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Hi, I am making a list of tricks that involve dice. Please post any tricks or effects that involve dice. Also note that all the tricks in my list so far need props and there are no tricks needing sleight. Are there any such tricks? So far I have these: Die Cipher 2 Dice Bombs Gamblers' Dice (Sure Shot Dice Cup) Tower of Dice (Tenyo) Hydro Die Las Vegas Dice Ghost Dice (Magic Wagon) Flash Dice(Tenyo) 


Dr sac dice routine. Bob Sheets its the rules. (These first two are the same but different) Dice stacking, There is a dice matrix were you have the dice set in a squer with the number 1, 2, 3 ,4 face up and the dice go across in order. Then a version of two hats 4 marbles can be done with different colour dice or any small objects. All of these use no gaffs, regular dice and various level of slight along with miss direction. Let me know if these help. and which ones fit what your looking for as I migth have a few more ideas 


You may be interested in a booklet by Marlo called "Shoot The Works." 


SlipOff Spots Reappearing Die Dice Tunnel Badland's Bob Growing Dice Plus Haunted Die Hot Spot Die Crushed Die How To Win At Craps Shrinking Die Tunnel Of Darkness Ultra Tube Space Towers Human Calculator Dice Problema Mini Die Box NuDie Mystery The above list should keep you busy for awhile, Shakuni. :) 


Badlands Bob is one awesome dice trick. I purchased it in July and have had a blast performing it. You might want to consider the World's Greatest Magic DVD on "Magic with Dice". 


Great suggestions, I did not know that there are so many things that can be done with dice. Time to check them now :) Also, please keep posting if you know about any other dice trick. 


John Kennedy has a great dice effect called Double Whammy. It gets a great reaction! 


I recently bought an old bag of magic tricks from an antique store.There was a dice trick called"red devils"in the bag. 


Dicey Dots by Daryl Not sure if you can still purchase it. I used to have it but wore the spots off of the one die 


'Dicey' by Bob Ostin is unique because they're folded paper. Originally produced by Emerson & West. You can still score 'em at The Magic Gadget Site for a reasonable price, the last time I checked. 


One amazing trick is Axel Hecklau's "Just a Cup" which uses a die. 


[quote] On 20120905 12:12, CAPTAIN BEYOND wrote: I recently bought an old bag of magic tricks from an antique store.There was a dice trick called"red devils"in the bag. [/quote] I believe this is a version of "two in the pocket, one in the hand" using small red dice. Julie 


Julie,you are right,that is exactly what this trick is. 


Check out "Miller's Dice"! Enjoy the search. Respectfully, Paul Green 


[quote] On 20120904 18:00, LeoH wrote: Badlands Bob is one awesome dice trick. I purchased it in July and have had a blast performing it. You might want to consider the World's Greatest Magic DVD on "Magic with Dice". [/quote] What's Badlands Bob's effect ? In the venon Book of magic he has Climax to for a dice routine. Aldo C. has some DVDs on Dice and Cards also. As Paul said above. Miller's Dice routine is a nice routine, although I'm not sure how easy it is to find today ? 


Mystre71: Badlands Bob is a marketed effect from Viking Magic. A die is captured inside a wooden box with a clear cover on top. The six is on top. The die cannot roll inside the box because the box is too small, but you can change the number displayed on top of the die that is selected by the spectators. You need to go to Viking's website and check it out. It is well built, and unlike most tricks the routine furnished with it really plays well. 


Leoh, Thanks! I checked it out, looks like a winner to me. 


The nicest set of props for a dice trick was made years ago by Sam Berland. Here's a link I found to the Berland Dice Routine: http://www.ktmagic.com/auction/APViewItem.asp?ID=4826 I believe Richard Hughes has the right to the SAM BERLAND line, and I would buy this in a heartbeat if I could fine one.... 


I wish Magic Laurie would put up a demo of her doing a beautiful dice switch the name escapes me please Laurie show the demo. vinny 


A Whip cup. Enjoy your search! 


