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Message: Posted by: ClodAppleleft (Oct 23, 2003 11:33AM)
In a couple of months, I am helping a friend sell his leather goods at an "Adult Convention" When I say Adult, I mean ADULT. If you need more clarification, then you are too young to understand. Anyway, what I want to do is setup my close-up table in front of his booth, and do some magic to attract more customers. I was wondering if anyone had any good ideas for more "Adult" tricks?

Thanks,

Jeff
Message: Posted by: twistedace (Oct 23, 2003 11:56AM)
I don't know how much magic is going to attract more people than some of the other things at an ADULT convention. You have to find some hardcore tricks, (no pun intended), maybe alter routines you have so they use his product? using leather whips as magic wands and whatnot. Are you doing bigger Illusions? Mismade girl can be kind of interesting, and so can the sword basket if you get the right assistant. WHat about using other things to do a coins across type routine? Bottom line is try to sell his product. You have to come up with provocative patter if you're going to be doing card tricks because it's obviously going to suit your clients.

Insurance policy could be good, vanishing bandana could play kind of interesting if you come up with the right in-between patter, cut and restored rope (tons of easy patter could go with this), sponge balls from the mouth or sponge balls in general ending with the sponge ding dong, swallowing an inflated balloon animal balloon (I learned this in prison, at the white house etc.). There are a few good things you can do if you put your mind to it. These are ideas I came up with in literally 2 minutes as to what I would do...try it out. ANd if Jenna's gonna be there send me an invite haha have fun!
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Oct 23, 2003 12:18PM)
Why try to learn new stuff? Do what you do well. If they are real adults treat them as such. :band:
Message: Posted by: cfrye (Oct 23, 2003 12:22PM)
How about a rope/string and ring routine with a pliable leather thong/lace and a harness ring that might be used on some of your friend's products? There are plenty of possibilities for patter with "trying to get out of it" themes.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Oct 23, 2003 12:25PM)
I agree with pete. do your stuff. you will be happier in the end if you do.
Message: Posted by: twistedace (Oct 23, 2003 12:27PM)
I agree too with do stuff you know, I'm just giving you ideas here. Like a straight jacket escape wearing your friend's products
Message: Posted by: ClodAppleleft (Oct 23, 2003 12:37PM)
I do have a lot of stuff that I can do.

I have Symbologic, which will work great, plus a couple other mentalism effects. I have ring on a string, and Professor's nightmare (which will be riot with my patter) and I have cups and balls.

I was just looking for something new, not sure what though. I always want to learn and ever expand my repetoire, and since this is not something I normally do, I figured it would be a good venue to try and get some new, more adult effects in to my repetoire.

Jeff
Message: Posted by: Reis O'Brien (Oct 23, 2003 07:53PM)
Handcuffs come to mind... Also, I have a Svengali deck that turns into "nudie" cards. Seems to get attention.
Message: Posted by: GlenD (Oct 23, 2003 09:33PM)
Just had a goofy thought regarding using cups and balls....
Nevermind, use your imagination.
:bg:

GlenD
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Oct 23, 2003 10:33PM)
Check with http://www.stevensmagic.com and see if they still have any of my comedy chastity belts (with routine). :pepper: :kermit: :pepper:
Message: Posted by: Lee Darrow (Oct 24, 2003 10:10AM)
Much as I hate to say it, the bra trick comes to mind. ;)

Get some purple sponge rubber and cut it into triangles and do a Viagra routine!

Rising cards - too obvious for words, Glorpy, too!

Thumbcuffs, Tenkai's Decapitation (ropes thru the neck), X-Ray vision act (blindfold routine), Professor Charlie Cheer's Rope Trick, and, if you ant to get gross, the Pea Can! ;)

Hope this helps!

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.
http://www.leedarrow.com
Message: Posted by: MacGyver (Oct 24, 2003 12:53PM)
I would just act like you are doing a tradeshow. Try to attract people and get them intrested in the product.

Honestly if this convention is like most conventions for ANY hobby/job, then people are going to be a little tired of the same old things, and anything different will get their attention.

