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Topic: Boomerang Rubberband
Message: Posted by: AlexWong (Aug 31, 2003 07:04AM)
Hi! Anyone tried the rubberband effect on Paul Daniel's "Inner secrets of Professional Magic" ?

I wonder if anyone has a problem "Not letting the rubberband slide over the nail" ?
Message: Posted by: vinsmagic (Aug 31, 2003 11:55AM)
There been alot of hype about this effect . I bought it and tried to do the effect but was unsuccessful. I kept losing the bands. I guess my hands are not made to do it.

If some one else has accomplished this feat let me know.
Message: Posted by: Stanyon (Aug 31, 2003 10:17PM)
Dan Garrett does a mean version. Saw him do this on a carpeted floor!

Cheers! ;)
Message: Posted by: sleightofhand1 (Sep 1, 2003 10:39PM)
I have done this, and yes it does come back to you.
looks good, I do this, then produce a huge tire tube and make the tube come back too. :rotf:
Message: Posted by: Review King (Sep 1, 2003 10:44PM)
Remember as kids we'd take a hula hoop and snap it forward and it would go 10 feet and then roll back to us? Same principle.

I wish selightofhand1's post would roll back to him!
Message: Posted by: Jaxon (Sep 2, 2003 11:40AM)
I have a friend named Bob Lesterhouse who is actually more of a clown magician and he's been doing a couple of versions of this trick for years. That is if this is the same effect you're all talking about. I haven't seen Paul Daniel's version. The band is shot and when it hits the floor some feet away it rolls back to you? Let me know if it's a different effect then this. Maybe one of the versions my friend does is Pauls.

Anyway, the difference in the two versions my friend does is that in one method the band is rigged to the hand with the hand in a gun shape.
The other version the band runs from your thumb to your little finger. In my experience the method where it runs from your thumb to little finger works best.

Being careful not to hint the method there are a couple of tips I can share. You have to use the right size band of course. Then, make sure the band doesn't get twisted.

Anyway, Bob does this trick so well. It shoots about 20 feet and comes back sometimes (With the right conditions that is).

Ron Jaxon
Message: Posted by: niva (Sep 2, 2003 12:06PM)
Vinny, I imagine your house is full of rubber bands now. :lol:
Message: Posted by: vinsmagic (Sep 3, 2003 09:13AM)
Niva, you hit the nail right on the head, Right now I'm working on some new rubberband stuff.
Message: Posted by: Ian Richards (Sep 3, 2003 10:43AM)
The Boomerang Rubber Band is explained in a booklet by Chris Kenner and Dan Garrett and also on the Rubber Band Magic Volume 3 video by Dan Harlan. It does take some practice to be able to get the rubber band into the right position before shooting it without it flying off the fingers prematurely, but you will eventually get the knack. It is also helpful if the rubber band is close to circular rather than elliptical and about 1 1/2 inches in diameter.
Message: Posted by: Findlay (Sep 4, 2003 02:40AM)
I spoke to Paul Daniels about this trick when he was here in Edinburgh, and he said the band must be circular and a size 4. Hope this may be of some help. :nose:
Message: Posted by: Paul Chosse (Sep 4, 2003 08:49AM)
I first saw this in 1982. Mike Weber did it at a one day convention in PennGrove, Ca. It was written up in a Magicana by Charlie Miller, I believe. Seems like it was a rumor, with no method described, at first, then Weber worked it out, then it got around and various methods were published. When Mike did it, he shot the band downhill and it ran back up!

Best, PSC
Message: Posted by: phantomace (Sep 6, 2003 02:46AM)
I have a version where I bet a person that I can get it before they do. They stand approx. 5-10 feet accross from me. I tell them that I will shoot it with one hand, and it will land right in front of them, but I can get it before they do. Should see the look on their face when they bend down to get it and it comes rolling back to me. Priceless.lol

I have a little nail sticking out, so I don't have the slip problem.
Message: Posted by: Bradley Morgan (Sep 11, 2003 12:56AM)
Here is a page that shows you how to do it.


