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Topic: ILogo - Craig Squires
Message: Posted by: coosticks (Feb 17, 2012 04:49AM)
Looking forward to reading reviews of this from the first buyers....
http://www.alakazam.co.uk/product-iLoGo-By-Craig-Squires.html

first question: can any iPhone be borrowed (3, 3s,4... etc)?
Message: Posted by: F.U.D.T.S.P (Feb 17, 2012 04:50AM)
No, it has to be 4/4s but it is great.
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 17, 2012 06:48AM)
Just ordered this so fingers crossed it is as good as Peter has made out :)
Message: Posted by: lucavolpe (Feb 17, 2012 06:54AM)
This will go straight to my new tv show in Italy...!
:)
Message: Posted by: bond19 (Feb 17, 2012 07:30AM)
Its a dead link in the first post (it links to the site but no info is displayed). Also I've just visited the Alakazam site and searched but no results. Can anyone help explain the effect in more detail.

Thanks
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 17, 2012 07:46AM)
Link works fine?

http://www.alakazam.co.uk/product-iLoGo-By-Craig-Squires.html
Message: Posted by: JamieD (Feb 17, 2012 07:52AM)
I think this is brilliant! Im an apple nut so as soon as I heard about it, I jumped at the chance to grab hold of it. My only concern is with the immanent release of the iPhone 5 this year, this effect won't last long. Lets just home they can fashion a new gimmick with the upcoming model! But a brilliant effect non the less!

Jamie Daws
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 17, 2012 08:13AM)
Doh! Never thought of that Jamie
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Feb 17, 2012 08:23AM)
"can you show my friend that thing you do when you moved my logo from my phone?"

"hmmm...maybe...what model is it?"

this leaves me cold, I don't understand the process behind it...
Message: Posted by: JamieD (Feb 17, 2012 08:26AM)
I wouldn't let it stop you thought Reinofsound. IAIN, I suppose, the thought process would be, to do it with your own phone. Or just do it with friend 1's phone again. I think its simple to get around.

Still love the effect and can't wait for it to arrive!

Jamie Daws
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Feb 17, 2012 08:28AM)
I would think it would only be strong on someone else's phone...if you provide the object, however natural - there is an extra level of "let me see!" afterwards...which you can control, but...

for this kind of magic, borrow the phone if possible, move it...remove it, add it back in place...done...

dunno if you CAN do it with this effect, just talking generally that's all..
Message: Posted by: jprace (Feb 17, 2012 08:41AM)
If this can be done with a borrowed phone, I'm in!
Can it be done with a white iPhone 4/4s?
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 17, 2012 08:43AM)
Looks great!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_KiJycodlY
Message: Posted by: Martin.Lester (Feb 17, 2012 10:50AM)
I got the email this morning and this along with his other Specials Both goes to a dead Links

While I order a lot from Alakazam , this is one aspect I find frustrating (even if the 2 Items are now out of stock)

A simple "This Item is no longer available" Message would be better than a Blank Page
Message: Posted by: matt.magicman (Feb 17, 2012 11:02AM)
I think there were only 25 for sale
I read in a previous email that once they were sold they would be taken off the site
Message: Posted by: Martin.Lester (Feb 17, 2012 11:08AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-17 12:02, matt.magicman wrote:
I think there were only 25 for sale
I read in a previous email that once they were sold they would be taken off the site
[/quote]

The Problem is Going to a Blank Page you wonder if they are Sold out or was a mistake in the news letter

I assume they are sold out as even if you do a Search on the alakazam site for this or Knock Em Dead 2

you get the "helpfull" No result found. Message
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 17, 2012 11:17AM)
Ilogo sold out first then knock em dead 2 as the later was stil available while ilogo was not
Message: Posted by: 1908 (Feb 17, 2012 11:24AM)
I have one in my hands right now, I believe it is ok just for tv magic. As for the gimmick, you are very limited but if you like it so much why not take the thoughts and insides from the dvd and then make your own gimmick for any mobile. I do not mean that they explain you how to create a gimmick, I mean to buy the effect for the idea and the new "invention" and take it to the next step.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Feb 17, 2012 11:25AM)
Bearing in mind that Peter and the team will be in Blackpool this weekend, so website maintenance will be non existent. I bet this will be available to purchase at Blackpool, I would imagine.
Message: Posted by: 1908 (Feb 17, 2012 11:34AM)
Basically is like changing a playing card to a blank but with the iphone idea! ;)
Message: Posted by: montanna40 (Feb 17, 2012 12:15PM)
I received email to get ilogo but was too late , but got knock em dead 2 as I am a fan of the original

but will look forward to it when its available again as looks interesting
Message: Posted by: coosticks (Feb 17, 2012 01:24PM)
I think Peter said the official release is may.

I wonder what the set up/reset is like.

I guess this ain't as impromptu as we'd all like, but OI may be wrong

P
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Feb 17, 2012 02:46PM)
Looks great and I have ordered it.

I do feel you might be left quite dirty at the end though.
Well see!
Message: Posted by: montanna40 (Feb 17, 2012 03:26PM)
Just been looking at demo again and was wondering if this would work with the white iphone 4 and 4s, as it showed being done on a black one
as a lot of people have white iphones as well
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Feb 17, 2012 03:50PM)
I wouldnt have thought it can be done with a white phone
Message: Posted by: Christopher Congreave (Feb 17, 2012 03:56PM)
It could if you did a colour change too!
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Feb 17, 2012 04:11PM)
:) :) :)
Message: Posted by: Showmethatagain (Feb 17, 2012 05:01PM)
So do you only get one gimmick then? :(
Message: Posted by: bond19 (Feb 17, 2012 06:13PM)
Just saw this demoed at Blackpool. It does look very nice. If the back of the iphone being used for the effect is not in tip top condition then it will not work (ie my iPhone 4 is cracked across the back).

This is not a limitation of the gimmick, but I thought I would point this put as a phone is good order is needed.

Also it is probably best used as a quick WTF moment and then you restore the logo back to its original place, as you cannot hand the phone out once you have moved the logo. You will need to move it back to its origina position and then hand the phone back. Woud I buy one, yes definitely, only I'm spending my pennies elsewhere this weekend. It is on my wanted list however.

Also I only saw this demoed with a black iPhone. I will visit the Alakazam stall tomorrow and check if they are selling a white version and report back.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Feb 17, 2012 07:28PM)
There's also the issue of cases. The vast majority of owners have cases that also cover the back. Not forgetting screen protectors.
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Feb 18, 2012 01:41AM)
You cam always take the case off Pegasus
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Feb 18, 2012 01:54AM)
I don't want ANYONE taking the case off my iPhone!!
Message: Posted by: Nechto (Feb 18, 2012 03:37AM)
Did anyone else receive iLogo from Alakazam? I ordered as it said 'out now' on the mail shot, only to be told in my email it will ship next week... Jar wondering if everyone who ordered got the same email or if some people got an email update saying theirs had shipped?

I really like the look of this and can't wait to give it a trial run...

Best,

Ben
Message: Posted by: davidleiper (Feb 18, 2012 03:39AM)
I ordered it as well and got the same email. Likely the items won't be posted until the crew return from Blackpool. Probably be posted on Monday.
Message: Posted by: Nechto (Feb 18, 2012 05:33AM)
That's cool,

As long as they don't sell my copy!!!!!

Ben
Message: Posted by: 1908 (Feb 18, 2012 06:06AM)
If anyone wants one, I have one for sale, brand new, just opened it to see the gimmick, I just purchased it in Blackpool.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Feb 18, 2012 06:07AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-18 02:41, David Klass wrote:
You cam always take the case off Pegasus
[/quote]
I don't think so. Too much faffing about. The demo uses a bare bones iPhone, which is a rarity in itself. Can it be performed with a bumber style case, for instance.
Message: Posted by: Paul S Wingham (Feb 18, 2012 09:04AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-18 07:06, 1908 wrote:
If anyone wants one, I have one for sale, brand new, just opened it to see the gimmick, I just purchased it in Blackpool.
[/quote]

Wow, it's that good ;) I reckon it'd look amazing on a show real. Personally I think it has to be done quickly as you cannot examine phone dirty but before you do it quickly you have to remove the case.....no hang on, it's a white iPhone, I wanted a black one. Trick looks awesome but I imagine it's one for the right occasion rather than a "worker"

Still may get one if only do show reel....and probably to be proven wrong as is oftener case.
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Feb 18, 2012 09:18AM)
I got the same email Ben :(
Message: Posted by: bond19 (Feb 18, 2012 05:07PM)
It is a quicky type effect for sure, and black iPhones only. As for working with bumpers I don't think that would work. It is really nice eye candy and if you like what you see on the demo then that is what it looks like in performance.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Feb 18, 2012 05:15PM)
As I suspected. Hunting all night for a bare bones iPhone? No thanks.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Feb 18, 2012 05:16PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-18 18:15, pegasus wrote:
As I suspected. Hunting all night for a bare bones iPhone? No thanks.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: TheTableTopTrixta (Feb 18, 2012 08:27PM)
It looked great up close, I picked it up today, £20 well worth it, be great to have in your pocket for the right time, eye candy for sure!
Message: Posted by: carlwag (Feb 18, 2012 08:41PM)
How come this was £24.99 from alakazam on there 25 limited offer or am I the only one who paid that price ?

Carl
Message: Posted by: timski523 (Feb 19, 2012 02:18AM)
Nope me too, and postage... Grr
Message: Posted by: TheTableTopTrixta (Feb 19, 2012 03:01AM)
I'm guessing a Blackpool convention deal :)
Message: Posted by: Martin.Lester (Feb 19, 2012 06:10AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-18 21:41, carlwag wrote:
How come this was £24.99 from alakazam on there 25 limited offer or am I the only one who paid that price ?

Carl
[/quote]

Maybe the Limited Edition deal was not so much
Of a deal after all

When I tried it went to a blank page however looking
At the post it appears you can only do this for the IPhone 4s

And with a Phone without and Case or Cover ?

Looking at the people in my local Pub I could not
Find anyone who did not have an IPhone without
A case or Bumper so if this is correct , this effect
Does appear to have very limited use in the UK
not sure in USA ?
Message: Posted by: carlwag (Feb 19, 2012 06:46AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-19 07:10, Martin.Lester wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-02-18 21:41, carlwag wrote:
How come this was £24.99 from alakazam on there 25 limited offer or am I the only one who paid that price ?

Carl
[/quote]

Maybe the Limited Edition deal was not so much
Of a deal after all

When I tried it went to a blank page however looking
At the post it appears you can only do this for the IPhone 4s

And with a Phone without and Case or Cover ?

Looking at the people in my local Pub I could not
Find anyone who did not have an IPhone without
A case or Bumper so if this is correct , this effect
Does appear to have very limited use in the UK
not sure in USA ?
[/quote]

Another impulse buy martin !
Message: Posted by: Martin.Lester (Feb 19, 2012 07:21AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-19 07:46, carlwag wrote

Another impulse buy martin !
[/quote]

Not sure if I was going to buy only clicked on
Link to find out more info

But as it went to a blank page with no demo
Or even " this item is no longer available"

As someone who is a Blackpool is already selling
His looks like Peter's Blank page has saved me
A lot of £££
Message: Posted by: carlwag (Feb 19, 2012 07:25AM)
Im will see when it arrives ,not all tricks are for everyone .


