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Topic: The ancients did not have flushing toilets....
Message: Posted by: Pakar Ilusi (Oct 21, 2011 04:43AM)
They had their pyramids but I can't live without flushing toilets! :applause:

We are lucky! :banana:

That and The Magic Café! :ohyes:
Message: Posted by: Michael Daniels (Oct 21, 2011 05:18AM)
According to Wikipedia, flush toilets date back to about 3000 BCE. Thomas Crapper merely popularised them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flush_toilet

Mike
Message: Posted by: Pakar Ilusi (Oct 21, 2011 05:22AM)
Well, at least I still have The Magic Café. :ohyes:
Message: Posted by: Woland (Oct 21, 2011 05:28AM)
I remember seeing the remnants of the plumbing system at Teotihuacan . . . probably 3,000 years old. I'm not sure they had actual flushing toilets, but they had running water flowing through channels in their homes.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Oct 21, 2011 08:07AM)
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On 2011-10-21 06:28, Woland wrote:
I remember seeing the remnants of the plumbing system at Teotihuacan . . . probably 3,000 years old. I'm not sure they had actual flushing toilets, but they had running water flowing through channels in their homes.
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I think that's a very important distinction. Engineering-wise anyways.

John
Message: Posted by: Woland (Oct 21, 2011 09:03AM)
Just checked on-line. There is an apparent toilet excavated at Teotihuacan. How it would have been flushed is unclear, it might have required the use of a bucket.
Message: Posted by: critter (Oct 21, 2011 11:16AM)
Flush toilets are nice, but hardly a necessity. It has never been more than mildly inconvenient to stay on property with outhouses or even to **** in the woods.
Now, spoons. We need spoons.
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Oct 21, 2011 11:21AM)
When I was a kid we had a comic book hero called Dick Tracy. His only advantage over criminals was his Dick Tracy wrist watch, which allowed him to have two way communications with police headquarters. This was an invincible crime fighting tool back in the 1950's.
Message: Posted by: critter (Oct 21, 2011 11:30AM)
I used to have a Dick Tracy watch. They did make that ****ty Dick Tracy movie in the 90's, y'know.
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Oct 21, 2011 11:54AM)
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On 2011-10-21 12:16, critter wrote:
Flush toilets are nice, but hardly a necessity. It has never been more than mildly inconvenient to stay on property with outhouses or even to **** in the woods.
Now, spoons. We need spoons.
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Yeah, but using squat toilets is disgusting. And you find squat toilets through a huge part of the world (including France and Spain). I'd rather use an outhouse than a squat toilet. Or go in the woods. Ain't nothing wrong with going in the woods. Unless there are snakes. Not many snakes in Germany. Maybe there are in Spain and France. Maybe there's a connection.
Message: Posted by: randirain (Oct 21, 2011 12:35PM)
The ancient Greeks and Romans had a flushing toilet system.

Everybody pooped together though.

That's a deal breaker for me.

Randi
Message: Posted by: critter (Oct 21, 2011 12:39PM)
Was there a schedule? Like for school lunches? This is fascinating...
Message: Posted by: Tom Jorgenson (Oct 21, 2011 12:47PM)
Squat Pots are the worst! My body does NOT know what to do in that position. Japan still is rampant with them. After a certain age, it's a toss up whether you will c**p in one or fall in one.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Oct 21, 2011 12:48PM)
So mentulum cacat was not an idle thread?
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Oct 21, 2011 12:49PM)
My grand father called them "thunder buckets"
Message: Posted by: Woland (Oct 21, 2011 01:10PM)
Yes, Randi, you can see the remnants of a public Roman toilet in the excavated park at the Largo di Torre d'Argentina, near where Caesar was killed in the portico of Pompey's theatre. There is also a cat sanctuary there. At any rate, going to the toilet was apparently a more or less public, social event for the Romans, which the togat facilitated. According to our guide, sans paper, they shared a sponge on a stick dipped in vinegar'd water.
Message: Posted by: critter (Oct 21, 2011 01:12PM)
Now, the shared sponge. That's the deal breaker for me.
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Oct 21, 2011 01:28PM)
I dunno. Some people like that sort of think. I bet ten bucks there is a website dedicated to it. But I ain't gonna Google "vinegared sponge stick sharing fetish" tonight. I'll wait for it on the Donahue show.
Message: Posted by: critter (Oct 21, 2011 01:33PM)
Whatever floats their possum, I guess.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Oct 21, 2011 01:49PM)
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On 2011-10-21 14:33, critter wrote:
Whatever floats their possum, I guess.
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:rotf:
Message: Posted by: randirain (Oct 21, 2011 09:30PM)
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On 2011-10-21 14:10, Woland wrote:
Yes, Randi, you can see the remnants of a public Roman toilet in the excavated park at the Largo di Torre d'Argentina, near where Caesar was killed in the portico of Pompey's theatre. There is also a cat sanctuary there. At any rate, going to the toilet was apparently a more or less public, social event for the Romans, which the togat facilitated. According to our guide, sans paper, they shared a sponge on a stick dipped in vinegar'd water.
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Yes, I know. I watch the History, discovery, and science channels religiously.

