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Topic: New David Regal DVDs!!!
Message: Posted by: desprado2 (Oct 18, 2003 09:03AM)
On L&L website they are now selling the new David Regal four DVD set. It has material from [i]Star Quality, Constant Fooling[/i] 1 & 2 and some unpublished work. Anyone have any information on these, as I know they will be awesome?
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Oct 18, 2003 09:42AM)
If you like David Regal's previous work, you will love these as well. It is more David Regal, and to be honest I can't get enough of him performing his unique brand of magic.

More David, more David, more David!!! :dancing:

He is such a strong performer with such a creative mind which shows in all his work. This is not the B-list material or the leftovers from his past work. This is more of David's awesome magic.

Get them!

Cheers,

Tom
Message: Posted by: shomemagic (Oct 18, 2003 12:09PM)
Now my Christmas wish list is complete!
Message: Posted by: D J Hawkins (Oct 18, 2003 02:47PM)
For someone who has no experience of David Regal (not having read any books or seen any previous videos or DVDs), should I buy this latest set, or start with the first volumes? Looks like there might be quite a lot of overlap.
Message: Posted by: Steve Pellegrino (Oct 18, 2003 04:57PM)
I have watched all four of these DVDs and they are awesome! I had never seen David perform before, so I didn't have any expectations. David is funny, the plots are original and the magic is incredible. I have also seen the John Guastaferro DVDs and if you like David Regal, you will love "John G". Regal recommended John to L&L.

One last mention is that David Regal is going to be a special guest for a week on the L&L discussion board sometime in the middle of November and there will be a chance to win a set of the Regal DVDs. Dates to be posted soon!
Message: Posted by: thk5353 (Oct 18, 2003 09:16PM)
I think there has been a post about this DVD set from the past. From what I can remember, some of these materials use gaffed right?
Message: Posted by: Robert Sixx (Oct 18, 2003 09:38PM)
This is a brand new set of DVDs!
Message: Posted by: Big Jeff (Oct 19, 2003 02:09AM)
How many of these effects require gimmicks? I have his other set and I love them.

Thanks,
:kermit: :kermit: :kermit:
Message: Posted by: Mistro (Oct 19, 2003 11:32AM)
I saw the demo of this DVD set and I'm going to buy it right away! I will also buy the new Ammar and the Brainstorm set. :bigsmile:
Message: Posted by: mwolfire (Oct 19, 2003 06:31PM)
The website lists the original source for each item on the DVD. They do look to contain a good smattering from his published and unpublished works. They're high on my list.

For those of you lucky enough to have [i]Star Quality[/i] (the book) I would be interested to know if these DVDs contain the best of [i]Star Quality[/i] or the second tier material?

Mark
Message: Posted by: bekralik (Oct 20, 2003 08:14PM)
I don't think there is any such thing as second tier material in any of his books. I think you'll be safe.

Brian
Message: Posted by: Jason London (Oct 21, 2003 10:32AM)
Greetings,

Just wanted to let everyone know about the special that Hocus Pocus Magic is having:[list][*]The new David Regal four volume set is $99.00 with free shipping in the U.S.

[*]The new Michael Ammar is $25.00 with free shipping in the U.S.

[*]The new John Gustaferro two volume set is $52.95 with free shipping in the U.S.

[*]Also, the new [i]Color Fusion[/i] DVD is $25.00 with free shipping in the U.S.[/list]You asked for free shipping, you got it! This sale ends this Thursday at 5 pm PST. Please call 1 800 407 4040 to place an order or for any questions.

Thanks! :band:
Message: Posted by: nimrod (Oct 21, 2003 06:14PM)
I had more than enough from the last trilogy. Thanks, but no thanks.

Nimrod, Israel
Message: Posted by: Steve Pellegrino (Oct 21, 2003 07:32PM)
[quote]
On 2003-10-21 11:32, Jason London wrote:
Greetings,

Just wanted to let everyone know about the special that Hocus Pocus Magic is having:[list][*]The new David Regal four volume set is $99.00 with free shipping in the U.S.

[*]The new Michael Ammar is $25.00 with free shipping in the U.S.

[*]The new John Gustaferro two volume set is $52.95 with free shipping in the U.S.