Carl.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Feb 19, 2012 12:22PM)
The effect looks amazing. Would love to have it but there are far too many constraints. EXCUSE ME can you all hear me? Does anyone in this venue have a black iPhone 4 without any case on it? No? Oh well sorry to bother you all.
Message: Posted by: Christopher Congreave (Feb 19, 2012 01:14PM)
To be fair all magic doesn't have to be performed at a gig, there is a place for casual performance, in fact probably 95% of people who do magic do it casually, if you have this on you it could be perfect for when you see an iPhone 4, plus as already mentioned, ou can do it to your own phone and hand that out for examination.
Message: Posted by: Martin.Lester (Feb 19, 2012 01:48PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-19 14:14, Christopher Congreave wrote:
To be fair all magic doesn't have to be performed at a gig, there is a place for casual performance, in fact probably 95% of people who do magic do it casually,
[/quote]

That might be true , however the fact remains hardly anyone
Has an IPhone without a case casually or other wise

Regards

Martin

Sent from my IPhone (compete with case)
Message: Posted by: Christopher Congreave (Feb 19, 2012 01:56PM)
I have, and read the rest of my post, you can use your own phone.

To be fair I haven't seen this, and I probably won't buy it, but I think my comments still stand are valid. :)
Message: Posted by: carlwag (Feb 19, 2012 01:56PM)
I do and mi wife
Message: Posted by: Martin.Lester (Feb 19, 2012 01:59PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-19 14:56, carlwag wrote:
I do and mi wife
[/quote]

Hope you've got insurance dropping that on the
Floor could prove costly !
Message: Posted by: king2262 (Feb 19, 2012 02:02PM)
Looking forward to a review on this .
Message: Posted by: carlwag (Feb 19, 2012 02:02PM)
Yes full insurance don't worry yourself martin
Message: Posted by: Martin.Lester (Feb 19, 2012 02:36PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-19 15:02, carlwag wrote:
Yes full insurance don't worry yourself martin
[/quote]

At least you have one person to show this effect to !!!

Bit of luck your wife does not have a case
and a Black IPhone !!!
Message: Posted by: carlwag (Feb 19, 2012 03:50PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-19 15:36, Martin.Lester wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-02-19 15:02, carlwag wrote:
Yes full insurance don't worry yourself martin
[/quote]

At least you have one person to show this effect to !!!

Bit of luck your wife does not have a case
and a Black IPhone !!!



[/quote]

True martin I do agree that it could be limited, one idea if they have a case is to say " can you tell the difference between fake iphones and real ones"
Take the phone out the case and turn it over and say "the real iphones have the apple logo here " do the move and say" the fakes logo is here, I don't want to leave you with a fake so I better move it back".

Or some other story or patter .

Carl
Message: Posted by: JamieD (Feb 19, 2012 05:18PM)
To balance the argument, a fair few people from the South East of London to London Central have iPhones. It's actually quite hard to pass a groups of people of which at least one of them don't have an iPhone. Yes, the majority of them have a case but to have it taken of under the pre-tense of showing them 'what your cool new app does to the logo on their phone' is about as much hassle as asking someone to remove their ring which is tight fitted to their finger or asking for a coin from their wallet/purse. If you look for restraints, they will take over.

The effect still looks rocking and I can't wait to try it out!

Jamie Daws
Message: Posted by: carlwag (Feb 19, 2012 05:23PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-19 18:18, JamieD wrote:
To balance the argument, a fair few people from the South East of London to London Central have iPhones. It's actually quite hard to pass a groups of people of which at least one of them don't have an iPhone. Yes, the majority of them have a case but to have it taken of under the pre-tense of showing them 'what your cool new app does to the logo on their phone' is about as much hassle as asking someone to remove their ring which is tight fitted to their finger or asking for a coin from their wallet/purse. If you look for restraints, they will take over.

The effect still looks rocking and I can't wait to try it out!

Jamie Daws
[/quote]


Totally agree Jamie
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Feb 20, 2012 11:30AM)
Actually the thought of using your own iPhone is a good idea, just get ready to catch it when you hand it out for inspection.
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 20, 2012 11:58AM)
Great idea Janie about how to spot fake iPhones
Hope this arrives tomorrow
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 20, 2012 11:59AM)
Jamie*
Message: Posted by: carlwag (Feb 20, 2012 12:08PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-20 12:58, reignofsound wrote:
Great idea Janie about how to spot fake iPhones
Hope this arrives tomorrow
[/quote]

That could have ment to say carl !
Message: Posted by: gdw (Feb 20, 2012 12:30PM)
Looks like a good idea.
U think worrying about cases is a bit of looking for a problem. As mentioned, asking someone to remove the case is no hassle. Bumpers on the other hand, as they done cover the back, you would not be as naturally motivated to have them removed. Solution, don't do it from people with bumpers. I see more people with cases than just bumpers, do it's virtually a non issue, IMHO.
Message: Posted by: king2262 (Feb 20, 2012 01:05PM)
I spoke to Alakazam today , I was told they will be sent tues/weds :(
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Feb 20, 2012 01:24PM)
Hi Guys,

This sold out at Blackpool.

Anyone who thinks this is YouTube only magic, think again. Me and the Alakazam Team demoed iLogo not stop over the weekend and at close quarters, With borrowed iPhones.

The clean up is lovely, the effect is visual & the premise is up to date and different. iLogo is a perfect effect in my eyes. We had so many magicians coming up with lovely presentation ideas over the weekend.

I totally agree it's not everyone's cup of tea but if you like the idea of the effect, you WILL NOT be disappointed with the product.

At Alakazam we do not market pipe-dreams we release effects that work in the real world.

Thank you to everyone that picked one up. I truley hope you enjoy it.

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 20, 2012 02:02PM)
My mistake should say Carl
Anyway I look forward to receiving mine :)
Message: Posted by: carlwag (Feb 20, 2012 02:03PM)
Me too buddy
Message: Posted by: mike donoghue (Feb 21, 2012 04:14AM)
Hi Peter. I couldn't get to Blackpool and in fact haven't been for 5 years, but I ordered this from Andy on Friday along with 'knock em Dead 2'as he said that I was one of the lucky ones to be able to get one of the 25 you had. My god that was a mouthful of a sentence. I watched the trailer for' IPhone' and think I know how it works (am hoping it arrives today,)but to me the effect is organic, impossible, visual and very simple to follow for a lay audience, and that is what cuts it in the real world.
Like you say Peter you don't release pipedreams.
Hope you did well at Blackpool.

Best Wishes,

Mike Donoghue
Message: Posted by: mike donoghue (Feb 21, 2012 04:17AM)
Sorry about that but it would help if I got the name correct of the product I was reviewing I meant 'ILogo' lol

Best Wishes,

Mike Donoghue
Message: Posted by: sketchomagic (Feb 21, 2012 04:31AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-20 14:24, Peter Nardi wrote:
Hi Guys,

This sold out at Blackpool.

Anyone who thinks this is YouTube only magic, think again. Me and the Alakazam Team demoed iLogo not stop over the weekend and at close quarters, With borrowed iPhones.

The clean up is lovely, the effect is visual & the premise is up to date and different. iLogo is a perfect effect in my eyes. We had so many magicians coming up with lovely presentation ideas over the weekend.

I totally agree it's not everyone's cup of tea but if you like the idea of the effect, you WILL NOT be disappointed with the product.

At Alakazam we do not market pipe-dreams we release effects that work in the real world.

Thank you to everyone that picked one up. I truley hope you enjoy it.

Regards

Peter
[/quote]


So where can I purchase this at Mr. Nardi?
Message: Posted by: Martin.Lester (Feb 21, 2012 04:31AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-21 05:17, mike donoghue wrote:
Sorry about that but it would help if I got the name correct of the product I was reviewing I meant 'ILogo' lol

Best Wishes,

Mike Donoghue
[/quote]

Looking forward to your Review so far not one person from Blackpool has anything to say about this,
I am assuming it was as the dealers say " A Sell out at Blackpool"

Does seem strange that you demo a new effect at Blackpool, which assuming it is as good as the demo, creates a Buzz
But donít officially release it for another 2 months, by then the talk has died down?

(But hey what do I know I am not a Magic Dealer)

but if I was I sure would have made sure I had enough to cover Blackpool and at least 2-3 weeks after!
Message: Posted by: sketchomagic (Feb 21, 2012 04:32AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-21 05:31, Martin.Lester wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-02-21 05:17, mike donoghue wrote:
Sorry about that but it would help if I got the name correct of the product I was reviewing I meant 'ILogo' lol

Best Wishes,

Mike Donoghue
[/quote]

Looking forward to your Review so far not one person from Blackpool has anything to say about this,
I am assuming it was as the dealers say " A Sell out at Blackpool"

Does seem strange that you demo a new effect at Blackpool, which assuming it is as good as the demo, creates a Buzz
But donít officially release it for another 2 months, by then the talk has died down?

(But hey what do I know I am not a Magic Dealer)

but if I was I sure would have made sure I had enough to cover Blackpool and at least 2-3 weeks after!
[/quote]

I concur 1000%
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Feb 21, 2012 05:24AM)
Hi Guys

Let me explain about iLogo. We did state that it was a limited number pre-release copy. Why was it a limited number? Because, we have yet to film the DVD.
Craig approached me with iLogo a few weeks ago and I loved it. So much so that I knew we needed it to be seen at Blackpool. We filmed a small quick time movie and had some of the gimmicks manufactured. We are expecting to film the full DVD in 2-3 weeks time. The estimated full release of iLogo will be 6-8 weeks from now.

I sure you will start seeing comments from people who own this appear here soon. Its 100% workable (as with all Alakazam products) and in my mind the ideal piece of weird to perform on someone.

Anyway thatís the answer. Itís not some sort of strange marketing ploy.

Best Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: sketchomagic (Feb 21, 2012 05:29AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-21 06:24, Peter Nardi wrote:
Hi Guys

Let me explain about iLogo. We did state that it was a limited number pre-release copy. Why was it a limited number? Because, we have yet to film the DVD.
Craig approached me with iLogo a few weeks ago and I loved it. So much so that I knew we needed it to be seen at Blackpool. We filmed a small quick time movie and had some of the gimmicks manufactured. We are expecting to film the full DVD in 2-3 weeks time. The estimated full release of iLogo will be 6-8 weeks from now.

I sure you will start seeing comments from people who own this appear here soon. Its 100% workable (as with all Alakazam products) and in my mind the ideal piece of weird to perform on someone.

Anyway thatís the answer. Itís not some sort of strange marketing ploy.

Best Regards

Peter
[/quote]


Thank you Mr. Nardi. Guess I'll be standing by when the first batch is released.
Message: Posted by: Daren (Feb 21, 2012 05:40AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-21 06:24, Peter Nardi wrote:
Hi Guys

Let me explain about iLogo. We did state that it was a limited number pre-release copy. Why was it a limited number? Because, we have yet to film the DVD.
Craig approached me with iLogo a few weeks ago and I loved it. So much so that I knew we needed it to be seen at Blackpool. We filmed a small quick time movie and had some of the gimmicks manufactured. We are expecting to film the full DVD in 2-3 weeks time. The estimated full release of iLogo will be 6-8 weeks from now.

I sure you will start seeing comments from people who own this appear here soon. Its 100% workable (as with all Alakazam products) and in my mind the ideal piece of weird to perform on someone.

Anyway thatís the answer. Itís not some sort of strange marketing ploy.

Best Regards

Peter
[/quote]

Hi Peter

For those that have ordered from the stock you had at the shop , will we also receive the dvd once ready??

cheers
Daren
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Feb 21, 2012 05:42AM)
Yes Darren, We are hoping to have it as a download for those who purchased the pre-release copy.

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: Jpovey (Feb 21, 2012 05:47AM)
Hi Peter,

When can the people who pre-ordered them online expect to receive their copies?
Thanks

JP
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Feb 21, 2012 05:59AM)
Thay are all being sent out today.

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: Jpovey (Feb 21, 2012 06:05AM)
Brilliant - I look forward to recieving it! Thankyou Peter :)
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Feb 21, 2012 07:24AM)
You are going to love it!

Peter
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 21, 2012 02:31PM)
Really looking forward to receiving mine :)
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Feb 21, 2012 02:52PM)
All orders were dispatched today.

