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Topic: Happiness is.........
Message: Posted by: edshern (Apr 3, 2012 07:51PM)
Happiness is a package in the mailbox.
Happiness is finding your new Tenyo in it.
Happiness is learning how they do that #@*# trick :)
Message: Posted by: ThatsCool (Apr 3, 2012 08:42PM)
A hot, naked, woman ( @ )( @ ) at your beck and call, or a sealed Floating Lady ;) .
Message: Posted by: John Mazza (Apr 3, 2012 08:51PM)
I agree edshern. The mailman does bring a lot of joy.

I am lucky to have a kind one that looks out for my stuff and enjoys bringing me my booty.

AA
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 4, 2012 04:51AM)
On a first place is finding a hard to find Tenyo for a good price.

Second place is receiving a wonderfull close-up magic trick (Tenyo or other) that blows you away because it looks so d*mn beautifull, the secret is more diabolical then you thought and last but not least you amaze/entertain people with it with almost no effort because it's so easy to do.

On a distant third place is calculating/realizing how much your Tenyo collection is worth seeing the crazy prices on Ebay ... not that I plan to sell my collection EVER (it would also take a VERY long time to sell each trick seperately) but it still feels pretty good that all the work and time put into it for years kind off 'pays off' ;)
Message: Posted by: edshern (Apr 4, 2012 10:11AM)
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On 2012-04-04 05:51, Killertweety wrote:
Second place is receiving a wonderfull close-up magic trick (Tenyo or other) that blows you away
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OK Killer, Name the last 3 non Tenyo, because I wanna buy em.
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 4, 2012 12:56PM)
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On 2012-04-04 11:11, edshern wrote:

OK Killer, Name the last 3 non Tenyo, because I wanna buy em.
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Here are some of my more recent effects that are basically self working, look great and blow (most) people away with the right presentation:

[list]
* Magic Wagon - Majestic Hydro Die (I was lucky to get my hands on one, they sold out for now)
* Jamie D. Grant - Industrial Revelation
* Promystic - Multidimensional (very expensive, but hey, people are paying 300 - 400 USD for some MUCH less good Tenyo's so actually it's a steal ;) ) - no more need for a Diabolicus or anything like that, trust me ;)
* Mikame - Final Penetration
* Dave Powell - Echanted Cube/Ring
[/list]

Choose one ... really, you'll be pleasantly surprised :)

I'll make a list of other items 'Tenyo-like' and post it one of the following weeks - and no, not all of them are expensive at all, it's a coincidence the ones I bought lately were, but they are money well spent because the trade value in the future will be OK.
Message: Posted by: edshern (Apr 4, 2012 09:50PM)
Interesting choices. Just bought IR (haven't even gotten it yet) & just received Enchanted Cube Today.
Final Penetration happens to be next on my list.
Killer, Looking forward to the rest of your list.
Thanks
Message: Posted by: magic patagonia (Apr 5, 2012 07:02PM)
List...list...list!!! :righton:
Message: Posted by: Skyker (Apr 7, 2012 12:59AM)
Killertweety, I just bought Industrial Revelation from your recommandation! Can't wait for your list ;-) Thank you!
Message: Posted by: magic patagonia (Apr 7, 2012 10:17AM)
Killer.....how is the Industrial Revelation gimmick compared with the classic matchbox penetration gimmick?....I mean:

_ works the same way?
_ quality is better?
_ defies detection? (some matchbox gimmicks does not)

thank you
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 7, 2012 12:22PM)
This list should absolutely include Magiro's Block and Wand Mystery - I own different versions of it and love it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSq48aslo0g&sns=em
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Apr 7, 2012 12:45PM)
Magic patagonia, IR is like the matchbox penetration on steroids. Same workings, but much more of an impact due to the sheer size and weight of the metal.
In my opinion, this is one of the few ultra-hyped effects that is as good as it sounds.
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 7, 2012 03:39PM)
Nicolino, you are absolutely right. I have a very old one, small table-hopping size in wood. Great trick!

Another one to buy if you can find it is this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z2HmQi4Dwo&list=PL6F629A6810D921EA&index=1&feature=plpp_video . I believe the version by Cormatches is still availabl. My version is kind of opaque on top so spectators can see the coin really go through the bolt.

MB Magic Works also has a few great tricks:
- the electronic Spirit In The Coffin is almost impossible to figure out for spectators, even magicians. I just bought a spare on Ebay for about 25 USD (used), so they pop up once in a while (make sure you get a working version because my first I ever bought didn't work at all);
- Tongue Tied is also a good one, see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NheHTwP_k80

Actually a lot of Cormatches/Magic Patagonia's tricks in his channel are great but often hard to find.

