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Topic: Tenyo : Latest NEWS !
Message: Posted by: stereo (Mar 3, 2013 10:00AM)
On this Topic are the latest information about Tenyo.

For all collectors :

Mystic Scope will be discontinued soon.

And here the tricks allready Discontinued in Japan :

Animation Frame discontinued
Magical Door Discontinued
Ghost Puzzle Discontinued
Confined Cube Discontinued
Synchoro Box Discontinued
Mystery Triangle Discontinued
Magician’s Matchbox Discontinued
Fade away Case Discontinued
Prison Box Discontinued
Chinese Sticks Discontinued
Antigravity Rock Discontinued
Credit Surprise Discontinued
Fortune Stick Discontinued
Origami Tube Discontinued
Salt Cup Discontinued

For those who read Japanese ( you can translate the page too ):
2 greats Topic about Tenyo on JpMagic Blog Hey Presto! :

About Tenyo Magic World set :
http://jpmagic.blog34.fc2.com/blog-entry-1344.html

About Coin Box tricks, including some from Tenyo:
http://jpmagic.blog34.fc2.com/blog-entry-1339.html
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Mar 3, 2013 10:13AM)
Thank you Stereo - VERY usefull!! :thumbsup:

I will buy a spare Mystic Scope, Animation Frame, Credit Surprise, Origami Tube and Salt Cups soon (I already have a spare of the other ones I bought from Hitomi last year). They are all good tricks.
I encourage everyone to buy a spare Prison Box if they can, it will be the new 'Mini Morphosis' in a few years I think :)
Confined Cubes is also a great litle mechanical illusion.
Message: Posted by: mirror mate (Mar 3, 2013 11:04AM)
Stereo illusion Truck has also been discontinued!
Message: Posted by: stereo (Mar 3, 2013 12:22PM)
Thank you Mirror Mate.

This Topic is not "my" topic, it's for all us, so if one of you have some informations like for example the fact Illusion truck is also dicontinued, you can directly share it on this post.

I have to buy some spare too at Magico Japan Shop before price rise.
Message: Posted by: peterger (Mar 3, 2013 01:29PM)
Thank you Stereo for this helpfull tip!
Message: Posted by: stereo (Mar 3, 2013 05:25PM)
Speaking about Mystic Scope, I wonder if the special filter used ( wich is the same used at the time for Hyper Vision) is the same as the one used for Fantastica.
The same filter but used a completely different way. What do you think of that ?
Message: Posted by: WalterPlinge (Mar 3, 2013 06:11PM)
I hope this isn't a silly question, but how does Tenyo decide what to discontinue? Is it purely based on sales and profit margins?
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Mar 4, 2013 12:00AM)
It's a simple polarized filter on all those tricks. Nothing unusual.
Message: Posted by: jcs013 (Mar 4, 2013 03:21PM)
Thanks for the information.
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Mar 4, 2013 07:33PM)
The info is available on their official website
http://www.tenyo.co.jp/magic_en/alllist/index.html
Message: Posted by: stereo (Mar 5, 2013 07:18AM)
I have my informations directly from Japan thanks to Hitomi.

The English version on the website is not updated :
Look at this one and click on "History"
http://www.tenyo.co.jp/magic/library/index.html

All tricks with red star are discontinued.

Tenyo Special 2013 : Magic Sushi



A new mentalism trick created by Toru Suzuki
You can perform 3 differents tricks with this Tenyo Special.

Traduction not really clear so maybe description is not good.

1-"Mentalism Sushi" : Spectator hide one sushi in his hand, and magician can guess.
2-"Wich is your favorite ?" : Brand new principle. Spectator Choose two from six kinds of sushi. Magician immediately know which ones was selected.
3- "Great Promise of Sushi" : Sushi are arranged in a circle, spectator freely choose the starting point and count according a number and once arrived, the sushi card is returned. Is repeated until there was only one sushi card face up. Magcian can predict in advance the remaining sushi.

http://www.tenyo.co.jp/magic/spmagic.html
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Mar 6, 2013 09:29PM)
If this is the real new special maybe Tenyo should forget about magic and just open a new uncooked fast food franchise. You drive through they toss the food out the window you catch it in a fish net. ;)

The last food effect was the worst trick ever so continue with the food theme that is lame.
Message: Posted by: xl18 (Mar 6, 2013 10:08PM)
Suzuki definately has food on the brain lately being that the last two specials he created were Magical Café and Magical Burger.
I'd look for a pizza topping trick in 2014.

But in the meantime, maybe you can put together a whole Tenyo food themed routine. You could start with these 3, then maybe throw in Salt Cups and then China Surprise for the grand finale! (or maybe just leave that one out.)
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Mar 7, 2013 12:39AM)
Being they are in Japan isn't it odd they would make a trick called China Surprise.
I think it should have been called Japanese Rude Awakening cause it sucks big time! :hrmph:
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Mar 8, 2013 02:59PM)
Can't wait to get mine! :)
Message: Posted by: stereo (Mar 8, 2013 05:29PM)
Me too !!!
I really like these kind of cute item with diabolical mathematic idea.
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Mar 9, 2013 11:17AM)
Great idea, I will place my order soon :)
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Mar 9, 2013 12:03PM)
Sound kinda fishy.....:)
Message: Posted by: Adams The Magician (Mar 9, 2013 03:59PM)
Another interesting idea/trick from Tenyo!
Message: Posted by: WalterPlinge (Mar 10, 2013 07:26PM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-03 19:11, WalterPlinge wrote:
I hope this isn't a silly question, but how does Tenyo decide what to discontinue? Is it purely based on sales and profit margins?
[/quote]
Maybe it was a silly question.
:)
Message: Posted by: stereo (Mar 11, 2013 08:27AM)
In fact we don't know why ! But Yes I think it's based on sales and profit margins like for all society.
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Mar 11, 2013 08:35AM)
When I met Hiroshi Kondo in New York city for the signing of the Tenyo Elite contract, he put on a private Tenyo show for myself, Steve and Jason, it was awesome and an experience of a life time! Part of what he showed us that night were items that not only were discontinued but items that never even got released (the lost Tenyo tricks if you will), and these tricks were freaking awesome! I never asked, but I am still very curious why some of these killer effects don't ever get released. And why others get discontinued also. I'm not sure it always has to do with P&L.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Mar 11, 2013 06:04PM)
This excites the curiosity ... An example ?
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Mar 11, 2013 07:59PM)
You'll see them in my book.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Mar 11, 2013 08:34PM)
Very cool, I think we should start planning some kind of Tenyo event to launch the book. Would be so neat to get a number of the creators together for a talk and book signing. Probably not practical but would be a memorable event for sure.... "Tenyo Live 2014"
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Mar 13, 2013 03:58PM)
In fact, you will see a lot more prototypes of unproduced Tenyo items in my book than Peter saw in New York because Hiroshi Kondo could only carry a limited number of items with him.

