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Topic: My cobra cut
Message: Posted by: cardboy18 (Sep 6, 2003 06:16PM)
I would like to let people see my cobra cut. It's not perfect, but I think it's pretty good.

Go to my site
http://www.angelfire.com/magic/acemagic18

Then click on videos and download the flourishes video.
Message: Posted by: zombieboy (Sep 6, 2003 08:30PM)
EXCELLENT!

I loved the pen spinning. The opener was cool as well.
Message: Posted by: phantomace (Sep 6, 2003 08:32PM)
Why don't you credit the moves? You credit Lee Asher, but not for your flourishes. Why not? Do you want people to think you invented the pyramid cut, and the cobra?
Message: Posted by: aby9plp (Sep 6, 2003 08:51PM)
Hmmm. Yeah, where are those credits to De'Vo and to Jerry?? The only 2 best moves on your site and they aren't even credited. I hate when people like this don't credit.
Message: Posted by: TrcikPony (Sep 6, 2003 09:03PM)
[quote]
On 2003-09-06 21:32, phantomace wrote:
Why don't you credit the moves? You credit Lee Asher, but not for your flourishes. Why not? Do you want people to think you invented the pyramid cut, and the cobra?

[/quote]
As the creator of the Pyramid Cut ( the original name was King Tutt-what a nut cut ) I gave cardboy18 permission to use this in his video. No credit was needed.

Jeff
Message: Posted by: phantomace (Sep 6, 2003 09:41PM)
LOL, very funny! lol

:rotf:

The original is from Jerry Cestkowski, published in the Encyclopedia of Playing Card Flourishes, pg. 498
And cardboy learned it from the Pyramid teaching video his friend sent to him.
Message: Posted by: cardboy18 (Sep 7, 2003 06:29AM)
Whoops sorry about the crediting. I'm going to do that right now.

The crediting is all done. Any other problems just let me know.
Message: Posted by: djvirtualreality (Sep 7, 2003 06:42AM)
I liked it very much, I wish I could do that cut. :rolleyes:
Message: Posted by: pyromagician (Sep 7, 2003 07:10AM)
Not bad, I am glad you credited the true people though.
Gary
Message: Posted by: TrcikPony (Sep 7, 2003 09:49AM)
[quote]
On 2003-09-06 22:41, phantomace wrote:
LOL, very funny!lol

:rotf:

The original is from Jerry Cestkowski, published in the Encyclopedia of Playing Card Flourishes, pg. 498
And cardboy learned it from the Pyramid teaching video his friend sent to him.
[/quote]

Jerry's a friend of mine and his Cobra Cut came from my King Tutt Cut.

Jeff
Message: Posted by: aby9plp (Sep 7, 2003 10:19AM)
LOL. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. And btw, it’s not Jerry’s Cobra Cut, its De'Vo's cobra cut. And I highly doubt that De’Vo or Jerry is a friend of yours. lol
Message: Posted by: Reis O'Brien (Sep 7, 2003 11:17AM)
Getting a little chilly in here.
:shrug:

Good work Cardboy18!
Message: Posted by: phantomace (Sep 7, 2003 11:22AM)
Much better cardboy18.
Message: Posted by: TrcikPony (Sep 7, 2003 06:20PM)
cardboy18 you did a great job!!

Jeff
Message: Posted by: Lonnie Dilan (Sep 9, 2003 04:44PM)
Trick Pony,

What are you talking about man? You came up with what? Please fill me in. You are even messing up names with cuts. If Jerry is a friend how come you don't even know which cut is his? How did a tabled cut like the Pyramid inspire the Cobra?

I know of another guy that does an in the hand Pyramid cut, I'm not sure of the name of the cut. The guy that does it is Joey Burton if I'm not mistaken. Your name is Jeff not Joey. I'm asking you legit questions and I hope you can answer them.

Cardboy,

I'm not going to lie here. You are sloppy as heck. I give you props for trying and sharing what you are working on though. I'm sure you are going to get way better over time, so keep up the good work. Tighten up on the pyramid. Didn't you look at the instructional video? Why are your hands coming away from the 2 packets on the table? It just looks bad. Tighten up the formation and you won't have to slide the packets at the end. Everything will just come together.

I still give you props for trying though.
Message: Posted by: flashflourish (Sep 9, 2003 05:27PM)
Alright guys, if you’re going to post a video of Cobra or something. I suggest you run it by Jerry or De'vo.
And if you don't run it by him, then definitely don't do the Cobra cut so slow that people can figure out an easier way to do it.
Message: Posted by: Bone (Sep 11, 2003 07:15AM)
As I said in MVD, I really like your PENSPINNING.