Magic patagonia, what Wizard Of Oz said. No, the gimmick is almost not detectable (unless you know exactly what and where to look for and even then it's almost invisible) - and with proper presentation all the attention will be on the coin and cardcase, there are a lot of great suggestions here on Themagiccafe. This IS a real 'worker' - you WILL use it, not because the gimmick is so 'new' and 'playable' but because the reactions of your audience make you smile, a lot ;)

I bought a great litle prop a few weeks ago - I can't remember the name of it (I don't have it with me) but it is a kind of penetration effect with dice. It resembles Magiro's Wand And Block Mystery but the dice are intirely closed in a shell ... absolutely great litle gimmick and fully inspectable before and after. I am planning to make this my first Youtube video (give me some time though), in the style of Magic Patagonia ;)

I'll have a list of other items in the next couple of weeks and am happy to share it with you guys - most of them are still available and I will post links of them - but you'll have to be quick because a lot aren't manufactured anymore.

Magic Patagonia, perhaps you can also give a list of your favourites, even if they have not been performed/uploaded on Youtube yet?
Message: Posted by: magic patagonia (Apr 7, 2012 08:50PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-07 13:22, Nicolino wrote:
This list should absolutely include Magiro's Block and Wand Mystery - I own different versions of it and love it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSq48aslo0g&sns=em
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Agree....very unique and effective principle.
Message: Posted by: magic patagonia (Apr 7, 2012 09:27PM)
Killer....my favourite will always be Tenyo....but my curiosity grows faster than 5 tricks per year....so I have to admit that I have had some affairs with other magic tricks during Tenyo development periods ;) .....I would be happy to share a list of my non youtubed favourites......I need to sitdown and check my cabinet and drawers but in the meantime 3 comes quick to my mind (this are not so rare):

_ The Mark by Al Cohen: one of my favourite coin trick.....very ingenious gimmick:
http://www.emagictricks.co.uk/images/Lp0474.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_JjjH5i8Rk

_ Jewel Cupboard from Zauber Butike (OK this is a little bit more rare): the classic block release trick but improved a LOT...in this version the box opens on both sides and you can see the blocks correctly arranged just before the penetration......(you don't need small windows like in the other versions).
http://www.martinsmagic.com/?html=full&nav1=gallery&key=4325

_ Mikame Drawer Box: I always mention this because this is a very different drawer box concept and I'm not sure if everybody knows that. Also it is beautiful.:
http://www.stevensmagic.com/images/medium/products/dovedrawer_MED.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kNV8A5O6-o

Cheers

also....what is that great litle prop that you mentioned????......it's a find or is something more easy to get???....would love to see your video of it:

video!!!...video!!!...video!!!.... :punkrocker:
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Apr 8, 2012 10:29AM)
One of my favorite Tenyo-like trick is Abbott's Hole in One.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmnkY3v8_Uw&feature=endscreen&NR=1
For those of you who do not know how this works, think of it as a giant Tenyo Crystal Pyramid. The workings are almost better than the effect.
Message: Posted by: cyberdave03 (Apr 8, 2012 11:42AM)
[quote]I need to sitdown and check my cabinet and drawers[/quote]

What Magic meant to say was, "I need to drive to my [i]warehouse[/i] to check the tricks". :)
Message: Posted by: edshern (Apr 8, 2012 11:50AM)
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On 2012-04-07 22:27, magic patagonia wrote:
my favourite will always be Tenyo....but my curiosity grows faster than 5 tricks per year...
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On 2012-04-07 22:27, magic patagonia wrote:[/quote]
MP, Very well said.
All, I love these ideas. Thank You! Keep the ideas coming.
I'm sure I will wind up buying most of them.
Too bad some are hard to find.
Ed
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 10, 2012 08:30AM)
I have many non Tenyo favorites as well. One that I think Tenyo fans would enjoy is Campbell's Cube Off...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg8AdLbDhTE

Very easy and very deceptive. Reminds me of a jumbo Tenyo trick. It is so automatic you could have the spectator do most of the work.

John
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Apr 11, 2012 09:55AM)
Here are three great Magiro's effects. These are near impossible to find so I’m very thankful to have acquired them.
1. “Witch's Tunnel" is a fantastic effect. It is similar to Tenyo’s Crystal Cleaver and just as diabolical. See pictures and my review, with description of the effect at the website below. All can be examined before and after the effect. (The website indicates that this is a Howard Schwarzman piece but the original German instructions say this is a Magiro original)
http://www.martinsmagic.com/?html=full&nav1=gallery&key=4085
2. “The Cube Prison” is also a great Tenyo like effect. A 3 sided folding panel with a window at the bottom covers a plexiglass tube that sits on a wooden base (see attached picture). The tube has two metal screws crossed at the top and are permanently locked in place. A spectator selects one of two cubes. This cube is dropped behind the panel and now can be seen through the window. The panel is lifted and the spectators can see that the cube rests inside the tube having magically penetrated the fixed metal screws.
3. “PATERNOSTER” (This was the German name) This is similar to Tenyo’s Coin through Match only better…in my opinion. A coin (half dollar or quarter) is dropped into a plastic coin sleeve that rests on a fixed base. The coin rests on top of the match and can be seen due to the recess at the top of the sleeve (see picture). Magically the coin penetrates the match and can be seen resting on the base through the recess at the bottom of the sleeve. All can be examined before and after the effect.
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Apr 13, 2012 10:08AM)
Here is another Magiro effect worth mentioning (and also near impossible to find):
Bank Note Miracle – This is a penetration effect using a barrowed dollar bill. You have two tubes, two shot glasses that fit inside the tubes and a square plastic plate. A glass is placed inside one of the tubes and the plate is placed in top of it. The 2nd glass is now placed on top of the plate. A barrowed dollar bill (whose serial number has been recorded) is folded, wrapped in tissue paper and a rubber band and paperclipped together. This packet is placed inside the top glass and the 2nd tube place over it. Abracadabra! Remove the top tube and the bill has disappeared from the glass. Remove the plate and the lower tube. The bottom glass now has the tissue paper wrapped around its mouth and held in place with a rubber band. The barrowed bill is inside the glass. A very cleaver method indeed!