And I've had some success (I think) with finding at least one flat unproduced Tenyo trick to put under the front cover.

Onward and upward!

And I discovered why there are no tricks listed from 1984 in the T series.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Mar 13, 2013 04:06PM)
Keeps getting better Richard!
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Mar 13, 2013 09:06PM)
I got goosebumps from that post Richard.
(Sad, I know).
Message: Posted by: stereo (Mar 14, 2013 08:46AM)
Lot of good news !
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Mar 14, 2013 11:59AM)
A flat unproduced Tenyo trick to put under the front cover sounds very cool hope that happens.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Mar 17, 2013 05:32PM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-13 16:58, Richard Kaufman wrote:

And I discovered why there are no tricks listed from 1984 in the T series.
[/quote]

Simply because They moved their offices Maybe !
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Mar 17, 2013 06:06PM)
Ran out of plastic?
Message: Posted by: stereo (Mar 25, 2013 09:07AM)
Some more photo of Tenyo special 2013 magical Sushi :
http://jpmagic.blog34.fc2.com/blog-entry-1353.html

I receive mine tomorrow, so I'd do an article soon on the blog.
Sushi token looks very large this time.
Message: Posted by: merlin2812 (Mar 25, 2013 09:15AM)
Great to see they used both english and japonese on the tokens!
Don't know if it is very logical since the "specials" are mainly for the japonese people, but great for all of us non japonese speakers!
Message: Posted by: stereo (Apr 1, 2013 03:28PM)
Look at this georgous Tenyo T-shirt on Jp magic blog Hey Presto ! :

http://jpmagic.blog34.fc2.com/blog-entry-1250.html

Unfortunately it was an April Fool !!
Message: Posted by: stereo (Apr 4, 2013 08:18AM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-25 10:15, merlin2812 wrote:
Great to see they used both english and japonese on the tokens!
Don't know if it is very logical since the "specials" are mainly for the japonese people, but great for all of us non japonese speakers!
[/quote]

Tenyo explain This is to allow the Japanese customers to do the trick to their friends from other countries.
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Apr 4, 2013 09:25PM)
The new Sushi "special" is Japanese-language based, so they give some other items at the end of the instructions that are not Japanese-language dependent.
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 19, 2013 11:30AM)
For those interested, I've posted a (personal) [b][i]review[/i][/b] of the Tenyo 2013 Special Magical Sushi [url=http://www.tenyo.be]on my website[/url]. I like the trick ... well ... more or less ;)
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Apr 19, 2013 03:45PM)
Great review David, thanks for sharing.
Message: Posted by: scenic effects (Apr 20, 2013 06:25PM)
Killertweety,

Thanks for your review of Magical Sushi; what's your opinion of laminating it after I purchase it to possibly make it more durable?
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Apr 21, 2013 03:18AM)
It could be done I suppose, but the cards are really thin so you'll have to be carefull.
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Apr 21, 2013 07:28AM)
I think you could laminate them with no problem. The only question is whether they will fit back into their little case afterward.
Message: Posted by: stereo (May 6, 2013 09:36AM)
Hello,
For those who will not regularly watch the blog here are the latest major additions that I published :

Tenyo 1984 Gold & Silver by Hiroshi Kondo:
http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.fr/2013/05/tenyo-gold-and-silver.html

Tenyo 1984 Super Balloon:
http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.fr/2013/04/tenyo-super-balloon.html

1984 Tenyo Japanese Best Magician's Selection Catalog:
http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.fr/2013/05/1984-tenyo-catalog.html

Tenyo Hikita ESP Deck:
http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.fr/2013/05/tenyo-esp-deck.html

Tenyo Magic Show ! Magic Set:
http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.fr/2013/05/tenyo-thats-show.html

Detailled Post with each versions of Card Case, Including one that I think nobody knows:
http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.fr/2010/05/t-040.html

There are other updates that you can find in the section "What's New?" There are a lot of things to come.

On another note jpmagic and his blog Hey presto! has created a Tenyo section on its website, so you can directly enter and find all post about Tenyo :
http://jpmagic.blog34.fc2.com/blog-category-13.html

Again, I want to thank him for his valuable help and his friendship.

Enjoy.
Message: Posted by: stereo (May 13, 2013 02:10PM)
Tenyo will market again T-193 Magic Painting. It will be available before the end of the month at Magico Japan ebay shop.

http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.fr/2010/05/t-193-magic-painting.html

It's not the first time that Magic Painting is released again with different packaging.

