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Topic: Parlour Card Act
Message: Posted by: JoaoJorge (Nov 26, 2011 08:41AM)
Hi I have a show coming in Few Months I have been doing magic for one year, here is my setlist

1 Nest of Boxes Tommy Wonder
2 Hands Off Patrick Redford
3 Just Chance as Presented by Max Maven in Nothing
4 Ambitious Card
5 Split Decision By Joshua Jay
6 Wild Card using a projector
7 Invisible Deck as presented by Jay Sankey
8 Tossed-out Deck original Version
9 Ring Watch Wallet By Tommy Wonder
10 Dream of Aces my Version

No Particular Order, I am looking for suggestions , on the duration of the act on the order of the act and on card effects in general, that might help
Thanks
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 26, 2011 04:23PM)
Have you thought about get sharky
or industrial revalation both of
these are strong magic and will
give you 3-5 minutes apiece if
played up right.
Message: Posted by: Yellowcustard (Nov 26, 2011 07:46PM)
My first thoughts is there is a lot of card magic. This may not be a problem but first up personally I cant handle to much card magic. Also can your audience see the cards from where they are sitting. Will they be able to easily see the signed card at the back is the same as before. But not to say you cant just do card tricks.

I would come on and say Hi and say I want to get to know you and start with tossed out deck. This is a slow and gentle start if you want to establish yourself as a magician more or start with a buzz produce the cards with a bit of flash paper.
I would close with something like a 6 card repeat or there is a routine called 5 card opener which you might want to think about. The effects are similar you produce a lot of cards. It easy to do visual and you can put a great story to it.

Do these trick in the following order and see how long they take. and is there a Varity going on
1) Tossed out deck (Chat get to know the audience)
2) Ring Watch Wallet By Tommy Wonder (just you on stage doing magical things)
3) (A card trick may be ACR)
4) Nest of boxes
5) 6 card repeat

Could you also have the nest of boxes set up on stage in view all of the time. And open them at end with a volunteer and stuff from the show appears in side. Like a signed card by a spec from your ACR. May be at the end of ring wallet watch someone pick the money or the watch and that ends up in the box.

Let us know how thing work out and what you end up with.
Message: Posted by: JoaoJorge (Nov 27, 2011 06:03AM)
[quote]
On 2011-11-26 20:46, Yellowcustard wrote:
My first thoughts is there is a lot of card magic. This may not be a problem but first up personally I cant handle to much card magic. Also can your audience see the cards from where they are sitting. Will they be able to easily see the signed card at the back is the same as before. But not to say you cant just do card tricks.

I would come on and say Hi and say I want to get to know you and start with tossed out deck. This is a slow and gentle start if you want to establish yourself as a magician more or start with a buzz produce the cards with a bit of flash paper.
I would close with something like a 6 card repeat or there is a routine called 5 card opener which you might want to think about. The effects are similar you produce a lot of cards. It easy to do visual and you can put a great story to it.

Do these trick in the following order and see how long they take. and is there a Varity going on
1) Tossed out deck (Chat get to know the audience)
2) Ring Watch Wallet By Tommy Wonder (just you on stage doing magical things)
3) (A card trick may be ACR)
4) Nest of boxes
5) 6 card repeat

Could you also have the nest of boxes set up on stage in view all of the time. And open them at end with a volunteer and stuff from the show appears in side. Like a signed card by a spec from your ACR. May be at the end of ring wallet watch someone pick the money or the watch and that ends up in the box.

Let us know how thing work out and what you end up with.
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Yeah I guess I could do those effects my only regret is not being able to dream of aces I've seen my routine get some great reactions, and I have a question what is the normal duration of an act?
Message: Posted by: JoaoJorge (Nov 27, 2011 06:31AM)
[quote]
On 2011-11-26 20:46, Yellowcustard wrote:
My first thoughts is there is a lot of card magic. This may not be a problem but first up personally I cant handle to much card magic. Also can your audience see the cards from where they are sitting. Will they be able to easily see the signed card at the back is the same as before. But not to say you cant just do card tricks.

I would come on and say Hi and say I want to get to know you and start with tossed out deck. This is a slow and gentle start if you want to establish yourself as a magician more or start with a buzz produce the cards with a bit of flash paper.
I would close with something like a 6 card repeat or there is a routine called 5 card opener which you might want to think about. The effects are similar you produce a lot of cards. It easy to do visual and you can put a great story to it.

Do these trick in the following order and see how long they take. and is there a Varity going on
1) Tossed out deck (Chat get to know the audience)
2) Ring Watch Wallet By Tommy Wonder (just you on stage doing magical things)
3) (A card trick may be ACR)
4) Nest of boxes
5) 6 card repeat

Could you also have the nest of boxes set up on stage in view all of the time. And open them at end with a volunteer and stuff from the show appears in side. Like a signed card by a spec from your ACR. May be at the end of ring wallet watch someone pick the money or the watch and that ends up in the box.