Kirk
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 13, 2012 03:34PM)
Those tricks seem amazing Kirk - thanks for the information!

By the way if ayone is interested in buying Magiro's Coin And Bolt or Magiro's Block And Wand grab one here: http://www.cannon-secrets.de/Index.html - I've just bought one of each and the seller is a pleasure to deal with! Highly recommended :)

I think I'll start another thread for these Tenyo-like items ... seems there is a lot of interest.
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 13, 2012 03:39PM)
David, did your copy from Cannon come with a wooden paravent? Because the one I ordered there years ago was made of plastic although they advertised it as wooden.... :(
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 13, 2012 03:51PM)
To be honest the postman (actually woman) brought the package today but I wasn't home. So I don't have the tricks yet ... . I have a (very) old miniature version made out of wood and perhaps this one is made from white plastic as the one in Cormatches video ... (is it plastic Roberto?). His website does mention it is wood indeed ... I'll let you know monday :)
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 13, 2012 03:59PM)
Thanks. Hope you won't be disappointed, just in case....
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 13, 2012 04:07PM)
Oh great David... here is something else I now need to order because of you <g>. I have Magiro's Psychic Pen's which are cool. Bought them from Hank Lee's many years ago.

John
Message: Posted by: magic patagonia (Apr 13, 2012 10:22PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-13 16:51, Killertweety wrote:
To be honest the postman (actually woman) brought the package today but I wasn't home. So I don't have the tricks yet ... . I have a (very) old miniature version made out of wood and perhaps this one is made from white plastic as the one in Cormatches video ... (is it plastic Roberto?). His website does mention it is wood indeed ... I'll let you know monday :)
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mine is white plastic
Message: Posted by: magic patagonia (Apr 13, 2012 10:24PM)
[quote]
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2. “The Cube Prison” is also a great Tenyo like effect. A 3 sided folding panel with a window at the bottom covers a plexiglass tube that sits on a wooden base (see attached picture). The tube has two metal screws crossed at the top and are permanently locked in place. A spectator selects one of two cubes. This cube is dropped behind the panel and now can be seen through the window. The panel is lifted and the spectators can see that the cube rests inside the tube having magically penetrated the fixed metal screws.
......
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great contribution....thank you!!!....the Cube Prison is complete new for me....
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 16, 2012 10:53AM)
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On 2012-04-13 16:59, Nicolino wrote:
Thanks. Hope you won't be disappointed, just in case....
[/quote]

I'm not dissapointed, but it is indeed white plastic. The quality feels fine though. Mine is exact the same as the one on Cormatches video, as expected.
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 16, 2012 10:59AM)
Honestly, I was a little disappointed not only because they listed it as wooden made but they also showed (and still show) a picture of a wooden paravent.
Nonetheless it's a fine version, no doubt about it, and quite affordable as well. Have fun with it!
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 16, 2012 11:05AM)
I have orderd this as well. I was wondering if the photo shown is the stage version versus the close-up version?
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 16, 2012 11:30AM)
I believe the photos on the website are both the stage version yes - that version is probably made out of wood.
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 16, 2012 12:33PM)
Have any of you guys heard of the other tricks there? "Pure Telepathy" sounds a bit like de Cova's Symbolicus, imho.
And "Any Number"? Could be something like Dick Christian has re-released last year....
Any thougths?
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 16, 2012 01:14PM)
Never heard of them, but I do own Symbologic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_qDjSPfSrE (a great trick by the way - hihly recommended), which uses the same principle as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShMp22hokgM - an Alan Warner effect that I think has just been re-released in some form by another manufacturer (viking?).

I have seen the video of Pure Telepathy and it is an entirely different trick it seems. I don't know about the other you mention, but they also seem to use another method. I realize after typing this that actualy I can't help you in any way ;)
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 16, 2012 01:58PM)
*LOL* David - believe it or not, it helps!
I have owned "Symbologic" in the past, and it's a completely different principle than "Symbolicus"

Could you forward me the video link of "Pure Telepathy", please?
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 16, 2012 02:22PM)
I thought Pure Telepathy might be like Danny Archer's "Animental...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=684FaP7_PK4

There have been several versions of this on the market over the years.