You don't need to make your magic dirty, just do your regular stuff and they will be intrested because it will be a change of pace.
Message: Posted by: Doug Byrd (Oct 24, 2003 03:33PM)
Just do your regular stuff. Just do it NAKED!
That's what they are there for anyways. Who know's you might get asked to do other "Adult" parties as Nakini the Magician. Remember start with the old classic - Rising Wand Trick, and end with the Vanishing Wand Trick (with the help of a beautiful female assistant from the crowd), followed 9 months later by the Vanishing Magician Trick.

JMHO,
Doug
Message: Posted by: NJJ (Oct 24, 2003 04:52PM)
Just do all your normal tricks but wink after every line so they think you said something dirty.

I've done adult events in the past and I have found that they are not there to be sleazy but to have FUN! You'll be surprised how many couples will be there and some may be quite emarrased to be there so keep it light, silly and FUN!!!

In other words, go for innuendo over out right rudeness.
Message: Posted by: ZachWaldman (Oct 24, 2003 08:00PM)
Doc Eason's All Screwed Up Routine is really a close
up effect but you may be able to play it big.
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (Oct 25, 2003 06:22AM)
Use a break-away wand and say the magic word "Viagra" to restore it. (Nicholas J. Johnson's avatar looks like the before picture.)
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Nov 5, 2003 04:06AM)
I advise you to visit one of the larger stores, in your town, that sells adult toys and such. You're bound to get ideas, if the store stocks a variety of items.

Here's a few ideas:

- A flipstick routine using a certain battery operated item.
- Thumb tie (popular with the S&M crowd)
- Goshman's D*ng D*ng
- Ring and Rope (Harness rings are available, quite often, where adult toys are sold.)
- Sponge Bunnies
- Card effects with naughty decks (draw an "x" on the back of the cards with a bar of "Cashmere Bouquet" soap, so they will handle well)
- Card to battery compartment of a battery operated device, held in a woman's cleavage
- 3 in the hand, one in the pocket (using condoms, naughty erasers, harness rings, etc.)
- Stan, Kate and Edith (or whatever that Kerry Pollack routine is)
Message: Posted by: Drew from Spotlight (Nov 5, 2003 06:03AM)
I never thought Id recommend the Magic Ding Dong to anybody but if there was ever a venue that this trick might be appropriate for - this is it.

Drew
Message: Posted by: Jkta99 (Nov 7, 2003 01:54PM)
You can get the ding dong from magic max for like 22 dollars
Message: Posted by: spatlind (Nov 7, 2003 02:29PM)
Sounds like cups and balls are perfect. No end to what you could load!
Message: Posted by: Chris Berry (Nov 7, 2003 02:59PM)
X-rated Cups and Balls.

You do it naked. No one can see any place to hide the final loads!


Chris
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (Nov 7, 2003 09:29PM)
"X-Rated Cups and Balls" is actually the name of a Scotty York cup and ball routine because you could do it naked if you wanted to. You don't load or unload from/to your pants or jacket pocket or from anywhere as a matter of fact, yet the effect looks like other versions and even ends with large loads.

Larry D.
Message: Posted by: Chris Berry (Nov 7, 2003 10:20PM)
Larry, thank you for explaining the originator of that!

I know where the loads are for the routine. My friend was talking to Martin Lewis and Martin told him about the routine. My friend forgot who invented it and he told me about it.

Thanks again.

Chris
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (Nov 8, 2003 06:21AM)
My pleasure.
Message: Posted by: Joshua Lozoff (Nov 8, 2003 07:19PM)
With a gambler's bottom palm cop, and if you wear a tucked in shirt, it's quite easy to produce a chosen card from inside your pants zipper. That's a lot of fun.
Message: Posted by: aby9plp (Nov 10, 2003 10:41AM)
Why don't you use those cards with sexy naked women pictures on them.
Message: Posted by: kryptonite76 (Nov 11, 2003 09:20AM)
Get the book "Sexy Magic"
Message: Posted by: Lee Darrow (Nov 11, 2003 02:26PM)
One thing that might play very well is almost ANY mentalism routine where you seem to read their minds.

The obvious line - "Yes, I read minds - and YOU" point at someone who has been laughing at your other material, "should be ashamed of yourself! And sorry, I'm spoken for!"

Done in a joking manner, this rarely fails to get a good laugh out of everyone there.

Not to mention that, in some instances, the last line will be VERY correct and the person's reaction will be one for your scrap book!

Trust me on that one.