Tenyo will also market a new magic Wallet : Le Paul Wallet
This wallet has been designed so that a chosen card, ring, coin, credit card, etc., appears inside a "sealed" envelope, inside the zippered compartment.)
Tenyo markets many magic Wallet, like some years ago with ATM Wallet. http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.fr/2011/06/tenyo-atm-wallet.html
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (May 13, 2013 02:56PM)
Thanks Stereo for the update. There are a number of good magic wallet manufacturers now. I wonder who is the primary target for the Tenyo wallets as the N.A. market is pretty well serviced.
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (May 13, 2013 06:41PM)
The new 2014 line of Tenyo items will be made public in Japan in mid June.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (May 13, 2013 07:28PM)
That seems really early this year?
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (May 13, 2013 10:43PM)
They will debut at the Tokyo Toy Fair. Not sure if this is earlier than usual or not. We just may be used to hearing about them later.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (May 13, 2013 11:01PM)
[quote]
On 2013-05-13 15:10, stereo wrote:
Tenyo will market again T-193 Magic Painting. It will be available before the end of the month at Magico Japan ebay shop.

http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.fr/2010/05/t-193-magic-painting.html

It's not the first time that Magic Painting is released again with different packaging.

Tenyo will also market a new magic Wallet : Le Paul Wallet
This wallet has been designed so that a chosen card, ring, coin, credit card, etc., appears inside a "sealed" envelope, inside the zippered compartment.)
Tenyo markets many magic Wallet, like some years ago with ATM Wallet. http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.fr/2011/06/tenyo-atm-wallet.html
[/quote]

That is good news as I was thinking about getting Magic Painting after seeing Killers recent recommendation and watching the video. So I can wait and get it cheap now. :)

Richard
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (May 14, 2013 08:53PM)
Richard, Angelo, Stereo or anyone else out there who has the inside scoop... this may have been addressed elsewhere, but what is the average turn-around time for a new effect from the inception, through the research and development, to the production and distribution? I'm guessing 3 years?
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (May 14, 2013 09:10PM)
The turnaround is usually less than one year.
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (May 15, 2013 09:21PM)
OK. That's a lot quicker than I thought, but it obviously gets done. I would imagine a lot of these effects were reworked and finessed by the creators before they're even brought to the main presentations for consideration...so that would increase the "development" time if you looked at it holistically. Still, less than a year for the production of a product from approval to delivery is remarkable, is it not?
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (May 16, 2013 12:30AM)
I really don't know how the rest of the toy business works in other countries.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (May 17, 2013 09:23PM)
If you want to read a fascinating inside look at the toy business I reccomend this read....

http://www.amazon.com/Toy-Monster-Big-World-Mattel/dp/0470548584
Message: Posted by: pierredan (May 22, 2013 10:52AM)
T-193 Magic Painting is now available at Magico Japan ebay shop.
Message: Posted by: xl18 (May 24, 2013 01:01AM)
According to Tenyo's Facebook page it look like they are re-releasing Magical Sneakers as well.
That was the 2007 special trick and is a nice packet trick worth picking up.
I think you can expect Magico Japan to have that one also in the next couple of weeks.
Message: Posted by: stereo (May 24, 2013 07:28AM)
That's the best news of the day !!! Thank you !!
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (May 25, 2013 05:53PM)
[quote]
On 2013-05-24 02:01, xl18 wrote:
According to Tenyo's Facebook page it look like they are re-releasing Magical Sneakers as well.
That was the 2007 special trick and is a nice packet trick worth picking up.
I think you can expect Magico Japan to have that one also in the next couple of weeks.
[/quote]

Good deal I will be for sure getting this if it appears again.
along with Magic Painting.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Jun 16, 2013 05:19PM)
You can find the first informations about 2014 Line on my blog :

http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.fr/

I'll add the other tricks in the coming days.

Enjoy !
Message: Posted by: psychod (Jun 16, 2013 07:16PM)
Stereo,

It's not nice to keep us "Tenyo-ites" chomping at the bit! Now we've got to wait until November for the new Tenyo as well as waiting for Richard's book! On the flip side, I've always believed that the anticipation is a lot of the fun!

Dave
Message: Posted by: merlin2812 (Jun 17, 2013 02:52AM)
Great! A new Lubor Fiedler effect for 2013!!!!!
Message: Posted by: stereo (Jun 17, 2013 10:58AM)
Just add another trick !
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Jun 17, 2013 11:56AM)
Vision looks to be a great effect ;)
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Jun 22, 2013 09:08PM)
I will be curious to see the video demos of these effects. The descriptions alone leave me feeling a little disappointed...but at least there is the new Tenyo book coming out.
Of the four, Vision is the one that intrigues me most.
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Jun 23, 2013 07:34AM)
The method for forcing 3 cards in "Transformation" reminds me of Triple Impact, one of my favourite prediction effects: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ShkyTg8m0 . The use of a gimmicked envelope (which I believe will be the case) is not a bad idea. But I could be completely wrong of course and I'm sure Tenyo will add something special :)

I don't know what to think of the other three; Vision sounds to good to be true, I have no idea what to think about Lubor's effect (which will be great I'm sure) and I really hope Flash Money will be able to be performed with EURO currency! As Davy wrote Flash Money isn't the most 'original' effect but most people like this kind of effect a lot. The fact that it will be easy to do sounds great :)

I am dissapointed Angelo Carbone's trick with the cube isn't among the releases of next year ... . I hope he will be able to find another manufacturer which will produce it.
Message: Posted by: Bob_Hummer (Jun 23, 2013 08:04AM)
I missed the info about Carbone's trick with the cube. Do you know where it was mentioned?
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Jun 23, 2013 08:45AM)
The trick I was refering too is on Stereo's blog: http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.be/p/last-news.html (the picture with all the staff around the table, it is in the middle of the table).
Message: Posted by: Angelo Carbone (Jun 23, 2013 10:40AM)
I submitted a new trick to Tenyo quite late. As far as I know they liked it a lot and are on their second prototype. However due to tooling and timing, they are unable to release it this year and will consider it for next year's range. It is not the Block Drop effect. Something completely different only close friends have seen. Fingers crossed.
Message: Posted by: Angelo Carbone (Jun 23, 2013 02:15PM)
[quote]
On 2013-06-23 09:45, Killertweety wrote:
The trick I was refering too is on Stereo's blog: http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.be/p/last-news.html (the picture with all the staff around the table, it is in the middle of the table).
[/quote]

I have studied the photo up close and don't recognise anything on the table of mine. Perhaps that cube thing was something else.
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Jun 23, 2013 03:38PM)
If Tenyo does put out the trick Angelo submitted, it will blow your brains!
Message: Posted by: merlin2812 (Jun 24, 2013 07:55AM)
So finger crossed for next year!
Message: Posted by: stereo (Aug 28, 2013 07:32AM)
4 brand new Tenyo Disney tricks in Super Magic Collection including some of the best tenyo tricks like blue Crystal and Invisible Zone :

http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.fr/p/last-news.html
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Aug 28, 2013 11:34AM)
Thanks for the update!

