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Topic: Broken Sidetracks
Message: Posted by: John Mazza (Mar 10, 2012 05:27PM)
Guys,

I have heard that this trick can break often/easily.

Can you tell me how it breaks and if you think it is feasible for it to be repaired.

Since I enjoy restoring Tenyo magic tricks, I am wondering if this is something that I can do to make some money or trades while I am helping restore someones trick.

LMK
AA
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Mar 11, 2012 04:46AM)
You have to open the trick full (flat) and perform the trick or the gimmick will bend - the instructions mention this. Repairing it would be almost impossible I think.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Mar 11, 2012 10:01AM)
I purchasd my Sidetrack in pretty used condition off of ebay a year+ ago and the seller said "he wasn't sure if it was working properly". It went cheap (under $30) so I took a chance. When it arrived it was not working. I was able to carefully pop the back panel and removed the "binding" on one side. I was able to get the unit woorking smoothly again. I re-sealed the binding with expoxy and replaced the inside black strip with a carefully cut piece of black vinyl tape to match what was there. It still works great and gives me some satisfaction that I was able to "bring it back to life".

I have no doubt that some luck was involved in my repair efforts but it is possible and worth a shot if you can get the effect cheap enough.

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: John Mazza (Mar 11, 2012 11:52AM)
JMT

Thanks for the info on both the Sidetrack and the Dragon Altar coin.

I would love the challenge of fixing a Sidetrack and the satisfaction of making to work again.

AA
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Mar 11, 2012 05:43PM)
Very interesting JM - thanks for that information. A working/like new Sidetrack is now offered on Ebay ... already up to 350 USD!
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Mar 11, 2012 07:11PM)
That's why I thought it was worth a little elbow grease <g>...
Message: Posted by: John Mazza (Mar 11, 2012 07:24PM)
Yes, it is not worth it for someone to pay me to restore their Pillars of Thor, but certainly fixing a Sidetrack or restoring a Space walking coins might be worth it.

A very nice gentleman is sending me a Sidetrack to see what I can do with it. I will let you know how I make out.

AA
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Mar 11, 2012 09:13PM)
Good luck AA... just remember to keep pressure on flap "B" when lifting up on lever "c" <g>
Message: Posted by: stereo (Mar 11, 2012 10:45PM)
Maybe this can help you :
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/sidetrackedok.jpg/
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Mar 12, 2012 08:13AM)
Very cool Stereo!
Message: Posted by: John Mazza (Mar 13, 2012 03:00AM)
Guys,

The broken Sidetrack came in today and it looks real fixable.

I looked at the pictures on Stereo's site but can use some close up pictures of the center of the trick when it it opened. I think I am missing some binding material there.

I can also use a picture on the reverse side where the card is pulled from. I want to see how far out it should extend.

I also don't have instructions. If anyone has them scanned in already and can send them that would be great.

If you can send pictures and instructions to jmazza1@comcast.net that would be great.

Thanks
AA
Message: Posted by: John Mazza (Mar 13, 2012 03:13AM)
Guys in the same box came a broken Color Fantasy.

This will be easy to fix because I just need to re-glue the channels on the side which came loose.

But I also think it is missing a card. In the box was:
Red Square on card
Blue Square on card
Yellow Square on card
Green Square on card
5 Colored Circles on Card
Card with see through circle
Black plastic Sheet with white on bottom
Black plastic holder.

I know for sure I do not have instructions (does someone have them and can you please send them to me at jmazza1@comcast.net).

But when I was looking at Stereo's site I see there seems to be a card with a Yellow Circle. I don't seem to have that.

I don't know if I am missing anything else.

Can anyone help me to put this together into a complete trick?

Thanks in advance
AA
Message: Posted by: John Mazza (Mar 13, 2012 03:15AM)
Also in the same box came a Crossroads with instructions but without packaging.

From the instructions I can see that I am missing two small pencil parts.

Also, I think the gimmick is incomplete. It is a tube, but should there be a false end of a pencil in one end? It looks that way in the instructions.

Can someone please send me a picture (jmazza1@comcast.net) of all the parts that come with the Crossroads?

Does anyone know where to buy the Camel brand pencils that are used in the trick? Does anyone have extra Camel brand pencils?

Thanks in advance
AA
Message: Posted by: xl18 (Mar 13, 2012 06:51AM)
I actually have the Sidetrack instructions scanned in already. I'll send them your way.