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.
http://www.leedarrow.com
Message: Posted by: Paul Sherman (Dec 1, 2003 05:28PM)
[quote]
On 2003-11-05 05:06, Alan Munro wrote:

- Thumb tie (popular with the S&M crowd)

[/quote]

Sado-magicism?
Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Dec 1, 2003 08:11PM)
Zach Waldman writes: "Doc Eason's All Screwed Up Routine is really a close
up effect but you may be able to play it big."

Actually, the effect was created by Gary Frings, not Doc Eason, although Eason popularized it; Eason has repeatedly denied that he created the effect!
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Dec 1, 2003 09:27PM)
BTW, a mini-flogger is great to do wand spins with! Okay, so I tried it with the girlfriends flogger. :rotf:
Message: Posted by: Lee Darrow (Dec 2, 2003 12:02PM)
Whipping your performance into shape, eh? :rotf:

Well, the Siberian Chain Escape would probably have some interesting responses at such an event, as would thumbcuffs, red tape thumb tie and the 100' challenge rope escape!

I won't even begin to talk about the Shanghai Shackle! ;)

:handcuffs:

And in doing CMH, you could use the line: "This trick uses three of your favorite things, Mistress - crazy men, latex and handcuffs!" Trust me, that one always gets a laugh! :lol:

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.
http://www.leedarrow.com :handcuffs:
Message: Posted by: altoni (Dec 2, 2003 01:27PM)
Hi Jeff,

I think all the above advice it great.

You know, just doing your own material the way you always do it might be a really nice change of pace for the folks there. Like having a cigarette after all that...input.

Good luck,

Al
Message: Posted by: KingStardog (Dec 2, 2003 01:42PM)
Do you realy need the work that bad? Probably not.
Message: Posted by: ClodAppleleft (Dec 2, 2003 01:49PM)
[quote]
On 2003-12-02 14:42, KingStardog wrote:
Do you realy need the work that bad? Probably not.
[/quote]

What do you mean?

Do I need the work? No. But I'm going to be there anyway, so I figured I might as well do something besides people watch.
Message: Posted by: KingStardog (Dec 2, 2003 04:13PM)
Well hey, If you are just hanging out don't change a thing, and just do what you want to do. I was under the impression that you got hired on and they wanted you to theme and build an entire act just for one show. Just do what you do well and don't worry about the site specific crowd.
Message: Posted by: Stuart Hooper (Dec 3, 2003 07:32AM)
[quote]
On 2003-12-02 14:42, KingStardog wrote:
Do you realy need the work that bad? Probably not.
[/quote]

Whatttamean? Theres nothing wrong with adult videos/toys/conventions? Sounds like a fun gig to me....
:stout:
Message: Posted by: Expertmagician (Dec 5, 2003 08:42AM)
Mmm... how about card in condom or there is the old trick where you place some Alka Selzer in a champain glass and cover it with a condom and the bubbles make it get erect.

Just 2 ideas which came to mind without much thought behind it.
Jeff
Message: Posted by: cheesewrestler (Dec 5, 2003 01:55PM)
I saw a listing somewhere -- maybe in an H&R catalog? -- for a book on "adult" balloon twisting designs. Almost got it for the sheer absurdity of the thing, but hey! for a gig like this...
Sorry I don't remember details, but you might search around on the Net. At least now you know there is such a thing!
Message: Posted by: the levitator (Dec 5, 2003 03:51PM)
I think those that have mentioned to just do what you do are on the right track. Making generalizations about an audience can lose them in a hurry. About 2 months ago, I produced a promotional video for one of the country's best known tattoo parlors for an upcoming Tattoo Artist Convention. They knew I was also a magician, and asked me to also work their booth where they were showing my video. I guess I consider myself a bizarrist already, so I figured this crowd was right up my alley. So I gathered all my freaky weird stuff, and a few things for kids, just in case there were a few. My most requested effect of the convention? Spongeballs! I couldn't believe it! 250 pound bikers with more ink on them than the New York Times would have rather have seen me do spongeballs than chew razor blades. I had a blast, and learned a valuable lesson.
Message: Posted by: Lee Darrow (Dec 6, 2003 02:54PM)
Too true! Sponges are my most requested routine as well, along with CMH.

ALWAYS play to the audience. It keeps them from throwing things at you. ;)

But there are fewer restrictions at an "adult products" convention than at your average church social. ;)

But in such cases, it's always a good idea to keep your "comfort zone" meter set to the "on" position so that you do not step over any lines.