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: Keith Atkinson (Feb 21, 2012 03:02PM)
Hi Peter, I picked one up from Blackpool,lucky me. Wondered about the DVD, but that question is now answered. Great product, but hoew can I get the newly released DVD, as I paid cash at your stall, and I presume you wont have any record of that sale?
Keith.
Message: Posted by: Jamie Ferguson (Feb 21, 2012 03:10PM)
Hopefully there'll be a password that only pre-release buyers will find on their dvd.
Message: Posted by: lucavolpe (Feb 21, 2012 03:11PM)
HI Keith, I paid in advance too, but with Peter you can be sure that all the orders are out now...I can't wait, this for my TV show will be fantastic....!
:)
Message: Posted by: Keith Atkinson (Feb 21, 2012 03:15PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-21 16:10, Jamie Ferguson wrote:
Hopefully there'll be a password that only pre-release buyers will find on their dvd.
[/quote]

Good point, not watched it fully, but there must be a way. Never been let down by them yet.
Keith.
Message: Posted by: magik1 (Feb 21, 2012 04:02PM)
Great idea but not new as its exactly the same gimmick/method as Credit Card Fraud by Brad Manuel.

Magik1
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Feb 21, 2012 10:56PM)
It's not the same gimmick as Credit Card Fraud

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: sketchomagic (Feb 22, 2012 12:30AM)
Twiddling my thumbs waiting for iLogo to be released....do bee do.
Message: Posted by: AaronishMagic (Feb 22, 2012 12:55AM)
Saw this in Blackpool. NICE! Very commercial!
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 22, 2012 04:43AM)
Mine has just arrived :)
Will let you know how I get on in a bit..
Message: Posted by: sketchomagic (Feb 22, 2012 05:21AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-22 05:43, reignofsound wrote:
Mine has just arrived :)
Will let you know how I get on in a bit..
[/quote]


Please do, a full review is well needed on this effect =]
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 22, 2012 05:29AM)
Well must say I am very impressed with the quality of the gimmick!
This one will take a bit of practice to get down flawlessly but what doesn't ?

Only thing though I never received the card in my package?
Message: Posted by: sketchomagic (Feb 22, 2012 05:44AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-22 06:29, reignofsound wrote:
Well must say I am very impressed with the quality of the gimmick!
This one will take a bit of practice to get down flawlessly but what doesn't ?

Only thing though I never received the card in my package?
[/quote]


Card?
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 22, 2012 05:58AM)
Yes a double back bike for using the effect as a card trick.

Nothing major though can make one myself.
Message: Posted by: sketchomagic (Feb 22, 2012 05:59AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-22 06:58, reignofsound wrote:
Yes a double back bike for using the effect as a card trick.

Nothing major though can make one myself.
[/quote]


Any other Youtube vids floating around out there on this effect?
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 22, 2012 06:01AM)
None that I can see but this is defo worth it!
Very visual magic

I prefer the vanish rather the moving of logo
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 22, 2012 06:03AM)
And just to mention they do mention what to do if the iPhone has a cover on it as well.
Message: Posted by: sketchomagic (Feb 22, 2012 06:04AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-22 07:01, reignofsound wrote:
None that I can see but this is defo worth it!
Very visual magic

I prefer the vanish rather the moving of logo
[/quote]


Excellent! I'm pumped. Gotta keep playing the waiting game.
Message: Posted by: TheGreatRaymondo (Feb 22, 2012 06:27AM)
Maybe I'm in a minority of 1... But I can't really see all of the hype on this effect:
It can only be used on an iphone
It can only be used on a black iphone
It can only be used on an iphone 4 series
The phone cannot be handed out for inspection after the effect has been performed.
Please let me know what I am missing. I'm confused as to why this is just so good.
Message: Posted by: sketchomagic (Feb 22, 2012 06:32AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-22 07:27, TheGreatRaymondo wrote:
Maybe I'm in a minority of 1... But I can't really see all of the hype on this effect:
It can only be used on an iphone
It can only be used on a black iphone
It can only be used on an iphone 4 series
The phone cannot be handed out for inspection after the effect has been performed.
Please let me know what I am missing. I'm confused as to why this is just so good.
[/quote]

It's commercial, iPhone's are what everyone has 'right now', anything as commercial as iPhone's is always going to take top pick. Next year it will be something else on a newer model of what ever phone is top dog. You answered your own question when you listed all those awesome bullet points! =]
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Feb 22, 2012 06:36AM)
Great Raymondo - yes, this effect requires all those things you mention.
And no you won't be able to perform it to everyone or every group you work to.

But.....if you do have a spectator that meets all of these requirements and you just so happen to have this ready to go, you have an absolute miracle in your hands :)

Isn't that what we all strive for?
Message: Posted by: sketchomagic (Feb 22, 2012 06:50AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-22 07:36, David Klass wrote:
Great Raymondo - yes, this effect requires all those things you mention.
And no you won't be able to perform it to everyone or every group you work to.

But.....if you do have a spectator that meets all of these requirements and you just so happen to have this ready to go, you have an absolute miracle in your hands :)

Isn't that what we all strive for?
[/quote]
Concuromatic, nuff said.
Message: Posted by: Martin.Lester (Feb 22, 2012 07:27AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-22 07:01, reignofsound wrote:
None that I can see but this is defo worth it!
Very visual magic

I prefer the vanish rather the moving of logo
[/quote]

Hi Can you confirm one Point

Can this only Be Performed with an Iphone 4 , That Does Not have a Cover / Bumper

Thanks

Martin
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 22, 2012 07:37AM)
Martin,

Has to be an iPhone 4 or 4s and yes you need to remove the cover/ bumper but this is covered on the dvd

Cheers
Michael
Message: Posted by: Riffle (Feb 22, 2012 07:54AM)
Does anybody elses gimmick 'not line up' correctly?

Rather disappointed that mine doesn't!
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 22, 2012 08:03AM)
Riffle,
MIne is not 100% but it does the job tbh
Message: Posted by: carlwag (Feb 22, 2012 08:07AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-22 06:58, reignofsound wrote:
Yes a double back bike for using the effect as a card trick.

Nothing major though can make one myself.
[/quote]

I didn't get that either but as the disk is to be played on the computer and my disk drive is broken I don't know if I should get it or not.

Carl.
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 22, 2012 08:08AM)
Yeah you should have Carl
I am sure if you email the shop with proof of purchase they may provide you with a link to the instructions?
Message: Posted by: carlwag (Feb 22, 2012 08:13AM)
Cheers buddy will do.
Message: Posted by: kinesis (Feb 22, 2012 10:15AM)
I'm just rushing home as I have been informed mine is waiting for me!!!

A review will follow soon gentlemen.

Derek
Message: Posted by: king2262 (Feb 22, 2012 10:17AM)
Mine arrived very impressed !
My gimmicks not 100% but to be honest it won't be noticed .
I never recieved a double back but not to worry .
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Feb 22, 2012 03:51PM)
Hi Guys,

Thanks for the comments. I will keep you updated on the official release.

Regards


Peter
Message: Posted by: Riffle (Feb 23, 2012 01:20AM)
But my gimmick is about 25% mis-aligned, is that worse than anybody elses? To me it makes the gimmick painfully obvious.

And I didn't receive a double back either.
Message: Posted by: sketchomagic (Feb 23, 2012 01:26AM)
I'm itching for a new YouTube video of someone performing this, stop holding out people! =]
Message: Posted by: davidleiper (Feb 23, 2012 01:59AM)
Received this yesterday and have to say I'm really pleased with it. The quality of the gimmick is very nice (no problems with "lining up" as mentioned above, and the video teaching is adequate.

I'm not particularly taken by the card effect taught on the video,(just personal taste really) but the vanish and reappearance of the apple logo is extememly visual and looks great.

The handling will take a bit of practice to get 100% but it's by no means difficult.

The comments about only being able to use iphone 4 and issues with covers/ bumpers are valid to a certain degree - but hey- you're buying an effect to use with an iphone 4 - what do you expect. Also the issue of covers/ bumpers is dealt with on the video.

All in all, I will be using this, and am delighted with the effect.
Message: Posted by: sketchomagic (Feb 23, 2012 02:17AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-23 02:59, davidleiper wrote:
Received this yesterday and have to say I'm really pleased with it. The quality of the gimmick is very nice (no problems with "lining up" as mentioned above, and the video teaching is adequate.

I'm not particularly taken by the card effect taught on the video,(just personal taste really) but the vanish and reappearance of the apple logo is extememly visual and looks great.

The handling will take a bit of practice to get 100% but it's by no means difficult.

The comments about only being able to use iphone 4 and issues with covers/ bumpers are valid to a certain degree - but hey- you're buying an effect to use with an iphone 4 - what do you expect. Also the issue of covers/ bumpers is dealt with on the video.

All in all, I will be using this, and am delighted with the effect.
[/quote]


Appreciate that swift solid review! Now if only it were 2 weeks from now already so I can order mine!
Message: Posted by: Riffle (Feb 23, 2012 03:33AM)
[quote]
Appreciate that swift solid review! Now if only it were 2 weeks from now already so I can order mine!
[/quote]

I'll sell you mine
Message: Posted by: sketchomagic (Feb 23, 2012 03:40AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-23 04:33, Riffle wrote:
[quote]
Appreciate that swift solid review! Now if only it were 2 weeks from now already so I can order mine!
[/quote]

I'll sell you mine
[/quote]


Really? Whats wrong with it if I may ask?
Message: Posted by: Riffle (Feb 23, 2012 03:52AM)
Mainly another impulse purchase in all honesty. Shame for it to be sat on my desk if someone really wants one!

Im not that happy with my gimmick, mine may be an exception though.
Message: Posted by: sketchomagic (Feb 23, 2012 03:53AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-23 04:52, Riffle wrote:
Mainly another impulse purchase in all honesty. Shame for it to be sat on my desk if someone really wants one!

Im not that happy with my gimmick, mine may be an exception though.
[/quote]



PM me your asking price please?
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Feb 23, 2012 04:44AM)
Hi Guys,

The Gimmicks should be perfect. If you have taken the outer coating and the second invisible coating off as stated on the disc, they should look great. If anyone feels their gimmick is wrong please let me know. Every one of the gimmicks I personally prepped was perfect in every way.

Kind regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Feb 23, 2012 04:52AM)
Yes, my gimmick is perfect.

As it says on the dvd it is easy to miss the second invisible coating. When removed it is spot on.

Peter, I sent you an email re. my handling on this ;)
Message: Posted by: JamieD (Feb 23, 2012 05:13AM)
I've been playing with it for the past couple of days now and as predicted, I think its awesome! The gimmick quality is outstanding. It is slightly misaligned but it doesn't notice. What they don't know won't hurt em! Theres endless possibilities with this and I've been coming up with all sorts of gags and effects with it that I've offered to be included with the final product. I think it truly is a fun, bang up to date effect that most everyone who is willing to give it a go, will love!

Jamie Daws
Message: Posted by: sketchomagic (Feb 23, 2012 05:51AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-23 06:13, JamieD wrote:
I've been playing with it for the past couple of days now and as predicted, I think its awesome! The gimmick quality is outstanding. It is slightly misaligned but it doesn't notice. What they don't know won't hurt em! Theres endless possibilities with this and I've been coming up with all sorts of gags and effects with it that I've offered to be included with the final product. I think it truly is a fun, bang up to date effect that most everyone who is willing to give it a go, will love!

Jamie Daws
[/quote]

When is the OFFICIAL release happening? I'm like the kid camped out on the sidewalk, first in line. =]
Message: Posted by: Riffle (Feb 23, 2012 09:05AM)
Anybody that wants mine can have it for what I paid for it - unused.
Message: Posted by: JD_UK (Feb 23, 2012 04:38PM)
I received mine and the gimmick looks really good. It doesn't quite line up 100% but I'm hoping if I have the guts to perform it then that won't be noticed. I also didn't recover the double back card and the disc included isn't the best but hopefully when they film the DVD that will be better.