Ed Marlo "High Rise Assembly" in Apocalypse (In fact there are quite a few dice effects scattered throughout Apocalypse) This is perhaps the matrix effect with dice alluded to earlier. Aldo Colombini's Two in Hand One in Pocket from the Ganson Teach In Series (available at Lybrary.com) of course can be done with dice Get the book Kort, written by Stephen Minch. One third of the book is devoted to Milt Kort's dice work. (Kort used casino dice. The work is NOT easy but the effects are ingenious) I also want to "second" Magiguy's suggestion that you get Marlo's booklet "Shoot the Works." Think outside the box! Many effects that use small objects obviously can use dice. How about doing Paul Gertner's Cup and Ball routine but substitute dice for ball bearings? Many coins across routines can use dice, etc. ... Casino dice are necessary if you get the Kort work and if you want to do dice stacking and if you want to get into serious sleight of hand that is devoted to dice specifically. Casino dice have a matte finish and sharp corners which facilitate and are even necessary for certain sleights  regular game dice that come with Monopoly are more slippery and have more rounded corners. Earlier in this thread a member mentioned Dr. Sack's Dice routine. This one is a classic and was rereleased in the 2000's. The difference is that the original (published in The Phoenix) was ungaffed and the rereleased version adds some possibilities because it is gaffed. I think that the remake I am talking about was not the Bob Sheets one but the one by (I THINK) Sol Stone. Not sure though, it could be the Bob Sheets version. Regardless, it's a great effect, highly visual and really impossible looking. While not strictly dice only, Aldo Colombini has an ebook devoted to card effects in which dice play a significant role in the effect. Everything Aldo sells on his site is a mere 10.00/item! Vlad 


Dice No Dice from Kingdom of the Red Paul 


Mark Leveridge has a cups and balls style routine called "Wild Dice" that can be excellent in the right circumstances. It's a great, small, selfcontained alternative to cups and balls. http://www.markleveridge.co.uk/wd.php 


"It's the rules", by Bob Sheets. Fantastic non gimmicked dice routine. 


Perfect Dice by Magic Wagon http://www.magicwagon.com/ProductDetail.asp?id=100 Francis 


Sol Stone's is Radical Dice, using special dice. A great alternative to the Dr Sack routine. 


Can't forget the classic 'UFO dice' I have the pro brass version.. a really great trick! 


I never knew they had a brass "ufo dice".I would have bought one a long time ago.The plastic one works well though and is a favorite of mine too. 


This isn't exactly a trick involving dice but it is more of a mentalism trick. COrinda has an excellent way of forcing a number from shaking 6 dice in a glass and adding up all the numbers.  can be found in 13 steps 


Die Namic from Ken Allen which was the precursor to Lunaballs and Squeeze Play. Die Golly, also from Ken Allen which was a two in the hands one in the pocket routine culminating in the change of the very small dice to a Jumbo Die. Die Golly was cleverly conceived and made possible the change without the use of a switch. Shrinking Die from Royal Magic 


This is really easy and neat Dice trick that I teach in all of my magic classes...uses just regular dice that I get from the dollar store, usually the colored dice.. Tell your audience of poker buddies or friends you can do remote viewing. Explain what this is for those with puzzled looks on their faces. • 2 Pick one person and give them a pair of dice. Turn your back to the person with the dice. Tell the group you'll have the person generate a random number with the dice and then, with remote viewing, magically determine the number • 3 Instruct the person to roll the dice. Tell her to add the two numbers on the dice together in her head, but not to say anything out loud. • 4 Have your friend pick up one of the dice, turn it over and look at the number. Tell him to add this number to the total. • 5 Ask the dice roller to roll the dice she picked up one more time. Then, have her add this number to her total as well. • 6 Turn around to face the person and the dice. Look at the dice, add the numbers showing together and then add seven. By adding seven, you'll always come up with their number no matter what the number is. • 7 Make a good magic presentation of the dice trick. Tell the person to concentrate on his number and pretend to go into a remove viewing trance. To add to the dramatic effect, write the number on a piece of paper and reveal it to the group. Bill 


Chinkachink 


Die Transposition from Rink's Magic 


Which tricks would you recommend for loaded dice? I bought a pair of dices (one loaded, one normal) recently for some reason, but haven't found so much use for them. Of course you can gamble with somebody using shuttle pass etc., but... it's not very magical... 


Another vote for Bob Sheets  It's the Rules. Can't go wrong. 


