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Topic: Matrix effects
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Sep 8, 2001 11:55PM)
I was kinda curious as to what some of you here think of the Matrix effect, and which version you like to use. :wavey:
Message: Posted by: KirbyC (Sep 9, 2001 07:22AM)

I use two different matrix effects, each for different occasions.

One of them I made up, the other I got from Paul Cummin's video, Up in Smoke.

The other, which I use for Valentine's day and any other romance-themed occasion is called Matrix in Love, and is up on my website.


Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Sep 9, 2001 08:45AM)
That "Love" theme is a great idea Kirby!

And by the way WELCOME to the Cafe! :wavey:
Message: Posted by: Jamie (Sep 9, 2001 10:08AM)
My favorite matrix effect is that of David Williamsonís from his book Williamsonís Wonders.

The coins collect in one corner just as any other matrix effect, but in this one the cards stay at least 2 inches above the table.
Message: Posted by: KirbyC (Sep 9, 2001 03:07PM)
Thank you!

I feel very welcome, and I think I'm gonna like this place. Especially all the little dancing smiley faces







yup.... I'll like it a lot......
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Sep 9, 2001 10:41PM)
Hi kirby, glad you like the smilies! :)

Welcome to the Cafe Jamie, we're glad to have you with us!!! :rotf:
Message: Posted by: Steve Landavazo (Sep 10, 2001 11:14AM)
I've got to agree with Kirby C.-Paul Cummin's version on(Knihc-A-Knihc with the instant reversal has got my vote!,...

No. 2 Would have to be, "Shadow Coins" Ammar...

Steve :kermit:
Message: Posted by: Mike Giusti (Sep 12, 2001 12:16PM)
Colombini's versions of the Matrix are outstanding, with the coins almost appearing all under one card, but instantly separating under each card again as in the beginning of the effect.

Gotta love anything that uses what the spectators think they know against them...
Message: Posted by: MagicMan (Sep 14, 2001 01:31PM)
I perform the version I posted on my site. It's really simple, but I prefer the fanning cover, rather than the slide cover (when you pick up the coins). Just check out the manual under Coins and click on the Matrix.
Message: Posted by: Dorian Rhodell (Sep 15, 2001 11:16PM)
You know, J.C. Wagner has a pretty good version called "Poor man's Matrix" with a Chop cup style ending.

Take care,

Dorian :wavey:
Message: Posted by: Moffmo (Sep 16, 2001 03:55AM)
I have the "Coin card" gimmick by Danny Archer. I use this to produce four coins, then I do a normal coin matrix. It really adds to the effect, and the coins appear from nowhere!!



Magic is not only an art But an addictive hobby
Message: Posted by: KirbyC (Sep 16, 2001 05:14PM)
Is this gimmick any good? I've heard some questionable things about it. I like your idea though.

Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Sep 17, 2001 12:40AM)
Danny gave me one of his "Coin Cards" a long time ago. With practice(is there any other way?)this little device can be quite handy!

Just my two cents. :bigdance:
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Sep 20, 2001 08:59PM)
Thatís very kind of you. :)


Life is not a problem to be solved...

but a mystery to be lived.
Message: Posted by: Robin Parker (Sep 24, 2001 07:29PM)
I've used several matrix routines over the years but one which I enjoy is by Bob Kohler, published in John Bannon's "Impossibilia". Check it out, but I dont recommend the book, just some of it's routines. In all, I dont think the book is very good.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Sep 28, 2001 06:23PM)
I like the one that's in Henry Hay's

"Amature Magician's Handbook" seems to impress people!
Message: Posted by: David Neighbors (Oct 1, 2001 11:24AM)
Hi Kirby,

Yes itís great, but itís just about the same as Don Englandís Silver Streak. Itís in Apocalypse Vol.3 no. 12. Don uses tape to make the gimmick. Danny uses glue. It looks nicer but no one is going to see it anyway.

Donís inspiration came from A gimmick of Paul Harrisí. So Danny did not change it that much. So what you have is A nicely put together gimmick of Donís Silver Streak.

Best David Neighbors

The Coinjurer

Posted: Oct 1, 2001 12:38pm
Hi Steve,
Matrix is my first love! I have only A 100 or so handling for it.
So stop me when you see one you like.