Hank Lee has several Magiro Tricks listed... Pipe Dream, Disk of Mind, Atomic Die, Psychic Pens (I have that one). I believe Hank was the only North American dealer to carry these items.

John
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 16, 2012 02:25PM)
Boy, hasn't this principle been exploited to death already...?? :(
At least here in Germany, any children's magic set has a set of cards relying on that idea.
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 16, 2012 02:39PM)
Pure Telepathy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgAtlHfy3f8

About 'Animental', ok trick and enternaining, but absolutely nothing new indeed :)

That 'Pierced' trick from Magiro looks interesting, I have asked the German site I mentioned a few posts back about it but he didn't have them anymore. Does anyone own this trick and if so, what's your opinion? Looks more a puzzle to me but that doesn't have to mean it's not good.

Pipe Dreams also looks interesting, anyone have this?
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 16, 2012 03:12PM)
Yes indeed... the idea has been used in many forms. I used the idea in a Power Point presenatation a few years ago using different company product shots and it went over quite well.

Looked at the video Kilertweety but the effect is not that clear (typical of many videos)

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 16, 2012 03:22PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-16 15:39, Killertweety wrote:
Pure Telepathy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgAtlHfy3f8
[/quote]
Somehow I strongly doubt this clip shows the Magiro trick....imho it's the title of a DVD with different tricks. A friend of mine has it, IIRC, so I will as,him tomorrow.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 23, 2012 03:39PM)
I just got in Magiros "Wand and Block Mystery" today. What a clever piece! The method is much simpler (but brillant) than the complicated solutions I was coming up with in my mind. Have a few other Magiro items on order and am looking forward to seeing more creative thinking from this magic inventor.
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 23, 2012 03:57PM)
Glad you're happy with it! I thought it'd just fit in here perfectly....
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 23, 2012 06:03PM)
Yes, I cannot imagine any fan of Tenyo not liking this. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

John
Message: Posted by: stereo (Apr 23, 2012 06:33PM)
Impossible for me to figure out how it work, really mind blowing.
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Apr 23, 2012 09:19PM)
Can anyone shine some light on who Magiro is, is he still alive, what country he is from, what tricks he has put out and where to find them? I just did a lengthy web search and came up empty.

It seems like most of his really good stuff is made in small quantities. If you’re not lucky enough to happen across one, well…just forget it :-/
I have the few that I mentioned earlier and one more on the way.

Kirk
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 01:15AM)
Few Magiro "if it is the right Margiro" YouTube videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ymB531HzYQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSq48aslo0g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z2HmQi4Dwo



Few Margiro tricks "is German Magician?"

http://www.martinsmagic.com/full/close-up-magiros-magic-safe-zauber-butike__3556.htm

http://www.martinsmagic.com/?keywords=Magiro&html=gallery&nav1=new&flag=Magiro&tightsearch=1

http://www.maxello.com/index.php?c=57&p=9201&q=9601

http://www.world-of-magic.co.uk/Magicians_Dream_by_Magiro__i201.asp

http://www.mylovelyassistant.com/products/view/4138


This is some of what I found in a few minutes search if it is what your looking for there you go if not oh well I tried.

Richard
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 24, 2012 01:26AM)
Correct, Magiro is a German inventor and producer, currently living in Bavaria (Rosenheim). During his career he has put up lots of clever tricks to the market.
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 24, 2012 04:27AM)
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On 2012-04-23 16:39, J M Talbot wrote:
I just got in Magiros "Wand and Block Mystery" today. What a clever piece!
[/quote]
In case someone's interested here are some pictures of my old original Magiro version, made entirely of wood:

[img]http://www.abload.de/img/20120424_104145upq7t.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.abload.de/img/20120424_104048j4o4a.jpg[/img]
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 24, 2012 04:42AM)
Yep, that's the one I also have, but my dice are from wood - by which I mean they also really look like wood, they're not painted in black.
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 24, 2012 05:11AM)
Interesting, are the instructions German? Did they come from Böttcher?
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 06:02AM)
That is a very cool never seen that before.
I couldn't have the plastic one after seeing a wood one.
Might change my mind though depending on wood never becoming available.

Thing very noticed is the wood folding panels appears by construction of the folding hinge and thick front panel adding to depth of the side panel coupled with large black bead located between the slot and rear circle corner decoration make the slot appear more centered on side pieces. Light years less noticeable that the slot is not centered.

The plastic one in the video has deep side panels, very narrow front, no set back hinge look because or paper thin front, with slot very close to the front giving suspicion something is sliding back and needs cover. Even if that is not the way it operates. Not a good look and would think after spinning it around would really be notice, someone would point that out. Not a square tube, has no back, slot way close to the front. The wood one makes a huge cover up to these points to me. Why some decoration wasn't applied to the white plastic one to help cover this up is unforgivable to me. Even a peal and stick decal would have helped.