Bad news for me is I happen to hate both Invisible zone and Blue Crystal... I know people love them, to me they are some of th worst Tenyo Effects... oh well.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Aug 29, 2013 08:37AM)
I do not collect the Disney versions but may need to check a couple of those out. I am on the other side of the fence and like Blue Crystal and Invisible zone... no worries teevtee if we all liked the same things life would be pretty boring.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 18, 2013 04:14AM)
Tenyo post photo of package of 2 Tenyo 2014 :

[url=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/wk8o.jpg/][img]http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4416/wk8o.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/d45g.jpg/][img]http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8594/d45g.jpg[/img][/url]

The design of package is very disappointing ...
Message: Posted by: mirror mate (Sep 18, 2013 06:21AM)
Yes I think I will stick to my sealed mint Billscape Package lol! MM
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Sep 18, 2013 10:05AM)
I'm not sure those are the final package designs. They appear to be missing elements.
However, they are going to be selling the items on Sunday at the Tenyo Magic Festival, so I assume the boxes are already printed.
Message: Posted by: mirror mate (Sep 18, 2013 11:03AM)
Never mind the package designs what about some of the trash Tenyo throw out nowadays,long gone are the awesome mini micro illusions like Mirage,Ninja experiment, crystal cleaver etc, now all we seem to get is tosh like pop up card and tricks made out of paper, I wish they would go back to creating mini miracles like ultra tube , Excalibur etc etc. wish theyd sort their act out.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 18, 2013 12:30PM)
I think Magical MRI is one of Typical Tenyo What we will love regarding the first review.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Sep 19, 2013 12:19PM)
[quote]
On 2013-09-18 13:30, stereo wrote:
I think Magical MRI is one of Typical Tenyo What we will love regarding the first review.

[/quote]

Yes that does look cool Stereo, as always thanks for the update.

John
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Sep 19, 2013 09:40PM)
Thanks for the heads-up Stereo and Richard.
For me, good or bad, I love these insights...I just keep reminding myself to keep an objective vantage point until I hear and see the real deal.
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Sep 19, 2013 10:17PM)
Customers in Japan want ordinary looking items at this particular time. Tenyo is catering to their customers desires. It has nothing to do with cost, or anything else.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 20, 2013 04:35AM)
[url=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/33/b34s.jpg/][img]http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/534/b34s.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/iks1.jpg/][img]http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8738/iks1.jpg[/img][/url]


No Blister package this year :(
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 23, 2013 05:28AM)
You can look at all the back of package on the blog. Now I understand better how lubor's routine happen.
MRI means : Miracle Reflection Image ^^

http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.fr/2013/06/tenyo-2014.html
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 23, 2013 09:16AM)
Funny to see the design and color of Kondo's 4D printer is close to the one of Kondo's Sandwich Platter.
Message: Posted by: Bob_Hummer (Sep 23, 2013 11:19AM)
The Lubor Fiedler trick looks like a use for the WOW gimmick by Masuda.
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Sep 23, 2013 01:38PM)
The cards don't just vanish in Lubor's effect--they are reproduced. The prop is quite versatile. Just like "Blue Crystal," people will find more things to use it for. I already have a great routine that will go in the book.
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Sep 23, 2013 01:44PM)
I hate to be a downer btu this years crop seems really weak to me. Only "Vision" holds any interest and the Lubor effect appears to obvious as to be comical. I understand this is based SOLEY of the description and photos on the package but come on. I hope I am proved wrong.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Sep 24, 2013 09:48AM)
Have you seen a demo teevee of the Lubor effect? They played a demo during his talk at Magic Live of the prototype and it looked pretty cool. I wouldn't dismiss it just yet.

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Sep 24, 2013 10:11AM)
I saw all four items demonstrated using the prototypes back in July when I was at the Tenyo offices. Teevee has no idea what any of the products look like when performed, so his comments are of little practical value.

While "Magical MRI" may be the standout item for magicians outside of Japan "as is," Lubor's "Ghost Cards" will provide the most opportunity for magicians to do something really interesting with the prop. It looks quite amazing, both to magicians and laymen.

For laymen, I think Komiya's version of "Flash Cash," called "Money Shock," will be the most popular seller. But that's just a guess. The reports I heard from people who were at the Tenyo Festival last Sunday and watched the customers who were seeing all the items being demonstrated for the first time were heard to exclaim loudly in surprise when the demonstrators dealt the bills to the table at the end of "Money Shock."

The most practical trick for many magicians who perform in standup situations will be Kondo's "4D Printer." This has the same clever retention of vision through the window in the envelope as "Sidetrack" and "Mobile Illusion." And the trick is versatile because the cards used can be customized to special occasions.

Different tricks appeal to different people for different reasons. There are no tricks in this line that are completely uninteresting like "Cloud Money" or "China Surprise," and that's a good thing! But it's clear, I think, that "Magical MRI" is something special and will be remembered as one of Tenyo's best items in the future.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 24, 2013 10:49AM)
A trick designed by Hiroshi Kondo is something special too for me. The previous is from 2003 and this may be the last.
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Sep 24, 2013 11:09AM)
No John I hve not seen a demo... as I mentioned my remarks are based ONLY on the photos and the descriptions. With that said I still feel they are not appealing to me but I certainly hope to be proven wrong.
Richard: As far as my comments having "no practical value" the value is simply in being an opinion, nothng more or less. As I clearly stated it was only my opinion based on what I have seen.
Opinions are good things and I think they shoudl be encouraged... opinions can also change and perhaps mine will once I learn more.
I totally acknowledge that I currently have limited knowledge of the product but the descriptions and photos that have been released merit early thoughts and comments. If I happened to LOVE the effects based on what we now know those opinions would be no more or less valuable.