I know Badlands Bob was mentioned but Viking also has some more great dice effects: Loaded Dice  by Alan Wakeling Problema and I think I got this last one from them but I can't remember. DieAbolical by Steve Cook 


Mini Die Lema Diceolation 


There's a chapter on dice effects in SW Table Magic by Karl Fulves. There are also a few in Dunninger's Encyclopedia. The original Dr Sack routine  which is a stunner  is in Bruce Elliott's Classic Secrets of Magic. Barry 


Die Pene Tration by Rick Johnsson "Dicey" by Bob Ostin Shrinking Die Whip Cup and Dice (My favorite!) Carl Bremma had a mini, single dice holder (cube), that worked like a Boston Box Plus, I have two dice effects that I have on the market. The first is, "DicePaddle Prediction" that includes routines and ideas with dice and paddles and the second is "Red Hot Dice" that is a pair of dice that at the end of a routine melt into a half pool. The die is half way there and half way melted into a puddle. 


Diamond Jim Tyler has a nice invisible dice routine in his lecture. 


Crazy Cube, a second sight effect. 


7 Lucky Dice by Diamond Jim Tyler Forcing Dice included. https://www.mymagic.com/p/mentalmagic/7luckydicediamondjimtyler 


Hi! Mind Magic mentioned that Dr. Sack's dice routine is in Bruce Elliot's "Classic Secrets of Magic". Vlad_77 mentioned that it's in "Phoenix". It's in Phoenix #152. The late Mel Burkhart, an old side show friend, did it with dice about 2" (cube). 


A few other effects that employ dice that I found in my collection are, Abbott's "Whiz Ding", Ed Mishell's "Chip Stack", and "TwentyFirst Century Miko" put out by Paul Diamond. 


This is an idea from my lecture notes/book "Happy Hour" (2014). I originally discovered this idea in 1988 and taught it at many of my lectures, however, I did not put it in print until 2014. 15. White Flower Liquid; White Flower liquid is a Chinese analgesic liquid used for treating muscle strains, congestion, arthritis pain, some headaches, and several other ailments. I started using it in 1988, after sustaining a shoulder injury. It was shown to me by Dr. Wu during the Las Vegas Desert Magic Seminar who treated my shoulder after my injury. Shortly after I started treating my shoulder with the White Flower, I discovered that it had a strange effect on my fingers. It acted as an astringent that caused my fingers to simulate a rattling dice sound when I would rub them together. It really sounds like a pair of dice being rattled around in your hand. I immediately saw the possibilities for the effect. Two of my ideas are; Drop several dice on the table, pretend to pick two of the dice up, and rattle them in your hands. I now ask a spectator, "Call out any number.", and after the spectator calls a number, throw the dice to the table. However the dice vanish. I then say, "Sorry  better luck next time." Or, instead of nothing falling from your hand, a silver dollar or two fall out. Instead of, "Sorry  better luck next time.", at this time I would say, "Nope  it is heads." That is if the coin drops head side up. Otherwise I would of course say, "Nope  it is tails." This could make for a good segue from a dice routine and into a coin routine. I once showed my vanishing dice effect to my friend Roger Klause who immediately started to use it. I also performed it at many of my lectures. I was amused when a few of my lecture attendees thought that I was using some sort of recording device to create the sound of rattling dice. Another of its uses is; it clears the sinuses. Something that is very handy when you live in Michigan where colds, flu, hay fever, and congestion are the norm. I would use it just before starting my show or lecture so that my sinuses were clear and I was refreshed. White Flower liquid is available through most Chinese grocery stores. There is one downside to using White Flower Liquid. It has a very strong Camphor and Eucalyptus smell to it. I hope that you enjoy my idea and will try it Antony Gerard Antony Gerard Magic AntonyGerard.com 


Axel Hecklau has a good dice effect called "Just a cup". Very magical looking. Harold Catquet also has a few good dice ideas. Harold has given me permission to include some of his ideas in my new dice effect, "Red Hot Dice". 


Https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magicdownloads/closeupmagicdownloads/hackingsackandbolt/ Curtis Kam teaches a great routine on this inexpensive download (along with a cool self twisting nut and bolt  with a little something extra involved. I found the item without too much effort). At MagiFest 2016, Glenn Morphew showed myself and two of my friends a breathtakingly smooth dice routine that I am not sure he has released yet. At least it is not on his site yet http://povmagician.com/shop/ Hopefully, he releases it eventually as it is still burnt into my mind in the "as real as magic can look" category. :) C'mon Glenn... get with it. [Until then check out some of his other fine routines. This guy does not put out anything bt [b]PURE WORKERS[/b] 


Hope someone can tell me who makes / sells this dice, https://www.facebook.com/jorgos.pampoukidis/videos/10212481684009791/?q=jorgos%20pampoukidis 