You look in just about any of my books and you will see 1 or 2 routines for it. 4-2-1 or no cards. International, reverse, backfire, changer, tri-changer, you name it I have most likely got a handling for it. So yea you might say I like it. Thanks.

Best David Neighbors
The coinjurer
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 1, 2001 11:51AM)
Gee David, I'm lucky just to remember a couple(well). You sound like a very prolific performer, perhaps some day we might meet...I would enjoy that very much. :bigdance:
Message: Posted by: David Neighbors (Oct 1, 2001 04:48PM)
Hi Steve,

I canít remember that many (the 100) But I have come up with that many. :P if they are not in print they're in my video note books. If you are ever in the Denver Co. Area, let me know and we will get together. Thanks.

Best David Neighbors

The Coinjurer
Message: Posted by: Seanamon (Oct 5, 2001 02:12PM)
I have used Aldo Columbini's "Snappy" as seen on Ammars Money Magic Video.

I've also grown quite fond of Lee Asher's Hole In The Head finish for a matrix routine as found on "Well Done". As a guy who does mainly cards, I don't do a lot of coin magic, but I love Dai Vernon's "Queens Soiree" card matrix.

Message: Posted by: rickmagic1 (Oct 10, 2001 05:17PM)
I think from a lay-personís perspective, "Shadow-coins" would have to be one of the best. No cards, only a handful of coins. If you do it the way Michael teaches it, it gets a great response.

I have my own presentation, but do use his patter. What follows is what I love to see when Iím finished. :wow:
Message: Posted by: KirbyC (Oct 12, 2001 12:29PM)
Well David, and I guess everyone else, I wasn't talking about Knihc-a-Knihc.

I was refering to "Top Billing", the effect using bills instead.

Really, it's a pretty basic matrix, but it has a nice ending and the bills are logical.

Message: Posted by: Spydur (Nov 2, 2001 08:34AM)
I think that you all should check out Jim Paces matrix routine on his Restaurant Workers tape, "Trick from my Lecture" It is awesome, and very difficult. It has a great matrix flow with a KILLER ending! Check it out.

Message: Posted by: Magical Dimensions (Nov 20, 2001 05:47AM)
I found that a good matrix effect is good as gold if done correctly. The ones that I feel have class and a punch are

1. Ammarís two card matrix

2. David Neighborsís "Slow Motion Matrix"

3. Robert Bengelís "Bill Matrix & Solid

Gold Matrix :dance:

Posted: Nov 20, 2001 7:00am
I am new to the Cafť, and was just looking around. I was happy to see your name. I used to live in Colorado, Springs. I used to visit the magic shop there. Ken Simmons ran it back then. It has been a few years since Iíve been there.

I was wondering if you ever got around to putting together all your books into a large one? I have a few of your books and love them all.
Message: Posted by: David Neighbors (Nov 20, 2001 11:26AM)

The Hard Bound should be out sometime next year hopefully. The last edit is being done right now. It will have 8 updates from the past notes. The rest will all be new stuff.

Thanks for asking. I now have A web site itís


If you ever get back to Denver let me know thanks.

Best David Neighbors

The Coinjurer
Message: Posted by: Brian Proctor (Nov 25, 2001 10:59PM)
Michael Ammarís Shadow Coins is the greatest effect that I can think of today concerning matrix illusions. Its so easy to do also! :) :xmastree: :goof:
Message: Posted by: cardguy (Nov 28, 2001 08:40PM)
John Kennedyís "Impossible Matrix" is absolutely fabulous. It involves the use of a simple yet diabolical gimmick that truly makes the effect look impossible. And if you use Kennedyís routine, you end absolutely clean.
I also agree that Shadow Coins is great because it is so visual.
Message: Posted by: Lonnie Dilan (Dec 10, 2001 05:06PM)
I Love matrix effects and I have even come up with a few crazy ones of my own. I really like using just 2 cards cause itís just fun to be doing all that dirty work. And I love doing matrix effects with my hands and no cards cause you can be caught without your cards or your coins one day and itís not a big deal to borrow for quarters, pennies or nickels from a person and you go about your business with thier coins and no cards. Dean Dill has a pretty cool effect called no extras that I do all the time. Itís on his first video called Intimate Miracles. Dean is a matrix freak! Check out his stuff.

Message: Posted by: Scott F. Guinn (Dec 10, 2001 07:45PM)
I have several matrix routines with different kickers in my book, "Great Scott! It's Coin Magic!"
Message: Posted by: Lonnie Dilan (Dec 11, 2001 09:02AM)
Well, I love Chink-a-Chink type effects too!!

