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Topic: Small palm readers wand?
Message: Posted by: Michael_MacDonald (Feb 9, 2013 01:08AM)
I am looking for a small pointed wand that I can use for palm reading to point out the lines as I read them. anyone have something like this?
Message: Posted by: Godzilla (Feb 9, 2013 01:37AM)
Yep! In my 'Wand Post'!
The one that asked,Do you use a wand?
It is about 5&1/2 inches.
Made from a cat bone,and has a Quartz tip!
Made by "thetwistedwitches" during a ritual...
They are made by Wife & Husband!(Missy & Dan)

She,is a Witch/Vampire,and He is a Werewolf !
"That's,what she said!"

I was trying to find her email,but could not!

They list on the big auction site,search there for 'thetwistedwitches'

Send me a PM,BRO! With a email addy,and I will send you a pic!
Message: Posted by: Godzilla (Feb 9, 2013 02:55AM)
Or,you could use a nice little laser pointer!
Add,a color of your choice...
Message: Posted by: The Curator (Feb 9, 2013 03:22AM)
Why not a Yad!

[img]http://www.larkcrafts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Yad-1-BMA.jpg[/img]
Message: Posted by: Van Helmont (Feb 9, 2013 05:22AM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-09 04:22, The Curator wrote:
Why not a Yad!

[img]http://www.larkcrafts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Yad-1-BMA.jpg[/img]
[/quote]

Yeah, but this one only points to the left! I need mine to be more versatile than that.
Message: Posted by: Bedford (Feb 9, 2013 08:30AM)
Outlaw used to sell a Tarot Pointer. I don't see them on their site any more, but a Google search gets you here:

http://www.outlaw-effects.com/store/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=65&Itemid=118

Not sure if Rick can still get these? There is a link to Rare Earth Designs at the bottom of Outlaw's page, but their site doesn't look like it's been updated since 2009. The "shop" link on their site takes you to a current eBay store, but there aren't any wands there.

I would be interested in one if they are still available.
Message: Posted by: Christopher Gould (Feb 9, 2013 09:11AM)
Use a stick.
Message: Posted by: Bedford (Feb 9, 2013 10:00AM)
Or how about a chopstick? They make some very ornate ones. Just don't use one from your neighborhood Chinese restaurant!
Message: Posted by: KOTAH (Feb 9, 2013 10:59AM)
Bedfords odea is good. I purchaced stainless steel sushi chop sticks on the big aucyion site, use it to penetrate my opium coins and also as a wand.

Kotah
Message: Posted by: Michael_MacDonald (Feb 9, 2013 11:10AM)
Some great ideas! I saw a hand made palm wand some time ago but can not seem to find it again. it really had a unique look and would have added nicely to the table dressing when doing readings. I am looking to dress up my table and add some mystique to the settings
Message: Posted by: Godzilla (Feb 9, 2013 11:54AM)
For the Palm, I think I like the laser the best.
You would not be using a object,that would be in contact with several different hands. Some people do not even like to use a pen,that has been touched by others at Banks,etc... JMO

But,you could also wipe it down,each time before using on spec!
Message: Posted by: Bedford (Feb 9, 2013 12:08PM)
I just dug this chopstick out, it's plain but kind of unique looking. I'm going to try it out at my show tonight - doing readings for a corporate party.

[img]http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q597/bedford11/b2287c1a-5d59-4672-89a9-8a750e9817c9.jpg[/img]
Message: Posted by: afinemesh (Feb 9, 2013 12:17PM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-09 13:08, Bedford wrote:
I just dug this chopstick out, it's plain but kind of unique looking. I'm going to try it out at my show tonight - doing readings for a corporate party.

[img]http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q597/bedford11/b2287c1a-5d59-4672-89a9-8a750e9817c9.jpg[/img]
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I like the curator's yad (for elegance), but for impromptu this looks perfect!
Message: Posted by: Godzilla (Feb 9, 2013 12:24PM)
It does look pretty cool for Tarot & Charts!
Are you going to use it for palm readings to?
Message: Posted by: afinemesh (Feb 9, 2013 12:29PM)
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On 2013-02-09 13:24, Godzilla wrote:
It does look pretty cool for Tarot & Charts!
Are you going to use it for palm readings to?
[/quote]