NIM 31 (originally by by Dr Jacob Daley?) Although not strictly speaking a 'magical effect' It certainly seems magical to the spectator. I took the trouble of memorising by heart all the various primary and secondary key positions. It has more than repaid my efforts. What I love about this effect is that the spectator is always so engrossed in the performance that they experience a natural enjoyment in the process. This is of course an effect that can be endlessly repeated! I generally find that the person you are challenging will invariably demand MANY rematches becoming increasingly baffled as to the strategy you are employing. I present it as a game of "skill and strategy". Of course it is nothing but a scam! :die: 


.........Also 'VICTORY DIE'. A gaffed die that offers the potential for routines involving the elimination of envelopes etc down from six to one. Sold by Peter Monticup of 'Magictricks.com' 


I have been using Matt Mello’s Rhine’s Dice, my favourite dice effect at the moment!! 


John Guastafarro has a great trick that uses dice on his Second Storm DVDs called The Eerie Truth  "A random card is selected using a few rolls of the dice. After showing that your written prediction matches the selected card, you reveal the eerie truth that the trick never happened!" This trick has a great ending and can definitely be used as a closer. 


Just a cup is great which I bought it at an Axel lecture a good few years ago now Olly 


Another die effect I like, Get 2 dice rolled with your backed turned, Spectator adds both up, He or she then chooses any one and looks at the opposing end and adds that to the total, He or she throws that die again and adds that to the total, With your back turned ask for the total, deduct 7 and that will give the total of the 2 dice currently showing upwards. You will also be able to tell them it’s a 4 and 4 showing. Example 4 and 2 thrown = 6 Spec adds the reverse of the 2 ie 5 so total so =11 Then throws the 2 and gets another 4 so total is now 15 which is announced to you. deduct 7 = 8 and you can tell them that 2 x 4,s are uppermost on both die. If it’s 9 there is a way of knowing whether it’s 5/4 6/3 but too long to explain here. Enjoy Olly 


[quote]On Dec 10, 2018, Oil&Water wrote: Another die effect I like, Get 2 dice rolled with your backed turned, Spectator adds both up, He or she then chooses any one and looks at the opposing end and adds that to the total, He or she throws that die again and adds that to the total, With your back turned ask for the total, deduct 7 and that will give the total of the 2 dice currently showing upwards. You will also be able to tell them it’s a 4 and 4 showing. Example 4 and 2 thrown = 6 Spec adds the reverse of the 2 ie 5 so total so =11 Then throws the 2 and gets another 4 so total is now 15 which is announced to you. deduct 7 = 8 and you can tell them that 2 x 4,s are uppermost on both die. If it’s 9 there is a way of knowing whether it’s 5/4 6/3 but too long to explain here. Enjoy Olly [/quote] Where can this effect be found? (Book, dvd, lecture notes)? Sounds like a fairly mathematical system but not overly hard to do in your head. 


I’ve been performing mental dies for about a month now and it’s amazing I perform with a blindfold on and I can tell the people what dices they rolled quite amazing trick 


If anybody is still interested, Jack Miller sold an effect called “Slip off Spots”. The effect has a similar flavor as Daryl’s Dicey Dot’s. The difference being the die is faced with Hotrod Gems. Like Daryl, you utilize the Bobo S........ & the P M........, the gems vanish from the cube and appear on the stick. Extremely effective to go right into your standard Hot Rod routine. If anyone is interested I can connect you to a possible source. BWind 


Not exactly a trick but I thought this short clip of a handful of dice switches might be of interest here, as I imagine some of the routines mentioned possibly require or perhaps would benefit from a switch? In any case, enjoy a few switches: https://vimeo.com/298806360/f86234f3c0 


I was wondering what the trick is called that Mark Shortland and another magician that performs the Game of Phones as I am wanting to do this for a magic competition I am going in ? 


I'll agree with Crazy Cube. If you're a good actor this little trick gets some of the best reactions you'll ever see. Every time I've done this it gets genuine gasps. I love it. :die: 


Could someone explain to me (perhaps via PM) what the exact difference is between a sureshot dice box and an Eli dice box? Thanks! 