The BRS (or something else) and especially CARD spinnings were horrible.

For the Cobra cut, the catching part has to be improved. It's not like the way De'vo (You can say it's Jerry or whatever) did. lol

Peace,

Bone. :(

[quote]

Jerry's a friend of mine and his Cobra Cut came from my King Tutt Cut.
Jeff
[/quote]

King's Butt What?

Can't take it boy. lol.

Bone. :eek:
Message: Posted by: TrcikPony (Sep 19, 2003 11:43AM)
[quote]
On 2003-09-09 17:44, Lonnie Dilan wrote:
Trick Pony,

What are you talking about man? You came up with what? Please fill me in. You are even messing up names with cuts. If Jerry is a friend how come you don't even know which cut is his? How did a tabled cut like the Pyramid inspire the Cobra?

I know of another guy that does an in the hand Pyramid cut, I'm not sure of the name of the cut. The guy that does it is Joey Burton if I'm not mistaken. Your name is Jeff not Joey. I'm asking you legit questions and I hope you can answer them.
[/quote]

Jerry is a close friend. Joey Burton learned the King Tutt cut before learning the Cobra.

I'm hoping my friend Louis Falanga will publish the King Tutt Cut.

Jeff
Message: Posted by: Bone (Sep 19, 2003 12:09PM)
Yeah boy,

That's what I've been hoping too.
You are the second best. :o:

Mr B.
Message: Posted by: Cardjinx (Sep 19, 2003 03:21PM)
Funny that Joey Burton learned the Cobra cut. Guess he ran out of his own material. lol

Cardjinx :magicrabbit:
Message: Posted by: Jordini (Sep 19, 2003 03:32PM)
Cobra and pen spinning were pretty good, but bone's right about the card springing. Try to get it a little more uniform and a little slower. I can't even see it! It's like you shoot the whole deck from one hand to another at the same time. If that's what you're going for, then it worked. LOL. By the way, where'd you learn the Cobra? Is it in the encyclopedia of card flourishes, or did you get De'vo's DVD, and where did you get them from?
Message: Posted by: zombieboy (Sep 19, 2003 03:38PM)
Trickpony, what the heck are you talking about? Joey Burton's triangle cut is called Trifecta, not King Tutt.
Message: Posted by: Jordini (Sep 19, 2003 03:42PM)
Trifecta is an awesome trick! Every time I do it people love it. Everyone should check that out if you haven't already. I use it in my four ace production.
Message: Posted by: Bone (Sep 19, 2003 04:08PM)
[quote]
On 2003-09-19 16:32, Jordini wrote:
Cobra and pen spinning were pretty good, but bone's right about the card springing. Try to get it a little more uniform and a little slower.[/quote]

Yo, did I mention anything about Card Spring? The thing I was talking about was the pen spin and Cobra cut.

The Cobra is not in the book, it's in the video and the video has been sold out. However you can wait for the real DVD about cobras called "Cobra Cut" release in Dec.

Yo guys! One thing I have to repeat, I wonder why those people always get confused by De'vo and Jerry. The EOPCF book is by Jerry, but the Cobra cut is De'vo's and that's why it's not included in the book.

Peace,

Bone. :nerdy:
Message: Posted by: cardboy18 (Sep 19, 2003 05:25PM)
I have to say thanks for the comments. I am working on my Cobra and it got a lot better, I am also working on crossed cobras, along with Jerry's overhead cardspringer.
Message: Posted by: TrcikPony (Sep 19, 2003 05:53PM)
[quote]
On 2003-09-19 16:38, zombieboy wrote:
Trick pony, what the heck are you talking about? Joey Burton's triangle cut is called Trifecta, not King Tutt.
[/quote]

Hello, yes I know Joey's is the Trifecta. This was created after he saw the King Tutt Cut.

I'm hoping my friend Louis Falanga will publish the King Tutt Cut.

By the way, I'll be at Hollywood Magic next month and will be demonstrating this. FYI in case any of you live near by.

Jeff
Message: Posted by: Jordini (Sep 19, 2003 06:45PM)
Um, but isn't the King Tutt cut completely different from Trifecta? I don't see how they're even comparable.
Message: Posted by: TrcikPony (Sep 20, 2003 09:34AM)
The 2 cuts are completely different. It's like the 3 Fly evolution. Bob Kohler doesn't say he invented it. Without Chris Kenner, we wouldn't have Bob's version.

