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Topic: 50 cent coin shell gimmicks
Message: Posted by: awe124 (Jan 18, 2013 07:02PM)
Do you know where I can get these shell coins from, how much are they?
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Jan 18, 2013 07:30PM)
They are generally available at any magic shop. You can probably get a decent one for $20-$30, I think. Its been a LONG time since I've been in the market for one, though!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jan 18, 2013 08:33PM)
Lassens commercial site offers a kennedy
shell set for 55 bucks.you can't beat the
price for this quality set.
Message: Posted by: Ekuth (Jan 19, 2013 04:14PM)
Pick up any version of Lethal Tender.

Not only do you get a great pocket effect, but you get a magnetic Half Dollar expanded shell in the bargain.

Madhattermagicshop.com sells them for about $15.
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Jan 19, 2013 04:16PM)
The Sterling version of Lethal Tender is not made with a shell.
Message: Posted by: Ekuth (Jan 19, 2013 04:28PM)
Ah, I did not know that. Mine does.

Listen to Chessmann then!
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Jan 19, 2013 05:25PM)
The Sterling version is the only version of Lethal Tender authorized by the inventor (Steve Dusheck).

I second Bowers' reccomendation for the Lassen entry level shell. You can get a cheaper shell (Johnson's shell is serviceable) but because the tolerances are so tight with the Lassen, there is no rattle. It's just a pleasure to use. I still can't believe how much I like my Lassen commercial CSB.

One reccomendation: think about getting a few extra coins from Lassen while you're at it so they all fit the shell perfectly.

Message: Posted by: bowers (Jan 19, 2013 07:02PM)
Yea alan for the money you can't beat this set of coins.
great coverage and no rattle what so ever.
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Jan 19, 2013 08:47PM)
Ekuth sounds like he's got something there, though, with the other versions - a shell with a steel shim inside gives you some flexibility!
Message: Posted by: Ekuth (Jan 20, 2013 01:41AM)
Well, I must have a knockoff version then... I didn't realize there was a difference. King Magic I think? Regardless.

It is nice; the shell I got with the effect isn't as nice as my Krupper's half shell by a long shot, but it's good to have a spare.

You can pull off some really nice transpos, ect with the shimmed shells.

I use a PK gimmick I made from a PDF I bought from a gentleman somewhere here on the Café... I'm away from where my stuff is right now or I'd look it up. Clever way to make any ring a PK ring.
Very easy to get into and to ditch.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Jan 20, 2013 08:51AM)
Nothing wrong with DIY. If you listen to Dusheck's DVD he is a big fan of DIY - he just didn't like it when people made money on his inventions without getting his permission. BTW you can make any ] attractable to a PK ring by adding a bit of shim material (that you can purchase from Chazpro) to the sticky side of a Teflon disk that you affix to the inside of your shell. You can also purchase very thin pre-made shim Teflon disks from Lassen's commercial site.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jan 20, 2013 10:57PM)
"Shell? Lethal Tender? There's no shell in Lethal Tender!!" (Think of that in Tom Hanks' voice from "A League of Their Own"!) ;)

For some excellent information with regard to Lethal Tender, here's a post by Steve Dusheck:

*You can do the Dobson effect with Lethal Tender but you can't do my Lethal Tender routine with the Mason gimmick. I made a special gimmick for LT. It does not have a rim. My gimmick allows you to show the set as a Chinese coin and there is no tell tale rim showing around the Chinese coin. My rimless gimmick also eliminated noise, and left everything examinable including the card case. The reset is almost instant.

*A lot of coin machinists make LT. None of them pay me a royalty. Even the reputable Royal Magic copied it without my permission. A lot of the machinists, such as Tango Magic, make it with a sh**l coin instead of the post type gimmick I designed. But they don't include my routines. If your LT came with a sh**l you were cheated.

*I gave the trick to Sterling Magic Creations to manufacture. They didn't want it because they said they were already making a Chinatown Half trick. I had to explain that the instant visual change made LT a very different effect. They had me write instructions for a trick that would not compete with their Chinatown Half and did not use my original instructions.

*The brand names of playing cards are only important to magicians. Most ordinary people see all playing cards as just what they are, playing cards. I used Kling steel cards because they worked very well and kept the retail price of the LT low. They also held up better than shimmed name brand playing cards. No one has ever suspected them as not being ordinary cards.

*The nice thing about the Kling cards is you can glue a picture of your children or grand children on the face of the card or glue an ID card to it or your business card and have an even better, more personal, gimmick.

*Some magicians even complain about the "cheap" vinyl case that comes with LT. They are quite ordinary and above suspicion. They also keep the retail price low. If you don't like the vinyl case you can easily buy a leather one. I found great looking leather ID cases, with brass corners, at the local dollar store.

*As someone already mentioned the Dobson variation is really a "one on one" trick. That person will be fooled. Other people watching the trick will probably see what you did. The person you did the trick for will not be fooled if you have to repeat the trick. And while the coins are examinable just as the LT coins are, the Mason card case is not examinable.

*When I performed for Caesar's Pocono resorts I opened with LT. I was almost always asked to "Do that again.' Instantly repeating the trick fooled the audience even more the second time. I did the trick at least 80 times a weekend for almost two years using the same Kling card.

*I have reached the stage in my life when I am only interested in performing close-up magic effects that a lot of people can see at the same time. There were 8 people at each table at the resorts so many of my favorite tricks could not be seen and had to be replaced. I only perform tricks that can be repeated immediately for the same audience. In the real world people ask you to repeat tricks. And when doing strolling magic many people follow you around and do see you repeating the same trick. If they figure out what you are doing they will shout it to your audience before the trick is over.

*I receive no money for creating Lethal Tender so it really doesn't matter to me which trick you buy. But the Mason/Dobson trick is not superior to Lethal Tender in any way no matter what the dealers, trying to sell it, claim. Mark Mason offered to put a sticker on his trick stating it was inspired by Steve Dusheck. I turned down the offer. If he would have asked me before he put the trick out I would have gladly given him permission. Perhaps he wanted magicians to think it was something really new so he would sell more of them.

Best wishes,


His post is in this thread, page 3, second post down.