If yer talkin to me, I'm not gonna use it at all. I just like the look! ;)
Message: Posted by: Godzilla (Feb 9, 2013 12:33PM)
Jorey,it was a question to Bedford. :)
But,thanks for sharing!
Message: Posted by: Bedford (Feb 9, 2013 12:42PM)
Not for palms, no. Just for cards (tarot, and the AA as shown).
Message: Posted by: Godzilla (Feb 9, 2013 12:49PM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-09 13:42, Bedford wrote:
Not for palms, no. Just for cards (tarot, and the AA as shown).
[/quote]

Just was curious!
Thanks for reply!
Message: Posted by: RicHeka (Feb 9, 2013 02:39PM)
We had a huge blizzard lastnite here in the Northeast US. I got trapped inside my cave.....so I had some free time to make this Pointer.
It is composed of: A length of 'antique' bamboo; A rock quartz Neolithic arrowhead [6000-8000 years old]; A wood skull.
Total length: 8 inches [20cm].

http://tinyurl.com/a7pwbj3

Rich
Message: Posted by: RCP (Feb 9, 2013 04:30PM)
I like this one

http://www.worldofjudaica.com/judaica/torah-pointers/p_sterling_silver_torah_pointer_with_linear_and_scrolling_motifs#p=26319

Nice idea from the Curator, thanks for the tip
Message: Posted by: David_Libertine (Feb 9, 2013 05:09PM)
I cannot recommend this place highly enough : http://www.whirlwood.com/

I've had two wands done there and they are beautiful. Each is hand made and custom work is available.
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Feb 9, 2013 09:48PM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-09 18:09, David_Libertine wrote:
I cannot recommend this place highly enough : http://www.whirlwood.com/

I've had two wands done there and they are beautiful. Each is hand made and custom work is available.
[/quote]They look awesome.
Message: Posted by: Michael_MacDonald (Feb 9, 2013 11:10PM)
I found a couple items I will use for tarot and for palm tracing that will fit in well with the character type I present readings with.

but this topic has grown very fascinating! I really like the care everyone takes with their non gimmicked prop selections. that is what will make these presentations very magical indeed.

how many of you use wands in your other presentations?

now I need to find some items to dress the table just for aesthetics.
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Feb 10, 2013 12:36AM)
I spent a lot of time yesterday looking at yads. These are really neat. They vary in price from about 12 pounds to 120 pounds, depending on age and materials....

There are also adult and children's varieties...

Very interesting...
Message: Posted by: Michael_MacDonald (Feb 10, 2013 03:22AM)
Yes me to lol I had never seen one before until last night. they are kind of cool!
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Feb 10, 2013 06:09AM)
I think I'm losing it guys....
I've been looking at this thread for two days, and only just realised it wasn't called "Small palm readers wanted"

I need to lie down I think


Steve
Message: Posted by: necroloid (Feb 10, 2013 07:30AM)
Crispin Mindbender has some nice ones.
http://www.crispinswands.com/WandVault.html
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Feb 10, 2013 08:20AM)
Use a small magnifying glass with handle - you can then use both ends - rod or circle - and also theatrically examine some areas of the hand in more detail
Message: Posted by: YitzhakNoDice (Feb 10, 2013 10:06AM)
Using a yod (literally meaning 'hand') that has actually been used to read a Torah, don't be surprised if Hebrew letters appear on the palm you are reading. Sometimes a letter will appear on the back of the hand.
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Feb 10, 2013 10:36AM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-09 15:39, RicHeka wrote:
We had a huge blizzard lastnite here in the Northeast US. I got trapped inside my cave.....so I had some free time to make this Pointer.
It is composed of: A length of 'antique' bamboo; A rock quartz Neolithic arrowhead [6000-8000 years old]; A wood skull.
Total length: 8 inches [20cm].

http://tinyurl.com/a7pwbj3

Rich
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I love this Rich.
Message: Posted by: Mystician (Feb 10, 2013 11:34AM)
Simple answer:

Alivans

http://www.alivans.com/custom/cart/edit.asp?p=97608

This particular wand is bloodwood, but they also make other small 7" wands in ebony (I have this one, it's gorgeous), becote, and purpleheart. Different wood types are also lathed (is that a word?) differently, so there's a good selection and variety of not just color/wood but shape.

They even make several tiny wands that are keychain sized, about 3" long. I got a few of these too.