Message: Posted by: MagicMan1957 (Sep 12, 2003 02:30AM)
Well I checked out the site with the instructions and I just can't figure this out and I do lots of band tricks. Anyone else have this problem?
Message: Posted by: djvirtualreality (Sep 12, 2003 07:28AM)
I've tried this. This is hard for me. The rubber band just shoots where ever it wants to go lol.
Message: Posted by: Jordini (Sep 13, 2003 01:07AM)
I learned this trick from a friend of mine, and it just takes a lot of practice. It took a whole week just to make it come back a few times. Now I have perfected it and I can do it anywhere anytime. I do it across tables which is neat, and sometimes outdoors when the weather is not too windy. I call it my sheepdog rubber band that comes back to me when I whistle. (Forgive me if someone has already come up with this. I'm unnaware). Also, for the bands, I found great ones at Office Depo called "Brites" They come in different sizes and colors, and blue works the best.
Message: Posted by: Ronnie Ramin (Sep 13, 2003 08:19AM)
The technique I use for the "boomerang Band"

I can get at least a 20 foot return most of the time, but I do it differently than the link Bradley posted teaches it.

I use a small circular rubber band, as opposed to the ones you would normally use for the Crazy Mans Handcuff's.
When I do it I make the "handgun" shape, I start by hooking it around my pinky first and pull up on it stretching only the left half of the loop. I then wrap that around my thumb and hook the stretched portion of the band over the top of my forefinger nail.
Turn your hand upside down and get it about a foot off the ground . Then release the band with your PINKY. it should glide out there in a low arc. When it touches the ground it'll catch traction and head your way.

Important points to remember: you are only stretching one side of the band (that's what gives it spin) and on some floors you may not be getting enough traction (it just hits the ground and spins)

Hope this helps,
Message: Posted by: mugician51 (Sep 13, 2003 02:11PM)
I got the boomarang band and I thought that it was a waste of $5.00. I couldn't understand how you are supposed to get the backspin.

It basically says to shoot the rubber band to the floor and it will come back, but I don't get the exact way that you are supposed to do that. I don't think this was meant to be taught in a manuscript.
Message: Posted by: CSStanton (Sep 13, 2003 03:52PM)
When I was last in Colon, a kid from Vegas showed me this. We were in the gym, right next to Fukai's 'shop'. The long isle was clear and he shot a few. After awhile, he offered to show it to me. I was informed that you need a size 16 rubberband, patience and some time. I was able to get it to work in a few minutes.
Now, I do it when I am at stores where they have them out. I found it just as easy to do it on the carpet as on tile or concrete. The method I use is the one Ron Jaxon mentioned (he was at Curly's when I was practicing) where it goes from the thumb to the pinky. And as he stated, it must not be twisted.

PM me for help.
Message: Posted by: tommy ng (Sep 14, 2003 10:12PM)
I talked with Paul Daniels in 2000 at a convention, we find we can use two hands. It's better and easy to let the rubber band come back.
Message: Posted by: bevbevvybev (Oct 13, 2003 05:13PM)
Yeah this rubber band here doesn't want to go where I'm aiming either lol.
Message: Posted by: skc417 (Nov 13, 2003 09:36AM)
It's quite hard I would imagine to get this one down, I don't think it's worth it, it's not really magical even if you could do it. It would just look like a really cool stunt? right?
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Nov 14, 2003 10:54AM)
I've had no troubles doing this from Chris Kenner's booklet. I think it's called "Band across the World"

The concept is similar to the link above, but you only use one hand to shoot it rather than having to grip a portion with the other hand as Don Cox does.

I don't get a lot of distance, but I've had fun with it. There's a long desk (reception/security) at the entrance of my building and I've been able to shoot it the length of the desk and back a number of times.

All other suggestions are true. Round band, good surface, practise, etc...

Yes, it looks like a "cool stunt" but sometimes that's enough.
Message: Posted by: Doug McKenzie (Nov 17, 2003 09:02PM)
This trick is awesome.
The size of the band does matter. The best bands that I have used are the little red ones that all delis have in nyc. I do not know the exact size, but "size matters". I have never seen Kenner do it, but supposedly (I have heard from many sources), Kenner can make the band roll up his arm and into a shirt pocket upon its return.