I love all coin magic. Have you guys hugged your coins today?
Message: Posted by: Chad Sanborn (Dec 11, 2001 12:43PM)
Rune Klan is a Danish magician who works wonders with coins. On his 1st video he does a matrix with 3 coins. It is absolutely the most clean and visual matrix you will ever see! (I think anyway). I do it if the situation is right. I also do my own version that uses an offbeat principle (not gimmick!) to move the coins. It can be performed surrounded and with people burning your hands. It is a 'knack' thing. But it will fry anyone who sees it.

Message: Posted by: Dorian Rhodell (Dec 13, 2001 10:40PM)
Hi guys,

I donít know how many of you are in the L.A. area but if you are and you really like Matrix style or Shadow Coin routines, then thereís a guy you should probably watch. His name is Luis Solorzano. Itís the way that he gets the coins into proper position to be moved around magically that is what is interesting. It will most definitely take you to the cleaners. Luis showed Deanís matrix to Dean Dill and and even Dean was taken in. He hangs at the Castle. Check him out!

Take care,

Dorian Rhodell
Message: Posted by: spfranz (Jan 29, 2002 08:51PM)
Personally, I think the original is still the best. Lots of great versions out there to do for other magicians, but the original has it all for lay people. Short, sweet, clean, and to the point.

Watching Al Schneider do it is like watching real magic.
Message: Posted by: Tom Wolf (Jan 30, 2002 08:25AM)
Brother magi,
Here is an easy challenge for you.

Try to develope a matrix with one card.

Card is placed face down on the table.

On the table are seen gold half dollars. Magi picks up one of these and in a waving gesture towards the face down card, the coin vanishes from his hand and appears under the card.

This is repeated 3 more times and all this is done with one hand.

For a finale, the left hand slowly removes the card showing the final 4 card appearance and replaces the card under the 4 gold half dollars.

Magi asks the spects if they would like to see how it is done.

He slowly removes the card from underneath the coins and a silver dollar has appeared from "nowhere".

It is a thing of beauty to watch in slow motion.

I just combined moves from a lot of magicians and added one of mine for the final load.

Looks like real magic, which is why I really like it.
Message: Posted by: Brian Proctor (Jan 31, 2002 02:46PM)
Another matrix effect that I like is the Two card reverse matrix. That one really hits people upside the head.
Check it out on the third volume of Michael Rubenstein's Knockout Coin Magic Video.
Message: Posted by: Fredrick (Feb 8, 2002 05:01PM)
I am surprised that no one has mentioned Al Schneider's original routine. If you have access to the March (?) 2001 edition of Genii, please go back and study his handling. I believe you will find, as I did, that what I was performing was far from what was intended...
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Feb 8, 2002 07:41PM)
What a wonderful list of Matrix effects. I am familiar with most of the routines noted here. I remember the first time I saw Al Schneider perform the Matrix and thinking how beautiful and simple to follow it was. I especially like Paul Cummings version using borrowed bills as the cover (the version I tend to perform the most).

One worker not mentioned so far is David Neighbors. He has published a couple of nice variations on the Matrix theme. One is actually very direct, very magical, and routined for people with small hands (too small for a clip or matrix steal). I taught it to my 8-year-old godson to good results.
Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Feb 8, 2002 11:06PM)
Thirty years ago, coin matrix was THE trick that every magician did.
But even then it bothered me:
What was this supposed to mean?
Why are the coins laid out in a square?
So I came up with the coins in a diamond shape and adapted the patter from the classic Abbott and Costello routine Who's On First?
It appeared in my second One-Man Parade in the Linking Ring magazine of August, 1968 (the one with a MUCH younger me on the cover).
I still think it's an effective routine (he said modestly); it plays equally well for magicians and lay people; and there is some logic in why you are doing it (rather than just a 'look what I can do and you can't' sort of thing).
Peter Marucci
Message: Posted by: Matt (Feb 9, 2002 04:43PM)
In regard to meaning . . .

Greg Webb (I think) put a matrix routine on allmagic.com that used bottle caps instead of coins. I thought it would be fun to do something along the lines of this, this is how (I'll pick on Peter) Canadians teach their kids to count, introducing the cards and some Moosehead bottle caps. Then things get confusing, as they generally do after too many Moosehead. I never really worked it up, but it's been in the back of my mind/notebook.