Jeff
Message: Posted by: Jordini (Sep 20, 2003 10:21AM)
I don't quite understand anything you said, but ok!! :dancing:
Message: Posted by: Zeiros (Sep 20, 2003 11:05AM)
I've just watched the videos and, being somewhat new to flourishing, was impressed all round. The one thing that really stood out though was the pen spinning! I don't know why, it just struck me as being very cool.

I also liked the pyramid cut a lot, having never seen it before.
Message: Posted by: Jordini (Sep 21, 2003 01:35AM)
Hey Zeiros, check out Superhandz.com for more pen spinning and the most excellent card moves around!
[quote]
Yo, did I mention anything about Card Spring? The thing I was talking about was the pen spin and Cobra cut.

The Cobra is not in the book, it's in the video and the video has been sold out. However you can wait for the real DVD about cobras called "Cobra Cut" release in Dec.

Yo guys! One thing I have to repeat, I wonder why those people always get confused by De'v0 and Jerry. The EOPCF book is by Jerry, but the Cobra cut is De'vo's and that's why it's not included in the book.

Peace,

Bone. :nerdy:
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Sorry about that bone!! Sometimes I read over words. I thought it said springing, instead of spinning. I hope this clears any confusion. (The fan looks great bone!) :wow:
Message: Posted by: Bone (Sep 21, 2003 06:24AM)
It's in CTG.

It's great, I love it alot.

Bone.
Message: Posted by: Reis O'Brien (Sep 21, 2003 10:54AM)
Man, a lot of edgy words getting thrown around in here.

Hey, the kids trying, and admitted it's not perfect. I think he's well on his way. It's better than I can do!
Keep it up, Cardboy! I'm interested in watching your progress.

:bikes:
Message: Posted by: cardboy18 (Sep 21, 2003 01:59PM)
Hey thanks firedice! To everyone else, that cobra was after two days of practice. I had started practicing like a couple months ago, but gave up because my thumb was too small. I got some smaller cards and after a day or two "reviewing", I thought it was good enough to put online.
Message: Posted by: Bone (Sep 21, 2003 03:35PM)
Yo cardboy,

Why don't you get the material ?
As I said, the catching part was not supposed to be done that way; it's very short motion, quick and smooth.

Bone.
Message: Posted by: cardboy18 (Sep 21, 2003 03:54PM)
I don't really get what your asking bone. Anyway I've been working on the catch, I actually prefer a longer one. (I've been working on it.) It makes it look more impressive.
Message: Posted by: Jordini (Sep 21, 2003 05:11PM)
I find that laypeople like when things are done at a pace where they can follow. LOL. If you effortlessly get the cobra up, and immediately snap it shut, for some reason, laypeople aren't as excited, as when it looks like it's very, very hard. I think this is because when stuff looks easy, people assume it to be. The harder it looks like you struggle, the more everyone will applaud your efforts. :pepper: (Look how hard HE'S working!!)
Message: Posted by: cardboy18 (Sep 21, 2003 05:40PM)
My thoughts exactly.
Message: Posted by: Bone (Sep 22, 2003 04:14AM)
[quote]
On 2003-09-21 16:54, cardboy18 wrote:
I don't really get what your asking bone. Anyway I've been working on the catch, I actually prefer a longer one. (I've been working on it.) It makes it look more impressive. [/quote]

My thoughts exactly. All right, I got it.
De'vo always says never saw anyone do the correct Cobra. Your cobra is right, just the catching part is further than the way it should be.

And maybe it looks more impressive. Just take your pick.

Bone. :yawn:
Message: Posted by: Jordini (Sep 22, 2003 12:13PM)
The first time I saw De'vo do the cobra (on the superhandz video) I was more impressed the second time when they showed it in slow motion. I didn't even realize that the top packet flips over, which is one of the more impressive aspects of the cut. Either way, it's still one of the coolest cuts around. (CTG everybody yay!!) :pepper:
Message: Posted by: Liam Jones (Oct 5, 2003 06:19AM)
It was good but try and speed it up so theres no knowledge of an easier method :nose:
Message: Posted by: Jordini (Oct 8, 2003 09:58AM)
I actually figured out three ways to do a cobra cut!
Message: Posted by: phantomace (Oct 8, 2003 10:00PM)
De'vo probably has 1000 ...LOL