I am a big Tenyo fan... these just don't excite me. One point that I have mentioned in the past that is a little out of step with many here is that as a general rule (there are exceptions) I am not a huge fan of Lubor's past work. For example I strongly dislike Blue Crystal so that personal bias of mine weighs in to some extent I am sure.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Sep 24, 2013 11:31AM)
OK teevee now you've crossed line and must be thrown out! Kidding! Of course different opinions are fine otherwise it would be pretty boring. Was just curious if you had seen a demo, not sure if the one they showed at Magic Live is available anywhere. The effect may well suck but being a Lubor fan am hoping not.

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: mirror mate (Sep 24, 2013 12:11PM)
I agree with teevtee I am not very impressed with lubors work either, I detest invisible zone and blue crystal aswell, and card surgery is very overated in my opinion.. MM
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Sep 24, 2013 12:51PM)
Different strokes I guess... For me Lubor is a bright light in the world of magic creativity, especially given the amount of rehashed and repackaged old ideas we see in the magic marketplace today.

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: ChasVH (Sep 24, 2013 01:29PM)
Look... if you are a Tenyo fan and collector you are going to be buying all of these no matter what. It is hard to to knock all 4 out the park. At face value it certainly appears as if Magical MRI will be a Home run and a keeper and one of those ones that people in the future might be searching for their collections. I am sure one or two of the other three will surprise us and be way better than they look on paper and one will just be so-so. That is just the way it has been going recently. For one... I cant wait to get my hands on all of them.

Charlie
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Sep 24, 2013 02:06PM)
So true Charlie. Even if you look back to the "golden" years not all items in a given year were gems. We will soon know about this years items....
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 24, 2013 02:12PM)
Detest Invisible Zone ? That's funny. It's so Tenyo, so miraculous. This is proof that it takes all tastes to make a world.
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Sep 24, 2013 02:58PM)
I agree that I will likely purchase them all... but that doesn't mean I'll liek it! ;-)

Seriously I tend to side with Mirror Mate on the Lubor stuff. I greatly respect his creativity and contributions to magic and I 100% totally agree with John that most magic today is repetative and unoriginal and you cannot say that about Lubor's work. But still, even with that said I just do not find many of his effects to be very convincing, they often seem very proppy and toy like to me. But I guess you could say that about a lot of Tenyo stuff and in general it does nto bother me. but liek Mirror I really dislike Invisible Zone... I have never seen it fool anyone other than a child and it just does not appeal to me.

To me Crystal Cleaver is probably the #1 Tenyo effect, I love Bill Escape, Prison Box and many others as well... but not Invisible Zone of Blue Crystal... they rate near my personal bottom.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Sep 24, 2013 03:38PM)
No worries teevee we like Tenyo for different reasons. I prefer the proppy toy-like items with off the wall methods the most. When I perform it is usually non Tenyo mentalism material now... when I collect it is novel, weird, cool methods.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 25, 2013 02:04AM)
Short Video, you'll like it teevte ^^ (irony) lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFQRazToUUQ
Message: Posted by: merlin2812 (Sep 25, 2013 09:20AM)
I already love those tricks! ;-)
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Sep 25, 2013 12:41PM)
HA! Thanks Stereo...

I can't say that my mind has been changed... in fact it has confirmed what I thought previously... oh well, I can't love them all.
I do think that the dice one looks interesting though... I am holding out hope for that.

And for the record, when it comes to Tenyo I also liek the proppy clever mechanisms so I am not expressing why I do not love Lubor's tricks very well. I'm not sure what it is, I just tend not to react to many of his tricks.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 25, 2013 12:58PM)
Regarding this video, it does not really highlights lubor's trick lol So I understand your don't change your mind !!
Even me seeing that I thought "oh no !" lol

I don't like Blue Crystal too that much but for Invisible Zone I don't understand at all because it's the trick that every time I perform it the people love, are amazed and do not understand at all. Its clever, mini illusion, great mechanism, And the use of classic Bic orange pen is really good because everyone know this pen.
So, Detest ? at this point? Tell me why. I want to understand.
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Sep 25, 2013 03:09PM)
Well I did not say detest... that was Mirror Mate... I said dislike...

Why? I don't know, why do you dislike a food or whatever? It just does not appeal to me.

If I had to break it down I think it is that the method seems so obvious to me. It was obvious the first time I ever saw it. Maybe it is the magician in me speaking but I think when you open the door and see the emtpy space (spring) people can just assume that what really happened is how it happened. In other words it leaves no real explaination other than the actual one so it is easy to guess.

Somehting liek say Crystal Cleaver does not have an obvious method... so people can trick themselves into thinking this or that happened... with Invisibel Zone they can only say "Well I guess the pen never REALLY wen in there" and guess what... they are correct.

Plus you cannot examine it... if you coudl somehow hand it out then cool... but you cannot and that just cements it for me. Whenever I see it ranked as one of the best Tenyo effects I am always confused by that but I knwo I am in the minority here.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 25, 2013 03:30PM)
Ok,I understood. Thank you ;o)
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Sep 25, 2013 05:03PM)
It's one thing to say that you don't like "Invisible Zone," though justifying the statement would be difficult. But to say it doesn't fool anyone but children tells us that you can't perform a simple magic trick. "Invisible Zone" is amazingly deceptive to anyone, adult or child, magician or laymen.

As far as "Blue Crystal," the routine that will change your mind will be published in the Tenyo book.

And if you haven't tried performing "Third Eye" on some people, you're missing a great trick.

