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Topic: Lukas - Artist
Message: Posted by: RJH (Dec 17, 2012 12:20AM)
Where can I get this DVD? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeRJuzrmxOo

RJH
Message: Posted by: Oliver Ross (Dec 19, 2012 12:18PM)
Hi RJH,


Here's the aswer to your question after some research on the internet :

http://www.gycklaren.com/en/articles/2.75.2112/artist-by-lukas-dvd

I couldn't find the product anywhere else...Sorry

It seems that he braught out another DVD called Artist System but I couldn't find it yet. I've heard that he sells his DVDs during the lectures he's giving.


Oliver.
Message: Posted by: bojanbarisic (Dec 19, 2012 02:34PM)
Artist System is still in production, it will be on the market in January.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Dec 19, 2012 04:26PM)
Oliver Ross, thank you for your hard work at finding this DVD set. I Googled and could not find, it is very hard to get Google to search all countries for some reason. Good job!

At $135.00 plus $12.00 or $48.00 postage, one should be commited to learn these moves.

Even though RJH did not thank you, I will say Thank You. It is very hard finding this type of unique material.
Message: Posted by: bojanbarisic (Dec 19, 2012 04:44PM)
Bill price for that set is 90 $ + shipping
Message: Posted by: Oliver Ross (Dec 19, 2012 05:50PM)
You're warmly welcome Bill, and RJH aswell.

As you Bill, I like our magic community to go further in our art and share information and / or experience I might have and or find.
Even though I don't own the DVD (yet) I agree with you, that this is a major investment.So, one should really take the time to master the moves.

Thank you bojanbarisic for the supplementary information concerning the Artist System DVD. I can't wait to see the trailer.

Oliver.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Dec 19, 2012 10:28PM)
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On 2012-12-19 17:44, bojanbarisic wrote:
Bill price for that set is 90 $ + shipping
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Bojan, when I click on the web address given the English page states in U.S. Dollars $135. Then I read the postage page, and it gave the only 2 postage rates they charge.
Message: Posted by: RJH (Dec 20, 2012 12:10AM)
Hello guys. I haven't been in the Café for a while. Oliver, thank you. I might get Artist. Yes, it cost ALOT. I will wait if Penguin magic gets it some day.

RJH
Message: Posted by: bojanbarisic (Dec 20, 2012 01:46PM)
Penguin will never get it. Next bunch that will sell in January will be only available in JL magic store in Korea and they already have so many pre-orders it is most likely sold out. Bill I didn`d say it doesn`t cost that much in that shop, I gave you regular price for that set if you buy it on his lecture, if you order from Kisuk Lee or if you buy at JL magic. I still have one extra set for sale if someone is interested in it.

Best,
Bojan
Message: Posted by: Brad Lancaster (Dec 21, 2012 05:59AM)
I contacted JL earlier this week and the price is 90 plus shipping.
Message: Posted by: Kendrix (Dec 29, 2012 02:47PM)
Lukas performed at the Genii Bash in Orlando and was terrific. He got one of the best responses from the audience.
Message: Posted by: RJH (Feb 17, 2013 07:04AM)
Hello guys. Today I was checking Penguin magic, and searched manipulation... Penguin has Artist for 95 dollars and Artist System for 60 dollars.


RJH
Message: Posted by: Oliver Ross (Feb 18, 2013 03:46PM)
Just a stupid question : How comes that the prices of both DVD are $40,- less expensive than the original price ?

Oliver.
Message: Posted by: RJH (Feb 18, 2013 11:58PM)
What do you mean by original price? When I asked JL magic, they had the same prices.

RJH
Message: Posted by: Oliver Ross (Feb 19, 2013 12:29AM)
RJH,


I mean Gycklaren were the first to sell the first Artist DVD with a price of $135,-. Why does Penguinmagic sells the same product for $95,- now ? Why this difference in price ?

I've seen the same prices, as Bill state earlier in this thread.

Oliver.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Feb 19, 2013 01:38AM)
Oliver, I would say it all has to do with currency exchanges and the different value of money in different countries. I would bet Korea is over charging for their DVDs to make the price compatible with current prices in the U.S. and European magic market. 1 U.S. dollar equals about 1000 won (a won is their dollar), that means they make $1000 when they receive 1 dollar. So they are over charging to keep up the prices in America and Europe.

If the price was correct, if they had to purchase a DVD that cost $90, they would have to pay 90,000.00 of their won dollars to purchase the DVD.