I can't see myself palming though as my hands just aren't big enough so hoping a few other ideas will end up getting pinged about!
Message: Posted by: rasmus (Feb 23, 2012 05:55PM)
I definety like this Effect. The Gimmick looks awesome and the Reactions are Great. It looks like
Trick Fotography:)

I don't palm it off the normal way. I just slide it up over the top of the Phone and grab it with my
right fingers curled in, turn the iphone away from the Gimmick and just sleeve it. Then I cover the phone
with my right hand again and move the Logo back to his normal Position. Or when I am sitting on a table
I just Lap it.

You can also put a sticky dot on your sleeve, and when you go over the Phone, your sleeve touches for a
second the Gimmick and sticks on the sleeve.

I think this would also work very well with TKO or something similar

Hope this helps

Ceers:)
Message: Posted by: rasmus (Feb 23, 2012 05:57PM)
When you go over the iphone to wipe it clean with your sleeve, it sticks on it
and you are clean for the last phase.
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 24, 2012 04:32AM)
Will try the sleeve idea!
Cheers Rasmus
Message: Posted by: rob1973 (Feb 24, 2012 04:50AM)
I used this last night for the first time " in anger". It got an amazing reaction. I also used it on a white Iphone saying that it was quite easy to change a white Iphone back to a Black one. Not as strong but still worked!!
Message: Posted by: chuds (Feb 24, 2012 12:54PM)
Hi Guys

Anybody had a problem with the disc with the effect? mine will not play on 2 computers at home or 3 at work! Have downloaded latest quicktime and still wont play fully.....any ideas?

Thanks

Chuds
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Feb 24, 2012 02:16PM)
Hi Guys,

Iyou need to open the file in my computer and it should work fine. It's not an auto run file.

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: chuds (Feb 24, 2012 05:40PM)
Thanks Peter I will give it a try.

Regards

Chuds
Message: Posted by: ibraa (Feb 25, 2012 06:41AM)
Will this be released for white iPhones?

It is a great effect anyways, I was just wondering.
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Feb 25, 2012 10:31AM)
On the latest alakazam news Peter mentioned that they are expecting a White prototype very soon.
If ok he said they will offer the option of White or black when this is officially released

I will be adding the White one. Imagine you perform this on someone with the black version.
Then someone pipes up "well can you do it on my White phone?"
How cool will that be when you show that you can.
Message: Posted by: mike donoghue (Feb 26, 2012 12:42PM)
Used this at two events yesterday and one today and at every single one, the reactins from the paying public were like the David Blaine, Chris Angel, Dynamo reactions that you see on tv. However as they were not extras or peple in the know, I have got to agree with Peter that this is far from a pipedream. I would call it an effect that is crystal clear for people to umderstand using a BOROWED object.How much stronger can an effect be?

Another quality product from top man Peter Nardi's Alakazam. 10 out of 10 mate !

Mike Donoghue
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Feb 26, 2012 12:58PM)
Great to hear that Mike, thanks for sharing.
Message: Posted by: king2262 (Feb 26, 2012 03:00PM)
Once again I'm amazed at how simple yet effective this effect is ......and why oh why didn't I think of that !:)
Well done Craig Squires and Alakazam
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Feb 28, 2012 06:08AM)
Thanks for the comments guys

Peter
Message: Posted by: carlwag (Feb 28, 2012 07:17AM)
Did this on the wife's phone, she was amazed but later when we went out she said to me "show them all how you vanished my apple logo"

Quick note to self, carry ilogo with you are all times or you might come unstuck.

Carl.
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Feb 28, 2012 07:34AM)
Indeed Carl,

Don't leave home without it LOL

Peter
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 28, 2012 07:43AM)
Finding it quite hard to ditch the gimmick as people I have done it to are always looking at my hand
Message: Posted by: Myke Phillips (Feb 28, 2012 08:38AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-28 08:43, reignofsound wrote:
Finding it quite hard to ditch the gimmick as people I have done it to are always looking at my hand
[/quote]


I spent the afternoon in covent garden with a few magicians the other day going through a routine using the ilogo gimmick.
We came up with a fantastic handling where every move ( from adding to romoving the gimmick) was all motivated. You would not get burned.

I loved it even though I don't own one.

Regards
Myke Phillips
Message: Posted by: king2262 (Feb 28, 2012 09:06AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-28 09:38, mykephillips wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-02-28 08:43, reignofsound wrote:
Finding it quite hard to ditch the gimmick as people I have done it to are always looking at my hand
[

I spent the afternoon in covent garden with a few magicians the other day going through a routine using the ilogo gimmick.
We came up with a fantastic handling where every move ( from adding to romoving the gimmick) was all motivated. You would not get burned.

I loved it even though I don't own one.

Regards
Myke Phillips
[/quote]


Any chance of sharing your handling ?
Thanks
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Feb 28, 2012 09:14AM)
Thanks for the comments guys

Peter
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Feb 28, 2012 09:45AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-28 09:38, mykephillips wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-02-28 08:43, reignofsound wrote:
Finding it quite hard to ditch the gimmick as people I have done it to are always looking at my hand
[/quote]


I spent the afternoon in covent garden with a few magicians the other day going through a routine using the ilogo gimmick.
We came up with a fantastic handling where every move ( from adding to romoving the gimmick) was all motivated. You would not get burned.

I loved it even though I don't own one.

Regards
Myke Phillips
[/quote]



Can you share?
Message: Posted by: Myke Phillips (Feb 28, 2012 10:42AM)
Sorry to tease,

I can't really to be honest as I don't own the gimmick myself. But as with anything, with the right people around you who want this to work for you, will help you routine this.

If your in London covent garden anytime, go see Sergio Barros the street performer, he'll sort you out.

Regards
Myke
Message: Posted by: matt.magicman (Feb 28, 2012 03:24PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-28 11:42, mykephillips wrote:
Sorry to tease,

I can't really to be honest as I don't own the gimmick myself. But as with anything, with the right people around you who want this to work for you, will help you routine this.

If your in London covent garden anytime, go see Sergio Barros the street performer, he'll sort you out.

Regards
Myke
[/quote]

YouTube?
Message: Posted by: paulyjr (Feb 28, 2012 05:16PM)
I bought one in Blackpool. I predict everyone will be using one. I was also with Sergio and Myke and after a bit of sessioning we developed excellent motivated moves. Have been using it constantly over the weekend at a wedding fair.
Message: Posted by: Myke Phillips (Feb 29, 2012 07:02AM)
Hi Paul,

What have the reactions been like?

And how is your mentalism act comming on mate?

Regards
Myke
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Feb 29, 2012 08:24AM)
Just performed iLogo today for the first time.

I played it like this:

"There are so many hidden features on the iphone that no one seems to know everything that it can do.
Take the logo on the back for example. Did you know that if you catch it just right you can do this?"

Wow - I think I loved it as much as the people watching!
Great reactions!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Marko (Feb 29, 2012 02:09PM)
This discussion is all good and well, but where do you buy this item? I go to the Alakazam site, type iLogo into the search box and it says "Item Not Found." Am I then to presume that all you who have praised its merits have bought the measly few on offer from Blackpool and there are none others? If so, where and when can I buy this item? Much appreciated!
Message: Posted by: bekralik (Feb 29, 2012 03:22PM)
Correct. Peter Nardi on page 3 of this thread explains when the next batch will be ready.
Message: Posted by: F.U.D.T.S.P (Feb 29, 2012 03:24PM)
It hasn't been released yet. There was a small quantity at Blackpool as a pre-release and a very small amount were made available for those that couldn't make Blackpool. The full release I believe will be in a month or two.

So yes, the people discussing it picked it up at Blackpool or from the shop a few days before the convention.
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Feb 29, 2012 04:29PM)
Hi Guys,

We are aiming to release iLogo 4/4/12. This should be up for pre-order on our site in a few days

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: parmenion (Feb 29, 2012 04:33PM)
Peter, built some for white Iphone please :)
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Feb 29, 2012 04:40PM)
We should have both colours on day of release.

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: Martin.Lester (Feb 29, 2012 04:41PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-29 15:09, Mr. Marko wrote:
This discussion is all good and well, but where do you buy this item? I go to the Alakazam site, type iLogo into the search box and it says "Item Not Found." Am I then to presume that all you who have praised its merits have bought the measly few on offer from Blackpool and there are none others? If so, where and when can I buy this item? Much appreciated!
[/quote]

This is and has always been one of the most annoying aspects of
Peter's website there is nothing more frustrating than doing a search
For one of Peter's own items or clicking on a link and going to a totally

BLANK PAGE

When a simple message " item not available " would provide
a much more helpfull customer experience

I did put all above into last alakazam questionnaire as I am sure many
Others have done but so far nothing has changed

But we live in hope !
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Feb 29, 2012 04:47PM)
Hi Martin,

We took the item down as soon as it sold out . We do not like offering an item for pre sale unless we know the expected release date. I don't every recall doing this before?

Peter
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Mar 1, 2012 07:48AM)
ILogo is now on pre order in both Black & white. http://www.alakazam.co.uk. Be sure to check out the new trailer.

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: lucavolpe (Mar 1, 2012 08:15AM)
HI Peter, two questions...
1.will be the download available of the new video for the previous owner of I LOGO?
2. Will be a special deal for the previous purchasers of the black gimmick for the white gimmick?
Thanks!
Luca
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Mar 1, 2012 08:33AM)
Good questions Luca ;)
Message: Posted by: Mr. Marko (Mar 1, 2012 02:09PM)
Thank you, gentlemen. I just pre-ordered. Looking forward to April 4 or thereabouts. Like the new video, too. Very high resolution. I think Greg Wilson's appearance helped sell it. Total cost including shipping to the US after conversion from pounds to dollars. $53.47. I hope this is worth it and I think it will be.
Message: Posted by: lucavolpe (Mar 1, 2012 05:32PM)
:) @David!
Message: Posted by: mysterious_guy (Mar 1, 2012 07:12PM)
[quote]ILogo is now on pre order in both Black & white. http://www.alakazam.co.uk. Be sure to check out the new trailer.

Regards

Peter[/quote]

Perhaps you could also add a special combined price for new buyers who wish to purchase both the white and black gimmicks together?
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Mar 3, 2012 01:10AM)
Hi Guys,

A combo pack has been added to the site.

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: lucavolpe (Mar 3, 2012 06:21AM)
HI Peter...if someone has already purchase (like me) the black gimmick in preorder, is it possible to purchase only the white one at special price?
:)
Thanks
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Mar 3, 2012 02:01PM)
Hi Luca,

I'm away at the moment but will look In to it when I'm back.

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: einhorn (Mar 3, 2012 04:58PM)
Just returned from a gig and managed to perform ilogo four times......Craig is a good buddy of mine. I was probably one of the first to see it and play with it....but until I did it for real people I did not anticipate the reaction it would recieve . The thing is, it is such a current trick. Almost everyone is holding or carrying an iPhone. The handling is MUCH easier than I had envisaged and every time I performed it to a group I was asked to repeat it - I did not repeat it to the same group - when they know what is coming it is probably a bit more of a challenge to do it without them being aware of certain things but this is something I am going to carry for those opportune moments. I say it again, don't dismiss this until you have actually worked it for real people. The reactions it gets may just surprise you.
Message: Posted by: magicmind (Mar 3, 2012 08:49PM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-01 15:09, Mr. Marko wrote:
Thank you, gentlemen. I just pre-ordered. Looking forward to April 4 or thereabouts. Like the new video, too. Very high resolution. I think Greg Wilson's appearance helped sell it. Total cost including shipping to the US after conversion from pounds to dollars. $53.47. I hope this is worth it and I think it will be.
[/quote]
Ouch! I guess I will buy mine the week after on the Cafť. Kind of expensive for ABS and a silk.
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Mar 4, 2012 11:48PM)
Glad you're enjoying it Nick. The feedback we have had from workers has been awesome.