Not every prop has to be examinable--this is where performing experience comes in.
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Sep 25, 2013 05:10PM)
I'm not sure if you intend to be insulting or not Richard but I hope not.
I assure you that I can perform this simple magic trick just fine. Just because my experiences differ from yours does not invalidate them or make me incompetent.

I don't need to justify my opinions nor do you or anyone else, opinions by definition cannot be proven right or wrong.

I am very open minded and love to be proven wrong. I look forward to your Blue Crystal routine.
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Sep 25, 2013 07:21PM)
The routine is Shimomura's, not mine, but I have been performing it steadily and people tend to jump back a step at the magic moment.
Message: Posted by: Houdini103126 (Sep 26, 2013 01:47PM)
Invisible Zone is an excellent trick.

Invariably with ALL magic tricks, instructions and patter recommendations are only "guides". The user is left to interpret a trick's instructions and the results don't always pan out so well. That said, most people don't work a trick enough to become good or competent with it.

Thunderstaff can be a good trick in the hands of the right magician, and I think it sucks.

I can say that I have had the fortune of seeing some of Richard's handlings and they are excellent. He's not using any special skills either other than alternate and/or optimized handlings.

Blue Crystal is an underrated and wonderful trick, but I can tell you that when modified a certain way, it's even better ;)
Message: Posted by: Houdini103126 (Sep 26, 2013 01:49PM)
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On 2013-09-24 15:58, teevtee wrote:
I agree that I will likely purchase them all... but that doesn't mean I'll liek it! ;-)

Seriously I tend to side with Mirror Mate on the Lubor stuff. I greatly respect his creativity and contributions to magic and I 100% totally agree with John that most magic today is repetative and unoriginal and you cannot say that about Lubor's work. But still, even with that said I just do not find many of his effects to be very convincing, they often seem very proppy and toy like to me. But I guess you could say that about a lot of Tenyo stuff and in general it does nto bother me. but liek Mirror I really dislike Invisible Zone... I have never seen it fool anyone other than a child and it just does not appeal to me.

To me Crystal Cleaver is probably the #1 Tenyo effect, I love Bill Escape, Prison Box and many others as well... but not Invisible Zone of Blue Crystal... they rate near my personal bottom.
[/quote]

Lubor is a genius. Truly one of modern day magic's greats.
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Sep 26, 2013 02:50PM)
It's interesting how passionate people can get about this kind of thing. I LOVE passion so it is certainly not a bad thing but it sort of reminds me of iPhone lovers versus Android fans or back in the day Sega vs. Nintendo or whatever.
There is no right or wrong answer. It's OK to NOT like something and it does not mean that person is ignorant or incapable of understanding... it simply means that tastes differ.

Invisible Zone to me is not my favorite trick, that takes nothing away from those who love it. I think I actually perform it very well. I have nearly 4 decades of performing magic under my belt... I am by no means a "master" nor am I even a professional but I do have a great deal of experience and it is a very simple trick to perform. So I don't think it is so much about that... I don't like it when I see OTHER people perform it. It's just not my thing for whatever reason.

Again, that is not a slam on those who clearly love it or those who created it... just one guys (valid) opinion.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Sep 26, 2013 03:14PM)
Hi teevee I don't think anyone is thinking you are slamming anyone, by all means share your opinions and others will too... keeps things interesting. Believe me there are many tricks in magic that I dislike that others really like and vice versa. Lubor definitely has a solid fan base, myself included, but doesn't mean everyone has to like everything he does.

For me I am not a huge fan of Billscape although it is a big favorite of many. It is a good trick but as a Tenyo item doesn't meet the criteria of my favorite tricks... cool mechanical method and unusual design... but no I am not interested in selling mine if anyone was wondering :)

I am interested in this Blue Crystal handling though... Richard any update on the book progress?
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Sep 26, 2013 03:27PM)
I'll give Invisible Zone props for being a mechanically cool thing. In that sense I like it and I agree that it is very Tenyo-like. But as an actual effect it has never done much for me.

I am going out on a limb here because I have never thought much about this but I wonder if a trick never fools you if that then has a huge influence on how you think about it... it certainly makes sense.
From the first moment I saw Invisible Zone I guessed exactly how it was done... it just seemed so obvious to me that it was never "magical". I was kind of interested to see how it worked machanically but there was never a sense of "wow" or "how can that be".
No Billscape on the other hand had be totally confused... and while it does not have the mechanical wackiness learning the method only made me like it more. But I wonder if that is simply because it tricked me.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Sep 26, 2013 04:03PM)
I definitely think it will probally have a bigger impact if it fooled us originally, especially for Tenyo where the method is a big selling point usually.
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Sep 26, 2013 05:20PM)
I agree: being fooled by something will definitely affect your opinion of it.

The book is coming well. Just hit 200,000 words. It's looking more like it will be two 400-page volumes. It's just a helluva lot of thinking and writing! Part of the fun is going back and relearning every Tenyo trick from its written instructions. It's amazing how many people leave out important details that are clearly explained in the instructions when doing a trick.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Sep 26, 2013 06:55PM)
Thanks for the update Richard. Sounds like there will many new insights, can't wait.
Message: Posted by: Choi Sin To (Sep 27, 2013 12:38AM)
Hey!Guys.

Just copy from seomagic jp.Enjoy!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aldlyfIjcsk&feature=c4-overview&list=UUHIxQIhjmF6hQAaVich-h3g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-YkHwNcfoI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSoPWiOAdO4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUHIxQIhjmF6hQAaVich-h3g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCs89onqy7Y
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 27, 2013 04:08AM)
Thank you !!
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 27, 2013 04:10AM)
The cards used in Kondo's trick use the back design of Third Eye cards. That's strange.