I rounded the example to simplify. (1 dollar = .0001 won) Notice that is 1000 time less then the U.S. dollar.
Message: Posted by: RJH (Feb 19, 2013 06:20AM)
Thanks for the information Bill

RJH
Message: Posted by: Oliver Ross (Feb 19, 2013 02:10PM)
Thank you very much for this information Bill. How comes that I didn't think about that earlier...

Oliver.
Message: Posted by: RJH (Mar 8, 2013 07:47AM)
Today I got my Artist Visual and Artist System from Penguin magic. They're excellent. Professionally made, clear instructions... I love it.

RJH
Message: Posted by: dahih beik (Mar 8, 2013 08:41AM)
Could you give a review
Message: Posted by: bojanbarisic (Mar 8, 2013 10:30AM)
Haha, why do you need a review ? You can`t wait 2-3 more days to watch it yourself :)
Message: Posted by: RJH (Mar 8, 2013 11:09AM)
I'm not a review guy... If you're serious about manipulation get them. The moves are explained very well, but some of them Lukas doesn't go in-depth because he wants you to be creative. The Artist series if not for beginners. First Lukas teaches you basic skills ( Backpalms, ball rolls etc) and then he explains his routines. There are like 13 routines for cards and balls both. Artist System is top of the iceberg, it's marvelous. If you have seen it, you'll know what I mean.
Hope this helps you a little Dahih. Waiting for the next DVD in the Artist series. :)

RJH
Message: Posted by: dahih beik (Mar 8, 2013 12:08PM)
Its killing me .
Message: Posted by: AbsoluteZero (Mar 8, 2013 12:16PM)
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On 2013-03-08 13:08, dahih beik wrote:
Its killing me .
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Killing you in what sense?

I would like to point out that Artist lacks information on holders. Lukas probably assumes the viewers are familiar with those?
Message: Posted by: dahih beik (Mar 8, 2013 12:59PM)
I m looking forward to recieve the artist visual and system , it has been a long time since a dvd draws my attention .
Message: Posted by: RJH (Mar 9, 2013 03:19AM)
Modern times in Artist System is great. I will TRY to make it some day....

RJH
Message: Posted by: AbsoluteZero (Mar 11, 2013 04:47AM)
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On 2013-03-08 13:59, dahih beik wrote:
I m looking forward to recieve the artist visual and system , it has been a long time since a dvd draws my attention .
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The Artist set is a great guide for beginner to intermediate ball enthusiasts. What impresses me the most is the fluency and the beauty of basic sleight executions.
Message: Posted by: MikeTheKid (Mar 24, 2013 12:46PM)
Its good, but sometime is a bit hard to follow up, you have to watch over and over again.

great dvd overall
Message: Posted by: JeremyTan (Jul 14, 2013 12:45PM)
http://www.lukascrafts.com and many other cool stuff!
Message: Posted by: PhilMagicGuy (Aug 15, 2013 11:25PM)
I was actually very disappointed with this DVD set. There are a couple positive reviews here saying things were explained well, and I feel that's very misleading. Nothing was really explained. Just demonstrated.

There is a lot of good to be said about it, yes. His skill is beyond words. The artistry in his presentation is just beautiful. And many of the "lessons" are in fact clear to follow.

However, it's not being sold to delight us with his skill. It's being sold to teach, and it doesn't do a great job. Essentially, these aren't lessons. They are demonstrations.

It's another one of those silent teaching DVDs, but there is so much that should be said about what's going on. Some of the "lessons" are lacking in so many ways because I'm left with so many questions. And the layout of the DVD (I really feel I must be missing something here, 'cause this seems too wrong to be real) is absurd. There is no "play all" function. The demonstrations and the lessons are in separate menus so you have to play one, go back to the main menu, enter the lesson menu, watch the lesson, and then when you want to view the audience perspective again, you have to go back to the main menu... etc etc. Watching this on my TV was impossible. I needed to watch it through my computer to make this menu jumping somewhat easier.

What bugs me most about this though, is the word "system" in the title. There is nothing "system" about it. It's another DVD showing some skills and demonstrating -- not teaching -- how they are executed. There are some very short routines, but there is no insight into these routines. The most frustrating thing for me though, is the complete lack of discussion, demonstration or suggestion on how to get into any of these routines. Each routine assumes you walk in front of your audience preset for that particular routine. But that's not what happens. How does he transition from routine to routine? Where is the ball before he gets it in his hand to make it appear and vanish and change colour? Yes, I can figure a lot of this out on my own or use my current methods, but I paid for a "system" and a lesson. I want to see how this particular magician handles this so I can learn from it.