Peter
Message: Posted by: sohaib (Mar 13, 2012 03:56PM)
Just saw the demo! This is brilliant!
Message: Posted by: Titanas (Mar 13, 2012 04:01PM)
I am an iLogo proud user now and I love it.
Its quick, visual and gets great reactions, what else could I ask?
Most important is that its an effect that a spectator can describe to another in one line..... (He just took my phone and moved the logo to another position)

Best regards,
T.
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Mar 14, 2012 05:07AM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-03 07:21, lucavolpe wrote:
HI Peter...if someone has already purchase (like me) the black gimmick in preorder, is it possible to purchase only the white one at special price?
:)
Thanks
[/quote]

Hi Peter,

Any news on this yet please?

Thanks

David
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Mar 19, 2012 11:42AM)
Hi David,

We will be selling the gimmick only for £22.50

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: Mark Southworth (Mar 20, 2012 03:36AM)
Hi Peter,
Thanks for the info will the white gimmicks be available to purchase separately please ?

I have my own routine that's getting amazing reactions this is a fantastic effect I use this all the time. I have 2 one without the logo so I can make the logo vanish & on the other the logo has moved. Performing alternate handlings really gets a room buzzing & having the additton of the white gaff this is great.

I have mine in my left pocket orientated the right way to perform & good tip for people like me carrying 2 gimmicks you can feel which ones which in your pocket.

Takes up hardly any pocket space & gets great reactions, very modern & up to date.

Can 2 white gimmicks be available to me instead of the 1 white / 1 black.

Thanks Again

Mark Southworth
Message: Posted by: Iain Moran (Mar 20, 2012 01:16PM)
Just spoken to my friend Gary Jones about this effect - he's got a fantastic handling of this, where the logo vanishes from the phone appears on the back of the spectators hand!

I'm going to have to buy an iPhone now!

Iain.
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Mar 20, 2012 02:28PM)
Stronger to use their phone Iain

Peter
Message: Posted by: Iain Moran (Mar 20, 2012 03:13PM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-20 15:28, Peter Nardi wrote:
Stronger to use their phone Iain
[/quote]
Thanks, Peter - you've just saved me a lot of money! :)

Iain.
Message: Posted by: gjmagic (Mar 20, 2012 06:04PM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-20 15:28, Peter Nardi wrote:
Stronger to use their phone Iain

Peter
[/quote]

Too true Peter, this effect is brilliant and so up with the times. I've found that just about every table or group I approach there's always at least one iPhone, and the gimmicks allow you to be very creative. As Iain mentioned, playing around with this I've had really great reactions with the logo appearing on the back of the spectator's hand, just make sure that you're holding the phone and not the spectator when you do the reveal lol!!

Gary Jones.
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Mar 21, 2012 02:05PM)
It will be difficult to practice though Iain ;)
Message: Posted by: Daniel Nicholls (Mar 26, 2012 11:08AM)
Just another voice here to say how brilliant this effect is. Been playing with mine all afternoon and can't get over how much fun this is. Anyone sitting on the fence
.. Shouldn't. I work in a phone shop and this is going to be used for new iPhone customers for sure.

Dan
Message: Posted by: Mr. Marko (Mar 26, 2012 12:15PM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-26 12:08, Daniel Nicholls wrote:I work in a phone shop and this is going to be used for new iPhone customers for sure.

Dan
[/quote]

Wow! What a great idea! Hope you sell a lot of iPhones. Good luck!
Message: Posted by: craigsquires (Mar 30, 2012 02:18PM)
Hey All

Just to let you know that iLogo is now avaliable at Penguin Magic...in stock and ready to ship.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/2661

Craig Squires
Message: Posted by: Judah Vee (Mar 30, 2012 06:44PM)
Curious why Penguin does not have the combo pack Alakazam has? I would love to buy this but want both gimmicks.... guess I'll wait a bit.

-J-
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Mar 31, 2012 02:28AM)
Hi Guys,

We have iLogo in stock and ready to ship. http://www.alakazam.co.uk

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: movemonkey (Mar 31, 2012 05:24AM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-20 19:04, gjmagic wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-03-20 15:28, Peter Nardi wrote:
Stronger to use their phone Iain

Peter
[/quote]

Too true Peter, this effect is brilliant and so up with the times. I've found that just about every table or group I approach there's always at least one iPhone, and the gimmicks allow you to be very creative. As Iain mentioned, playing around with this I've had really great reactions with the logo appearing on the back of the spectator's hand, just make sure that you're holding the phone and not the spectator when you do the reveal lol!!

Gary Jones.
[/quote]


Gary, I would love to know the details of your handling... but maybe is this too good to be shared? :)
Message: Posted by: Roger_Staton (Mar 31, 2012 04:57PM)
I have ordered this and am very exited to receive it...would love to see some of you guys who already have this post a full reveiw of this like about the strength of the material on the DVD
Message: Posted by: matt.magicman (Apr 2, 2012 03:59AM)
I see this is out for general release today!
Well done guys on what probably going to be your most successful project of all time.
I was lucky enough to pick up the Blackpool pre-release, any ideas when / where the new DVD will be available to us?
Cheers!
Matt
Message: Posted by: Jamie Ferguson (Apr 2, 2012 04:58AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-02 04:59, matt.magicman wrote:
I see this is out for general release today!
Well done guys on what probably going to be your most successful project of all time.
I was lucky enough to pick up the Blackpool pre-release, any ideas when / where the new DVD will be available to us?
Cheers!
Matt
[/quote]
Ditto, I've enjoyed having some exclusivity on this for a while.

Peter mentioned a video download for Blackpool purchasers. Would love to see any additional handlings if available. If not, no problem. There was enough info on the original DVD to go forth and entertain.
Message: Posted by: MuscleMagic (Apr 2, 2012 03:53PM)
If you have a audience that is drunk or in a very dark place this might work, even if the gimmick I got was aligned it wouldnt be good

if anyone still feel they can make use of it hit me up, not looking to sell but always looking for a good dvd on card magic
Message: Posted by: smacks183 (Apr 2, 2012 09:28PM)
Mine looks very good. I wonder if your gimmick was mismade.
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Apr 3, 2012 05:49AM)
Musclemagic, you must have a bad gimmick. The one I have is perfect.
Message: Posted by: MuscleMagic (Apr 3, 2012 08:47AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-03 06:49, David Klass wrote:
Musclemagic, you must have a bad gimmick. The one I have is perfect.
[/quote]

so seriously youd try to do this in a avg lit room with person or people close by, serious?

its too thick and even if the thing was aligned it wouldnt work in most situations

should someone carry it around in case he does meet some crackheads and drunks?
Message: Posted by: benmagic1 (Apr 3, 2012 09:34AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-03 09:47, MuscleMagic wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-04-03 06:49, David Klass wrote:
Musclemagic, you must have a bad gimmick. The one I have is perfect.
[/quote]

so seriously youd try to do this in a avg lit room with person or people close by, serious?

its too thick and even if the thing was aligned it wouldnt work in most situations

should someone carry it around in case he does meet some crackheads and drunks?
[/quote]

That is a little harsh, fair enough if you do not like the trick but to say that you think the gimmick is too thick and you can only do this for crackheads and drunks just confirms to everyone that you are not a very good magician !

The people I perform this to are neither crackheads nor drunks, I had one geezer the other day telling me this was the best trick he has ever seen and he was a sober GP !

I know that you are entitled to your opinion but on the other hand to say something that is not true is not really helping those who are trying to decide whether or not to but this.

I can tell all those of you who are thinking about buying this you will not be disapointed and the gimmick is not too thick, and you DO NOT need an audience of drunks and crackheads to perform this if you are a good magician !

Ben
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Apr 3, 2012 10:08AM)
Thanks for that Muscleman - whoever you are.

I tried to help you out and that's the response.

This is one of the most commercial effects I have seen in a long, long time.

As I said my gimmick is perfect and yes I would be happy to perform this in a very well lit room.
I have already performed it in all kinds of venues - indoors and outdoors.

I'll try to be nice again. Maybe you should contact Peter or the Alakazam team.
I'm sure they will be very happy to help. If you have got a bad gimmick I'm sure they will replace it for you.
Message: Posted by: movemonkey (Apr 3, 2012 12:06PM)
So any smooth method to get clean without unnatural finger moves or a hank?
Message: Posted by: MuscleMagic (Apr 3, 2012 03:56PM)
Well I just pulled it on a few people, and it worked real well, I think my big mistake was telling people too early what I'm about to do with the apple logo, now I waited a bit more to when I was close to doing it
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Apr 4, 2012 04:13AM)
ILogo is one of the coolest effects we have ever released!

Peter
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Apr 4, 2012 04:40AM)
I agree Peter! ;)

Musclemagic, don't tell them what you are going to do at all - just do it.

I say that I want to show them something cool that not a lot of people know you can do with an iphone. Then I move the logo.

If they ask how I did it I tell them it's an app ;)
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Apr 4, 2012 09:43AM)
You will be amazed how many people try to move their logo after you perform iLogo on their phone. It's so funny to watch :)
Message: Posted by: nowyoucme (Apr 4, 2012 10:08AM)
This looks really cool. Buy what happens to the gimmick when there is a new I phone comes out? If apple changes the size of shape in any way your gimmick will no longer work right?
Message: Posted by: craigsquires (Apr 4, 2012 01:17PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-04 11:08, nowyoucme wrote:
This looks really cool. Buy what happens to the gimmick when there is a new I phone comes out? If apple changes the size of shape in any way your gimmick will no longer work right?
[/quote]

Hey Everyone

I am really humbled by the great reactions iLogo is getting around the world. Don't worry too much about a new iPhone possibly coming as all this means is there will be more and more iPhone 4/4s out there as they will go on sale as apple try to clear stock.
Message: Posted by: nowyoucme (Apr 4, 2012 05:22PM)
Good point. Iam in.
Message: Posted by: JBCloseUpMagic (Apr 4, 2012 08:04PM)
I'm just basing my opinion off of the trailer so I hope no one jumps down my throat. Anyway for 50 bucks there are soooooo many much better tricks out there to spend your money on. I mean yea anything with borrowed objects is great but its really situational. Yea I could just use my phone but then I think it wouldnt be as magical. Plus then I would have to not use my 40 dollar case lol. So everyone is just hoping that the spectator has the correct IPhone and has no case on it. Maybe I cant see the potential here but I really think its not that impressive either way. You can just move a pip on a card and get the same reaction lol.
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Apr 5, 2012 01:47AM)
I really don't think moving a pip on a card will get you the same reaction but with that said iLogo will not be for everyone. Those who have it and use it will know the power this effect has on a spectator.

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: gjmagic (Apr 5, 2012 04:22AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-04 21:04, JBCloseUpMagic wrote:
I'm just basing my opinion off of the trailer so I hope no one jumps down my throat. Anyway for 50 bucks there are soooooo many much better tricks out there to spend your money on. I mean yea anything with borrowed objects is great but its really situational. Yea I could just use my phone but then I think it wouldnt be as magical. Plus then I would have to not use my 40 dollar case lol. So everyone is just hoping that the spectator has the correct IPhone and has no case on it. Maybe I cant see the potential here but I really think its not that impressive either way. You can just move a pip on a card and get the same reaction lol.
[/quote]

IMO....moving something which is supposed to be permanently fixed is as magical looking as it gets (the moving hole plot is a perfect example) added to this, moving a natural borrowed item is taking this plot to the next level! Moving a card pip is a very good trick but it doesn't quite hit them on an emotional level, now imagine doing the same type of effect but using their phone, in the minds of the spectators this is just so impossible!

As for not finding the right phone, I've yet to approach a group where someone didn't have the right type of phone, oh the power of Apple!!