It looks like the Color Fantasy you have is complete. The trick does not come with any circle cards besides the one with five circles.

As far as crossroads is concerned, the two small pencil parts were just there for display purposes. You don't need them for the trick. It only came with one pencil for the trick. You use your own pencil for the second pencil.
Message: Posted by: John Mazza (Mar 13, 2012 11:44AM)
Does Color Fantasy come with a stand?
Message: Posted by: xl18 (Mar 13, 2012 11:50AM)
Yes it does come with a small stand to put the cards & holder on.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Mar 13, 2012 12:08PM)
You are lucky Azzam because you receive the 2 tricks I have always search (color fantasy and cross road). Maybe the good karma in action ;o)

For Color Fantasy I think that maybe the photo is wrong. It's not my photo because I don't have this trick. It's internet photo.
But maybe you can make great photo for me with right props ;o)

I have send you instructions.
Message: Posted by: xl18 (Mar 13, 2012 12:14PM)
The only photo that is wrong is the second photo. It looks like they put 2 sets together. You can see there are 2 holders as well. The rest of the pictures are OK.
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Mar 13, 2012 12:24PM)
Crossroads and Color Fantasy are indeed very rare! Good job Azzam :)
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Mar 13, 2012 02:53PM)
Any of you have one of the variant versions of SideTrack that was made for a magic convention? It has the name of the convention printed on the front.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Mar 13, 2012 03:00PM)
If yes I need a photo lol
Message: Posted by: John Mazza (Mar 13, 2012 03:59PM)
My color Fantasy is missing the stand. In the instructions there is mention of a rack, I think I am missing that too.

I am no longer missing the instructions thanks to Stereo.

And it looks like I am not missing the Yellow circle card because there is none.

I still need to repair it by glueing back in place the two channels.

Thanks xl18 for sending Sidetrack instructions.

Yes good Tenyo Karma has been plentiful in the last week or so.

In the same box was an ultra Mint T-1 Thimbles and T-65 Magic Tube plus 5 others.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Mar 13, 2012 04:16PM)
Hey AA, nice find for sure. I bought a Color Fanatsy last year and needed to to a little re-gluing on it as well The plastic is very fragile, all of the pieces were intact. The gaff card (circle) was badly stained but my sign company I deal with made me an exact copy.The stand would not be that hard to replicate from black plastic if needed. I could trace an outline of the piece (there are two which hinge together) if you decide to try that.

On the T-65 Magic Tube is the cover a red cork or plastic cover?

John
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Mar 13, 2012 04:21PM)
Aaahh de cork versus red plastic cover question ... .
John, the original one has a red plastic cover - yours is a copy - very nicely made, but still a copy. Hardly worth anything ... . Just kidding lol ;)
Message: Posted by: John Mazza (Mar 13, 2012 06:31PM)
Mine is black with a red cap.

It was filled with diamonds but I threw them out since they were not original to the trick.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Mar 13, 2012 07:31PM)
LOL Killertweety, I detect a little cork eny....
Message: Posted by: John Mazza (Mar 14, 2012 12:43PM)
Guys,

I got the instructions and information that I needed but still need the following pictures.

Shot of the pieces that come with Crossroads. I am particularly interested in what the back end of the shell looks like.

Shot of the middle section of an opened Sidetrack and the back side with the half oval cutout where you pull the card from.

Thanks in advance for any help,
I will do my best to payback these favors.
AA
Message: Posted by: John Mazza (Mar 14, 2012 04:17PM)
Guys,

I got some good pictures from KillerTweety and Stereo (thanks so much).

I can use one or two more close-up pictures of the middle of the Sidetrack when it is open. It is hard for me to see how the two sides are bound.

Thanks
AA
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Mar 15, 2012 08:41AM)
I see the one on ebay went ofr $407... definitely worth trying to fix that one AA!
Message: Posted by: John Mazza (Mar 15, 2012 09:16AM)
Question

How hard is it to grab the card on the backside by the "cutout" and pull it through?

It seems real hard to do on the version I am working on.

Thanks
AA
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Mar 15, 2012 09:38AM)
Should not be hard to pull out AA. The one that I fixed the gaff part was getting caught and making the card hard to pull out.
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Mar 15, 2012 11:39AM)
Comes out pretty smooth, but you have to 'pull' of course, but not very hard.
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Mar 15, 2012 06:49PM)
No one has a copy of the SideTrack with the variant printing on the front?

Anyone know if Photobucket will work for posting photos here?