BTW, these aren't just stained pine or maple, these are the real hardwoods, and the craftsmanship is very good, while the prices are surprisingly low. I am in no way affiliated with Alivans, I just think they make the best wands, hands down. I stumbled across them back in my Harry Potter days.
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Feb 10, 2013 12:46PM)
I cannot believe how many wand makers have popped up...and so many good ones. Are these all spawned by Harry Potter, or have they always existed and the internet is making them more well-known?
Message: Posted by: RicHeka (Feb 11, 2013 01:20AM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-10 11:36, Wizard of Oz wrote:
[quote]
On 2013-02-09 15:39, RicHeka wrote:
We had a huge blizzard lastnite here in the Northeast US. I got trapped inside my cave.....so I had some free time to make this Pointer.
It is composed of: A length of 'antique' bamboo; A rock quartz Neolithic arrowhead [6000-8000 years old]; A wood skull.
Total length: 8 inches [20cm].

http://tinyurl.com/a7pwbj3

Rich
[/quote]

I love this Rich.
[/quote]

Thank-you my friend! My initial blizzard enhanced goal was to create a wand/pointer...that is: unique; partially ancient; interesting; and with the opportunity for the performer/reader
to discuss the 'interesting' background of the piece...with the guest[s].....if asked.
It may not be as pretty as some of the other WONDERFUL offerings mentioned. However. it has a bit of unique character.....sort of like...in the dog world...a cute mutt. :)
Message: Posted by: Necromancer (Feb 11, 2013 11:55AM)
With all respect to Christian Chelman, I have an issue with using a yad as a pointer for tarot reading. It's the same reason I wouldn't use the base of a crucifix for that function: it's recognizable as an object specifically designed for religious observance. Regardless of your personal comfort level in using such an object within this context, you run the risk of offending the sensitivities of your sitter.

If you have any desire to be a palmist in a professional setting, I'd recommend using a pointer that doesn't carry such emotional baggage.

Best,
Neil
Message: Posted by: Godzilla (Feb 11, 2013 12:12PM)
I 'STRONGLY' agree with Neil's, post!
Message: Posted by: YitzhakNoDice (Feb 11, 2013 01:10PM)
I see Neil's point and generally it a very good practice. Bravo!

I, having being raised in an orthodox household, would personally not be offended by the use of a yod in this context. I might think it a bit odd, however (see the next paragraph). A yod is used as a pointer and has no religious connotations; its function is to prevent damage to a scroll, particularly the ink. Some will suggest that the yod prevents a potentially impure person from touching a Torah scroll (I will keep my lengthy opinion to myself regarding this). As there are no references to a yod in Talmud that I'm aware of, I personally could not associate a yod with any religious or ritual significance. Hence, no offence.

What is more potentially objectionable is the use of a yod (or any uniquely Jewish object) in divination as divination is highly frowned upon. Frowned upon? Yet, we see references to divination in Torah. (That would be a fun discussion thread!) Therefore I (echoing more authoritative sources), conclude divination is not forbidden, but is considered a distraction. Indeed, as those of here in Spooky use it as an entertaining 'distraction'.

Not being a student of Islam or Christianity, I can only venture to guess that the loathing of divination might be a more universal 'official position'. So, perhaps we Spookyniks, to coin a term, should be clear that when we do divination (yod or not), it is 'for entertainment purposes only'?

Oy, in true form I've exposed more questions than answers. Apparently, I'm not a wise person.
Message: Posted by: PROF BC (Feb 11, 2013 02:03PM)
Expressing no opinion regarding their use for divination purposes (pro or con), aren't these stunningly beautiful?

http://www.judaism.com/tree-of-life-yad/dp/BACGC/

BC
Message: Posted by: Michael_MacDonald (Feb 11, 2013 03:03PM)
Those are gorgeous prof bc....
Message: Posted by: The Curator (Feb 11, 2013 03:49PM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-11 12:55, Necromancer wrote:
With all respect to Christian Chelman, I have an issue with using a yad as a pointer for tarot reading. It's the same reason I wouldn't use the base of a crucifix for that function: it's recognizable as an object specifically designed for religious observance. Regardless of your personal comfort level in using such an object within this context, you run the risk of offending the sensitivities of your sitter.

If you have any desire to be a palmist in a professional setting, I'd recommend using a pointer that doesn't carry such emotional baggage.

Best,
Neil
[/quote]

On the other side, there are yads that doesn't look like the traditional yad. Plus, a good story can justify any object.
Message: Posted by: Necromancer (Feb 12, 2013 11:33AM)
My own solution for palmistry tools is to use a matched magnifying-glass-and-letter-opener set.