Very good year for me.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 27, 2013 07:08AM)
I'm curious about MRI gimmick lol
And for those who think the card is marked for the final part I have read somewhere that you can use borrowed deck. But this have to be verified or confirmed.
Love Lubor's idea. Look funny to use.
4D Printer is the less interesting for me, but not that bad and nice 70's Design.
I love Money Shock too, easy way to perform a visual trick for beginners like me ^^
None of the 4 is examinable.
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Sep 27, 2013 08:23AM)
Thanks for the awesome videos!

I agre that MRI looks really interesting and strong. I assumed the deck was NOT marked (or else what's the point?) and therefore the card phase may be even stronger than the dice... but I really liek this and see lots of possiblities.

The Lubor deck trick is somewhat interesting to see but I am still not a fan. I think it feels more like a cool optical illusion or something and less like any kind of actual magic... but I do think it looks great when he first pushes the deck in and there are ways to do good presentations I am sure... just not quite my thing.

Money Shock actually looks quite good. There are so many dozens of similar effects and many methods that I think a lot of this one will come down to how it is done. In the method is simple and clean (as I woudl imagine a Tenyou trick woudl be) then this might be a winner.

The card trick looks kind of weak to me. Again it seems like the method is pretty clear and it just seems a little out of place with the others.

So of the bunch MRI is the one I am excited about and I look forward to learningmore about the others as well.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Sep 27, 2013 09:46AM)
Great to have some real demos to look at. Look good. Money shock is the least interesting to me as there are so many great and easy options for that effect already on the market. MRI looks neat although I have a hard time believing you could do the card effect without a marked back... hope I am wrong. The Lubor efect looks better on this demo than the first one we saw, I like this but then again I love weird optical effects and methods. As Richard hinted I can see other aplications for this. 4D printer looks old school which I like. Overall looks promising, anyone heard a N.A. release date?
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 27, 2013 10:49AM)
The deck is not marked and can be borrowed for MRI, I'm sure about that now as I understood the method.
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Sep 27, 2013 10:54AM)
I wonder if the Lubor effect might not be stronger pushing the deck into something other than your body... like a table top. Maybe push it half way through the table and then "rip" it in half producing the other half from underneath?
Or maybe somehow pushing it through a mirror or somehting?

I'm not sure... it seems like the gimmick is fairly cool and theer could be some sort of rationale for the case.... But when it is being pushed into your neck or whatever it starts to lose it for me.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 27, 2013 11:23AM)
Agree with you ! I think it's why Richard say it's very versatil props.
Message: Posted by: cyberdave03 (Sep 27, 2013 11:47AM)
How is this "new" Tenyo trick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSoPWiOAdO4&feature=share&list=UUHIxQIhjmF6hQAaVich-h3g

any different than Richard Sanders' Extreme Burn, which has been out for years?

http://youtu.be/yfBT-WvVm5s

Also, in this one, he's not fooling anyone by discarding the cut and taking the 3 cards from what is the top of the deck, which of course, are likely planted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCs89onqy7Y&feature=share&list=UUHIxQIhjmF6hQAaVich-h3g
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Sep 27, 2013 12:02PM)
Any idea of Money Shock will be only in Yen or if they are making it sized for US or European currancy as well?
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Sep 27, 2013 01:32PM)
Good to hear about MRI Stereo, thanks.

Agreed cyberdave looks a lot like Extreme Burn. No question he is forcing the cards, the prop is basically a utility device to allow you to switch three blank cards for three printed cards. Tough to do the criss rcoss force on video without being obvious.

The geeky demo for the Lubor effect will probably have shock appeal to laymen and casual magic buyers. Agreed that there are no doubt better magic applications.

teevee one can only assume it will be applicable to N.A. currency otherwise the sales will be pretty limited.
Message: Posted by: MagicZathuro (Sep 27, 2013 01:39PM)
Any idea of the release date?
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Sep 27, 2013 02:08PM)
Yea JM.... in the past as we know Tenyo money tricks come in Yen or US but recently with the Japanese only packaging and so forth it has me questioning things a bit more.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 27, 2013 02:11PM)
Yes There will be US version of Money Shock acording Richard K on Genii forum.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 27, 2013 05:04PM)
And 4-D printer is not made of plastic. Is made of thick paper !
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Sep 27, 2013 09:51PM)
The original version of "Money Shock" is Pat Page's "Flash Cash," which was popularized by Fred Kaps starting in the 1960s. Every version out there is a variation on Pat Page's original effect. Tenyo's version is designed to appeal to their main customer base, Japanese laymen, who can't do the fancy versions that require sleight of hand. It is self-working, has a little something unique to the Tenyo version at the moment the bills "print" and the bills can also be dealt to the table at the end. It's a good handling of a classic trick for someone who wants it to be essentially self-working.

Release date for all these tricks in Japan is mid October. For the US I think it will be before the end of the year. For all of you who obtain the trick from Hitomi or Seo-Magic, while they provide written instructions in English, these are NOT Tenyo's official instructions or translations of them. You should keep that in mind because they often don't translate all the details.

Because I'm writing the book, Tenyo sent me a set of the new items right after they were first sold at the Tenyo Festival last Sunday. I got them today. All are better in person, and in handling, than they appear in the videos.

When Lubor created "Ghost Card," the vanished half of the packet popped out of his mouth after going through his cheek, and this made perfect sense. Not many people want to stick half a packet of cards in their mouth, so Tenyo developed a different method for reproducing the vanished half of the packet. But, I thought of something that seems better today. I call the packet "Vampire Cards" and I tilt my chin up and push them into my NECK just to the right of center. Looks great--like they are going right into my throat. Then I reproduce the vanished half of the packet from behind my shirt collar (ala Tenyo). Can you push the packet into something other than flesh? Yes, but some with a little "give" looks better. You can also perform the trick with various bits of female and male genetalia. :)

The dice which come with "Magical MRI" are ungimmicked, and any deck of cards may be used. There are other items that can be used with the trick--the method has nothing to do with the extra props.