I don't think any of us see the real potential of most effects until we go out and perform them, or someone hits us with them, to prove this just check out the some of the effects Blaine or Angel have performed on the TV, and then mad rush to buy these effects lol!!

As you can gather I really like this effect, and I instantly saw the potential in it!

Regards,

Gary.
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Apr 5, 2012 05:44AM)
Well said Gary!!
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Apr 5, 2012 12:17PM)
With you 100% Gary
Message: Posted by: Jamie Ferguson (Apr 5, 2012 05:55PM)
Nice one Gary, you talk sense.
Message: Posted by: Roger_Staton (Apr 5, 2012 06:05PM)
This trick is incredible...once the handling is down it will shock people...I would buy it now if I were you.
Message: Posted by: MuscleMagic (Apr 5, 2012 08:23PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-04 21:04, JBCloseUpMagic wrote:
I'm just basing my opinion off of the trailer so I hope no one jumps down my throat. Anyway for 50 bucks there are soooooo many much better tricks out there to spend your money on. I mean yea anything with borrowed objects is great but its really situational. Yea I could just use my phone but then I think it wouldnt be as magical. Plus then I would have to not use my 40 dollar case lol. So everyone is just hoping that the spectator has the correct IPhone and has no case on it. Maybe I cant see the potential here but I really think its not that impressive either way. You can just move a pip on a card and get the same reaction lol.
[/quote]prob is that in this fast pace youtube age etc you need fresh stuff, card tricks in most cases might get a wow etc but to a point, new effects are needed to really get the wow wtf reaction that gets people to remember and talk about it

yes a utility like the extractor is under 100 bucks and can have a zillion and a half uses but its still will all be card related sometimes you need to spice things up with new things

key in this effect althou this holds true to many effects is that do not tell them what you are about to do until gimmick is in place
Message: Posted by: Xcath1 (Apr 5, 2012 11:50PM)
It looks like great eye candy. To a magician it looks pretty obvious, but I am sure a worker who can take a person's eyes off their hands this could be very effective
Message: Posted by: gjmagic (Apr 6, 2012 05:24AM)
Don't forget we always have the element of surprise on our side and the spectators shouldn't have a clue of what we're about to do, and they certainly won't see this effect coming!

If you want to add the gimmick onto their phone sleight free give this a try. Borrow a phone and ask if you can keep it, smile and at the same time place their phone into your pocket, add the you know what and bring it straight out again whilst saying, "Only joking" you're done and as far as the spectator is concerned you haven't even started the effect. This is bold but works, it's a tried and tested move/switch which works if you have the right attitude, in the minds of the spectator the trick hasn't even started but you're miles ahead, when they back track they won't even remember you going near your pocket!

If you're using a routine where the logo is to appear somewhere else (I use my effect 'One Short of a Full Deck' from iCandy, or I make the logo appear on the back of the spectator's hand) it's very natural to place the phone sticking out of your pocket to free up your hands (the phone is in full view just angle it so it wedges in the pocket) or place it into the pocket (leave the you know what in your pocket) bring it straight out again and place the phone on the table logo side down.

After the vanish of the logo I prefer to use the black silk to wipe my finger marks off their phone and then do the work, I then place the phone logo side down onto someone's hand, show the reveal, and then vanish the logo and show it's back on the phone!

If you know the old ditch in the side pocket dodge (PM me if you don't) when you apparently remove the logo and they think it's inside your hand, with just a little body turn you can go to hand the "logo" to someone and the hand holding the phone will be just by your side pocket ;-)

So much magic happening with a borrowed item and it's almost self-working!

Gary.
Message: Posted by: Roger_Staton (Apr 6, 2012 06:30PM)
Honestly... This is the best effect I have bought in a long time...I use it every time I have a chance and the reactions are killer ... I use it to vanish the logo and not move it...it just feels stronger that way for me....but I use the method Greg Wilson teaches of the video and it is perfect for me. I a,so have a routine of my own with this the I love with playing card but I'm not ready to share it quite yet
Message: Posted by: Illucifer (Apr 7, 2012 12:01PM)
This is a great and well-made gimmick. I notice, though, it's very loud when the gimmick moves against the phone (i.e., when showing the Apple logo once more before moving/vanishing it). This doesn't seem to be the case in the video, but perhaps it's just not picked up by the mic.
Anyone else have this issue? I'm sure in a very ambient environment it's no problem, but elsewhere...
Message: Posted by: F.U.D.T.S.P (Apr 7, 2012 02:24PM)
Have you taken BOTH protective layers off?
Message: Posted by: Roger_Staton (Apr 7, 2012 03:19PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-07 13:01, Illucifer wrote:
This is a great and well-made gimmick. I notice, though, it's very loud when the gimmick moves against the phone (i.e., when showing the Apple logo once more before moving/vanishing it). This doesn't seem to be the case in the video, but perhaps it's just not picked up by the mic.
Anyone else have this issue? I'm sure in a very ambient environment it's no problem, but elsewhere...
[/quote]

Without giving the method away there is a way you can hold it to make that sound go away
Message: Posted by: Illucifer (Apr 7, 2012 08:28PM)
F.U.D.T.S.P. - Yes, all protective layers have been removed.

Roger, drop me a PM, if you don't mind. Seems that sort of thing would have been covered, or at least mentioned, in the DVD instructions.
Message: Posted by: MuscleMagic (Apr 8, 2012 05:33AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-07 21:28, Illucifer wrote:
F.U.D.T.S.P. - Yes, all protective layers have been removed.

Roger, drop me a PM, if you don't mind. Seems that sort of thing would have been covered, or at least mentioned, in the DVD instructions.
[/quote]

I know exactly what you saying, they sell very very fine super thin felt in hobby shops, I'm gonna get some and apply it on bottom, I'm talking super fine like paper thing it will kill off that noise

or you can just talk loud when it hits hahaha

80% its good its just that other 20% that you hear that noise
Message: Posted by: David Klass (Apr 8, 2012 07:04AM)
I'm just a little gutted that I pre-ordered now and so missed out on the DVD.

I would have loved to hear Gregs thoughts.
Message: Posted by: king2262 (Apr 8, 2012 09:27AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-08 08:04, David Klass wrote:
I'm just a little gutted that I pre-ordered now and so missed out on the DVD.

I would have loved to hear Gregs thoughts.
[/quote]

Me too :(
It would be nice if it was made available to everyone who purchased a pre/release copy.
Message: Posted by: Jamie Ferguson (Apr 8, 2012 09:30AM)
Peter promised Blackpool buyers a video download when the trick was officially released.

I think it may already be on the site.
Message: Posted by: king2262 (Apr 8, 2012 09:33AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-21 06:42, Peter Nardi wrote:
Yes Darren, We are hoping to have it as a download for those who purchased the pre-release copy.

Regards

Peter
[/quote]

Any news on the download Peter ?

Thanks
Message: Posted by: Jamie Ferguson (Apr 8, 2012 01:40PM)
I hope it won't cost extra. Let's hope Peter is feeling generous :)
Message: Posted by: rowland (Apr 8, 2012 04:03PM)
I just ordered the white version to go with the black one I got from Blackpool so at least I will get the dvd with it. This is one of the best things I have bought in a long time. The reactions are great, as someone has already said seeing them rub the logo on the back of their phone when younhand it back is great lol
Message: Posted by: Jamie Ferguson (Apr 9, 2012 05:31AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-08 10:33, king2262 wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-02-21 06:42, Peter Nardi wrote:
Yes Darren, We are hoping to have it as a download for those who purchased the pre-release copy.

Regards

Peter
[/quote]

Any news on the download Peter ?

Thanks
[/quote]
I'm picking up a mental vibe that Peter won't be able to respond until he returns from his sister's house where he spent part of Easter. Peter, how are my mentalist skills? :)
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Apr 9, 2012 05:46AM)
I purchased Pre release copy but I was told I would need to pay £4.99 for the DVD
Message: Posted by: rowland (Apr 9, 2012 11:10AM)
I have a question for people that have the black and white version, do you find that you have to use a silk matching the colour of the phone, my reason for asking is I have been using the black version since Blackpool with a black silk and I have just ordered the white version, just wondered whether I can get away with the black silk if you know what I mean.
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Apr 9, 2012 03:12PM)
:) Jamie you were spot on :). I'm back in the shop this week. Been working abroad recently so not been visiting the Cafť much. I will check the status on the DVDs for iLogo pre release customers.

Rowland you you will be ok with the black silk.

Reads

Peter
Message: Posted by: rowland (Apr 9, 2012 03:22PM)
Cheers Pete looking forward to the white version :)
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Apr 9, 2012 03:56PM)
The white version looks great Rowland.

Peter
Message: Posted by: Illucifer (Apr 9, 2012 05:35PM)
I've discovered that if I turn the gimmick wrong way down (that is, face down) the noise is gone. It becomes perfectly silent, as if the face is glassy smooth and the back has some roughness. Anyone else have this issue? Unfortunately, it can;t be performed this way. Seems both sides should be the same.
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Apr 10, 2012 01:48AM)
Hi Illucifer,

Try not putting as much pressure on the gimmick when you slide it. A light touch will move the gimmick and cut down any talk.

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: Illucifer (Apr 10, 2012 06:31AM)
Hi Peter,

I'm putting no pressure at all. Sounds like I'm rubbing sandpaper on the phone. So, this is normal, then? I was surprised at how perfectly quiet the other side is. It would be ideal if both sides were like that.
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Apr 10, 2012 02:46PM)
Mine has a little talk when I'm rehearsing but it's not heard in performance.

Peter
Message: Posted by: matt.magicman (Apr 11, 2012 04:35AM)
I did this last night at Brighton Amex Stadium where I regularly perform for the corporate hospitably.
Turns out the guy I did it to is a radio presenter, and he just raved about it "on air" this morning!
It's bloody great thanks Peter / Craig ;)
Matt Wainwright

http://www.mattwainwright.com
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (Apr 11, 2012 08:36AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-05 05:22, gjmagic wrote:


IMO....moving something which is supposed to be permanently fixed is as magical looking as it gets (the moving hole plot is a perfect example) added to this, moving a natural borrowed item is taking this plot to the next level! Moving a card pip is a very good trick but it doesn't quite hit them on an emotional level, now imagine doing the same type of effect but using their phone, in the minds of the spectators this is just so impossible!

As for not finding the right phone, I've yet to approach a group where someone didn't have the right type of phone, oh the power of Apple!!

I don't think any of us see the real potential of most effects until we go out and perform them, or someone hits us with them, to prove this just check out the some of the effects Blaine or Angel have performed on the TV, and then mad rush to buy these effects lol!!

As you can gather I really like this effect, and I instantly saw the potential in it!

Regards,

Gary.
[/quote]

I cringe when you post Gary, because you're always spot on. I don't have an Iphone, but know it seems I'll have to get one down the road.

Clarke
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Apr 11, 2012 03:28PM)
Great news Matt, well done!

Peter
Message: Posted by: matt.magicman (Apr 11, 2012 04:32PM)
The reaction was awesome!
Watching him spending about 5 minutes scratching the back of his iPhone afterwards was priceless!
Message: Posted by: gjmagic (Apr 12, 2012 03:57AM)
Lol Clarke!! I don't have a real iPhone (I'm on Android) but I have a large selection of dummy phones which I use for some serious wind-ups!! I do however carry a dummy iPhone just in case I'm not able to borrow one, up to now I've not had to use it!

Regards,

Gary.
PS Nice one Matt!
Message: Posted by: MuscleMagic (Apr 12, 2012 09:08AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-12 04:57, gjmagic wrote:
Lol Clarke!! I don't have a real iPhone (I'm on Android) but I have a large selection of dummy phones which I use for some serious wind-ups!! I do however carry a dummy iPhone just in case I'm not able to borrow one, up to now I've not had to use it!