Message: Posted by: spfranz (Feb 9, 2002 08:09PM)
Actually, Fredrick, I did mention it three posts before yours :)

I agree with you one hundred percent.

Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Feb 9, 2002 11:04PM)
For the benefit of the non-Canadians here, in Matt's post "Moosehead" is a brand of beer in Canada.
In the U.S., I believe, it is a felony.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Peter Marucci
Message: Posted by: Darrin Cook (Feb 10, 2002 08:20PM)
My personal favorite is Bob Kohler's reverse matrix from Impossibilia. It uses only four ungaffed coins and two cards. It is definitely a money trick and in addition to frying people, has earned me numerous tips.
Message: Posted by: Fredrick (Feb 12, 2002 02:22PM)
On 2002-02-09 21:09, spfranz wrote:
Actually, Fredrick, I did mention it three posts before yours :)

I agree with you one hundred percent.



Apologies, I must have been scrolling faster than my eyes can read. Thanks for the 2nd!


While on the list of matrix effects, there is the reverse matrix theme. I believe started by Paul Gertner, then amplified by others. There is four coin version in CoinMagic.

Another worth considering is the All-American Matrix in CoinMagic. It uses four different coins.

Peter's question is interesting. What is the theme or frame for the effect? For me, it is one of the only silent close-up effects I perform. I shut up and let the magic happen...
Message: Posted by: Michael Rubinstein (Feb 12, 2002 08:09PM)
You might want to check out my Quadra coin reverse matrix from my original videotape series made in 1985 in West Germany (the series that predates the L&L re-release). This is a much cleaner handling, and can even be done with a penny, nickle, dime, quarter, and 4 business cards! I perform it as an "observation test" in my show, using 4 different half dollar sized coins. The routine is also written up in my fourth set of lecture notes. - Michael Rubinstein
Message: Posted by: MAGICTOM (May 22, 2002 09:23AM)
My personal favorite Matrix is by Dean Dill,
no extra coins, and can be incorperated to a backfire or standard matrix... Very easy and very clean....I have never been called on the method.. However, I have not seen many of the Matrix effects mentioned in previous posts here, Maybe I need to check those out.
take care
Tom :)
Message: Posted by: Brian Proctor (May 22, 2002 09:25AM)
I finally mastered Rubenstein's Two Card Reverse Matrix, what other reverse matrix effects exist?
Message: Posted by: Scott F. Guinn (May 22, 2002 11:07AM)
I have a couple in my book, [b]Great Scott! It's Coin Magic![/b]
Message: Posted by: Kaliix (May 22, 2002 11:07AM)
Daryl does a pretty standard matrix routine on Coin Classics Vol.1 from Steven's Magic. I like his get ahead method better than the one I use and he has some nice subtleties for showing the fronts and backs of the cards.
Message: Posted by: Platt (May 22, 2002 02:32PM)
I've messed with a lot different routines, including Daryl's, Columbini's, and Dean Dill's, but always go back to the very, very basic routine. Does anyone know the name(and inventor) of the middle finger/thumb move to get ahead? It was the first Matrix move I learned and I always assumed it was the most common method of getting ahead. Is it?
Message: Posted by: Dr. JK (May 22, 2002 03:13PM)
To Coolmoney84:

David Williamson has a Reverse Matrix routine in the book "The Magic of Michael Ammar." I believe it is simply called just that, "Reverse Matrix." Hope this helps!

Message: Posted by: Greg Arce (May 24, 2002 06:29PM)
Okay, for some killer routines in Matrix you have to check out my friend Shoot Ogawa. He will be performing this weekend at the convention in Miami and then in two weeks at the convention in Minnesota. He does over a dozen variations. Including a one handed, two card version with a kickback. And recently he has added a double matrix: eight coins, four cards, and doing four coins at a time, simultaneously, with each hand... and a surprise ending. Some time in the summer we will be working on putting together several videos on his routines. The videos will include subjects such as Matrixes, Resets, Purse Frame, Coins Across, & Rope routines... he has dozens of variations on all the above.
Message: Posted by: Dan LeFay (May 27, 2002 04:07AM)
Yep, Matrix, in the right circumstances, is a very magical effect. I did several versions of Schneider, Williamson and even tried Gertner, until I saw Dean Dill's Coinmagic 2000. Don't know if it's the style, the routine or the passion...probably all of it but Dean does Real Magic!
Now I like to "jazz" with all of his routines along with some ideas of my own.

