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Topic: Fortune Donut - different kind of handling?
Message: Posted by: edshern (Feb 23, 2012 11:04AM)
Been thinking about how to make the handling of this routine a bit more involved, so here is what I think is an interesting approach change; Prediction versus mind control!
This trick (and many others) are based on predicting a card the spectator will choose. It seems to me that it would be more powerful to prove that I actually FORCED the spectator to choose a particular card.
So, what if I wrote down 2 predictions? I tell the spec that I am going to force him to choose a particular card. When he chooses a card I tell him that's the one I wanted him to pick & to prove it I turn over my first prediction which says "move two cards to the left" & that will be the actual card.
It would go something like this: I would say "concentrate on the cards, stare at just one don't give me any clue what you are looking at. Got it? Good. No no no, not that one, the one next to it. No no no, not that one, on the other side of it :) Finally, yes that one. Now please turn over my first instruction." Which tells him move 2 cards to the left. Now turn over my other prediction, which says the card name, or red card or whatever.
To me it seems mind forcing is more powerful the just predicting a card, and more ways to have fun with it, and the extra prediction just adds another layer to the routine.
Mind forcing could be used in lieu on predictions on a ton of tricks. I just applied the concept to Fortune Donut because I showed a friend the other day and I just wanted to squeeze more out of it & because it's such a great effect.
Anyway just a thought for the the day. Any opinions?
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Feb 23, 2012 11:25AM)
Hi Ed:

Good thinking on this. I am totally on side with this type of approach. The idea of "mentally influencing", or using psychology or body reading, etc, in my mind mind is more beliveable to the spectator and as a result more impactful. If done properly helps take it out of the realm of being a simple trick. With some thought the doughnut rings could probably be presented as experiment aids in "psychological profiling" experiments or some other made up use. Could house them is a nice small manila enevelpe with "Psychology Test #7 - Mental Influence" labels.

Thanks for sharing that,

Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Feb 25, 2012 09:35PM)
The trick is a good idea, but having to rely on that little bit of paper sticking to the blade of the scissors is kind of daffy. Tenyo put their money into printing the donuts on this one, but I think they could have produced some sort of cutting implement that would have eliminated the need for sticking that scrap of paper on a scissors!
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Feb 27, 2012 04:35AM)
I like these ideas ... . I better buy a few packages of replacement 'donuts' before they get discontinued ... .
Message: Posted by: John Mazza (Feb 27, 2012 01:27PM)
Do the scissors that come with Fortune Donut have "Tenyo" printed on them anywhere?
Message: Posted by: dragonash (Feb 27, 2012 03:59PM)
Yes, they do. "Tenyo" is stamped right into the metal.

On 2012-02-27 14:27, The Amazing Azzam wrote:
Do the scissors that come with Fortune Donut have "Tenyo" printed on them anywhere?
Message: Posted by: Inert (Feb 27, 2012 05:30PM)
Good routining edshern! I've always shied away from this one as I find the card stick-on very unpredictable. Any remedy tips?
Message: Posted by: edshern (Feb 27, 2012 06:29PM)
1- I just make sure the double sided tape is fresh.
2- Half way through the 'cut' I turn the scissors on it's side, and show the spectator the card again & in the process press the card against the scissors.
Message: Posted by: John Mazza (Feb 27, 2012 11:35PM)
I thought I saw it somewhere with the logo on the scissors.

I will have to open that one up because I can use the scissors for Golden Fleece (which I opened) and Ghost Lamp )which I have not yet opened) as well.

It would look nice in my Tenyo case.
Message: Posted by: Inert (Feb 28, 2012 01:02PM)
Thank you Ed for the tips. Very smooth misdirection of re-showing the chosen card. Well done!