Let us know how thing work out and what you end up with.
[/quote]



Yeah I guess I could do those effects my only regret is not being able to dream of aces I've seen my routine get some great reactions, and I have a question what is the normal duration of an act?
Message: Posted by: WazMeister (Nov 28, 2011 03:39PM)
Bblimey that's a lot of content after one year. Been doing card magic for 3 years and only do 4 tricks well
Message: Posted by: solrak29 (Nov 28, 2011 05:52PM)
What type of show are you doing? What venue? What is your client expecting?
What's your performing background with and/or without magic?

When you say "set list"; what do you mean? Are these a set of effect/routines
that you do all the time when asked to perform? What do you currently do?

Just some questions that come to mind in order to help you out.
Message: Posted by: JoaoJorge (Nov 28, 2011 07:04PM)
[quote]
On 2011-11-28 18:52, solrak29 wrote:
What type of show are you doing? What venue? What is your client expecting?
What's your performing background with and/or without magic?

When you say "set list"; what do you mean? Are these a set of effect/routines
that you do all the time when asked to perform? What do you currently do?

Just some questions that come to mind in order to help you out.
[/quote]

Well its a camp , and at the last at the day at the bar they have a party and I close the night with the show , my guess is they are waiting for something
to tell their friends when they get home. My performing background is amateur singing in a couple of occasions and a couple of shows like the one I mentionied and
of course 1 year of close up performing.

Setlist are the effects I plan on doing during the show I have uptdaded since that post , no those effects I have trained doing them and have performed for a
selected few. Currently I do jay sankey's carbon paper, Gregory Wilson's Weighted aces , Dan and Dave's Subway, Stigmata, indecent, 44 by Daniel Garcia,
as well as some of the classics like triumph ACR and others

Joćo
Message: Posted by: solrak29 (Nov 29, 2011 07:19AM)
Ha!!! I just realized that your thread says [b]Parlor Card Act[/b].

So based on what you said, I see you plan on doing an all card act.
I see you have experience and have been [b]performing[/b] not just
learning magic for a year...no?

In that case, I like where YellowCustard is going with slight variation.

1. Tossed out Deck (opener/interaction), kinda get the audience to know you.
2. 6 card repeat, continued interaction/comedic depending on presentation
3. Borrow an item (money, ring, etc) make disappear/lost or destroyed.
4. Indecent (can be played big); and you can use as joke in losing their item above.
5. Now take their card and tear it up and promise to restore it, but no..it doesn't work.
6. Nested boxes, you throw ripped up card in air, "Well that didn't work...", and item lost and card is in nested box.

But let the audience member unnest and open.

I am still not 100% clear on your performance situation, but since you mentioned
parlor I am going with that. I operate in the rule of 3's and tried to break
up the card effects with other stuff. There is approximately 30min+ of material
listed above depending how you put it all together as an [b]act[/b].

The confusing part is that the list of effects you have are mostly "close up"
type of effect; not that they can not be played big. I am also not a fan of
an act of solely card effect, then again I think this is to be said of all
magicians.

Finally, I think the "dream of aces" can be saved for some other venue that is
more appropriate.

Here is a thread I saw might also help you in putting your act together:
[url]http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=443440&forum=41&2[/url]

Hope this helps...it's a great responsibility to entertain people with magic.

But most of all, enjoy and have fun...then your audience will...well hopefully. :)
Message: Posted by: JoaoJorge (Nov 29, 2011 09:03AM)
[quote]
On 2011-11-29 08:19, solrak29 wrote:
Ha!!! I just realized that your thread says [b]Parlor Card Act[/b].

So based on what you said, I see you plan on doing an all card act.
I see you have experience and have been [b]performing[/b] not just
learning magic for a year...no?

In that case, I like where YellowCustard is going with slight variation.

1. Tossed out Deck (opener/interaction), kinda get the audience to know you.
2. 6 card repeat, continued interaction/comedic depending on presentation
3. Borrow an item (money, ring, etc) make disappear/lost or destroyed.
4. Indecent (can be played big); and you can use as joke in losing their item above.
5. Now take their card and tear it up and promise to restore it, but no..it doesn't work.
6. Nested boxes, you throw ripped up card in air, "Well that didn't work...", and item lost and card is in nested box.

But let the audience member unnest and open.

I am still not 100% clear on your performance situation, but since you mentioned
parlor I am going with that. I operate in the rule of 3's and tried to break
up the card effects with other stuff. There is approximately 30min+ of material
listed above depending how you put it all together as an [b]act[/b].

The confusing part is that the list of effects you have are mostly "close up"
type of effect; not that they can not be played big. I am also not a fan of
an act of solely card effect, then again I think this is to be said of all
magicians.

Finally, I think the "dream of aces" can be saved for some other venue that is
more appropriate.

Here is a thread I saw might also help you in putting your act together:
[url]http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=443440&forum=41&2[/url]

Hope this helps...it's a great responsibility to entertain people with magic.

