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Topic: Lessons In Magic by Juan Tamariz
Message: Posted by: PyroDevil (Sep 2, 2003 10:55AM)
I did a search on this series and it kept saying must have four letters or something.
So, I'm asking what you guys think about this set?? Any Good?? Worth Getting??
Please post reviews here.
Message: Posted by: Nir Dahan (Sep 2, 2003 01:30PM)
If you look for a lot of quick effects - this set is not for you.

Tamariz's effects are long and structured.

I currently perform his "neither blind nor silly", "cards accross" and "follow the leader" from his tapes.

but the tapes give you much more than just tricks, if you are serious about magic you should see this living legend in action.

I would recommend more his lectures from international magic. less effects but more theory.

enjoy...
Message: Posted by: Review King (Sep 2, 2003 02:16PM)
I know the world thinks he's one of the great magcians, but I had this set and thought it stunk to high heaven. Magic is more than sleights-it's about entertaining and this guy has the longest, most boring plots.

That's just me.

Chris
Message: Posted by: JimMaloney (Sep 2, 2003 02:36PM)
Although I enjoy Juan Tamariz very much, his style is going to appeal more to Spanish and other European cultures more than it will to Americans. In his home country, he's pretty much a household name, like Copperfield here in the US or Paul Daniels in the UK.

And also, if you watch the Lessons In Magic tapes, you'll see that Juan KNOWS magic is about more than sleights. Heck, Vol. 2 is subtitled "Magic and Emotion" if I remember correctly. Remeber that just because his style doesn't appeal to you, that doesn't mean it's BAD. ;)

-Jim
Message: Posted by: Schaden (Sep 2, 2003 02:42PM)
Chris,

I see where what you are talking about. A lot of his plots drag on for too long but, he does have some great magic. If you don't like the magic then at least you can get some ideas.

I thought his Ace routine was the best ever invented.

Thanks,
Lee
Message: Posted by: p.b.jones (Sep 2, 2003 04:26PM)
Hi,
I think often with Tamariz it is a matter of you either love or hate him, Personaly I find him hilarious and do not notice that the routines are overly long (though they are longer than I would perform)
Phillip
Message: Posted by: Review King (Sep 2, 2003 09:11PM)
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On 2003-09-02 15:42, pyro_magic wrote:
Chris,

I see where what you are talking about. A lot of his plots drag on for too long but, he does have some great magic. If you don't like the magic then at least you can get some ideas.

I thought his Ace routine was the best ever invented.

Thanks,
Lee
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Lee, I got rid of the videos before I watched that routine. Is it an un-gimmicked Ace Assmebly?

Thanks!!
Chris
Message: Posted by: PyroDevil (Sep 3, 2003 09:46AM)
I've heard that Juan Tamarix Lecture videos are better than Lessons in Magic video cause it's got my information of people. Is this true :question:
Should I get the Lecture videos instead of Lessons in MAgic :question:
Message: Posted by: p.b.jones (Sep 3, 2003 02:09PM)
I've heard that Juan Tamarix Lecture videos are better than Lessons in Magic video cause it's got my information of people. Is this true
Should I get the Lecture videos instead of Lessons in MAgic

HI,
IF you want to see what Tamariz is really like and get a good dose of his theorys and some tricks the Two lecture video's from international are best.... If you are looking for tricks only then the lesons are better value to you... I prefer the International lectures but have them all.
Phillip
Message: Posted by: Nir Dahan (Sep 3, 2003 03:27PM)
Another nice thing about the Tamariz lectures is that he doesn't teach all of the effects.
most people will find it annoying but I love it. usually the effects which are not taught are the killer ones.
do yourself a favor and get those lecture tapes!!!
Message: Posted by: PyroDevil (Sep 9, 2003 09:37PM)
Ok Guys, I was going to get the Lessons in Magic series first, But I think I'll have to get the Lectures series first because everybody says their better to get first.
Thanx for your support guys!


PyroDevil :devilish:
Message: Posted by: truthteller (Sep 9, 2003 11:41PM)
don't judge Tamariz until you see him in person. His persona is infectuous and if you strudy the reactions of the people in his shots, you will see they are both engaged and entertained.
Message: Posted by: Ricky B (Sep 9, 2003 11:54PM)
One comment about the tapes. Juan's accent is a bit thick, and you may have to rewind and listen a couple of times to get what he is saying.

As I recall, a number of effects require gaffs or gimmicks, and that may be a consideration for some.

--Rick
Message: Posted by: landmark (Feb 22, 2004 02:47PM)
Hi,

I just got a look at the Lessons in Magic tape. I think there are a number of very strong effects including Neither Blind Nor Stupid, and especially his Four of a Kind routine which seems almost inexplicable.

I can see how Tamariz's performance style isn't to everybody's taste, but I think watching him is a great lesson in how one can use one's own personality to create a unique performing persona. Personally, I enjoy watching Tamariz immensely.

As for the long plots, watching him do the Centauros is clearly not MTV, but look at the effect that that piece had on the spectator. By the end of that eight minutes of enchantment, that spectator was ready to run off with Juan and elope. Tamariz had really touched her [i]emotionally[/i]. Would that effect fool any magicians?--I doubt it, even I could follow it move for move, but that's not the point in this effect. There are plenty of other magician foolers on the tapes. The point here is the way that one can take something ordinary and give it maximum impact. Definitely worth studying and thinking about.

Anyway, I recommend these tapes.