[*]Also, the new [i]Color Fusion[/i] DVD is $25.00 with free shipping in the U.S.[/list]You asked for free shipping, you got it! This sale ends this Thursday at 5 pm PST. Please call 1 800 407 4040 to place an order or for any questions.

Thanks! :band:
[/quote]
FYI—L&L will do price matching. Drop them a line and let them know you found a cheaper price and they will sell it to you for that price. That's for any L&L product.
Message: Posted by: AlexWong (Oct 21, 2003 07:48PM)
:lol: Looks like it's turning into a price war, hahaha.

I believe no one has answered the question about extra gaffs required by the DVDs?
Message: Posted by: Steve Pellegrino (Oct 21, 2003 09:17PM)
Isn't that what magic retail has turned into, a big ol' price war? That's the way it is!

Alex, to answer your question about extra gaffs—I'm not sure. I'm probably the only one here who has seen these, except for Tom Cutts who was there when they were shot. I wasn't familiar with David's material before I saw these. My original post was to give my reaction which was—they were great—very entertaining, great concepts and if you're a Regal fan, get these!!! I haven't watched the explanations yet.

If you (or anyone familiar with David's material) go to the L&L web site and go past the home page to see the description of the effects presented on the DVDs AND if you've read David's books, you'll know the answer regarding gaffs.
Message: Posted by: psychic (Oct 21, 2003 09:34PM)
Owning the trilogy of David's previous set, there's no reason for me not to consider this one. It's going to be good. Now I got to send my telepathic wish to Santa Claus!
Message: Posted by: Peo Olsson (Oct 23, 2003 02:13AM)
As I am a big fan of David Regal, I have already purchased these DVDs from L&L Publishing. Knowing his material by heart now, and seen what effects are included in these DVDs, they were a must! And yes, I think some of the effects need gaffed cards.

By the way, anyone of you guys have a spare copy of [i]Star Quality[/i] to sell?
:bikes:
Message: Posted by: Lonewolf123 (Oct 23, 2003 04:03AM)
Where can we see the demo of these new DVDs?
Message: Posted by: Jim Tighe (Oct 23, 2003 04:04AM)
A-1 Magical Media (Maxwell) is selling the previous Regal three video set (VHS) for $39.95 until Oct. 31. Quite a bargain.
Message: Posted by: cardguy (Oct 24, 2003 12:55PM)
If Hocus Pocus offered those prices first, then they deserve the business more. Hocus Pocus purchased those DVDs from L&L anyway, so no one is losing here.
Message: Posted by: Steve Pellegrino (Oct 24, 2003 03:17PM)
It's not a matter of who "deserves" the business more, it's a matter of convenience for customers and it's a matter of the customer deciding who they want to order from. Some customers are loyal to one dealer, some are loyal to several. If someone is going to place an order through L&L, why not ask for the price match? Why shouldn't L&L price match on their own products? Some people like the L&L products and will never shop with them because they either have a local shop they like or an favorite internet dealer. Those that do like to shop with L&L "deserve" a chance at a price break if they're willing to ask.

BTW - Hocus Pocus more than likely did not purchase the DVDs directly from L&L, they purchase them from Murphy's Magic.
Message: Posted by: Review King (Oct 24, 2003 06:42PM)
I ordered mine from Hocus-Pocus. L&L is a first-rate place but I love Paul Gross and his team. Friendly, fast, etc. I don't want to nitpick over a few pennies.

If the creator sells things, I buy from them.

Chris
Mesa, Arizona
Message: Posted by: RINO (Oct 28, 2003 01:01PM)
Where can I see demo of [i]Magic of David Regall[/i]?

Are there only card tricks???
Message: Posted by: Steve Pellegrino (Oct 29, 2003 03:21PM)
David Regal will be a guest on the L&L Discussion Board from Monday November 17th-Sunday November 23rd. We will also be having a contest with the prize being a set of David's new DVDs [i]Premise, Power & Participation[/i].

That week will give everyone a chance to ask David about the material on the DVDs (and anything else you want to ask him).
Message: Posted by: Jason London (Oct 30, 2003 12:48PM)
Greetings,

We now have IN-STOCK the new David Regal, John Gustaferro and Michael Ammar DVDs.

The offer still stands for anyone wants to purchase them from Hocus Pocus Magic. [list][*]The new David Regal four volume set is $99.00 with free shipping in the U.S.

