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Topic: Wing suit flying
Message: Posted by: scottds80 (Dec 3, 2012 02:44AM)
Would you ever try this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmlAW_1hgT8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Dec 3, 2012 03:34AM)
Nope! Looks like fun, though.
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Dec 3, 2012 07:32AM)
It looks like Rocky the Squirrel!
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Dec 3, 2012 09:04AM)
Yes, but technically it's not flying. The illusion and the experience are probably awesome.
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Dec 4, 2012 02:47AM)
I've posted about this twice before. It seems wonderful and spectacular, but it is crazy-dangerous.

Listen to this TED talk (with video) by the late Ueli Gegenschatz, who died from a base jump just a few months after his talk:

http://www.ted.com/talks/ueli_gegenschatz_extreme_wingsuit_jumping.html
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Dec 4, 2012 04:20AM)
Gegenschatz died jumping for a Red Bull promo. I wonder if that makes them responsible for his death...
Message: Posted by: Corey K (Dec 4, 2012 01:58PM)
I'm an active skydiver with 800 jumps under my belt. I've flown wing suits in the past. Not my forte, but an awesome experience nonetheless. Just an FYI, you need a minimum of 200 skydives before flying a wingsuit. It's a lot different than your average skydive.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Dec 5, 2012 11:09AM)
Back in 1979, Isaac Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine ran a story about a guy who was hired to help a problem on a space station.

The station had a "zero gravity" area in the center of the rotating tube and it dawned on the managers of the station that this would be an idea place for a flying area if they could just get the wings to work properly. So they hired a tailor to design better wings.

The tailor's idea was to scrap the wings completely and opt for a "dolphin style" flying suit very similar to what is being used here.

Can't imagine using it in a one-g gravity field!

Here's a copy of the cover showing how the artist imagined the suit.

http://www.amazon.com/Asimovs-Science-Fiction-Magazine-November/dp/B0019LX61O
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Dec 6, 2012 11:06AM)
[quote]
On 2012-12-04 14:58, Corey K wrote:
I'm an active skydiver with 800 jumps under my belt. I've flown wing suits in the past. Not my forte, but an awesome experience nonetheless. Just an FYI, you need a minimum of 200 skydives before flying a wingsuit. It's a lot different than your average skydive.
[/quote]

Is that enforceable? Also, do you do a lot of plane dives with the wingsuit before you ever do a basejump?
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Dec 6, 2012 11:11AM)
http://xtremesport4u.com/extreme-air-sports/a-solemn-warning-to-wingsuit-flyers/

All extreme sports are dangerous, some more than others, and wingsuit flying and BASEjumping probably the most dangerous of all. We found this little list of statistics on fatalities in extreme sports over the past 5 years per 1,000 participants. Anyone with an ambition to climb K2 might take note of these figures too!


Skydiving: 3.3
Base Jumping: 44
Hang Gliding/Paragliding: 3.8
Summiting K2: 104
ATV Riding: 0.5
Scuba Diving: .06
Snowboarding: .05

Although wingsuit flying is not on the list (there is probably not enough data to work with yet) it is probably somewhere between skydiving and BASEjumping. It is an interesting aside, though, that fatality rates were very high during the developmental period for this extreme sport. Between 1930 and 1961, 71 out of 75 people died trying to perfect a wingsuit.
Message: Posted by: Dennis Michael (Dec 6, 2012 12:12PM)
Maybe in my younger and dumber days.
Message: Posted by: dave_matkin (Dec 7, 2012 02:19PM)
[quote]
On 2012-12-03 10:04, Tom Cutts wrote:
Yes, but technically it's not flying. The illusion and the experience are probably awesome.
[/quote]


It's falling ........ With style! :)
Message: Posted by: dave_matkin (Dec 7, 2012 02:24PM)
On the BASE jump thing .....

I heard on the morning news this week that the worlds highest suspension bridge has opened. I wonder ow long it will be before its base is jumped and I looses it's platform cherry?
Message: Posted by: Corey K (Mar 5, 2013 04:51PM)
Yes, it's very enforceable. It may not seem like it to outsiders but the sport of skydiving is heavily regulated. Also, yeah, you have to do lots of wingsuit skydives before considering throwing yourself off of a cliff with one. The margin for error is a lot smaller, and with a BASE jump, there is no reserve parachute.
Message: Posted by: Daryl -the other brother (Mar 7, 2013 03:25PM)
I'm a skydiver also. Haven't had the opportunity to try a wingsuit but I love to open high (@ 13,000) and fly around the OUTSIDE of clouds.
Message: Posted by: balducci (May 11, 2015 10:37PM)
Wingsuits are sooo passe.

You want kicks, try this:

http://www.theverge.com/tldr/2015/5/11/8587941/jetpacks-yves-rossy-dubai-balloon-boy
Message: Posted by: tommy (May 11, 2015 11:07PM)
Wow that is cool.

Like gambling with your life for thrill.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (May 11, 2015 11:15PM)
How in the world does this contraption not produce enough heat to cook the pilot? Anyone?
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (May 12, 2015 01:09AM)
"I'm not playing with death; I'm playing with life."

Keep playing, wherever you are and whatever you do.

(That said, two other things: Magnus has a point. Second, the dude is crazy. Just like Uuli Gegenschatz.)

