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Topic: Chinese coins for holy moly
Message: Posted by: shakuni (Sep 25, 2012 03:36PM)
Has anyone found suitable Chinese coins for the holy moly effect yet? Please let me know. Thanks.
Message: Posted by: jimhlou (Sep 25, 2012 07:04PM)
Have you seen this done with Chinese coins? I have only seen it done with metal washers. Perhaps Joker Magic could make you one (jokermagic.com)

Jim
Message: Posted by: Jimeh (Sep 26, 2012 07:46AM)
You would need a Chinese coin with two holes for the finale, no?
Message: Posted by: shakuni (Sep 26, 2012 09:15AM)
@jimhlou

Haven't seen it yet, I was hoping that someone here will point me out to the right direction. I will check jokermagic.com, thanks for suggestion.

@Jimeh

The main problem is to have a chinese coin with no hole, that resembles with the ones with holes.
Message: Posted by: professorwhut (Sep 26, 2012 09:41AM)
You could make your own out of wood. Paint them, and age them. Pass them off as really ancient coins.
Craft stores sometimes have pre-cut wood items, might find some discs that way.
Message: Posted by: shakuni (Sep 26, 2012 10:58AM)
@professorwhut Great idea sir. Thanks for help :)
Message: Posted by: jimhlou (Sep 26, 2012 07:00PM)
That is a great idea. I may make a set for myself.

Jim
Message: Posted by: thatmatt (Sep 28, 2012 10:39AM)
I didn't know the Holy Moly effect could be done with Chinese coins. I remember watching Jay Sankey's DVD and it only mentioned metal washers.

@ professorwhut, I don't quite see how one could pass wooden coins for metal, regardless of how well they may be painted.
Message: Posted by: Vlad_77 (Sep 28, 2012 12:12PM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-28 11:39, thatmatt wrote:
I didn't know the Holy Moly effect could be done with Chinese coins. I remember watching Jay Sankey's DVD and it only mentioned metal washers.

@ professorwhut, I don't quite see how one could pass wooden coins for metal, regardless of how well they may be painted.
[/quote]

Given the effect, the coins wouldn't have to be passed off as wood.
Message: Posted by: professorwhut (Sep 28, 2012 01:27PM)
@thatmattt

I never said anyone should try and pass off wood as metal. That would be ridiculous.

I was simply trying to give the man an easy way to achieve his goal.
Make em out of anything, wood, plastic, stone, cardboard, exiting washers and slugs.
Maybe even paint or etch an actual Holy Moley set.

Good Lord, do we need to put disclaimers after every post we make in the blasted place?
Message: Posted by: Vlad_77 (Sep 29, 2012 03:10AM)
Geeze, I jusr re-read my post, I meant that in Holey Moley, the props need to have to be passed of as METAL. IMHO, the effect would just as strong with ANY material

@Professorwhut: I feel your pain man
Message: Posted by: professorwhut (Sep 29, 2012 08:32AM)
Viad
I could tell by your post, what you your trying to say.

I have been thinking about actually carving some out of wood.
I have no intention of trying to make them look like metal.
Message: Posted by: jimhlou (Sep 29, 2012 09:23AM)
I would not do the effect with cookie dough. The spectator might think you poke the hole in the disk when they're not looking. However, ANY hard material that required drilling a hole would work - or ceramic disks with the hole molded in.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Sep 29, 2012 11:49AM)
Chinese coins would actually be a great idea! People generally know that Chinese coins have a hole in the center...I bet some gaff coin makers would help!
Message: Posted by: Lawrence O (Oct 2, 2012 03:02AM)
Another way could be to fill up the hole in the center of a Chinese coin and paste a tiny square gold tape on each side for one coin. For the other coin use a drill

Now if you decide to go the wooden way, you could give a coin to check and then using the extremely difficult to do Shuttle Pass, switch the metallic coin for the wooden one as the other coin is examined... You could even suggest that you don't hold anything else in your hand by using a Vernon Change Over Palm before doing the Shuttle Pass: this would enable your spectators to see both of your hands to be empty apart from the coin openly displayed when you would still be handling your wooden coin (or your doubly holed coin)...
Message: Posted by: MagicMason (Nov 20, 2012 03:47PM)
I lost my holy moly washers. It is not possible to get new ones through Jay without buying the dvd again. (They do not sell just the gimmicked washers). Any idea where I can get new ones... who might make them?
Thanks!
Tom
Message: Posted by: randirain (Nov 20, 2012 04:05PM)
The silicone that I use to make my molds can handle low melt metal like pewter, and you can buy a small crucible for $50.
I have been thinking about making coins for magicians.