[*]The new Michael Ammar is $25.00 with free shipping in the U.S.

[*]The new John Gustaferro two volume set is 52.95 with free shipping in the U.S.

[*]Also, the new [i]Color Fusion[/i] DVD is $25.00 with free shipping in the U.S. [/list]1 800 407 4040
:cake:
Message: Posted by: Nir Dahan (Oct 30, 2003 03:18PM)
I join the question above. Are there only card tricks? Or is the majority card tricks?

I love David Regal (enjoyed his previous set) but I will not put my money into more card tricks...
Message: Posted by: magicah123 (Nov 4, 2003 09:18AM)
What skill level are these DVDs?

Thanks
Message: Posted by: Steve Pellegrino (Nov 4, 2003 11:30AM)
There is a detailed list of the effects on the DVDs and a description of each effect at [url=http://www.llpub.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1923]this link on the L&L site.[/url]

The majority of effects are with cards. There is also: coins, a great chop cup routine, a variation on the effect Room Service and David's advice and creating and constructing routines (that is why it's called [i]Premis, Power & Participation[/i]!).
Message: Posted by: Peo Olsson (Nov 4, 2003 03:00PM)
I am STILL waiting for these four DVDs to arrive from L&L and I ordered them the 18th last month, hmmm...

And I will review them as soon they get here.
Message: Posted by: Steve Pellegrino (Nov 4, 2003 03:07PM)
L&L started shipping these out last week. Depending on what overseas shipping method you chose will determine when you get them.
Message: Posted by: NJJ (Nov 6, 2003 01:53AM)
What's going on guys? I'm in Australia and I have mine!

They do recycle a LOT of material from Constant Fooling and Close Up and Personal so if you have the books and have what you want from them, the dvds won't add too much more you you need.

The material is VERY strong but he does rely a lot on gimmicks and one offs that are more suited to a close up show or a dining table magician. As a pro, I glossed over a lot of the stuff that requires alot of setup or big props that I can only for one effect. E.g. one effect requires a block of wood!

However, he is an original thinker and most of his ideas are new so I am sure that with watching and rewatching there is a lot I will learn.

I would suggest buying vol 1. then buying the rest.

3 1/2 stars from me.
Message: Posted by: RevJohn (Nov 6, 2003 02:12AM)
Having all of his other stuff (published material, not his effects), I highly anticipated enjoying these four DVDs. And I wasn't disappointed.

I really like the way he divides his material, and how he chose to go about what he would put on each volumn. First Premise, Second Power, Third Participation, leaving the fourth to rap it up.

Although I own Star Quality, I was really glad to see his Oil and Water effect on these tapes. It reads well, but is so much more helpful to see it performed when learning it.

I also enjoy seeing some of the effects that I am not to sure on, and how they play big!

Lastly, and for those of us that have been watching L&L videos for a while will enjoy this, David has some fun with David (the regular L and L video guy).

Enjoyed them all!

John
Message: Posted by: therntier (Nov 6, 2003 07:24AM)
I would love to hear which of the effects played bigger on the video that you anticipated from his printed books.
Message: Posted by: Steve Pellegrino (Nov 6, 2003 08:03AM)
[quote]
On 2003-11-06 02:53, Nicholas J. Johnson wrote:
They do recycle a LOT of material from Constant Fooling and Close Up and Personal so if you have the books and have what you want from them, the dvds won't add too much more you you need.
[/quote]

A few comments about this - It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who buys these what material is included. If you went to the L&L site to read about these, you would see that the description for every effect shows which book it came from and that there are a few effects that are unpublished. I don't know if every site that sells these uses our description from our site, but if you have David's material, you would no doubt recognize the titles of the effects and would know the printed material you have is presented on these DVDs.

There are also those who, even though they have the printed material, appreciate seeing the creator actually perform the effects.

The bigger picture with these DVDs is to focus on elements of presentation.
Message: Posted by: Peo Olsson (Nov 6, 2003 10:42AM)
Allright, I got them today!

Thank god Im not working this week.

Now I know what I'm gonna do this weekend, exept for beign here at the Café' of course...

The material on these dvd's includes routines from Penumbra, Star Quality, Close Up and Personal, and both volumes of Constant Fooling. Plus some previous unpublished material.

