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Topic: Three-ball Gospel Illusion
Message: Posted by: Preacherman (Jul 17, 2012 08:03AM)
I am looking to purchase Andre Kole's Three-ball Gospel Illusion and had a couple of questions...

For use as a sermon illustration in a sanctuary about 45' wide and about 70' long:

1) do you think the 4" balls would be visual enough or should I go for the stage sized 7" set?
2) is the stand a better presentation than without? I've seen a Youtube video of the routine done with the skewer & stand and a routine done where the balls are threaded onto a rope...just can't decide if the extra money for the stand is necessary if the rope routine has just as much kick.

We're having a special service in September and are encouraging folks to invite unsaved friends and family to join us. I'll be preaching on freedom from sin. Last year I incorporated an escape from chains, this year thinking that I'll use the Three-ball routine. Any other recommended routines?

Thanks.

JD
Message: Posted by: jamiedoyle (Jul 17, 2012 11:19AM)
I have both sizes and after obtaining the larger set with the stand, it's all I've used (with the exception of taking the smaller size on a missions trip as it packed smaller)
The larger size with the stand will allow you to play in any sized room with out needing audience volunteers to either hold the rope or the rod (sometimes using volunteers for your final effect before giving a salvation invitation can be distracting)

I will say however, when on the missions trip, I used the smaller 4" ball set in front of a crowd of 500 kids and it went over well.

Ok - so, maybe I'm torn as to which one is better... I still like the bigger one with the stand.
Message: Posted by: magicman812 (Jul 17, 2012 09:23PM)
I only have the larger stand/set and it works great and I really like it. However, I will say as a word of caution that it is fairly large and takes up quite a bit of space. Not a huge problem but just something to think about before you make your purchase. For my performing needs, I probably could have gotten by with the smaller set. Either way, it is a great visual way of clearing explaining the Gospel!

Blessings,
Andy
Message: Posted by: Preacherman (Jul 19, 2012 06:43AM)
Thanks guys. I'm definately leaning toward the larger set. I've seen a performance with the balls on a rope rather than the rod and placed on the stand - so now I'm trying to decide: stand or no stand.

I don't do shows, per se, so packing isn't really an issue - but cost is something that I'm trying to keep down.

If you've seen (or performed) this with and without the stand can anyone lend some insight into pros and cons of each way?

In order to ensure that I have the trick in time, I think I want to order in just a couple of days.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jul 20, 2012 05:02AM)
I have a set (4") with stand but I think it is other than Kole. I'll sell it for "not much" is you are interested -- and can dig it out for photos if there is any interest.

I acquired this for a Minister freind who had no problem perforing it for a congegation of 150
Message: Posted by: MagicBus (Jul 20, 2012 12:28PM)
MagicBob does the Andre' Kole Three Ball Illustration at the 15 minute mark on Now That's Magic! #1 found at http://www.ChristianMagician.org I have all three versions of the trick- small, medium and large. My super large set (giant Nerf type balls) does not have a stand even- so not as easy to operate as it is a little tricky to pull the middle ball off the rod with the cross while holding the metal rod with the other hand. So I prefer the mid-sized set that still comes with a wooden holder/stand. Andre' himself uses a giant set in his own program, but has his own custom built stand for it if I recall. I also thought, and I could be mistaken on this, the two remaining balls in his stage set magically come together at the end of the routine (so he does not push them together with his hands).
Message: Posted by: MagicBus (Jul 20, 2012 12:59PM)
FYI: Andre's personal web site is found at http://www.andrekole.org His products (including the Three Ball Illustration) can be found for sale under "Resources" at http://www.andrekoleministry.com
Message: Posted by: Preacherman (Jul 20, 2012 05:32PM)
Funsway,

I'll send you a PM and we'll talk about the set you would be willing to sell.

JD
Message: Posted by: Magicforim (May 2, 2013 01:48PM)
I don't get this. It looks so see thru, I have a hard time "believing" it. It just looks like a sponge ball with a slit in it so you pull it through the bar. Can you show the balls as ungaffed before the trick? If not, it just seems so not magical. It's a good illustration, but do you really get ooohs and ahhhhs from the crowd when you do it? Or do they just sit there saying, "so the guy pulled a sponge ball with a slit in it off the bar. Big deal. I admit that I don't know for sure how this trick is done, but without handing the balls out for inspection, it just seems like everyone is going to come to the same conclusion; thinking they know how it works, even if they don't which is just as bad.
Message: Posted by: MagicBus (May 3, 2013 04:40PM)
The thing about this "illustration" that is most important is the content- I saw it used by very effectively by Mr. Sharpe of Operation Mobilization, as just one example. I have done it several times at the Kalamazoo Gospel Mission- it holds people's attention while explaining the basics of the Gospel. That being said, I still had several people wonder "how I did it" last time used it at the KGM. MagicBob has used it in India for years. So again, it is not a stunner/unbelievable magic trick, but more of an evangelistic tool.
Message: Posted by: tboehnlein (May 5, 2013 11:23AM)
From the stage the balls do not appear to be soft it really looks quite good, I had thought of purchasing one at one time but came up with my own process & method.