Anyone think it would be worth doing?

Randi
Message: Posted by: Gabeauer (May 18, 2017 08:12AM)
I'm trying to buy HOly Moly, but everyone is out of stock, so I'm trying to make one. I know the outside diameter is almost exactly the same as a half dollar, but I don't know the diameter of the hole. Can you help me?
Thanks,
Gabe Auerbach
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (May 18, 2017 03:35PM)
Have you tried Jay Sankey himself? The trick (with props) is listed on his website. He's added a prop and a phase to the original routine.

https://sankey-magic.myshopify.com/collections/coin-magic/products/holy-moly-1
Message: Posted by: Boomer (May 29, 2017 01:45AM)
Holy Moly:
OD - 1 1/8" (1.125")
ID - 1/4" (0.25")


Dave
Message: Posted by: Poof-Daddy (May 29, 2017 05:33PM)
The "New Version" looks great and it looks as though you also get a "Karate Coin" type gimmick made with another washer. I would think it would be worth $20 to buy the whole thing (especially considering there are new phases). I have certainly spent more on less before. :-)
Message: Posted by: Boomer (May 29, 2017 05:45PM)
I bought it from Jay a few weeks ago. You get 5 washers and a link to a 46 minute video.

The reactions I got from my wife and son (who put up with me for some reason) were the best I've gotten for anything I've ever shown them.


Dave
Message: Posted by: Poof-Daddy (Jun 9, 2017 01:36AM)
I ordered it and shortly thereafter got the link to the video. (before the props came) He mentions right off that they are no longer half dollar size as he has an "actual washer company making them for him now" and my heart kind of dropped since I have big hands and I really wanted the Karate coin phase. Quarter size is way too small for my "meat paws" and I noticed on the trailer - a washer on the back of a deck of bikes, it was about the same size as the center circle which is about 1". However, I got the pops today and when held on top of a half dollar, only the very rim of the half shows so the size is good. (mt finger fits perfectly in the Karate coin too). Very happy with it. :-)
Message: Posted by: warren (Jul 8, 2017 02:35PM)
Interesting thread as I to tried to get Holy Moly made up with Chinese coins and actually contacted a couple of coin gaff makers but they wasn't able to help me.....such a pity as it would greatly enhance an already great effect...By enhance what I mean is that at a high end gig I would much rather use coins than washers.
Message: Posted by: Krazyjay (Jul 8, 2017 06:32PM)
So have you guys tried contacting Roy Kueppers. He made the original holy Moly for Jay. It doesn't seem too hard to make in chinese coins.
Message: Posted by: Poof-Daddy (Jul 8, 2017 10:03PM)
I personally do not think Chinese Coins would add anything to the effect. He even makes a big deal in his newer version (the one I just got) about having a company that actually makes washers do the gimmicks for him. I believe the old set looks just as good as the new set. However, I dom like that I got the "bonus karate coin" washer in my set.
Message: Posted by: warren (Jul 12, 2017 12:43PM)
[quote]On Jul 8, 2017, Krazyjay wrote:
So have you guys tried contacting Roy Kueppers. He made the original holy Moly for Jay. It doesn't seem too hard to make in chinese coins. [/quote]

The problem is filling the hole in the coin at least that's what I've been told :(

Poof-Daddy wanting to use Chinese Coins for holy moly isn't about adding to the effect at least for me it's not as I think the routine is excellent, however if working a high end gig using Chinese coins as opposed to washers would be more appropriate than using old discoloured washers.
Message: Posted by: David French (Jul 13, 2017 08:21AM)
My two cents. High end gigs are all about YOU. I use the washers everywhere. It is a great trick and to ME that is the key, ordinary objects. "High end" people know what they are and it works great. But this is my experience. We all have different ways.
Message: Posted by: warren (Jul 14, 2017 02:08AM)
[quote]On Jul 13, 2017, David French wrote:
My two cents. High end gigs are all about YOU. I use the washers everywhere. It is a great trick and to ME that is the key, ordinary objects. "High end" people know what they are and it works great. But this is my experience. We all have different ways. [/quote]

I agree however I would rather drive a ferrari than a mini it gives a better image ;-)
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Aug 20, 2017 05:01PM)
[quote]On May 29, 2017, Boomer wrote:
Holy Moly:
OD - 1 1/8" (1.125")
ID - 1/4" (0.25")


Dave [/quote]

Great that saves a lot of investigative work. Thanks