...And then Dean introduced me to Armando Lucero in Vegas.
Incredible his name did not pop up yet. He might be kinda underground but watch this man!
He kicked my ... along with Paul Harris', tommy Wonder's and Vanni Bossi's! :wow: :wow: :wow:
Message: Posted by: John Pezzullo (May 27, 2002 04:50AM)

Allan Ackerman wrote the following in the August 2001 issue of "MAGIC":

"Armando Lucero is one of the best close-up magicians I have ever seen."

High praise from someone who has seen many close-up magicians over the years.
Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (May 27, 2002 05:19AM)
Are you referring to the Al Schneider/Derek Dingle pickup move?
Peter Marucci
Message: Posted by: MattSedlak (May 27, 2002 12:15PM)
Four Coins In The Countin' from Dingle's Deceptions is probably the most perfect of the matrix routines I have seen, and I have seen a lot. First, the handling makes it seem impossible that any other coins are being used. Second, it is a very well thought out routine and only needed very minor modifications to fit my style. Third, it has a great kicker ending, the silver dollar really kills them because of the suspicion that you create for the last coin. Not to mention the steal and load is very deceptive. Finally, not only does this routine play well for laymen but it also fools most magicians, who I guess didn't read Dingle's Deceptions because they thought the material was too hard.
Message: Posted by: marcusone (May 28, 2002 07:52AM)
Although I have only tried a few matrix effects, i must admit I love John Kennedys impossible matrix. Using just two cards its simple and clean from start to finish. I like being able to show the cards both sides and hands completely empty after each transposition.The gimmick does the work and with some polished handling you are left to concentrate on presentation and entertainment. Suits me !
Message: Posted by: Lonnie Dilan (May 28, 2002 03:11PM)
Dean Dill has some of the cleanest non gimmick matrix routines around...2 cards or 4 cards...he's the man!!!
Message: Posted by: Tony (May 28, 2002 05:14PM)

Looking forward to your project with Shoot. I've seen him do amazing stuff at Hollywood Magic (a few versions of the matrix, ribbon through 3 Chinese coins--yes only 3 coins).

Message: Posted by: Lonnie Dilan (May 28, 2002 06:17PM)
Man, oh man...I totally forgot to mention Shoot. This guy is just not human!! He had my brain bleeding when I first saw his matrix routines.

I wasn't drinking that night, but I had to be carried out of the Castle.

He's a super bad mamma jamma!

Guys....just keep your eyes peeled for Shoot's video. It's going to be awesome.

you dig?
Message: Posted by: Geoff Williams (May 30, 2002 10:41AM)
Re: John Bannonís book "Impossibilia":

On 2001-09-24 20:29, Robin Parker wrote:
I dont recommend the book, just some of itís routines. In all, I dont think the book is very good.

Good one, Robin. Discourage others from reading it so we can keep all those goodies to ourselves.

VERY clever!
Message: Posted by: Geoff Williams (May 30, 2002 11:12AM)
On 2002-05-28 19:17, Lonnie Dilan wrote:
man o man...I totally forgot to mention shoot. This guy is just not human!! he had my brain bleeding when I first saw his matrix routines.

I wasn't drinking that night, but I had to be carried out of the castle.

GREAT! Shoot is one of the featured highlights at the "Close-Up and in the Parlour" convention here in Minneapolis next weekend. I'm looking forward to seeing this guy in action.
Message: Posted by: Greg Arce (May 30, 2002 06:51PM)
On 2002-05-30 12:12, Geoff Williams wrote:
On 2002-05-28 19:17, Lonnie Dilan wrote:
man o man...I totally forgot to mention shoot. This guy is just not human!! he had my brain bleeding when I first saw his matrix routines.

I wasn't drinking that night, but I had to be carried out of the castle.

GREAT! Shoot is one of the featured highlights at the "Close-Up and in the Parlour" convention here in Minneapolis next weekend. I'm looking forward to seeing this guy in action.