Richard
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 24, 2012 06:15AM)
Yes, Richard, the wooden one is much more classy!
Hence [url=http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/search_post.php?topic=461016&forum=258&post=7499883]my disappointment[/url] when realizing the new one doesn't come with a wooden panel. I also like the mysterious decoration on mine.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 06:25AM)
Still have not figured out how for sure it works but the offset slot to me is giving something away to even the most casual observer. LOL
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 06:38AM)
I think I got it I'll PM you to ask : )
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 07:04AM)
I love it when I'm right! :banana:
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 07:45AM)
This prop must be smaller than the closeup makes it look.
How large are these blocks, base, and panels front and sides, length of slot, length and diameter of the rod?

If I had measurements of each I could make a wood one comparable to the original that would be nice.

One thing I would add to mine would be little brackets or blocks to insert a pin into the panel on both side to steady it from lifting or shifting once placed and would make the routine a little longer also.

You can PM me if you don't want to post it.

Or tell me to get lost and buy the plastic one. LOL
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 24, 2012 08:36AM)
All I can say is that I fooled a number of magic friends with the plastic version last night... the wooden one looks great but the plastic version is still a fooler. Mr Wizard please do not take offense to this but I am a little uncomfortable with the open discussion on building your own from what you have learned here.

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 08:51AM)
Well I haven't learned anything that I haven't figured out myself you can ask the one I PMed if this isn't true he only said I was correct, and I can guess at the size by the video if I wanted to. Just thought I would ask if the wood one is larger than the plastic one.

There is nothing wrong with building your own props that is what separates the men from the boys in my profession make your own tools.

Ok please nobody tell me the size on this post.
That is why I asked to be PMed if someone wanted to tell me it wouldn't be a problem.
Notice I didn't tell how it was done just speculated at an obvious part that is glaring to anyone. Don't hate me cause I have a keen sense of observation. ;)

Richard
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 24, 2012 09:15AM)
Richard, I meant no offense to you. I like to support magic creators and think they should be rewarded for their ideas. Perhaps out of fairness to Magiro you use PM's for any further information as you suggested. I applaud you for working out the MO... I was way off on this one.

John
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 09:37AM)
No offense taken at all.
I try to be as vague as possible in a public forum on how something is done.
I was blown away too by the effect!
I just used logic how is it possible to do this I finally came to only one conclusion.
But you can never be 100% sure on anything.

Very good trick and glad to have seen it performed even though in the video it was a little clumsy.
I have never seen this before and would love to have it in wood but appears not available.

So If I want one I would have to build it.
Would take less than a day once everything is here.
I am very handy like that.

I may add Margiro Coin and Block Mystery is Super Spike in wood that is no secret. And very well done I may add! ;)

Richard
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 24, 2012 09:37AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-24 07:02, MrWizard wrote:
The plastic one in the video has deep side panels, very narrow front, no set back hinge look because or paper thin front, with slot very close to the front.
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Richard, let me add that the off-center issue/feature you mention (for whatever reason it is there...:)) [i]might[/i] be noticeable when the panel is watched flatly but not really in performance unless you don't care for your angles (see my first picture).
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 09:59AM)
This is true just the wood one doesn't look so much off as one not made like yours.
It's just back to me liking wood better than plastic if I can get it that is my preference.

Would like to see a video done with the wood model.
Very cool.

Richard
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 24, 2012 10:00AM)
Looking at the Coin and Block video I was assuming the MO was a different than Super Spike given the use of the signed coin... could be wrong and have been many times in the past!
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 10:01AM)
I would also suggest anyone that likes this effect and don't like making things to please buy the plastic one to support the maker :)

Can you link to where you purchased yours from so we all know where to get one?

Richard
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 24, 2012 10:10AM)
Purchased mine many years ago from Hank Lee's! Also bought the Milton Bradley Magic Works version when it came out in 1995.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 10:21AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-24 11:00, J M Talbot wrote:
Looking at the Coin and Block video I was assuming the MO was a different than Super Spike given the use of the signed coin... could be wrong and have been many times in the past!
[/quote]

Yes it was signed ok in the video but he signed it himself ;)
Maybe it is real magic who knows!

There is a way to do that with someone else signing it but not both sides I can think of and takes more than one time through.
Once without the spike in it to show it goes straight through then add the spike and the signed coin comes out at proper the time.

And could be wrong has happened many times. : )

Richard
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 10:24AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-24 11:10, J M Talbot wrote:
Purchased mine many years ago from Hank Lee's! Also bought the Milton Bradley Magic Works version when it came out in 1995.
[/quote]

Hummm I thought you just got this I guess it was something else.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 24, 2012 10:26AM)
Probablly right Richard... I guess I was hoping for real magic <g>
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 24, 2012 10:29AM)
No my most recent buys were Crossroads and Match and Flower... Super Spike was one of the few I wisely bought at original retail prices! <g>
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 10:34AM)
No I mean I thought you just bought the plastic Wand and Block Mystery.
So confused you bet.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 10:38AM)
Where can the plastic one be bought.
I looked all I seen was sorry no dealers found for this item.
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 24, 2012 10:46AM)
The Coin and Bolt Mystery uses an intirely different principle then Superspike guys, you'll be pleasantly surprised if you get one :) It really IS the signed coin that comes true ... now how is that possible? :P

