cost 80% of my days work to get my truck back so I could go home. I'll be talking to said establishment this week in order to get a permit or a parking space. I was a little ticked off about it but kept my cool. I looked at the man that owned the towing company and said "Well at least someone is making money tonight." UHG...
Message: Posted by: J.G. the magnificent (Jul 5, 2011 03:12PM)
[quote]
On 2011-06-28 03:40, JoeJoe wrote:
I prefer the tip jar. I liken it to the ABC's of sales ... "always be closing". When people walk-up, they see the tip jar ... I am closing from the moment they see my "stage". And it's a large jar so I don't need to do anything with it through-out the night.

-JoeJoe
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I have been told to not do a tip jar or box whatever you may use. Simply because people may walk away with it. Guess some have done so how do you manage to avoid theifs?
Message: Posted by: J.G. the magnificent (Jul 5, 2011 03:14PM)
[quote]
On 2011-06-28 04:17, Eduardo wrote:
Usualy I put it in the pouch... I only be happy whem my cervical start to bend... I'm not totaly happy with this one... but
[/quote]
My pouch has a zipper pocket in back for money.
Message: Posted by: J.G. the magnificent (Jul 5, 2011 03:19PM)
[quote]
On 2011-06-28 10:52, Dave V wrote:
If you have a bag, tie it to your table. It's easy to grab and run. Not so easy with a table dragging behind you.
[/quote]
Awsome but what if you don't use a table?
Message: Posted by: Paddy (Jul 5, 2011 06:16PM)
I keep mine right next to my concealed weapon.

JUST KIDDING!!
Message: Posted by: Tim Friday (Jul 13, 2011 12:00AM)
[quote]
On 2011-07-03 13:10, Rotten wrote:
I have two zippered money bags you can get from any office supply store. The bad thing is it looks like a money bag. The good thing is it works like a money bag. The second my tips slow down I place my hat on my case and put a bandana on top of the cash so it can't blow away. If a person was slow to come up or had to go to the ATM, which happens almost every show, they can still drop it in my hat that is in plane sight I reset. Then I pull all of it out of my hat, stuff it in a money bag and put that in my case.

I use two so I can separate them in two cases. Perhaps I'm paranoid but my father was a cop and I have heard horrible stories. I figure if I was robbed on my way to the car I could give them one money bag and still have half a days pay for myself. I doubt it will ever happen. The other reason for two bags is if it's a good day it won't all fit in one!

Then again you can get robbed in another way. The establishment in which I work towed my truck the other night because the front two wheels were on the grass. There were no signs and I had been parking there for several weeks. Last night there were three cars all the way on the grass just where I had parked the night before. It cost 80% of my days work to get my truck back so I could go home. I'll be talking to said establishment this week in order to get a permit or a parking space. I was a little ticked off about it but kept my cool. I looked at the man that owned the towing company and said "Well at least someone is making money tonight." UHG...
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Along with what Rotten describes above... I think it is in a Whit Haydn book he explains how buskers used to carry a duplicate money bag filled with washers. They would give the decoy bag to the thieves then be far from danger when the thieves open the dummy bag and realize they had been duped. The same could be accomplished with what Rotten uses or with simple small size duffle bags, just cut newspaper into dollar size pieces, put in bag, then litter the top of bag with 10 one dollar bills.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jul 13, 2011 04:24AM)
I would imagine you'd have to reconsider going back to that spot for awhile afterwards, they could come back and look for you.
Message: Posted by: Bobert (Jul 13, 2011 07:31AM)
I would definitely reconsider where I am working if I was robbed there. I don't want to be killed over money.
Message: Posted by: dlcmagic (Aug 17, 2011 10:55PM)
My pouch from Frank Starsini has a zippered pocket in the back. After each show I put the money in there.