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.
http://www.leedarrow.com
Message: Posted by: Paul (Dec 7, 2003 03:53PM)
Hmmm, let me see, shall we visit the stand with the magician or the one with the naked ladies....

At the end of the day it's just a trade show..

Let us know how you went on.

Paul.
Message: Posted by: Magic.J.Manuel (Feb 12, 2004 06:25PM)
I've seen a Svengali deck with nudie pictures and the sponge balls with porno finale is good. I remember a Lets F*** 3 card monte from college days. You can substitute your picture and info to get more of these gigs. ;)
And there is a book called Bar Room Balloons that will play to that venue. Dog pees out a match.
The needle balloon requires lubrication to achieve penetration. You can take most effects and design a routine tailored for either moral extreme.
Message: Posted by: Paul (Feb 12, 2004 07:35PM)
So how DID this go and what did you end up doing?
Paul
Message: Posted by: Lee Darrow (Feb 13, 2004 03:09AM)
[quote]
On 2003-12-02 14:42, KingStardog wrote:
Do you realy need the work that bad? Probably not.
[/quote]

Not to be offensive, but, take a look at the following situation - one that has happened in the past...

Your agent books you into a "Lifestyles" convention and does NOT tell you about what's going to happen. It turns out to be an S&M/B&D convention and you are stuck there because your flight is the next day - you do the gig or forfeit the paycheck, flight costs and hotel expenses. And that can amount to a rather painful sum!

Surprises happen in this biz and some agents won't tell you everything. No shocking revelation there! ;)

Been there, had that happen about 20 years ago, was shocked at first, but soldiered on and wound up booking several lucrative "regular world" trade show gigs as a direct result.

But I really CAN understand someone who would refuse to work such a gig. Seeing people being led around on leashes attached to their mammary glands through a piercing, can be a little tough to deal with for a lot of people!

Shame I don't remember the sequence for the "jawdrop" emoticon - it would fit perfectly here!

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.
http://www.leedarrow.com
Message: Posted by: ClodAppleleft (Feb 13, 2004 08:20AM)
Hey everyone,

The gig did go down, and it was definately an interesting weekend. One of the things that we were selling were leather roses, so I was always loaded up with them, and I'd do an appearing rose effect for the ladies. I got lots of sales for that one. I also did Jim Pace's "The Web" a lot and that went over big time. Especially on one woman who had a tattoo on her arm that looked liked the web on the cards. I took the cards showed them blank, then rubbed them on her arm, and the web appeared on the cards. When I turned her hand over and she saw the spider, she jumped. She wasn't freaked out, but was just surprised. My friend also made a pair of trick learher cuffs for me that I was using while being lead around by one of the women. At one point someone asked about the cuffs, and "My Mistress" had them put their hands under a foulard with my hands. Next thing they knew in one swoop, the cuffs were off my hands and on theirs. When they realized they couldn't get out, "My Mistress" politely unlocked them with the key around her neck. It was great fun... Didn't get any other gigs out of the weekend, but I had fun and it didn't cost me anything. Besides, I got to see my wife in a short skirt, high healed boots, and a tight leather lock bodice. :banana:

Jeff
Message: Posted by: Paul (Feb 13, 2004 08:00PM)
Sounds like a good time was had by all. Glad it went well. Leather roses? Cool.

Paul.
Message: Posted by: Lee Darrow (Feb 14, 2004 03:13AM)
I kinda like the trick with the cuffs! Nice variation!

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.
http://www.leedarrow.com
Message: Posted by: itsmagic (Feb 19, 2004 02:46AM)
Good to hear it well down well...ahem...May I suggest next time you find yourself in this bind, try using Lubor Fiedler's Daydreams book patterned after the Coloring Book, but with an adult theme.
Message: Posted by: thegreatgeorgio (May 18, 2005 02:17PM)
Hi guys,

You all forgot the INDIAN ROPE TRICK lol

thanks

George

PS Also glad it went well ;-)
Message: Posted by: qwism (May 18, 2005 09:54PM)
Use a break-away wand and say the magic word "Viagra" to restore it. (Nicholas J. Johnson's avatar looks like the before picture.)

The reply by Larry Davidson was a classic.