It's still a deal breaker.

Randi
Message: Posted by: landmark (Oct 22, 2011 06:30AM)
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On 2011-10-21 14:28, stoneunhinged wrote:
I dunno. Some people like that sort of think. I bet ten bucks there is a website dedicated to it. But I ain't gonna Google "vinegared sponge stick sharing fetish" tonight. I'll wait for it on the Donahue show.
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If you're talking about Phil, you've either 1) been away longer than you think 2) Get some awfully old re-runs there in the new country or 3) have also been boarding some old grizzled Japanese guy who thinks that WWll is still going on.

BTW I'd be curious as to what were some other prevalent toilet paper schemes through the ages.
Message: Posted by: Tom Jorgenson (Oct 22, 2011 01:36PM)
Corn Cobs were recycled to a bucket in the outhouse in Grampa's younger days. The Sear's Catalog was great before they slicked up the paper. And, of course, a left thumb and sand for the desert nations. Still popular, I hear. That's all I know (or want to know)about it.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Oct 22, 2011 10:43PM)
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On 2011-10-21 12:30, critter wrote:
I used to have a Dick Tracy watch. They did make that ****ty Dick Tracy movie in the 90's, y'know.
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I liked that movie. But I don't think we saw any flush toilets in it.
Message: Posted by: critter (Oct 23, 2011 10:01AM)
Unless you count Madonna. Bazinga!
Message: Posted by: tommy (Oct 23, 2011 10:31AM)
Its only the 1% that have them.
Message: Posted by: Woland (Oct 23, 2011 11:45AM)
That was the case once, tommy, and you thereby provide another illustration of the fact that the grinding poverty of the past has largely disappeared from the Western industrial democracies. Which must be why the eco-enthusiasts and socialists want to tear it down . . . .
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Oct 23, 2011 11:48AM)
Flush toilets were largely responsible for a number of cholera outbreaks in the 19th century. People didn't realize that backyard (and basement!) cesspools were a bad idea.

Go figure.

John
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Oct 23, 2011 12:02PM)
John, that reminds me that the public offering of clean water and proper sewage systems is something that historically government projects. In a completely free market, those cesspools might have remained in some people's yards up until--well, today....
Message: Posted by: Bill Hilly (Oct 23, 2011 12:58PM)
80% of my neighborhood doesn't have flush toilets.


They're Amish.
Message: Posted by: Woland (Oct 23, 2011 02:08PM)
I grew up in a suburb of New York City where the water supply was from a privately owned utility. The sewers were owned by the county, I think.
Message: Posted by: acesover (Oct 23, 2011 10:33PM)
This is a sh**y thread.
Message: Posted by: vinsmagic (Oct 23, 2011 11:32PM)
The Romans had in door plumbing
Message: Posted by: critter (Oct 23, 2011 11:33PM)
And lead pipes, didn't they?
Message: Posted by: Woland (Oct 24, 2011 04:40AM)
That's why they call it plumbing . . .
Message: Posted by: rawdawg (Oct 24, 2011 05:30AM)
Squatting is the bomb! Nothing like proper alignment to put a pep in your step.
Message: Posted by: Destiny (Oct 24, 2011 08:18AM)
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On 2011-10-23 23:33, acesover wrote:
This is a sh**y thread.
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There's a worm for that.