And as an bonus is David's "After Hours", which goes in the same vein as Bill Malon's "Sam The Bellhop", and Simon Lovell's "Who Killed Lilly Longlegs?"
Message: Posted by: Lonewolf123 (Nov 6, 2003 10:43AM)
I'm interested in "the magic of david regal Dvds', but as I'm not into much gaffs and stuff like tat as I perform magic usually with borrowed decks, I'm planning to get dvd 3. Are the effects feasible and good?..I'm also interested in learning his bill switch without a thumb tip in his 2nd dvd where he performs the trick Origami Bill.How good is that bill switch technique?..is it clean?..thx
Message: Posted by: Peo Olsson (Nov 6, 2003 12:02PM)
[quote]
There are also those who, even though they have the printed material, appreciate seeing the creator actually perform the effects.
[/quote]

Yeah Baby!

WOW! I have seen the two first dvds now, and they are astounding!

He literally has the audience in his palms. His charm and wit really shows on these tapes.

My favourite effect so far is with a chop cup and a mouse which is described in Close-Up & Personal.

Great job David! I can't wait to see the others.
:thehat:
Message: Posted by: Review King (Nov 7, 2003 03:01PM)
I'm floored by these DVD's. The effects are so strong. David's performing style is so engaging, you know the audience reactions are genuine.

All I can says is Thank God for David Regal. He's a genius!!!!

The Monte effect is incredible. I would have paid the price of the series to learn that one trick from him.
Message: Posted by: RevJohn (Nov 8, 2003 11:34AM)
I love David's performing style. What he has inspired me to do is Script my routines. I like his comment on Impromptu... You are still writing your routine, but just making choices at that particular time and place. If one works for you then, you can use it later.

If not, choose another path.

His use of Gaffs is strong, but I really enjoy how he will use one gaffed deck for two or three "ungaffed" tricks, then perform the effect that relys on the gaff.

Very disarming. Plus he is just so fun to watch.

John
Message: Posted by: Peo Olsson (Nov 8, 2003 06:03PM)
Well, now I have seen all four of David's dvd's.
And Im floored with amazement.
Such a perfomance style, such enginius effects, such an audience appeal, such humor.

I second MagicChris statement "All I can say is thank god for David Regal. He is a genious!!!"

I think I have to watch these baby's all over again, and this time WITH the explenations.

In the end I only have to say: GO GET THOSE TAPES!!
They are the best I seen in a long, long time.
Go on, what are you all waiting for?????
Message: Posted by: Mistro (Nov 13, 2003 09:50PM)
Does anybody know if Jon or David are in these DVDs???
Message: Posted by: Big Jeff (Nov 13, 2003 10:14PM)
David is in the front row and involved in alot of tricks in all the videos and jon is in the back row and you can tell he really hates it.

I like David and I don't like jon.

Big Jeff :kermit: :kermit: :kermit:
Message: Posted by: Review King (Nov 13, 2003 10:15PM)
I'm overwhelmed by David's magic. He keeps fooling me. What a genius.

I could review each DVD or effect, but that would be like critiquing the bible--get these DVDs!!!
Message: Posted by: Lonewolf123 (Nov 13, 2003 10:18PM)
Come on man..do a review on it!
Message: Posted by: david_a_whitehead (Nov 14, 2003 10:06AM)
David Regal is my favorite magic inventor hands down. next would probably be Simon Aronson, followed by paul Harris, marlo/vernon, bannon, jennings....etc.
Message: Posted by: erictan8888 (Nov 14, 2003 05:58PM)
Hi,

have read about nothing but praises about this set of david regal's dvds. so what should I get, his first set of dvds or this set?

oh, I was also thinking about getting mike close's ultimate workers close up set of dvs....
how does this new regal's dvd compare to mike close' set?

thanks for your advice
eric :)
Message: Posted by: Peo Olsson (Nov 14, 2003 06:27PM)
My vote is on David's DVD's.
Amazing, entertaining stuff in those tapes.
The audince really seem to appriciate what he is doing.


