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Message: Posted by: JamesinLA (Jan 8, 2013 12:50PM)
Anyone ever use a modern cabinet to produce Santa? Thanks.

Jim
Message: Posted by: David Charvet (Jan 8, 2013 12:53PM)
Many times. Put a light (1"x 2") framework door hinged on the front covered with gift wrapping and a bow. Santa pops through the paper for his appearance. Always a great finish. (Go to a sewing shop and buy a "pounce wheel" to score/perforate the paper to make it easier to break through.)
Message: Posted by: Blair Marshall (Jan 8, 2013 02:19PM)
Jim,

Are we getting ready for next year already??

B
Message: Posted by: JamesinLA (Jan 8, 2013 05:50PM)
Thanks, guys. I just got access to a new wood shop and was thinking ahead. Yes, for next year. But my concern was that if a rolle polle guy in a big suit could make due with 9 inches?

Jim
Message: Posted by: David Nathan Magic (Jan 9, 2013 08:09AM)
Hans klok used a tip over trunk to produce santa......
Message: Posted by: jimgerrish (Jan 9, 2013 08:27AM)
Consider using a thin guy with an inflatable stomach. Many Halloween costume places still have inflatable costumes that blow up with a battery powered blower. But if Santa works for you (in other words, if you don't have to use someone chosen by someone else to play Santa) you might also consider a Gift Box appearance in the floating Box. The Box has just flown in from the North Pole (so the package claims) and is still floating around when it finally settles to the ground and Santa half floats out when it is opened and has to be pulled back down to the ground before he can go into his Santa business. You'll find one version in my PVC Book 4, a variation on the Okito/Fu-Manchu Hi-Strung Illusion.
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Jan 9, 2013 12:03PM)
Here's a link to photos of my Sleigh Illusion and my Chimney Illusion. Both were built 10+ years ago from Paul Osborne plans (Big Black Book), and have been used to magically produce Santa many times over the years.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151028801660393.779466.635075392&type=3&l=8ae7c7af30

- Donald
Message: Posted by: JamesinLA (Jan 9, 2013 01:09PM)
BTW, David, great tip on breaking out of the paper for the modern cabinet!
Thanks for the ideas, everyone. I wouldn't be in a position to pick my santa so would have to go in with the consideration of a guy in a big suit who is anything but a box jumper.
Donald, beautiful job on the Osborne illusions. How does the sleigh play? The chimney, I don't know about, but it looks like two screens that you put together during the presentation to form the chimney and then you put the top on? Is that right?

Jim
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Jan 9, 2013 01:16PM)
I built the Sleigh first, and then learned that many Santas have knee problems (because they are older). For performing, they have to kneel. So, I built the chimney next. Santa sits on a small stool inside that one, so it works better for him. I've also tried a Book of Life, because all Santa had to do was stand in that one. But I didn't really have plans for the Book of Life, so I could have done a better job on it. That prop (Book of Life) was a monster. Later on I sold it.

(I hope I'm not revealing too much.)

Of the 3 Santa Illusions I've built, the Chimney Illusion is my favorite.

No, the pieces for the chimney are not assembled in front of the audience. The whole prop is wheeled out at the right time, and you show it empty (smaller door with brick cut out). Then you revolve it and open it again, and Santa comes out of the larger door. Pictures 1 and 4 of the chimney, show it completely assembled. I just put a photo of the different pieces to show that I built it to break down to fit inside my van (3), along with the rest of my show. And the other photo (2) shows it partly assembled, before I put the top on. It assembles fairly quickly, using pin hinges.

I have my customer provide the Santa and costume. I just need a few minutes to meet with him before the show, to coach them through the trick. So, I've worked with many different Santas.

- Donald

P.S. In addition to the Big Black Book, the plans were first published in Genii Magazine. The plans for both of these illusions might also be in Paul Osborne's book, "Holiday Illusions." The Sleigh Illusion and Chimney Illusion have different names in Paul's Big Black Book. One of them is called "Here Comes Santa Claus" and the other might be called "Happy Holidays".
Message: Posted by: Oliver Ross (Jan 9, 2013 02:37PM)
Jim,

A short funny idea. If the frame is too small for Santa to pass through you could have Santa have make a first step through, than his stomach and just after this use the inflatable mechanism to have the audience see the stomach grow through the frame...