Regards,

Gary.
PS Nice one Matt!
[/quote]

create a android gimmick with apple logo, tell them a nice story about apple buying android or whatever
Message: Posted by: Italia16 (Apr 12, 2012 01:09PM)
I'm not really into phone magic but this has me interested. This looks pretty cool.
Message: Posted by: movemonkey (Apr 13, 2012 02:09PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-06 06:24, gjmagic wrote:
Don't forget we always have the element of surprise on our side and the spectators shouldn't have a clue of what we're about to do, and they certainly won't see this effect coming!

If you want to add the gimmick onto their phone sleight free give this a try. Borrow a phone and ask if you can keep it, smile and at the same time place their phone into your pocket, add the you know what and bring it straight out again whilst saying, "Only joking" you're done and as far as the spectator is concerned you haven't even started the effect. This is bold but works, it's a tried and tested move/switch which works if you have the right attitude, in the minds of the spectator the trick hasn't even started but you're miles ahead, when they back track they won't even remember you going near your pocket!

If you're using a routine where the logo is to appear somewhere else (I use my effect 'One Short of a Full Deck' from iCandy, or I make the logo appear on the back of the spectator's hand) it's very natural to place the phone sticking out of your pocket to free up your hands (the phone is in full view just angle it so it wedges in the pocket) or place it into the pocket (leave the you know what in your pocket) bring it straight out again and place the phone on the table logo side down.

After the vanish of the logo I prefer to use the black silk to wipe my finger marks off their phone and then do the work, I then place the phone logo side down onto someone's hand, show the reveal, and then vanish the logo and show it's back on the phone!

If you know the old ditch in the side pocket dodge (PM me if you don't) when you apparently remove the logo and they think it's inside your hand, with just a little body turn you can go to hand the "logo" to someone and the hand holding the phone will be just by your side pocket ;-)

So much magic happening with a borrowed item and it's almost self-working!

Gary.
[/quote]


Thanks for sharing handling Gary,
however its difficult to imagine your timing with words, would like soooo much to see you perform the version you describe... maybe you have a performance video of it?? at least we can hope :)
Message: Posted by: gjmagic (Apr 13, 2012 05:56PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-13 15:09, movemonkey wrote:
Thanks for sharing handling Gary,
however its difficult to imagine your timing with words, would like soooo much to see you perform the version you describe... maybe you have a performance video of it?? at least we can hope :)
[/quote]

I'm sure you can work it out without seeing me performing it ;-)
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Apr 16, 2012 01:05AM)
Performed this on a group of TV exec's the other day and totally fried them. I can't tell you how strong this is ! Craig has invented such a cool pice of eye candy.

Peter
Message: Posted by: Sean Giles (Apr 16, 2012 07:23AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-16 02:05, Peter Nardi wrote:
Performed this on a group of TV exec's the other day and totally fried them. I can't tell you how strong this is ! Craig has invented such a cool pice of eye candy.

Peter
[/quote]

Which handling do you use Peter? Just interested cause I always like your thinking.

Best
Sean
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Apr 16, 2012 11:38AM)
Hi Sean,

I perform the logo move and move back ala Greg Wilson, cleaning up with a silk or cop.

Hope this helps

Peter
Message: Posted by: movemonkey (Apr 20, 2012 05:38AM)
How much can you bend the gimmick without breaking it?
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Apr 20, 2012 06:44AM)
How far would you like to bend it?

Peter
Message: Posted by: king2262 (Apr 20, 2012 07:22AM)
Was there any more news regarding a download for those who purchased the pre/release copy?
Message: Posted by: movemonkey (Apr 20, 2012 11:10PM)
Well peter I generally palm card bending them nearly 90 degree, that's a more relax and natural talking position for me

would 90 degree be too much for the ilogo gimmick?
Message: Posted by: Tonylew (Apr 30, 2012 07:39PM)
I very rarely voice an opinion that contradicts that of the majority of my fellow Cafť members. However, I just watched a video demo of this effect and found the method to be quite obvious. I would like to add that I am generally easier to fool than the average magician.

Except for the equipment involved, it appears to me to merely be a variation of a standard color change.
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (Apr 30, 2012 07:53PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-30 20:39, Tonylew wrote:
I very rarely voice an opinion that contradicts that of the majority of my fellow Cafť members. However, I just watched a video demo of this effect and found the method to be quite obvious. I would like to add that I am generally easier to fool than the average magician.

Except for the equipment involved, it appears to me to merely be a variation of a standard color change.
[/quote]

Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.
Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (Apr 30, 2012 08:43PM)
Okay, but... What does it matter if it fools you or not? Lay people will be floored by it and that, to me, is what's important.
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (May 1, 2012 01:05AM)
Totally agree Cameron. I perform iLogo every day and the reactions are super strong. This to me is as strong as it gets, magic that looks off the cuff with a spectators object. What's not to love!

Peter
Message: Posted by: Tonylew (May 1, 2012 01:57PM)
Once again I readily concede the fact that my opinion is clearly contrary to that of the majority of my fellow members. However, I did get three private PM's from others who agreed with me.
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (May 1, 2012 02:47PM)
[quote]
On 2012-05-01 14:57, Tonylew wrote:
Once again I readily concede the fact that my opinion is clearly contrary to that of the majority of my fellow members. However, I did get three private PM's from others who agreed with me.
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Tony, anytime someone goes against the majority, they take a hit. Your opinion is as valid as anyone.

I think a professional performer can get a great deal of mileage out of this trick. In the hands of a Gary Jones or Greg Wilson, it will be wonderful.

Most will order this and go "oh, ok" and sell it. Not that it's bad, or doesn't work, but you have to carry the gimmick and have it in place. Hobbyists such as myself won't go to the trouble.

I've seen it in action and it works great. Well worth the money if you are going to use it.

I love using IT. Most don't because of the restrictions. To each their own on these things.
Message: Posted by: Tonylew (May 1, 2012 07:30PM)
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On 2012-05-01 15:47, Zombie Magic wrote:

I think a professional performer can get a great deal of mileage out of this trick. In the hands of a Gary Jones or Greg Wilson, it will be wonderful.

Most will order this and go "oh, ok" and sell it. Not that it's bad, or doesn't work, but you have to carry the gimmick and have it in place. Hobbyists such as myself won't go to the trouble.

I've seen it in action and it works great. Well worth the money if you are going to use it.

I love using IT. Most don't because of the restrictions. To each their own on these things.
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That is a great objective analysis by someone who is *using the effect successfully*. The continually large number of offerings in the "Let's make a deal" forum of the Cafť attests to the fact that in the world of magic, one size does not fit all.
Message: Posted by: movemonkey (May 1, 2012 11:59PM)
I think if you don't want to use the hank version... its very angly for walkaround, no way to do loading and unloading with people behind you or on the side
Message: Posted by: matt.magicman (May 2, 2012 05:50AM)
Cool, you lots top using it and I will claim universal domination for having super powers when holding a borrowed iPhone
Happy days :))
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (May 2, 2012 07:17AM)
You and me both Matt :)
Message: Posted by: Sean Giles (May 2, 2012 08:56AM)
I was really dubious about this. I didn't think it would fly... Then I tried it and Wow! This is one of those effects where the more intelligent the spec is, the harder it hits.

It has to be their iPhone though. Much, much better reactions when it's not my phone.

Best
Sean
Message: Posted by: Magicsquared (May 2, 2012 12:51PM)
I'm not sure the argument is "is this a good or bad effect," to me the argument is "do I perform in the types of situations and am I the type of performer who will get use out of this effect."

I think the initial phase of this trick is beautiful, I think the clean-up is kind of ugly.

The problem some performers have (and I'm one of them) is that I would never alter something and then be really coy about letting them see it, examine it, and experience it in that altered form. To me that's just not how someone would do it for REAL. (In reality, if someone could move the logo on the back of YOUR iphone you'd probably not want it put back in place, or at least you'd want to hold the iphone yourself with it in that condition.) But that's also because 98% of the performing I do is in a casual environment. Hanging out with friends or at a bar or whatever. Situations where it doesn't make sense to have an authoritarian tone in regards to the pace you're performing and what you're letting people see or not see.

But for a strolling gig, or any other situation where people feel like they're watching a "show" and not "something interesting my friend/acquaintance is showing me," I think you can get away with dictating how people interact with you and your presentation. And in those circumstances I'm sure this is a great effect.
Message: Posted by: Sean Giles (May 2, 2012 09:36PM)
People know it's sleight of hand. It's about a suspension of belief in a moment of time. Like the cinema. People don't think you're doing REAL magic, unless you're performing for children.

best
Sean
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (May 2, 2012 10:04PM)
[quote]
On 2012-05-02 22:36, Sean Giles wrote:
People know it's sleight of hand. It's about a suspension of belief in a moment of time. Like the cinema. People don't think you're doing REAL magic, unless you're performing for children.

best
Sean
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Well.......sometimes people can "believe". "Smart" people too. Steve Shaw ( Banachek ) fooled scientists. Depends what you do, how you do it and where you do it.

Strolling environment, they know it's a trick. Do something unexplainable in a non-performing environment, and some people will believe, depending on what you do.
Message: Posted by: Magicsquared (May 2, 2012 10:23PM)
[quote]
On 2012-05-02 22:36, Sean Giles wrote:
People know it's sleight of hand. It's about a suspension of belief in a moment of time. Like the cinema. People don't think you're doing REAL magic, unless you're performing for children.

best
Sean
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That's an awfully limited way to look at things. Either they believe in magic or they overlook the obvious methodology and suspend their belief? Those aren't your only two options. I've spent 20 years performing for people who don't fit in either category. They are people who don't believe in magic but at the same time they're completely astonished by it and they're not just playing along or suspending their belief. I would never perform something where I wanted my audience to suspend their belief. I don't want their help. I want them engaged with me and engaged with what I'm showing them. I want them to feel like we're having a genuine interaction, not that they're watching a "show."

And that was the point of my earlier post. I think this effect is best done under the pretenses of a "show" or a "performance." (In which case I'm sure it goes over great.) But in a more casual context -- chatting at a bar with someone -- I don't think it's ideal because the spectator doesn't really get to LIVE with that changed object, even for a few moments. And especially because it's their phone, that feels kind of awkward to me and the manner in which I perform.

For others this is going to be a non-issue. They won't have a problem with borrowing a phone, moving the logo, then moving it right back. And if that fits your style/environment then from everything I've heard, this is a great effect/gimmick for that.
Message: Posted by: MaxfieldsMagic (May 3, 2012 09:48PM)
Very nicely made gimmick, and the DVD is full of great ideas. This is a terrific effect. It's just offbeat and hip enough to really round out a set.
Message: Posted by: richard rain (May 6, 2012 12:05AM)
I hope this gimmick have 2.0 version
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (May 6, 2012 03:54AM)
I Perform this offbeat all the time. If I see someone with an iPhone I do it. Never had a bad reactionwitho it. To me iLogo is a perfect piece of weird , that people keep talking about long after the effect has ended.

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: mike donoghue (May 6, 2012 05:28AM)
I have this with me everytime I work, and will be using it again today at a wedding at the Juuges Hotel in Yarm. I combine it with Daniel Garcias "PRESSURE" which if done correctly with the right pace goes down well.

When you ask to borrow a phone there's allways more than one available, and if someone brings out the 4 or 4s, then I do both effects.

Got to say Peter, this is another quality release that gives people the Dynamo type reactions( without any stooging lol). But that's what you can expect from ALAKAZAM.

TOP QUALITY REAL WORLD MAGIC. 10 out of 10.