The Coin And Bolt Mystery and Wand And Block mystery are stille available here: http://www.cannon-secrets.de/menu.html :) I posted the link somewhere a short while ago. I advise whoever likes self-working tricks to buy both - you won't be dissapointed. And they will become unavailable in the future. Act NOW ;)
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 24, 2012 10:46AM)
Sorry, Richard I am with you now... yes I just received the Wand and Block Mystery.. bought it right from the source:

http://www.cannon-secrets.de/diabolic_close.html

Very fast delivery to Canada from Germany.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 10:51AM)
"It really IS the signed coin that comes true"

wow that is real magic then hahaha
Message: Posted by: stereo (Apr 24, 2012 10:55AM)
The Coin and Bolt Mystery do not impress me, I don't see in detail the video so maybe I'm wrong but I think about Zone Infinity...
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 10:56AM)
Unfortunately I get this when clicking link to Coin And Bolt Mystery on that site.

Not Found
The requested URL /Coin.html was not found on this server.
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 24, 2012 10:58AM)
Stereo ... no, the Coin does not 'pass' the bolt on top or bottom or side ... the tunnel is just wide enough for it to pass ;) No Zone Infinity (or Coin Through Match for that matter) tricky-tricky ;)

Mr Wizard: http://www.cannon-secrets.de/coin.html - the link had Coin with a capital and that doesn't work.

I'm going to stop here now because I have a feeling that I expose a bit, for more information pm me.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 11:04AM)
Cool that worked how much is € 44.90 in US money LOL
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 24, 2012 11:06AM)
Much more, Richard! :)
($60 plus shipping)
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 11:12AM)
That's still a good price less than I expected to hear.
Shipping to USA will be the shocker I'm sure.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 11:23AM)
On the The Great Wand & Block Mystery the picture looks like it all wood just not the front part.
Do the sides come off of this or are they attached to the base.

This is completely different than the crappy one I have been looking at on youtube!
It is horrible!
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 24, 2012 11:24AM)
It's flat and doesn't weigh a lot ... won't be that much I think, unless the seller insists on having complete and accurate tracking.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 11:32AM)
"On the The Great Wand & Block Mystery the picture looks like it all wood just not the front part"

Is the picture correct to what it does look like when you get it maybe the sides are not wood either now?
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 24, 2012 11:32AM)
Shipping was very reasonable... total with shipping to Canada was $72 (Canadian) and I received it in 4 business days. Clearly Richard does not like the plastic version <g> but I am very happy with mine... the blocks are wood if that helps <g>.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 24, 2012 11:34AM)
Richard, I believe the photo is the more expensive stage version.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 11:36AM)
So then the picture is not correct it is all plastic but the blocks are wood.
Just when I thought there was hope the rug is pulled out again haha
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 24, 2012 11:42AM)
Correct... after all this hoopla I just ordered the Coin and Block (hope I get the plastic version!) ... must stop ordering magic... must stop ordering magic.... mu
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 11:45AM)
Ok I'll wait till you get yours and tell me if it is wood or plastic LOL
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 11:53AM)
Wow in 2 more legitimate posts I will be upgraded to a regular user this one won't count :(
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 24, 2012 11:57AM)
Go for it...
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 11:58AM)
Drum roll please
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 24, 2012 11:58AM)
Coin and BOLT (why do you keep saying 'Block' JM ;) ) is wood, just got mine a week or two ago. I also have a very early version of this trick, by Magiro too, and that one is some kind of hard plastic but the nice thing is the plastic in the middle is semi-transparant so you can show the coin going through the bolt - I'll post some pictures in the near future.

Mr Wizard, the Block and Wand is plastic, but it is not crappy in my opinion. And you can always make a 'frame' yourself out of wood if necessary, or paint or cover the one that is provided to look more authentic ;)
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 12:05PM)
"Mr Wizard, the Block and Wand is plastic, but it is not crappy in my opinion."

Ok it just looks so flimsy in the youtube video I have been looking at maybe there is a better one you can show me.
That surely can't be the only one on there I hope.
Link to one that looks good being done please.

And this should be the upgrade post right here.

Ta Dah.... nothing in my head.... presto! :dizzy:
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 24, 2012 12:09PM)
This is the one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSq48aslo0g - but I think that's the one you mean too. Uploaded by our beloved performer of magic tricks Cormatches :applause:

Check his channel for more of these goodies.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 24, 2012 12:19PM)
... I keep saying block because I am a blockhead! Thanks for correcting me.

Congrats Richard for being regular now!