Thanks for the link, Balducci. And the Dubai Tourism Agency.
Message: Posted by: Vonschwager (May 12, 2015 02:14AM)
I would never play with gravity.
Dubai must be the place to go for thrills.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7SRYUN5o9w
and this video is just jumping, not flying.
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (May 12, 2015 04:01AM)
[quote]On May 12, 2015, Vonschwager wrote:
I would never play with gravity.
[/quote]

Me neither. I'm afraid of heights. Nothing in any of these videos is something I would do myself. And I'm not even sure I admire it. But they are choosing to live their lives (or risk their lives) according to some kind of internal drive that I do indeed respect. Some people have to pick up a guitar. Some people have to play around with playing cards all day long. Some people envy birds. It's all good.

That said, I would hate to be on vacation and watch some dude splatter himself on the sidewalk in front of me because he wanted to be a bird.

That said, there was a thread here a while back about some dude who splattered himself on a bridge in front of a fellow Café member because he wanted to kill himself.

There is a difference between walking the line between life and death and simply choosing death.

Choosing life is cool.
Message: Posted by: Vonschwager (May 12, 2015 05:04AM)
I remember this event when I was younger, came back to mind when the grandson tightroped the canyon.

I won't post a link, just that it's Karl Wallenda last walk on youtube
(WARNING, gravity wins)
Message: Posted by: ClintonMagus (May 12, 2015 07:40AM)
[quote]On May 12, 2015, stoneunhinged wrote:
[quote]On May 12, 2015, Vonschwager wrote:
I would never play with gravity.
[/quote]

Me neither. I'm afraid of heights. [/quote]

I, like Steven Wright, am more afraid of widths...
Message: Posted by: Starrpower (May 12, 2015 11:06AM)
I wouldn't do that on a bet. If I'm gonna die from doing something dangerous, it's gonna be eating red meat.
Message: Posted by: ZachDavenport (May 12, 2015 11:35AM)
[quote]On Dec 7, 2012, dave_matkin wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-12-03 10:04, Tom Cutts wrote:
Yes, but technically it's not flying. The illusion and the experience are probably awesome.
[/quote]


It's falling ........ With style! :) [/quote]
I was just about to write that. Beat me to it.
Message: Posted by: Bob1Dog (May 12, 2015 11:54AM)
Looks like the link flew straight to the ground.
Message: Posted by: Theodore Lawton (May 12, 2015 04:16PM)
I would LOVE to do wingsuit flying/falling. I researched it briefly before learning I was to heavy to even skydive. :lol:

And it's not all fat either. I'm 6' and I've lifted a few weights besides cheeseburgers in my time.

My uncle died skydiving and I spent much of my childhood afraid of heights- unrelated. But I made a conscious effort to overcome my fear and have done a pretty good job.

I actually like the idea of the wingsuit more than regular skydiving. But, it is what it is... off limits for me.

Rope Jumping is another crazy "sport"... endeavor, what have you, that in no way interests me. I'm surprised it is still allowed and is becoming more popular considering Dan Osman died doing it as the pioneer of the activity. You basically fling yourself off a cliff and allow only ropes to stop your descent.

While we're on the subject and I'm rambling as usual... para gliding looks beautiful too. Austrian valley... soaring like a bird.
Message: Posted by: Vonschwager (May 12, 2015 07:08PM)
[quote]On Dec 7, 2012, dave_matkin wrote:
It's falling ........ With style! :) [/quote]


The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy states:
"There is an art to flying, or rather a knack. Its knack lies in learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss.
Message: Posted by: NYCTwister (May 13, 2015 09:45AM)
After the initial WOW!, three things came to mind -

1. The architecture and skyline of Dubai is incredible.
2. If they ever figure out how to take off and land, without helicopters and parachutes, it could become a mode of transportation.
3. It will probably end up being used by some military, sooner rather than later.
Message: Posted by: balducci (May 20, 2015 07:48AM)
On Saturday, "Dean Potter, 43, died during a wingsuit flight from Yosemite National Park's Taft Point."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/may/18/extreme-athlete-dean-potter-among-two-killed-base-jumping-in-yosemite

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/05/18/407665150/two-base-jumpers-die-on-wingsuit-flight-in-yosemite

https://youtu.be/VDwzYkfweMM

https://youtu.be/DuTrujUR1bA

https://youtu.be/zXdrvLeXyE4

Apparently about 50 have died wingsuiting over the last 18 months.

(I'll stop here for one of you to make the obligatory observation that more have died eating spaghetti or something like that during the same time period.)
Message: Posted by: rockwall (May 20, 2015 03:34PM)
[quote]On May 20, 2015, balducci wrote:
...
Apparently about 50 have died wingsuiting over the last 18 months.

(I'll stop here for one of you to make the obligatory observation that more have died eating spaghetti or something like that during the same time period.) [/quote]

Only if you're going to insist on trying to outlaw it!
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (May 20, 2015 03:51PM)
Well, that would be an obligatory insistence on the part of some.
Message: Posted by: rockwall (May 20, 2015 03:56PM)
Hey, if it saves just ONE life!
Message: Posted by: acesover (May 20, 2015 04:48PM)
I already did this. Of course it was at Soarin’ at Epcot. My favorite ride. But then I am kind of old. :)