Peo
Message: Posted by: bvbernard (Nov 14, 2003 09:56PM)
[quote]
On 2003-11-14 18:58, erictan8888 wrote:

oh, I was also thinking about getting mike close's ultimate workers close up set of dvs....
how does this new regal's dvd compare to mike close' set?

thanks for your advice
eric :)
[/quote]

I have both and think they are both great. You can't go wrong with either set.
Message: Posted by: Lonewolf123 (Nov 14, 2003 11:17PM)
I'm planning to get The magic of David Regal set disc 1 and 3...if I skip disc 2 will I miss any good stuff?
Message: Posted by: Peo Olsson (Nov 15, 2003 12:47AM)
Oh yesssssss !
With David you never can go wrong.

Peo
Message: Posted by: Lonewolf123 (Nov 15, 2003 04:49AM)
Well too bad I only got enough to get 1 and 3 =(
Message: Posted by: David Regal (Nov 16, 2003 01:57PM)
I have just stopped traveling, and can now sell some of my new DVDs. They have received some enthusiastic posts on this forum.

My prices are low, I sign the first volume, and I include printed instructions for a trick not included on the DVDs!

I also have some good combo deals, including tricks and books.

Go to http://www.davidregal.com
Message: Posted by: Review King (Nov 16, 2003 02:26PM)
I didn't know David sold them himself-I would have gotten them from him. Please support the creator and buy direct from David!!!

Chris
Message: Posted by: Mistro (Nov 16, 2003 02:59PM)
I totally agree! Too bad you didn't have a deal like this a little earlier David, I would have bought your Combo #1 right from you if it existed!
Message: Posted by: Peo Olsson (Nov 16, 2003 03:16PM)
Gee David... too bad I have all the stuff in the combos already, except for the instructions for the new effect.
Can it be bought separately?

Peo

PS Do you know if Star Quality ever will be reprinted again, or is that up to Harry Lorayne?
Message: Posted by: Steve Pellegrino (Nov 17, 2003 12:24PM)
Just a reminder that David is on the L&L Discussion board this week - through Sunday the 23rd.
[url]http://www.llpub.com/board[/url]

Stop by and ask David a question!
Message: Posted by: David Regal (Nov 22, 2003 09:26AM)
Platt (from the other thread) -

Thanks for all the nice things you said about my DVDs. As for my aims with this new set, I think I'm more subversive than you give me credit for.

The set is not supposed to be a soup-to-nuts exploration of all that is presentation. It is a cry to REMEMBER presentation, and to treat it with the same respect that we treat sleights and methods. The DVDs are indeed a collection of tricks, but by arranging them in such a way as to highlight certain aspects of presentation, I am reinforcing the fact that those elements of presentation exist. Questioning how those elements come into play while performing one of my effects, or any effect at all, is as good a first step as any when it comes to designing a presentation.

Most magicians have poor presentation. Honestly, most magicians do not take the first step. I called my DVDs "Premise, Power & Participation" so that in the act of asking the man behind the counter for a look at them, that first step has begun.

Self-serving part:

I'm not traveling right now, so if anyone orders the DVDs from me, they'll ship immediately.

Go to http://www.davidregal.com

Scroll down for various combo deals.
Message: Posted by: Platt (Nov 24, 2003 03:30PM)
Hey David, thanks for the reply. Good answer.

[quote]
On 2003-11-13 23:18, Lonewolf123 wrote:
Come on man..do a review on it!
[/quote]

Yes. With all the posts here, there really aren't a lot of solid reviews. Expect killer presentation and killer effects. David, as I mentioned in another post, throws method out the window. He'll slay you with gimmicks so obvious you'd never think to use them. And believe me, that's meant as a compliment. I was fooled badly. Like all David's published material, you can't go wrong here. If you're looking to buy just one, I'd go with volume 3, then 2, then 1, and for the die-hards, 4.

As for individual effects, to me the top standouts were Lucky Sevens, Prophecy Pack, and The Blank Transpo.

As with all L&L videos, I can't help but think the audience is being overly coached to laugh. David is very sharp, very funny. He had me laughing from my coach. But the man could say anything, for instance, hello, and the audience would start giggling like school girls.

"JT-Jonathon Taylor Thomas"- Funny.
"I keep my lucky card next to my magic castle card"- Not funny. Not meant to be.

Help me out David. Was there a toking session prior to the show?
Message: Posted by: David Regal (Nov 24, 2003 05:22PM)
No toking.