You won't be dissappointed. He just came back from a Miami convention where he was a hit. Some of the other comments from other posters can attest to his skill. When he works he has a rule of not using any extra coins or gimmicked ones so you'll see stuff that looks impossible and when he tells you how it's done you'll faint. At the convention please go up to him and have him do what we call the Coca Cola routine. He will keep sipping a coke and do incredible onehanded effects as you hold onto a purse frame. The guy is a walking miracle and I'm very proud to have him as a friend.
Message: Posted by: Tony Chapparo (Jun 2, 2002 01:12PM)
I have been using Dean Dill's stuff mostly.

I really like the thought that he puts into each of his effects.

Message: Posted by: phonic69 (Jun 3, 2002 12:53AM)
I know it's been said before, but I'll second David Williamsons matrix from Williamsons wonders, the cards are buckled which I believe really adds to the illusion.

Message: Posted by: David Neighbors (Jun 23, 2002 10:05PM)
Hi Cool,
If you are looking for Two card reverse Matrix. I have A full Reverse ( IE. You lift the leader Card and show all Four coins to be there Before the Reverse!). I also have A two Backfire Reverse Matrix. And one that changes to China coins at the end! Along with A One card Reverse And A one card backfire. And A no card reverse. And tons of outher stuff. Stop me when you see one you Like :). Thanks!

Best David Neighbors
The Coinjurer
Message: Posted by: Geoff Williams (Jun 24, 2002 02:15PM)
I saw Shoot Ogawa in action at the recent "Close-Up and in the Parlour" convention here in Minneapolis and it was fabulous.

He performs a progressively-difficult Matrix routine first using 2 cards, then only 1 card and, finally, with no cards at all.

Looked like real magic to me.
Message: Posted by: Greg Arce (Jun 24, 2002 11:12PM)
He also does an eight coin, four card matrix which happens on his left and right. He is doing a four coin matrix with each hand simultaneously and there is a kickback on one of the sets. He did this for Dean Dill and Dean looked as if a steam roller had hit him.
Message: Posted by: Tom Wolf (Jun 25, 2002 06:00AM)
On 2001-09-09 00:55, Steve Brooks wrote:
I was kinda curious as to what some of you here think of the Matrix effect, and which version you like to use. :wavey:

[/quote]Hi Steve,

I put together a very nice routine using one card and "4" half dollars seen on the mat before starting the routine.

Using an empty hand (right hand), the coins are picked up and spread on the table. Next one of the coins is picked up and with a magicial jesture tossed towards the card on the table. The tabled card is turned over and a coin is found underneath. The right hand is shown empty once again. The last three coins appear one at a time with the same hand doing the moves.
Lastly the left hand moves the card aside and a large coin appears from underneath the same card.
All this from moves that most of us already do.

Message: Posted by: MAGICTOM (Jun 25, 2002 08:43AM)
I have been looking for a way to incorperate a jumbo coin into my matrix routine, My favorite is Dean Dills Simple matrix with a backfire, I have it down... I was thinking about a kids routine with 4 half dollars,
using the patter of the 3 little pigs, but in my story there are 4 little pigs, you state that "in my story, my 4 little pigs have names", and you use some names shouted out by the kids.. you do a matrix, and act like the big bad wolf is blowing down their house, and they run so fast to the brick house of their brothers that you did not see them.... I want to end the trick with a jumbo finally, placing all four cards in the center of the matt, and stating " the 4 little pigs thought about building one big house that they all could live in, but decided not to, for it would leave too many places for the big bad wolf to hide".... pick up the 4 cards on the table to reveal a jumbo coin hidden beneath them.. This has just been floating around in my head for a while, and thought I would post it up. let me know what you think, and if you have any ideas on how to get that jumbo under the cards at the end...I will keep working on it
Tom Defrange
Message: Posted by: magicmanr (Jun 25, 2002 09:24PM)
I think "Shadow Coins" is a brilliant, very visual Matrix routine....Watch Michael Ammar do it, and you'll have to pick your jaw up off the floor...
Message: Posted by: wert (Jul 1, 2002 10:40AM)
On 2002-06-25 09:43, MAGICTOM wrote:
I have been looking for a way to incorperate a jumbo coin into my matrix routine,
Why not use the Paul Harris effect "Giant Killer Coin" from the art of astonishment books? It's a good simple matrix with a giant coin climax that is really good. And the initial "steal" of the coin is one of the best I've seen...
Message: Posted by: MAGICTOM (Jul 2, 2002 01:37PM)
I will check that out first chance I get
Tom :)