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Topic: Chalk for Docc Hilford's "Raven Slates"?
Message: Posted by: tpax (Nov 12, 2012 05:46PM)
I just got this in a bundle and there isn't any of the "special" chalk. Anyone know where to find it?
The slates are in pristine shape.
Message: Posted by: RCP (Nov 12, 2012 07:14PM)
Have you tried Docc?
Message: Posted by: tpax (Nov 12, 2012 09:44PM)
I have sent Docc a few emails and no response.
Message: Posted by: jesse_james_mcguire (Nov 15, 2012 01:10AM)
I have also emailed him several times to get some and never get any response.. I have lost mine over a yr ago..
Message: Posted by: Sean-Paul (Nov 17, 2012 11:06AM)
I recently bought some vintage "visible slate writing" chalk made by Abbotts years ago. The Directions were incomplete and not helpfull at all.


From what I understand on another thread from a few years back the book, "MODEREN CHEMICAL MAGIC" has all the info on the chalk and chemicals. Once I get the book I will report back on my findings.
Message: Posted by: Tim Dowd (Nov 19, 2012 08:32AM)
Docc just got or is getting married... so that might be the reason for the delay... did you purchase the slates directly from him?
Message: Posted by: mstgracy (Nov 19, 2012 04:12PM)
I have some from back in the 60's I sent for free to someone who needed it. If you pay shipping I would be happy to send it to you as I don't use it.

Cheers Kyle.

PM me.
Message: Posted by: B.Clay (Nov 19, 2012 09:12PM)
Read Burling Hull. It's in "World of Mentalism." You can make it yourself, but I would double the amount of gum arabic given the quality of most available chalk these days. Just my 2....

Regards,
B.
Message: Posted by: jonnyboy (Nov 19, 2012 09:38PM)
Docc just took some time from his honeymoon to make a special (and very informative) cameo appearance, with his lovely new bride in attendance, at MindVention last week in Vegas. So he may be a little too busy to answer emails right now.
Message: Posted by: tpax (Nov 24, 2012 09:13PM)
I saw a post from Docc on another board that he is moving to a Island in the Bahammas with his new wife.
Thanks for the info on chemical magic and Burling Hull. I hope to take Kyle up on his offer.
Tom
Message: Posted by: mstgracy (Nov 25, 2012 05:04AM)
And it will be done. Its still in packaging and has the directions.
Message: Posted by: tpax (Dec 1, 2012 07:56AM)
Got it, Thanks!
Message: Posted by: Docc Hilford (Dec 1, 2012 11:26PM)
Hi there.

I don't supply the chalk separately.
For the very reasons underlying here.
People who buy the slates from me can get the chalk.
It's only available when I have it and only to original purchasers.
And BTW, I supply more than you will ever need in a lifetime.
I've used one piece for over 3 years!

When people resell the slates or try to make their own, I can't sell the gimmick separately.
It's the same with most special equiptment in metalism.

And good luck trying to make the chalk with Hull's instructions.
If you do as suggested and double gum arabic you will have a rock!
The formula we use is updated and special chalk is made from scratch.

Why not buy from the creator?

Peace,
Docc
Message: Posted by: jesse_james_mcguire (Dec 2, 2012 11:24PM)
I did buy one at magic in the Rockies (2 yrs ago) after watching you do it on stage, and have moved 2x since then and don't know where the heck the chalk is. I think it got thrown out by my evil ex-girlfriend as she threw away half of my magic.. That was a bad day for me.. Lost lots of stuff.
Message: Posted by: RNK (Dec 20, 2012 01:01PM)
[quote]
On 2012-12-02 00:26, Docc Hilford wrote:
Hi there.

I don't supply the chalk separately.
For the very reasons underlying here.
People who buy the slates from me can get the chalk.
It's only available when I have it and only to original purchasers.
And BTW, I supply more than you will ever need in a lifetime.
I've used one piece for over 3 years!

When people resell the slates or try to make their own, I can't sell the gimmick separately.
It's the same with most special equiptment in metalism.

And good luck trying to make the chalk with Hull's instructions.
If you do as suggested and double gum arabic you will have a rock!
The formula we use is updated and special chalk is made from scratch.

Why not buy from the creator?

Peace,
Docc
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: RNK (Dec 20, 2012 01:04PM)
[quote]
On 2012-12-02 00:26, Docc Hilford wrote:
Hi there.

I don't supply the chalk separately.
For the very reasons underlying here.
People who buy the slates from me can get the chalk.
It's only available when I have it and only to original purchasers.
And BTW, I supply more than you will ever need in a lifetime.
I've used one piece for over 3 years!

When people resell the slates or try to make their own, I can't sell the gimmick separately.
It's the same with most special equiptment in metalism.

And good luck trying to make the chalk with Hull's instructions.
If you do as suggested and double gum arabic you will have a rock!
The formula we use is updated and special chalk is made from scratch.

Why not buy from the creator?

Peace,
Docc
[/quote]

Well that's a bunch of bull... I was going to buy these from someone here but Docc apparently won't sell the chalk because I bought it used. That's pretty shallow if you ask me. Shame.... And this, "When people resell the slates or try to make their own, I can't sell the gimmick separately.
It's the same with most special equiptment in metalism." I never had a problem with any other creator purchasing an accessory I needed for something that was not bought from them. Oh well, guess he only wants limited business...
Message: Posted by: RCP (Dec 20, 2012 03:33PM)
[quote]
On 2012-12-20 14:04, RNK wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-12-02 00:26, Docc Hilford wrote:
Hi there.

I don't supply the chalk separately.
For the very reasons underlying here.
People who buy the slates from me can get the chalk.
It's only available when I have it and only to original purchasers.
And BTW, I supply more than you will ever need in a lifetime.
I've used one piece for over 3 years!

When people resell the slates or try to make their own, I can't sell the gimmick separately.
It's the same with most special equiptment in metalism.

And good luck trying to make the chalk with Hull's instructions.
If you do as suggested and double gum arabic you will have a rock!
The formula we use is updated and special chalk is made from scratch.

Why not buy from the creator?

Peace,
Docc
[/quote]

Well that's a bunch of bull... I was going to buy these from someone here but Docc apparently won't sell the chalk because I bought it used. That's pretty shallow if you ask me. Shame.... And this, "When people resell the slates or try to make their own, I can't sell the gimmick separately.
It's the same with most special equiptment in metalism." I never had a problem with any other creator purchasing an accessory I needed for something that was not bought from them. Oh well, guess he only wants limited business...
[/quote]

Shaking head in disbelief.......wtf