MIKE DONOGHUE
Message: Posted by: movemonkey (May 7, 2012 10:35AM)
Is that only me or the gimmick is misaligned with the Iphone 4S camera hole?
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (May 7, 2012 03:28PM)
I haven't noticed any misalignment with the gimmick? Maybe try changing the pressure of your grip on the phone. To tight a grip can cause the gimmick to slip down the phone a little

Peter
Message: Posted by: Jamie Ferguson (May 7, 2012 04:15PM)
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On 2012-04-20 08:22, king2262 wrote:
Was there any more news regarding a download for those who purchased the pre/release copy?
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Any update here Peter?
Message: Posted by: intheillusion (Jun 2, 2012 08:47PM)
I have both white and black gimmicks and the camera hole is misaligned with the Iphone 4S camera hole. I've been moving it down a little to align it or covering the entire hole with my thumb.
Message: Posted by: Illucifer (Jun 2, 2012 09:30PM)
My gimmick is definitely misaligned. The first one I had (I exchanged it) was, too. The folks at Penguin told me it's very common.
Message: Posted by: king2262 (Jun 3, 2012 04:26AM)
Mine was changed but still the camera hole was off .
It's never been noticed though,
Message: Posted by: juliusmagic (Jun 3, 2012 04:52PM)
Mines a few mm's misaligned as well..but, negligible. Its never spotted.
Message: Posted by: Robert M (Jun 3, 2012 07:40PM)
Mine lines up perfectly, but it depends on how you grip it.

I really don't think it's a problem.

Robert
Message: Posted by: king2262 (Jun 4, 2012 04:56AM)
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On 2012-05-07 17:15, Jamie Ferguson wrote:
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On 2012-04-20 08:22, king2262 wrote:
Was there any more news regarding a download for those who purchased the pre/release copy?
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Any update here Peter?
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Any news ??
Message: Posted by: Jamie Ferguson (Jun 4, 2012 06:10AM)
It's a shame that those that show the most commitment in terms of pre-ordering or buying in advance often seem to be the ones that miss out. These people are often the most valuable to a company so really shouldn't be neglected. I wonder when we'll get access to the download that was promised months ago?
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Jun 4, 2012 07:57AM)
Hi Jamie

No one missed out. We made it clear it was a pre release. Those who chose to purchase the pre release got the item cheaper and about 1 month before anyone else. We have been experiencing problems with our video downloads and are currently having our site updated. When this is complete we will put the extra handling online.

Alternatively you can call the shop and order a copy of the DVD. They are £3.95 including postage to any UK address or next time you order from us request one in the notes section of the order and we will pop one in (please include your iLogo order number)



Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: Jamie Ferguson (Jun 4, 2012 12:17PM)
Thanks for the explanation Peter. I was wrong to doubt you. Apologies. You are one of the few reputable dealers left. I only wish other dealers (who will remain nameless for now) took customer service as seriously as you do.
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Jun 5, 2012 06:04AM)
No problem Jamie.

Peter
Message: Posted by: Robert M (Jun 13, 2012 08:56AM)
My wife and I took our iPhones to the Verizon Store at the mall for some minor adjustments. After the guy at the store fixed them...

I said, "Oh... one more question. You know that silver apple on the back of the iPhone. Does yours do this?" And, I moved the apple down to the bottom of the phone.

And, the guy goes, "No! I have never seen that before!#$%!" And, he started to grab my phone.

So, I said, "But... if I wipe the finger prints off like this, then the apple goes back to the top. Yours doesn't do this??"

And, he said, "No!"

I handed him the phone and he rubbed the apple with his finger and got a very puzzled look on his face.

After a minute or so, he finally said, "Is this some sort of magic trick??"

And, I said, "Yeah." And, he cracked up.

I told him, "I figured if I could fool you, I could fool anybody since you know so much about these phones."

He was still laughing as we walked out of the store. I think it made his day. :D

Robert
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Jul 15, 2012 12:13AM)
Robert, now that is a review. Love it, now I might get this even though I DO NOT have and Iphone.
Message: Posted by: macdaddy (Jul 15, 2012 10:37AM)
In the US, the majority of the phones have a case on them. Are people looking for naked iPhones to to do ilogo?
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Jul 19, 2012 11:38AM)
Should've just told the guy that you thought it was a genuine feature Robert, weird :P LoL
Message: Posted by: Robert M (Jul 19, 2012 03:45PM)
Yeah, I should have. :)

You can't do iLogo if the phone has a cover or if it has bumpers (edge protectors). But, it's easy enough to take the phone out of the case or remove the bumpers. It just takes a second.

Also, you can do it with your phone, but it's probably better if you use theirs.

Robert
Message: Posted by: neomaster (Jul 23, 2012 07:23PM)
After reading all of this review, I decide to buy this.
Message: Posted by: craigsquires (Jul 31, 2012 05:28PM)
Hi All

Just to let you know that Alakazam Magic now have both black & white Printed iLogo's in stock. Perfect if you want to perform the "iMove" routine from the original DVD.

Can be found here http://www.alakazam.co.uk/product-ILoGo-Printed-Version.html

Thanks

Craig
Message: Posted by: John Born (Oct 18, 2012 01:40PM)
Hey guys -

Excuse my post if this has been answered, but in panning through this I didn't see it. Will this be made for the iphone5?

Best,

John Born
Message: Posted by: JackMagic (Oct 18, 2012 03:55PM)
Now iPhone 5 is out this product is no longer
The latest or the Greatest is it now yesterday's News

That is until you have to get the update that will
be along in a few months time

and so on the problem with this effect is

Small window in which you can use it

Only of use if person does not have a cover
Or Bumper

And constant need to re buy the same effect
Over and Over

Great for the dealers

Not so great for purchasers

Think I will pass on this one
Message: Posted by: rowland (Oct 19, 2012 12:30PM)
[quote]
On 2012-10-18 16:55, JackMagic wrote:
Now iPhone 5 is out this product is no longer
The latest or the Greatest is it now yesterday's News

That is until you have to get the update that will
be along in a few months time

and so on the problem with this effect is

Small window in which you can use it

Only of use if person does not have a cover
Or Bumper

And constant need to re buy the same effect
Over and Over

Great for the dealers

Not so great for purchasers

Think I will pass on this one
[/quote]

This is a great effect there will still be thousands of iPhone 4 and 4s out :)
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Dec 5, 2012 07:48AM)
Gregory Wilson says its worth buying an iPhone for. If you're using someone else phone, why would that be necessary.
Message: Posted by: Alex DLF (Dec 5, 2012 08:30AM)
Great offer on the penguin coolbox today ;)
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (Dec 5, 2012 08:46AM)
[img]http://images.penguinmagic.com/images/products/medium/5785f-50bf132b601c0.jpg[/img]

Penguin Cool Box is $9.95 for iLogo: http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/2661

"The best effect I've seen in a very long time"
- John Archer

"You'll want to buy an iPhone just to do this effect!"
- Greg Wilson

"This is TV magic but for the real world!"
- Peter Nardi
Message: Posted by: Libertus (Jan 19, 2013 04:48AM)
Please excuse a late review but I thought Il post it anyway.

I got my iLogo in black and white from Alakazam along with a iPhone for fun to practice it on. It arrived roughly 4 days ago and I have mastered my own way to do the performance. Well, it's not exactly my own way but I added a twist to make it like my own. Right now, after practicing it to the mirror and also doing it to close friends/family, it has given me great reactions. I can't wait to perform this at college to the guys and girls.

Here is my honest review, and any other additional tips:

Price:

The price is very worthy I believe. For this price, you are getting a nice DVD which explains everything in detail from the small bits to the hard bits.

I understand Penguin's Cool box has it a cheap price and I don't know who you are and what you do but at that price, YOU MUST purchase it. It is an ABSOLUTE steal. Believe me. I know I don't have enough rep/credibility here but believe me when I say this trick is easily worth the original price, so when you see it cheaper, then GRAB IT!

For the price, you receive both gimmicks which work on the iPhone 4/4S models and you get a DVD along with additional props for the gimmick.

DVD:

The DVD is full of great routines, and not every one of it is one I like - but they are all good.

Some are GREAT routines and some are just okay - each routine will suit each worker and how they do their magic.

Effect:

The effect itself is great. I actually knew about this trick a few months ago but because of the "method" involved, (***M***), I stayed away. However, I thought I might as well take the risk and I am glad I did.

If you don't like the original way of doing the "method" then you can find a "hands free" routine inside which helps for those who feel uncomfortable doing it the original way. I'm quite young myself so this is why I prefer the other way.

Although this routine is on the DVD, this is my version:

- I pick someone who has an iPhone. In my left/right pockets, I have the appropriate gimmicks. I ask the person/group what phones they have and I assure you, most of them, if not at least one, WILL have an iPhone.

I then ask them just to double check with them if they know what company makes iPhones, and they usually, always say "Apple".

So then I ask them if I can borrow the phone for a minute. They always say yes. This is MAYBE because I am in college and most people are chilled out people, but usually they will let you borrow it.

Now you place it in the appropriate pockets depending on the colour and position. (Remember - this is the method which involves no hard routines with the hand).

Now I do the cards routine on the DVD (Where they pick a card, sign it and then I tell them to grasp the deck in their hands and just imagine the impossible happening).

Then I say, "Well, there's this thing I can do on my iPhone, it's strange but let me see if it works on yours by any chance".

I then take the iPhone out, and make the logo disappear completely. I then go through the cards, and as taught in the routine, the apple logo is behind their signed card. At this stage, the phone goes back into the pocket while they are amazed at the fact that the logo is behind their signed card.

And then I take the phone out after putting their signed card on their palm face up. I then do any "cool" move and show that the logo jumps back on and I tell them that this has always been a mystery for me and I am still puzzled to this day on how this can work. I can then add a joke about doing the trick at the Apple store, to the "Genius"s and how it fools them..

Overall review:

I think it is a great trick for the ones who would like doing a particular trick/routine.

It would work very well if you are someone like me, attending college because most people carry iPhones. The fact that you can't do it on an iPhone 5 doesn't matter. In my college, hardly anyone has an iPhone 5, and as Craig/Peter said, when iPhone 5's become "normal" then we may see an updated version coming out. For now, I don't think its necessary.

Any thing to improve on? Maybe the way you load the gimmick. I sometimes have alignment issues but that can be perfected with practice, bunt apart from this, this trick is very good. I will always perform this at college along with the I.D, Extractor (also by Peter), Mullica Wallet and Extreme Burn 2.0. I used to do E.B 2.0 as a finale but now I might mix E.B and iLogo together as a finale.

Overall score from me would be 90%. Needs practice to make it perfect, as with any other trick.

Great overall! Recommended by LIBERTUS!
Message: Posted by: Fire Starter (Jun 25, 2013 04:06PM)
Great reveiw Libertus,thinking of getting this as I am now doing Re-pressure with a OMNI iphone and the spectators iphone ,getting fantastic result from the students at my college where I work plus busy pubs,ITWIST is in my eye sight as well,so could be a really busy night with these 3 effects,all the best.
Shane
Message: Posted by: Mark_Chandaue (Jun 25, 2013 04:45PM)
I don't perform this anymore as I have switched to mentalism but this always got great reactions. I did the load from a TKO 2 and also ditched the gimmick there.

Mark
Message: Posted by: Fire Starter (Jun 26, 2013 01:38PM)
Well I have gone for this and boy did I have to persade the good lady wife into getting it for me as I now have to finish off decorating the bathroom and finishing it this wk end,all the best .

Shane
Message: Posted by: MikeMgc (Nov 19, 2013 12:39PM)
Just picked this up to perform the Ifind Card effect, this is superb.

Some very good handling tips by Greg Wilson on the DVD, which help with alignment and as extra convincers.
Message: Posted by: MikeMgc (Jan 17, 2014 10:54AM)
I also perform a similar routine to libertus with "IFind" as I prefer routines that play very clean with a minimum of sleights.

I find this works very well for IFind and looks more impossible, as you can perform the vanish without actually touching the back of the phone. Its important thought to point out to the Spectator the symbol on the iphone before placing in the pocket. I performed this once to a spectator who didn't even realise that iphones have the logo on the back ! - So the effect was somewhat lost. I usually say something like "is this a genuine iphone ? - You can tell by the logo on the back and point this out".