Jack Shalom
Message: Posted by: Bobby Forbes (Dec 29, 2004 08:59PM)
I have lessons in magic vol. 2 and 3 and didn't care for them at all. Although Jaun is a funny guy those tapes are the worst ones that I ever bought
Message: Posted by: HypnoticQueen (Dec 29, 2004 11:07PM)
His magic is kinda long, but well structured, I had the VHS series and I bought it only for his perpendicul control that is all, I never perform his routines , so long.But he is an amazing magician.Not my style tho..
Message: Posted by: Close.Up.Dave (Dec 29, 2004 11:23PM)
I like his style of magic, unfortunately the way he plays out his tricks doesn't fit the American culture. Even my mom felt that his cannible cards routine was too long but still amazing. A trick from Mnemonica, I think it was Total Memory with the half stack, was one of the coolest tricks. I tried it out and it was just too long. I only have volume 2 of his video series and I like it a lot. I use his trick Four of a Kind from that tape all of the time and it kills for laymen and magicians alike (he has this in Mnemonica under the name All of a Kind). His style may not be for all but the fact remains that his magic is unbeleivable when seen performed. That's one of the reasons I have trouble visualizing some of the tricks from Mnemonica, some you have to see him perform to understand why he has them structured the way they are. I loved that interview between Tamariz and Ascanio in Magic Magazine recently, it really made me understand why Tamariz is able to touch his audience emotionally and showed me why he has his performances drawn out the way he does. Still, some of the tricks he has only seem to look good in his hands. I think the tapes are worth it, I plan to get the other two as well as his lecture videos.
Message: Posted by: rjs (Jan 7, 2013 03:18PM)
Culture? What culture?
Message: Posted by: rjs (Jan 7, 2013 03:20PM)
Culture? What culture?
Message: Posted by: asherfox (Jan 8, 2013 02:01AM)
You may like to download it from vanishing.inc.
40 for all. great deal of magic.
Message: Posted by: MuscleMagic (Jan 8, 2013 09:54PM)
If you do tricks for americans under the age of 30 you better keep things moving or you will have a emty room and terrible reviews

I like his stuff and its entertaining to watch but do not try it on a young crowd in the usa even if you are ricky jay, don't do it
Message: Posted by: robvh (Jan 21, 2020 10:43PM)
I've gotten a lot of mileage out of Neither Blind Nor Stupid which flows beautifully into another routine I do which packs an emotional punch.

I also just learned The Caricature and tweaked it a little bit, particularly the presentation, to make a romantic routine for my wife's birthday. She loves Juan Tamariz so I was able to tie him in nicely as well.

Use your imagination like Juan does and you too will have your audience saying "AWWWWW!". ;)

Both of these routines are on Volume 1 of his Lessons of Magic videos.

Thank you, Maestro!
Message: Posted by: nyborn (Feb 4, 2020 04:44PM)
His enthusiasm is infectious. You want to perform with all his joy and playfulness, but if it's not you, it's not going to fly. I bet he kills with the kids too!
Message: Posted by: Aelumag (Feb 21, 2021 03:19AM)
Long and structured? More like long and boring. Neverending visual and audio agony. I just watched these DVDs (on fast forward and had to skip jump many sections to make it bearable) and concluded that they were the biggest mistake I ever made in purchasing magic.

Whoever told Juan Tamariz that he is funny and entertaining has done the magic community as big a disservice as Juan Tamariz himself. I get it, he is a thinker, he has his Mnemonica contribution, but he is a disgrace to the magic community in my opinion. Paul Wilson actually has a very interesting lecture on The Perception of Magic and Magicians and I believe Juan Tamariz belongs in there with the reasons why magic's perception became so perverted over the years. I mean detach yourself as an external observer and judge as objectively as humanly possible if this is art.

The screaming, the habit of startling the spectators (is this supposed to be funny?) the poor taste in clothing, the stupid looking hat, the hairdo (Dear God), the charisma (or lack thereof) of a kindergarten boy, compare all these to let's say...Channing Pollock. Top of my head. If I would see him approaching my table dressed like a poor fisherman I would just leave the venue. Not to mention on a stage. I mean look at the women in the audience, what do you think they think of him? And compare to how women in the audience look at Martin Nash, even in his late years. When you are a performer, you need to take care of your appearance too. Magic is not the tricks alone, it's everything. You have to breathe magic upon your spectators, to engulf them in magic, in a special kind of atmosphere, not make them feel like they are witnessing the Special Olympics.

This is not magic and this is no art. I mean if any of you would see a young man just starting in magic, doing what he does, with no history in magic whatsoever in terms of putting out effects and thinking contribution, let's say at America's got Talent or Penn and Teller, you would be disgusted. But because he is Juan Tamariz I feel that the magic community feels compelled to give him praise with no merit. How can the community tolerate this and still let Juan Tamariz perform? And tell him that he's entertaining.

I mean witness the last minute of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2nAoKePdbM

The question that keeps popping up in my head is: WHY? Why force an audience onto something like this?

As for the effects, they match his presentation. I didn't find anything to perform from these DVDs that don't have a better version somewhere else. And coming with a 2 meters long piece of cardboard to perform a downgrading effect with a toy car? Really? In your 60s? Something is not right there. And btw, on his AC routine on disc 3, if Fred Braue would see the pop up bent card phase he would twist in his grave.

I feel sorry for whatever childhood Juan Tamariz must have experienced, but this should stop. He is the reason why magic lost elegance and became cheap entertainment. And no, Europeans don't stand for that charade. I am from Europe and this is not tolerable. If there would be a trick that I would perform for Juan Tamariz it would definitely be Dani Garcia's gag of smashing the cards in his head. Well, sorry, but this is my opinion. I think he would be a better performer if he would simply do magic to music and that's it.
Message: Posted by: jkr (Feb 21, 2021 06:59AM)
[quote]On Feb 21, 2021, Aelumag wrote:


I mean witness the last minute of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2nAoKePdbM

The question that keeps popping up in my head is: WHY? Why force an audience onto something like this?

[/quote]

That was quite painful to watch. I did not enjoy anything from that effect.