Alexander, the two effects are two different props entirely. Both work with different methods. The Sure Shot dice box works with 2 dice, Eli dice box works with 3 dice. Both or numerical revelations, but accomplished by different methods. PM me for any hidden information on them, any other information should go into Secret sessions as not to make public to everyone. Frederick 


[quote]On Dec 11, 2018, PoofDaddy wrote: [quote]On Dec 10, 2018, Oil&Water wrote: Another die effect I like, Get 2 dice rolled with your backed turned, Spectator adds both up, He or she then chooses any one and looks at the opposing end and adds that to the total, He or she throws that die again and adds that to the total, With your back turned ask for the total, deduct 7 and that will give the total of the 2 dice currently showing upwards. You will also be able to tell them it’s a 4 and 4 showing. Example 4 and 2 thrown = 6 Spec adds the reverse of the 2 ie 5 so total so =11 Then throws the 2 and gets another 4 so total is now 15 which is announced to you. deduct 7 = 8 and you can tell them that 2 x 4,s are uppermost on both die. If it’s 9 there is a way of knowing whether it’s 5/4 6/3 but too long to explain here. Enjoy Olly [/quote] Where can this effect be found? (Book, dvd, lecture notes)? Sounds like a fairly mathematical system but not overly hard to do in your head. [/quote] That's Mental DieMensional By Sudo : http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/11183 A nice piece of magic with 2 standard dice. Not too mathy. Enjoy! 


"It's the Rules", by Bob Sheets. It takes Dr. Sacks to the next level. 


There is Winners Dice by Secret Factory, more of a gimmick than a trick but a few tricks are shown on the trailer. It is not using ordinary dice but it rolls normally if you want it to so it could be used for many other dice effects I would think. 


Do you believe in Chance by Jan Forster is an absolute gamechanger for me. 


Best dice matrix in my opinion: Charlie Frye's Dice Matrix on Eccentricks Vol 1 Second best dice matrix in my opinion: Steve Dacri Dice Routine on Magic of Steve Dacri No Filler Volume 2. A dice matrix with one of the dice escaping/teleporting from a box during the matrix. 


James Lewis' version of the Dr. Sack Routine is not only my favorite dice routine , it's also my "go to" routine if I'm asked to do a trick. This came out on VHS about 25 years ago and, as far as I know, never made it to DVD, so as time has passed I suspect it's been forgotten and is pretty much unknown by newer magicians. The reactions I get from a seemingly simple trick are what performing magic is all about. 


The recently released book, "Dice Mysteries" by Steve Drury, may be of interest. 


I perform Dice Stacking, Die Vision (Color Vision), "It's the Rules!" by Bob Sheets and Loaded Dice by Alan Wakeling on a regular basis and they are among the strongest effects in my professional repertoire. Also, incorporating Aniverdi or ProMystic dice take the aforementioned to a whole new level. 


I've thought for a long time that it would be fun to do the Sack dice routine with two ProMystic type dice, then have the spectator point to one and do some of the Mental Die effects. 


I released an effect years ago that uses dice. It takes advantage of the number 14 force to create a completely self working color changing deck effect. It is called "Dicewave." Here is a video of Brian Brushwood performing it on Scam School! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0dBjVah2wo 


I almost forgot about the classic Top & Die [img]https://www.magictricks.com/assets/images/trickspix/topdice.jpg[/img] 


There is a good closeup table routine with a solid presentation in Volume 1 of ART OF CLOSEUP MAGIC by Lewis Ganson. The effect was contributed to the book by Horace Bennett, who dubbed it, "Unfair Shake." 


If you're looking for BIG dice for an effect, I spotted wooden lawn dice at Cabela's. They're maybe 3  4" square  6 for $30. 


It looks like Badlands Bob has been updated and there are 3 versions to pick from. How do you choose? 


I have used Corleone dice as a chop cup routine with the TCC leather cup  the dice magnet isn't too strong so be a bit careful. Anyone have any ideas for the Corleone dice? 


Just A Cup By Alex Hecklau. https://www.axelhecklaushop.com/lng/en/magicroutinestricks/justacupperformancerightsscriptdvdtools.html?language=en Doug 


[quote]On May 27, 2021, dfolson wrote: It looks like Badlands Bob has been updated and there are 3 versions to pick from. How do you choose? [/quote] I find the new third version very interesting: Badlands Bob II with Red Die Climax 


This teak wood die prediction is very well done ⭐️ and does not require any touch Unusual design and can briefly inspected by spectator before the demonstration [youtube]ZIbeozZpLv4[/youtube] 


Rainbow Dice by Ton Onosaka; the opener in my platform shows https://www.martinsmagic.com/allmagic/stage/rainbowdicebytononosaka3/ 