John
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 12:24PM)
"This is the one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSq48aslo0g - but I think that's the one you mean too. Uploaded by our beloved performer of magic tricks Cormatches"

Yup that's the same one I have been seeing alright!
I've seen all his videos and they are not too bad.
But is it just me or should he remake this one again before he starts drinking? HAHAHAHA
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 12:39PM)
If the cover attached to the base somehow it would be light years better.
Maybe if the sides were attached and the front was able to slide on and off that would keep it from rocking and rolling no matter how much anyone had to drink. LOL
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 24, 2012 01:07PM)
Wow that was a show stopper.
Thanks for all the advice I'll disappear now :)
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Apr 24, 2012 09:15PM)
The Block and Wand was also being sold by Elmwood magic under the name “Pentro Blocks. It was made of wood but was lesser quality than the plastic one. No credit was given to Magiro and it is no longer available from them (most likely due to copyright issue...I would guess. See the attached jpeg). The holes and slits on the side panels were pretty much dead center on this one.

Here are two other nice Magiro effects that I was lucky enough to find;
Hydro Die & De-Materializer. Actually, they’re both the same effect oly one is large and the other small. They can both be seen here.
http://www.martinsmagic.com/?nd=full&key=4317&myaf=af_mm
http://www.martinsmagic.com/?nd=full&key=3833&myaf=af_mm
Hydro Die YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp35FW6L04s

Kirk
Message: Posted by: Izzy Jay (Apr 24, 2012 10:51PM)
Interesting effect! And good looking props too!
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 25, 2012 09:25AM)
Hi Kirk... thanks for sharing those great Magiro finds... they are definitely cool looking effects. I know that Hank Lee carried some Magiro items other than that I think these effects saw very limited release in N.A. In the past Howie Schwatzman was probablly the main source.

John
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 25, 2012 02:42PM)
Here are my pictures of the old Magiro Coin And Bolt and Wand And Block.

[b]Coin And Bolt Mystery[/b] - the special thing is it is made out of hard plastic and is nicely decorated. The 'shell' where the coin goes in is semi-transparant brown. You can not see it in the picture but if a coin is placed in and moves through the bolt it is visible untill it gets in the square where the bolt is.

[img]http://www.tenyo.be/images/coinandbolt.JPG[/img]

[b]Wand And Block Mystery[/b]- the exact same as Felix's version, apart from:
- the magic wand which is black with golden ends and
- the blocks have a purple color where the stick goes in/around the holes.

[img]http://www.tenyo.be/images/wandandblock.JPG[/img]
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 25, 2012 02:47PM)
...plus the corners of your cubes are 'sharper' (not rounded).
Thanks for the pictures!
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 25, 2012 02:51PM)
Yes, and I forgot to tell the blocks are made from wood like I mentioned before.
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Apr 25, 2012 02:55PM)
Well, your pics show pretty well that the cubes are wooden and their colour fits perfectly the tone of the base, right?
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 25, 2012 03:06PM)
They are actually a litle bit another color. Perhaps the stand was polished/treated with colored varnish so the wood looks darker, or the wood used is different, I don't know. Anyway, like said before, both the old wooden or the more recent plastic version are great effects anyone who loves these kind of miracles should have in his or her repertoire.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 25, 2012 03:54PM)
Great pictures... the semi transparent feature is a nice touch on the Coin and Bolt (said it right this time!). I will give you $40 for both props (you pay shipping) this deal will expire at midnight... let me know <g>.

John
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Apr 25, 2012 08:30PM)
I am considering maybe purchasing Coin and Bolt but I hesitate because the method seems obvious to me (though it does look like a quality made piece). Just like with my Tenyo collection, I only invest in the pieces I find intriguing. Of the Magiro pieces that I own, the methods have been quite ingenious. So, for those of you out there that own Coin and Bolt, please tell me that I would be pleasantly surprised by the method so that I can feel good about digging into my pocket and spend my hard earned cash. :)
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Apr 25, 2012 08:37PM)
Hey Killertweety,

I had the opportunity a few years back to purchase a Coin and Bolt just like the one shown in your picture. It’s a beautiful looking piece….I should have purchased it when I had the chance.
Does anyone out there have any idea how many of each effect Magiro produces? Since they are so hard to come by, I would guess not many.

Kirk
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Apr 25, 2012 11:34PM)
Surprise.......Now there is a plastic item to my liking :)
Looks great and the transparent area is really good idea.
Like to have both Coin and Bolt in plastic and the wood one.
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 26, 2012 02:03AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-25 16:54, J M Talbot wrote:
I will give you $40 for both props (you pay shipping) this deal will expire at midnight... let me know <g>.

John
[/quote]

Darn! Missed it ... . Ah well ;)
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Apr 29, 2012 04:54PM)
Here are a few other non Tenyo Items that I think are worth mentioning.