This is lacking from The Artist System and the Artist Cards & Balls.

What I've learned is valuable and I'll go back to these DVDs in the future to keep learning and to help me practice. If you're content to live with the above, then you'll be happy with the DVDs too. However, if you want more than "here's a quick routine you can do once you've somehow stolen a red ball and a white ball and concealed them in your hand..." then this isn't for you.
Message: Posted by: RJH (Aug 16, 2013 09:21AM)
Phil, the DVDs are meant for advanced or pro manipulators. You need to know how to do the basic material (Palming, basic shell move, backpalming, productions) before going into to stuff in Artist DVDs. The routines are explained crystal clear, so I can't understand what you're not getting. If Lukas would explain all those moves in Artist Visual in 1 routine (With steals, loads, tips, misdirection, etc.) he would explain his award winning manipulation routine. Just the tips I can give you are: Learn everything that is in the ''Basic skills'' section. Then buy something like Jeff McBride's Art of card manipulation and Levent's Billiard ball DVD set and learn from those the moves and steals, after you have done that, start practising the routines in Artist Visual.

For Artist System, I think that everything that needs to be said is said. And in the ''Original'' section, the tricks/routines are not fully explained, because Lukas and his friends sell those items you need to perform those miracles.

I (12 year old kid) hope that this has given you answers to your questions and if not, I have waisted 5 valuable minutes of my practise time.

RJH
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Aug 16, 2013 10:05AM)
I have not commented on this DVD because I would have to have given it a really poor rating. I do agree with RJH that Phil does not fully understand [b]Stage Manipulation Magic[/b] and how it is performed. It is very different to Close-up magic. A lot is left to assumption on the audience's part.

Complaining that Phil could not watch the DVD on his television is really funny, as I acquaint that to someone wanting to watch a performance video and use it as entertainment. Which is not the purpose of magic explanation videos. They should be only watched in the privacy of ones area, so no one else can view the content. I like the short segments, as it helps the learning process. To try to watch this all the way through from beginning to end, we did that already with Video Tapes. It was tedious work to find one section to review.

I do agree that the video leaves a lot to be desired, and using the explanation that the items will be for sale is totally wrong. I don't want to pay to watch commercials on a DVD.

This is not a system and the contents is not of value as it is presented. To show the very old elbow load of a silk, and not explain the get ready is a total waste of video and my time. To call a "Loop Ball" a Wire Ball is totally wrong. This thing has so many old (not credited) magic tricks it is shameful to the magic society. He did not even tell that all he did was wrap some tape around this ball, you can see it if you look closely on the video.

His so called comparison of silks was meaningless as well, without text or speech, what was that all about. Was it the color or momme weight of the silks? Just what was that for?

To not explain the device for his spinning card is not fair as well. Show of black plastic box and not explain the working or show how to make it, is wrong. I can't do anything with that, so why show me, I paid for information, not a show and tell video.

His total use of the Black Art principle is unique and something that I have not considered, as it requires special lighting to pull off in a performance arena. But he should have explained his lighting arrangements or how he made sure he was in a proper position to create the effect on the audience. Lee Ang Hsuan does this same kind use of Black Art to conceal cards, and no mention of the proper clothing and lighting situation is given.

Most of the stuff on this DVD is totally useless without all the information and how props and routines or moves are taken from one phase to the next, as well as the explanation of how to make them.

I challenge anyone to try to learn this material and actually be able to duplicate any segment in a show. Just not enough explanation of the process is given.

Way overpriced for showing old methods and not giving the mechanics of each mechanical device. I puzzled over the showing of reels and not describing the purpose of each different kind and how Lukas would use them. Some of the reels are not even on the market any longer.

His use of the term "Topit" is misleading as well, as he does not use a Poacher's Bag at all. The very old impromptu method of dropping an object into the jacket is not explained as he uses it. Many questions are left for the audience to wonder about, what if the ball falls to the floor.

Finally, to promote there is a book that explains what the DVD does not is false advertising. I was expecting an actual book, that is why I finally decided to order this at this ridiculous price. Instead there is a 22 page pamphlet that explains very little.

I do not recommend this video on the explanation of Lukas' act totally worthless. If you want a few of his gimmicks, then go to his website and buy them. His floating spinning card is on sale there, I don't know if instructions are included, probably not, as it is shown in the DVD.

I would like my money back on this one. Did not learn anything completely from Lukas' perspective.