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Topic: Fakini Billiard Ball Help
Message: Posted by: Rich B. (Nov 19, 2003 07:45AM)
I own a set of Magenta Fakini Billiard balls which I purchased from Denny & Lee about 3 1/2 years ago. I remember at the time the tackines or the feel of these silcone balls was great, and allowed you to palm the balls effortlessly.

Until I purchased a new set of white this past April, I didn't realize that the finish on my Magenta set is very dull and has a mat look. They also are more difficult to manipulate. Of course I didn't notice this until I received my new white set which is very shiny and practically stick to my hands by themselves.

I have cleaned my Magenta set with mild dish detergent regularly. My question is what happened to this set of Fakini balls? Is there anything I can do to get the tackiness back...or are they supposed to be replaced every few years.

Thanks,
Rich B.
Message: Posted by: xxxRoyxxx (Nov 19, 2003 07:52AM)
No, the same thing with my sets. I bought a smaller 1 3/4 set only t find out I wanted a bigger 2in. set later. When they are newer they seem to have that almost sticky feeling and shiny look; this feel and look go away from use. Try fanning powder if the stickiness is an issue for you.
Message: Posted by: boltt223 (Nov 19, 2003 09:49PM)
Rich, it could be that you were washing them instead of just rinsing them off with cold water. Try running them under cold water for a bit while rubbing off any dirt or anythng else off the surface. I have had my Fakini's for a few years now and they feel as tacky as they did the day I got them. :smiles:
Message: Posted by: Steven Steele (Nov 23, 2003 12:44AM)
I have white and magenta 2" Fakini Billiard Balls. It happened to all of them. I called Denny and Fakini both and talked to them. The dulling is a symptom of the silicon used in the balls themselves. Nothing can be done to renew the initial finish. My only concern is now my shells are still shiny...need to work with them more to dull them out. They just don't get handled like the normal balls, so they don't dull at the same rate.

Sorry to tell you this, but I went down this road about a year and a half ago.

Steven
Message: Posted by: FCpreacher (Nov 24, 2003 08:08PM)
It happens. :rolleyes:
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Nov 26, 2003 05:31PM)
Now this is discouraging.

Hundred dollar set just deteriorates? I guess this is entropy at work! Ozone probably. Other silicone products (let's not go there) have been known to do the same thing. The idea is to seal it somehow...in fact, my question would be, why do the shells not deteriorate? Different material?

I'm not so sure I'm going to save up my money for that set, now that I've seen these posts. I sure do appreciate it, guys! Ya saved me some duckies!

Doug
Message: Posted by: xxxRoyxxx (Nov 26, 2003 06:13PM)
Don't let something like that keep you from the fakini's they are great! Also, I wonder what type of effect nail polish would have on it, as far as keeping it shiny. Then again, that takes away the whole purpose of having silicone balls....Anyone out there brave enough to expirement with some type of finish on their fakini's??? I really don't think it's a big deal that they loose that shiny finish it has at first. They are still visible to your audience... Just my two cents....
Message: Posted by: The Cardfather (Nov 27, 2003 10:56AM)
Don't have them but want them. Never tried this but find a car wax or polish with a silicone base. May restore the tackiness and the shine with the same product.
Message: Posted by: -The Scot- (Nov 27, 2003 03:58PM)
Interesting theory cardfather, has anyone tried this?
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Nov 28, 2003 10:47AM)
It is funny because I have a set of white Fakinis and have had them for years. They are still as tacky as the day I got them. Of course I place them back inside the tube after every performance and try to keep them dusted off. I have never had a problem with them.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Dec 4, 2003 01:30PM)
Rich,

Why not ask Fakini, he guarantees his ball for life. My Golf ball shell cracked once and he replaced it for free.
Contact info: House of Fakini, 1028 Orchard St., Toledo, OH 43609, Phone: 419-255-8658, Fax: 255-9200

You know he now has a new dropper for his balls, costs $95, it is a special hard tube with release that allows the ball to drop into your hand.

He is at Abbott's Magic Get-together every year.

Bill :applause:
Message: Posted by: Fitz (Dec 5, 2003 01:18AM)
I have also heard Cold water works well. Jeff McBride I think, said this. I know if you do a quick wash with cold water before a show it will help. No harm in trying.

Fitz
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Dec 5, 2003 07:05AM)
I keep the balls clean and store them in the container they came in. I have never had any problem with them at all.
Message: Posted by: Rich B. (Dec 5, 2003 08:04AM)
Hey Bill, Thanks for the Fakini contact. Maybe I'll give that a try.

And Kyle we unofficially met a couple of times at the SAM 4 meeting and possibly some conventions. You may also have seen me perform close up at the IBM Ring 6 show in Phoenixville(saw you in the audeience for second show). Anyway, I keep my Fakini's in the conatainer they came in also. I contacted Denny & Lee and Denny said that this is pretty common and it happens to these balls. I'm actually using a hi-bounce ball for a color change in place of my Fakini magenta set. These hi-bounce balls cost about $3.75 for a dozen assorted colors and stick to my hand like glue.

I'm primarily a close-up/children's entertainer, but this coming Monday is our IBM Ring 6 Holiday show and also our stage competition. I am performing/competing with a billiard ball act and another routine. I'm kinda a little nervous about this one...we'll see how it goes.

Thanks to everyone for their responses.

Rich B.
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Dec 5, 2003 08:14AM)
Hey Rich:

I remember now. I was there for the second show with my wife Kelly. We were sitting with the Grassos if you know Mike. Nice show.

I also do the same thing as you and keep my billard balls in the case. It helps protect them and keeps dust from collecting on the silicone.

I also use super bouncy balls in a 1 3/4 inch sizes. They feel real good and is a great way to do color change effects at a fraction of the cost.

I wish I could get to see your stage contest act. I am working on an act myself and will perform at the SAM 4 stage contest. Maybe if it is good weather, I can shoot over there Monday night.
Message: Posted by: carbone1853 (Feb 15, 2004 08:08AM)
The balls are only shiny before they are broken in. After they are broken in they develop a pitina that will last... well it will probably out last the owner. Is does not have anything to do with reacting to the atmosphere. Silicone is very inert. The balls will last a long time unless they are beat up on rough surfaces.
Jugglers use Silicone ball and I donít know any that has worn out there balls, except by bouncing on rough surfaces.

To get the tackiness back, wash the ball in a mild soap and water.
Message: Posted by: santlerconjurer (Feb 28, 2004 06:09PM)
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On 2003-11-27 11:56, The Cardfather wrote:
Don't have them but want them. Never tried this but find a car wax or polish with a silicone base. May restore the tackiness and the shine with the same product.
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Danger! Danger! Silicone base polish = slippery = non-tacky = balls all over the place flying and bouncing everywhere!
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Feb 28, 2004 07:23PM)
I have never had to use anything except maybe a bit of soap and water to clean them with. They last a lifetime if taken care of properly.

Kyle
Message: Posted by: WoodRat (Feb 29, 2004 01:48AM)
"I have never had to use anything except maybe a bit of soap and water to clean them with. They last a lifetime if taken care of properly."

That's reassuring...

Is there any noticable difference between the shell and balls after the "break-in" period? Shine vs dull, tackiness vs. slip, etc...

I ask because I currently use the old wooden balls and I manage the tackiness of my fingers and palms instead of the balls which are quite slick...
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Feb 29, 2004 12:57PM)
There is no difference between the feel, or look, of the shell and the balls themselves and I have had my set for years. The shell and the balls are coated with the exact same silicone so they react the same way.

Kyle