Had me laughing.
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (May 19, 2005 01:10AM)
For those of you who know us, my wife Lucy is more than a performing stage magician, she is also a private practice physician who owns her own clinic.

One of her really interesting adult routines is her visit from her male rabbit patient who needs to see the doctor about problems no male rabbit should ever have. He gets his prescription for Viagra!

Bob
Magic By Sander
Message: Posted by: PhatDad (May 19, 2005 07:00AM)
You could have done that trick were billiard ball after billiard ball appears from the mouth but used one of those gimp masks with the billiard ball looking gag attached.
Message: Posted by: Alym Amlani (May 19, 2005 04:30PM)
The routine by Cody Fisher called Sweet Dreams seems like it would fit the bill quite nicely!
Message: Posted by: kinesis (May 21, 2005 07:53AM)
I think you should do a variation on the finger chopper....I'm sure you'll all work it out :wow:
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (May 21, 2005 08:07AM)
That would be a eunich presentation.
Message: Posted by: Jaz (May 21, 2005 08:47AM)
Appearing 10' Pole.

Check out bachelorette.com for edible panties and other adult props I've never seen before.

Oh! Make sure you use plenty of MissedErection.
Message: Posted by: eb02 (May 21, 2005 09:43AM)
A few tricks that I do for adults:
1. Ding-dong- a sponge routine with a different ending.
2. Color book - change the blank pages to nude pictures
3. Halllelujah - standing condom... http://www.magicpuzzle.com/index.asp?w=800&h=600
4. I remember Steven once sold a nude belt that you need to find the right key to open the lock.
Eran
Message: Posted by: krist0pher (May 22, 2005 12:01AM)
Some condoms come with aluminum wrappers that are lined with Spermicide coating, and I'm guessing you could pull off one heck of a Raven effect with those?
Message: Posted by: kinesis (May 22, 2005 04:37AM)
Neither aluminium or latex are magnetic!
Message: Posted by: Lee Darrow (May 22, 2005 04:55AM)
Shim, shim shimshimsherree! That should pose no problem for an enterprising mage, kinesis!

Just couldn't let that one pass!

Lee Darrow, C.H.
Message: Posted by: kinesis (May 22, 2005 06:32AM)
Very true Mr Darrow. You could gimmick the condoms by sticking a pin in them. Remove the pin after the effect and give the condoms out as freebies. Hey you'll have nine months to prepare your case.
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (May 22, 2005 07:46AM)
LOL. I can just imagine that case. "Your honor, there's a little prick in this condom."
Message: Posted by: manolo (May 22, 2005 09:08AM)
Please, Check : Mr Willy of the Mago Anton in: http://www.magoanton.com/ingles.php
thanks
Message: Posted by: Lee Darrow (May 22, 2005 07:02PM)
Actually, I was thinking of shimming the packages... gee, guys, you are really sick...! Funny, but sick...!

Lee Darrow, C.H.
Message: Posted by: mouliu (May 23, 2005 08:29AM)
I'd do the 3 ropes trick, using the ropes to measure the gentlemen's size...

Just my 2 cents.
Message: Posted by: kinesis (May 23, 2005 09:28AM)
Do the Indian Rope Trick, you could substitute the rope with your...okay, let's not go there...LOL
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (May 23, 2005 04:48PM)
I thought the Indian Rope Trick was a stage effect. Kinesis, if you're capable of performing your variation so that it's visible for large audiences, you're in the wrong business.
Message: Posted by: Phil Thomas (May 23, 2005 09:52PM)
How about the "Zig-Zag Dominatrix"?
Message: Posted by: kinesis (May 24, 2005 03:29AM)
Did I ever mention my day job Larry...
Message: Posted by: Sam Tabar (May 25, 2005 02:33AM)
Do Jay Sankey's "Airtight" but with a condom instead of a balloon.
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (May 25, 2005 04:37PM)
But if the condom breaks, you might end up with some miniature cards.
Message: Posted by: Sam Tabar (May 26, 2005 03:08AM)
52 miniature cards to be exact!
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (May 26, 2005 07:27AM)
Unless the deck is spade.
Message: Posted by: Sam Tabar (May 27, 2005 03:42AM)
LOL!!!
Message: Posted by: Alym Amlani (May 27, 2005 04:19AM)
LOL!!!!!!!
Larry, you just made my day