But most of all, enjoy and have fun...then your audience will...well hopefully. :)
[/quote]




Set List Parlour

1 Tossed Out Deck
2 Paperclipped
3 Nest of boxes by Tommy Wonder (I mention the Fact that I don't have a watch)
4 Invisible Deck
5 Just Chance (very funny and I could use a watch)
6 Six Card Repeat (More comedy )
7 Ring Watch And Wallet by Tommy Wonder
8 Indecent (It's simple,strong and as mentioned it plays big)

there it is please any critics or toughts are welcome .
What do you think on the Tommy Wonder Wild Card (Yes I am tommy Wonder Fan)

Joćo
Message: Posted by: JoaoJorge (Nov 29, 2011 09:22AM)
[quote]
On 2011-11-29 08:19, solrak29 wrote:
Ha!!! I just realized that your thread says [b]Parlor Card Act[/b].

So based on what you said, I see you plan on doing an all card act.
I see you have experience and have been [b]performing[/b] not just
learning magic for a year...no?

In that case, I like where YellowCustard is going with slight variation.

1. Tossed out Deck (opener/interaction), kinda get the audience to know you.
2. 6 card repeat, continued interaction/comedic depending on presentation
3. Borrow an item (money, ring, etc) make disappear/lost or destroyed.
4. Indecent (can be played big); and you can use as joke in losing their item above.
5. Now take their card and tear it up and promise to restore it, but no..it doesn't work.
6. Nested boxes, you throw ripped up card in air, "Well that didn't work...", and item lost and card is in nested box.

But let the audience member unnest and open.

I am still not 100% clear on your performance situation, but since you mentioned
parlor I am going with that. I operate in the rule of 3's and tried to break
up the card effects with other stuff. There is approximately 30min+ of material
listed above depending how you put it all together as an [b]act[/b].

The confusing part is that the list of effects you have are mostly "close up"
type of effect; not that they can not be played big. I am also not a fan of
an act of solely card effect, then again I think this is to be said of all
magicians.

Finally, I think the "dream of aces" can be saved for some other venue that is
more appropriate.

Here is a thread I saw might also help you in putting your act together:
[url]http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=443440&forum=41&2[/url]

Hope this helps...it's a great responsibility to entertain people with magic.

But most of all, enjoy and have fun...then your audience will...well hopefully. :)
[/quote]




Set List Parlour

1 Tossed Out Deck
2 Paperclipped
3 Nest of boxes by Tommy Wonder (I mention the Fact that I don't have a watch)
4 Invisible Deck
5 Just Chance (very funny and I could use a watch)
6 Six Card Repeat (More comedy )
7 Ring Watch And Wallet by Tommy Wonder
8 Indecent (It's simple,strong and as mentioned it plays big)

there it is please any critics or toughts are welcome .
What do you think on the Tommy Wonder Wild Card (Yes I am tommy Wonder Fan)

Joćo
Message: Posted by: solrak29 (Nov 29, 2011 09:38AM)
My last two comments on this subject...I've reached my quota for week :)

Less is more...

I think the nested boxes should be your closer and ring,watch, wallet
can be the lead in...somewhere in the middle of your act.

Let us know how this turns out and what you finalize on. Video
would be cool too...good luck..
Message: Posted by: Yellowcustard (Nov 29, 2011 05:34PM)
Set List Parlour

1 Tossed Out Deck
2 Paperclipped
3 Nest of boxes by Tommy Wonder (I mention the Fact that I don't have a watch)
4 Invisible Deck
5 Just Chance (very funny and I could use a watch)
6 Six Card Repeat (More comedy )
7 Ring Watch And Wallet by Tommy Wonder
8 Indecent (It's simple,strong and as mentioned it plays big)

OK the first step is done. Now we need to work on the show. I suggest you do all the tricks in this order. Don’t worry about if it just the move and no prestion just film them. Then ask these questions.

Is ther away I can link tricks together? 1+2 for example.
Is there a varied amount of stuff happing?
What is the rhythm like? (Also think about emotion as well)

You will aslo need to think about charter and stories and theme of the show.
Keep at it and keep asking questions and just keep trying stuff.
Please get a video and let us know how it gose.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Nov 29, 2011 07:29PM)
For parlor, use some Jumbo Cards. They are better visual.
Message: Posted by: Aus (Nov 30, 2011 05:17AM)
JoaoJorg here is another approach to routining you may choose to adopt: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=59948&forum=41

Since most of the effects are mainly cards you may want to look at some cards that allow for more visibility for a larger audience. There are three products that I would recommend for this which are the Phoenix Parlour deck which is sort of a mid-range between the poker and jumbo size decks.

http://www.card-shark.de/index.cfm?page=57&lang=en

The second and third would be Anglo deck and the Aviator Decks

http://www.murphysmagic.com/Product.aspx?id=44752

http://www.murphysmagic.com/Product.aspx?id=35964

Magically

Aus
Message: Posted by: JoaoJorge (Nov 30, 2011 11:20AM)
[quote]
On 2011-11-29 20:29, Dynamike wrote:
For parlor, use some Jumbo Cards. They are better visual.
[/quote]


I have talked to card shark I will be using his parlour size cards and they are bigger,except for paperclipped and ACR
I will Be posting a video of the show.