To clarify, Volume Four is mostly stand-up parlor-type material. It includes "Journey to Love" and "The Very Last Card", two routines that will, I think, be of great value to those who have a need for material that can be performed at a private home or on a stage. Already, A Magic Castle magician has adapted those two effects for his parlor act.
Message: Posted by: Lonewolf123 (Nov 26, 2003 06:09AM)
I liked the Cup and mice trick and especially the Brother John Hamann's signed card plot with the kicker ending known as 'Exhibit A'..that was a brilliant take on that plot. And yes, I agree that Regal throws method out the window, but he replaces that with his 'own' method which absolutely slays magicians and lay people alike with ideas that are out of this world and you will never think about. I never knew that a simple jacket has so much value in it..= )
Message: Posted by: guido (Dec 2, 2003 03:33AM)
Should I say: Unfortunately, I have already purchased all 4 DVD's, otherwise of course I would have bought them directly from you David!
David uses also a removable double stick tape in vol 2, which I was not able to find in Sweden or even Europe. M3 in Sweden says; Europe is a to small market :shrug:
Anybody could help on this subject? I think the product # is Scotch 667. Maybe PM me?
Message: Posted by: Lonewolf123 (Dec 3, 2003 06:12AM)
Nay any double stick tape will do...try it out.
Message: Posted by: ullig (Dec 3, 2003 09:43AM)
@ Guido:
In Germany we have glue roll-ons. It's the same technic that is used for correction tapes. It is available in permanent or non-permanent. Non-permanent works really fine. I like it more than double stick tape because it's absolutely invisible. The brand name is "Pritt glue-it" (from Henkel?). May be you have the same or similar brands in Sweden!?
Also look at the attached picture to see what I mean.

Best regards,

Ulli
Message: Posted by: Madmonk (Dec 4, 2003 12:12AM)
I second double stick tape. It works great.
Message: Posted by: Review King (Sep 16, 2010 08:55AM)
Craig Petty and David Penn reviewed these and went nuts over how great they are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkjNNUCfUD8&feature=player_embedded
Message: Posted by: jsheas (Sep 16, 2010 08:57PM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-16 09:55, Review King wrote:
Craig Petty and David Penn reviewed these and went nuts over how great they are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkjNNUCfUD8&feature=player_embedded
[/quote]

Are you sure these are the DVD's they reviewed?
Either way, good job bringing back a 7 year old thread.
Message: Posted by: Scott Fridinger (Sep 16, 2010 09:44PM)
Those are the DVD's being reviewed. His other set was three volumes.
Message: Posted by: Review King (Sep 16, 2010 10:48PM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-16 21:57, jsheas wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-09-16 09:55, Review King wrote:
Craig Petty and David Penn reviewed these and went nuts over how great they are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkjNNUCfUD8&feature=player_embedded
[/quote]

Are you sure these are the DVD's they reviewed?
Either way, good job bringing back a 7 year old thread.
[/quote]

I like to bring back old threads, even thought it angers some people on the Café. Why do they get angry about it? Because they are idiots, so it's fun to annoy them.

:rotf:
Message: Posted by: puggo (Sep 17, 2010 06:27AM)
Some of the best material I have added to my repertoire is from 'old' DVDs. I only discovered the Brainstorm set by Guastaferro some years after the release after seeing an old thread on the Café.

Keep posting Chris!
Message: Posted by: Domino Magic (Sep 17, 2010 08:53AM)
I agree with Chris, I don't know why people get so upset over an old thread being brought back. Why does it matter? Like Puggo said above, it calls your attention to something that you may not have heard of, or forgotten about. How many repeat threads are there on this board because someone didn't want to post on an old thread?
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (Sep 17, 2010 10:26AM)
I have this dvd set and think it is fun to pop it in sometimes for entertainment. There is so much material on these that sometimes I forget the methods and am fooled again. These are my favorite dvds.
Message: Posted by: jsheas (Sep 17, 2010 11:23AM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-16 21:57, jsheas wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-09-16 09:55, Review King wrote:
Craig Petty and David Penn reviewed these and went nuts over how great they are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkjNNUCfUD8&feature=player_embedded
[/quote]

Are you sure these are the DVD's they reviewed?
Either way, good job bringing back a 7 year old thread.
[/quote]

Whoops, sorry that was my fault.
I thought I was in "The Latest and Greatest" Section when I read the post. Which a 7 year old thread would not apply. I have no problem with it in this section of the forums.