I think this could be a funny situation for the adults.

Oliver.
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Jan 9, 2013 04:21PM)
I've thought a little more about this, and perhaps Jim (and maybe others) thought the Chimney Illusion worked like a Arabian Tent Illusion. It doesn't. Although Christmas versions of the Arabian Tent Illusion exist (Fairchild Magic makes one, and Creative Magic used to make one), that illusion has too many angle problems for most of the situations I perform in. I wanted illusions that could be performed in all situations, such as halls, malls, party rooms, gyms, etc. That is why I built the illusions that I did.

- Donald
Message: Posted by: JamesinLA (Jan 10, 2013 11:41AM)
Donald,
I've got the Osborne xmas illusion book and have seen the sleigh in that one and I think you did a great job. It looks beautiful.
I was leaning toward making the two screens production or a modern cabinet. The screens have the advantage over the cabinet that it's more flexible for getting Santa in place without much of a backstage and the cabinet could be used for other shows.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Mike Maturen (Jan 10, 2013 12:55PM)
Donald,

Do you remember which issue of Genii? I'd like to go into the archives and look at it!


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P.S. In addition to the Big Black Book, the plans were first published in Genii Magazine. The plans for both of these illusions might also be in Paul Osborne's book, "Holiday Illusions." The Sleigh Illusion and Chimney Illusion have different names in Paul's Big Black Book. One of them is called "Here Comes Santa Claus" and the other might be called "Happy Holidays".
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Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Jan 10, 2013 01:05PM)
Mike - The plans I used were from the Big Black Book, but I know they were published in Genii first (one a month over several years). Sorry I don't have my Genii Magazine collection here, so I can't answer your question about the two specific issues for the Sleigh Illusion and the Chimney Illusion. Most likely December issues, as that was when they published Paul's Christmas Illusion Plans. Perhaps someone else can answer your question.

Jim - If you need any tips about performing Santa production illusions, working with Santa, when and where to get him into the prop, etc., send me a PM. I don't want to reveal too much on the open forum.

- Donald

P.S. Dal Sanders (from Texas) is the only other performer I know who has built the Sleigh Illusion. I found this out when I saw him post this video on Facebook. Although from looking at it, I can see that he built it differently than I did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukri6h8KfL0
Message: Posted by: Mike Maturen (Jan 10, 2013 01:49PM)
Found it!

November 1986, Vol. 50, #5 page 40
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Jan 10, 2013 02:32PM)
Mike -

Is it the Sleigh Illusion that you found in that issue of Genii, and was the illusion called "Here Comes Santa Claus"?

- Donald
Message: Posted by: Mike Maturen (Jan 10, 2013 02:55PM)
Nope, it was the chimney illusion.
Message: Posted by: Mike Maturen (Jan 10, 2013 04:19PM)
The illusion is called "Happy Holidays"
Message: Posted by: harbour (Mar 20, 2013 05:47PM)
Any Genii subscription has access to all issues past and present.
It's a great tool.
Message: Posted by: MagicalMotivator (Mar 20, 2013 06:22PM)
Don't forget Bryce's Screen - very portable, takes a big load - by decorating it as a background piece, putting it on a large dolly, it can work like a charm.

Also when we used to do Santa reveals for malls we would use our "thin actor' made up as Santa for the reveal and then switch this Santa for their Santa (going through the backdrop curtain on the stage) as he made his way off the stage. Malls typically have access to a few similar Santa suits so there was no added expense. In this regard we used everything from tip overs to stack of boxes to giant storybook to cat's cage - but never a modern cabinet.

Rick
Message: Posted by: magicalmoi (Feb 18, 2015 06:22AM)
Great idea
Message: Posted by: magicman42701 (Feb 20, 2015 12:17PM)
Creative magic's B Screens or even a flip switch. You could change an elf into santa or something along those lines.
Message: Posted by: MagicalMotivator (Feb 20, 2015 07:30PM)
Something to really keep in mind - who is the audience. If it is a full scale illusion show or an adult corporate gig where you have to really WOW them then there are many high end illusions as suggested here that will work.

If your audience is a mall Santa or kid like reveal than really anything magical looking will work. To the young ones who believe Santa is MAGIC - they won't worry about it being a trick, but the magic of Santa being there for them.

Hope this helps.