With a wide range of handles in mineral, horn, bone, wood, or other materials to choose from, they can look quite beautiful while exuding a sense of antiquity and scholarly professionalism. And since they come in so many different styles, there's bound to be a style to suit every reader.

Best,
Neil
Message: Posted by: Necromancer (Feb 12, 2013 02:39PM)
If I wasn't clear above: the magnifier helps you better see the lines of the sitter's hand, while the letter opener is perfectly suited to point out details. It's as if they were made for palmistry.

A few examples (think what each of these sets could say to a client about you):
http://shepardspoints.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=12
http://www.pasttimes.com/gift_finder/by_recipient/gifts_for_him/gentlemans_magnifier_letter_opener_set-803030.htm
http://www.paradisepen.com/Paradise-Pen-Brass-Magnifier-and-Letter-Opener-Set/PAAAIADOFDKENPJN/product
http://www.premierhomedecor.net/servlet/the-Letter-Openers-%26-Bookmarks/Categories
Message: Posted by: Michael_MacDonald (Feb 12, 2013 03:02PM)
I'm picking up a set thanks for the tip
Message: Posted by: dmkraig (Feb 12, 2013 03:03PM)
Okay, I can't resist any more.

When your subject line said, " Small palm readers wand,"I thought you meant a magic wand used by a midget medium.
Message: Posted by: Jon Mac (Feb 12, 2013 03:14PM)
When I first read it, I thought the subject was "Small palm readers wanted."

Heh, anyway I really like those magnifier/opener sets.
Message: Posted by: Necromancer (Feb 12, 2013 03:34PM)
Another tip: you'll often find some distinctive sets on Etsy and eBay.
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Feb 12, 2013 07:33PM)
Sheesh I said that on page one - no one pays attention to me - I guess I better get a 9 year running show !!! :)

Actually a yad with a magnifying glass as th end - now there is a hybrid
Message: Posted by: Michael_MacDonald (Feb 12, 2013 07:43PM)
I listened doc lol its fun watching all the other cool items run through here thow
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Feb 12, 2013 07:54PM)
http://shopvirtu.net/ProductDetail.asp?ProductCategoryID=8&ProductsID=881
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Feb 12, 2013 08:04PM)
http://www.etsy.com/listing/81862079/tiny-magnifying-glass-with-victorian?ref=sr_gallery_5&ga_search_query=magnifying+glass+necklace+hand&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_ship_to=US&ga_ref=auto1&ga_search_type=all&ga_facet=magnifying+glass+necklace+hand

http://www.etsy.com/listing/77187267/magnifying-glass-victorian-hand-very?ref=sr_gallery_6&ga_search_query=magnifying+glass+necklace+hand&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_ship_to=US&ga_ref=auto1&ga_search_type=all&ga_facet=magnifying+glass+necklace+hand


Buy it if ya like :)
Message: Posted by: Necromancer (Feb 12, 2013 09:27PM)
Dr. Spector, I only saw you recommend a magnifying glass with a handle that can be used as a pointer. But by using a magnifying glass and a separate letter opener, a reader can point and examine lines closely at the same time. Works for me, anyway.

Best,
Neil

P.S. Yes, you should get a 9-year-running show. Get crackin'.
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Feb 12, 2013 09:45PM)
Ah, indeed - you got a whole kit :). - roll it out in a leather wrap - you could have some old nail clippers too - take a clipping, and knead it into some wax.... Make an effigy... Oops wrong effect! :)

9 years - I need the hermione time travel device!!!!
Message: Posted by: Mystician (Feb 15, 2013 06:21PM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-11 14:10, YitzhakNoDice wrote:

What is more potentially objectionable is the use of a yod (or any uniquely Jewish object) in divination as divination is highly frowned upon.
[/quote]

That may be, but it's kinda funny considering yods are all over the Waite/Coleman tarot deck illustrations.
Message: Posted by: Sicnatius (Feb 15, 2013 11:02PM)
Could someone please explain, why you would consider the use of a wand in a palm reading?

In my experience a lot of the impact of a palm reading is achieved by the odd situation for the client to have his hand held and someone pointing out those lines with "body-contact". In my view that helps a lit to achieve an emotional impact with that reading, making the whole thing more intimate.
Message: Posted by: Michael_MacDonald (Feb 15, 2013 11:59PM)
For me the use of the wand lets me show the fine detail of the hand and the lines . I have rather thick hands and would not be able to show the fine details as clean . I also perform some routines where I use the lines in the hand to show then the items they touched or thought of.