Mark Leveridge’s - WAND-ER-FULL. This is a beautiful close up effect involving various colored cigarette sized magic wands and a brass tube/wand holder. The wands change places between the tube and your shirt pocket and other magical effects. Unfortunately, it is no longer available. Why is it all the good stuff “Vanishes?” :-(

From Tricks Company of Japan is a very rare item called “The Magic Pierrot.” (See attached images)
There are two effects possible:
1. A white clown is inserted into a frame and becomes a colorful clown (not using the method you may think).
2. A Colorful clown is inserted into the frame and is then fixed with two clamps. The clown is then magically freed from the clamps and pulled from the frame.
Message: Posted by: magic patagonia (Aug 3, 2012 11:50PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-11 10:55, kwarren wrote:
Here are three great Magiro's effects. These are near impossible to find so I’m very thankful to have acquired them.
...
2. “The Cube Prison” is also a great Tenyo like effect. A 3 sided folding panel with a window at the bottom covers a plexiglass tube that sits on a wooden base (see attached picture). The tube has two metal screws crossed at the top and are permanently locked in place. A spectator selects one of two cubes. This cube is dropped behind the panel and now can be seen through the window. The panel is lifted and the spectators can see that the cube rests inside the tube having magically penetrated the fixed metal screws.
...
[/quote]
...anybody has been able to put his hands on one of these?
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Aug 5, 2012 10:18AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-29 17:54, kwarren wrote:
...
Mark Leveridge’s - WAND-ER-FULL. This is a beautiful close up effect involving various colored cigarette sized magic wands and a brass tube/wand holder. The wands change places between the tube and your shirt pocket and other magical effects. Unfortunately, it is no longer available. Why is it all the good stuff “Vanishes?” :-(

...
[/quote]

Thanks for the suggestion. Is there any info on this trick available? I can't find anything.

And I have the same question as Magic Patagonia :)
Message: Posted by: edshern (Apr 27, 2013 09:21AM)
I was looking for some new ideas and came across this post.
I was actually amazed at how many of your ideas I had bought.
Probably would have bought more but some are impossible to even find on google.
Oh well, here are the tricks you guys suggested.
How many have you bought because of the recommendations?

Abbott's Hole in One
Campbell's Cube Off
Dave Powell - Enchanted Cube/Ring
Jamie D. Grant - Industrial Revelation
Jewel Cupboard from Zauber Butike
Magic Wagon - Majestic Hydro Die
Magiro - Automatic Transformation
Magiro Banknote Miracle
Magiro: Coin and Bolt Mystery
Magiro's Block and Wand Mystery
Mark Leveridge’s - WAND-ER-FULL
MB Magic Works - Spirit in the Coffin
Mikame - Final Penetration
Mikame Drawer Box
Promystic - Multidimensional
PATERNOSTER
The Cube Prison
The Magic Pierrot
Al Cohen’s The Mark
Witch's Tunnel
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Apr 27, 2013 09:50AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-13 11:08, kwarren wrote:
Here is another Magiro effect worth mentioning (and also near impossible to find):
Bank Note Miracle – This is a penetration effect using a barrowed dollar bill. You have two tubes, two shot glasses that fit inside the tubes and a square plastic plate. A glass is placed inside one of the tubes and the plate is placed in top of it. The 2nd glass is now placed on top of the plate. A barrowed dollar bill (whose serial number has been recorded) is folded, wrapped in tissue paper and a rubber band and paperclipped together. This packet is placed inside the top glass and the 2nd tube place over it. Abracadabra! Remove the top tube and the bill has disappeared from the glass. Remove the plate and the lower tube. The bottom glass now has the tissue paper wrapped around its mouth and held in place with a rubber band. The barrowed bill is inside the glass. A very cleaver method indeed!

Kirk
[/quote]

Somewhat similar to the trick above, Ickle Pickle put this trick out years ago, and it kills:
http://www.tannens.com/shop/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=6816
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 27, 2013 12:47PM)
Yes Wizard that is a great effect, used to perform that quite often. Works great for kids and adults. Need to dig it out again.

John
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 27, 2013 01:35PM)
Great suggestion Wizard, thanks! It seems a lot of versions are for sale. Which one do you think is the best one?
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Apr 27, 2013 02:03PM)
My pleasure Killertweety. I would go with the Ickle Pickle model. It's well-made, and fairly priced...although I no longer see it on their website. I wonder if they discontinued it?
Message: Posted by: edshern (Jul 5, 2014 09:12AM)
On the first page of this thread Kwarren mentions;

“The Cube Prison”
“PATERNOSTER” (This was the German name)

Anyone know where I can find these. Tried Google without luck.

Thanks

PS- Any new thoughts on alternative ideas???
Message: Posted by: saverle (Mar 13, 2015 06:05PM)
[quote]On Aug 4, 2012, magic patagonia wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-04-11 10:55, kwarren wrote:
Here are three great Magiro's effects. These are near impossible to find so I’m very thankful to have acquired them.
...
2. “The Cube Prison” is also a great Tenyo like effect. A 3 sided folding panel with a window at the bottom covers a plexiglass tube that sits on a wooden base (see attached picture). The tube has two metal screws crossed at the top and are permanently locked in place. A spectator selects one of two cubes. This cube is dropped behind the panel and now can be seen through the window. The panel is lifted and the spectators can see that the cube rests inside the tube having magically penetrated the fixed metal screws.
...
[/quote]

I don't have this one, but .... in the book Magiro Magie which I have, it is explained how it works, together with many other items... The problem for many of you is, that this book is written in German. Not for me, but for US citizens a reason to skip this book.