And "4D Printer" really looks a LOT better in person. Just because you know the Criss Cross Force doesn't mean that laymen do. I did the trick for both my wife and the Genii office manager today (separately). They were both fooled by the force. Tenyo has to use a force that requires no sleight of hand. You can force the cards any *** way you please. When you remove the printed jumbo cards from the envelope it gets a gasp. The retention of vision through the window is similar to what you get with "Mobile Illusion," "Midas Machine," and "Sidetrack."
Message: Posted by: MagicZathuro (Sep 28, 2013 01:50AM)
Hm, I'm going to Tokyo tomorrow, that's obviously to early, so I have to go again in November. Tank you Richard.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Sep 28, 2013 07:10AM)
The Criss Cross Force always work perfectly !!! Sometimes the simplest things are the best !!
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Sep 28, 2013 09:21AM)
Thanks for the updates everybody. I had a meh feeling about these effects before, but not now. I'm really looking forward to this year's releases.
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Sep 28, 2013 09:53AM)
It's not the cross cross force that concerns me, obviously any force can be substituted.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Sep 28, 2013 11:29AM)
[quote]
On 2013-09-27 22:51, Richard Kaufman wrote:
You can also perform the trick with various bits of female and male genetalia. :)

[/quote]

Remind me not to bid on this if Richard puts it up for sale.... :)

Agreed that the cross cross force is a fine tool, my only point was it is tough to do on video without any misdirection.

Hitomi does send out abbreviated instructions initially Richard but emails the actual instructions as PDF's to her customers when they are ready. As great as Hitomi is I am going to buy the set again this year from my local brick and mortor shop... if you can support a local shop please do.

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Sep 28, 2013 04:21PM)
These days, I think most collectors buy two of each item: one to keep sealed, one to open and play with. When they're new, the products are inexpensive. So you can buy the first batch from Hitomi, and the ones to keep sealed from your local dealer, satisfying both desires.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Sep 28, 2013 04:41PM)
That works.... so what is your favorite of the bunch Richard? Will you highlight the new line in Genii this year?
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Sep 28, 2013 11:38PM)
I can't say what my favorite is yet. Less prone to snap judgments than I used to be. But obviously "Magical MRI" will join other Tenyo classics.
Message: Posted by: oralroberts (Sep 30, 2013 09:47AM)
Truly random video...but worth sharing :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqxHrMtLHtk

can't remember how I stumbled on this.
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Sep 30, 2013 10:38AM)
This one is fun: watch the guy's reaction after he opens the box and examines how "Magical MRI" works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGD-Thnp6cs
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Sep 30, 2013 08:00PM)
That's great Richard. It kind of sums up our love for Tenyo in a few seconds. It's that wonderful, irreplaceable "Aha" moment that all of us have had when we find out how these little pieces of mysteries work.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Oct 1, 2013 02:11PM)
That definitely made me smile, thanks for sharing.
Message: Posted by: merlin2812 (Oct 2, 2013 01:03AM)
I didn't know there was any 'open the box' videos for Tenyo effects! And then, doing the trick right after the opening!!!!
Just getting more and more curious about this one. Can't wait!
Thanks for the sharing!

merlin
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Oct 2, 2013 02:48AM)
4D Printer looks classic Tenyo, in the style of Mobile illusion only a lot bigger. The forcing of the cards is easy to spot for us magicians but as mentioned before this doesn't have to be a problem with 'laymen'.

I don't know what to think of MRI really. It is stunning but there are more clever ways to reveal a chosen number on a die, like Multidimensional but of course this costs 10 times more and you can only use the supplied die ;)
What bothers me most is the dice seem to be so close to the plate. It reminds me a bit of X-ray File, but that one has a few advantages: the card can be with face towards spectators and it has some sort of locking mechanism so spectators can really see the magician can't see anything from behind. Of course it looks more 'gimmicky' and it can only be done with cards.
Is it some one-way-see through plate with a locking mechanism so spectators can really see from behind and see nothing, or is the secret lost when spectators see from behind? Is it a small mirror on the bottom of the plate? We'll have to wait and find out :)

The money trick has be done so many times but I'm sure Tenyo will have it's own easy to use gimmick. I've given up hope that it will be released with EURO-gimmick which is unfortunate of course. I hope we can make our own EURO-gimmick.

Lubor's trick is a nice litle mini illusion, a quick trick to perform when you have visitors.
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Oct 2, 2013 09:26AM)
Killer:

Good points all around about MRI but to me being close to the plate does nto seem fishy. If they were farther from the plate spectators may think that you coudl somehow see over or around it... having it right up against the plate actually makes it MORE "fair" to me.
I could see a routine where the magician and the spectator both have a set of dice and roll them on opposite sides of the plate. They each push the dice to the plate so the other cannot see and then try to "guess" the other's number etc. You coudl easily combne MRI with any number of mentalism routines and the actual MRI unit just becomes a meaningless prop being used to sheild the actions of the other person. I don't think it would have any heat whatsoever. Especially if it were used for several effects where it really was just being used as a shield... not uning the MRI gimmick or method at all. Then in the middle somewhere you use it for it's intended purpose... then continue to use it as a shield.

I think MRI has the potential to be a strong untility item in this way.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Oct 2, 2013 10:05AM)
Agree that MRI looks cool. I can see creating some patter around Uri Geller on this... talk about how they would put him in a metal lined room to conduct thought transference experiments, etc.
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Oct 3, 2013 06:21PM)
Yes, the items placed in front of "Magical MRI" must be very close to the frame, or else the spectators think you can see around it. Even when a playing is placed upright against the metal plate, they STILL think you can see around the frame because the effect is so impossible.

The frame does not look gimmicked at all, and the metal plate takes all the heat off it. It certainly doesn't look odd like "X-Ray File," which consists of a paper envelope stuck to a plastic stand. THAT is odd.
Message: Posted by: Ron Timmer (Oct 9, 2013 04:28AM)
We have received the sample's and made a few video's.

Ghost card: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y--n31mOdU
4D Printer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WFMiHJTdGY
Magical MRI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fclj0irLZMI

enjoy!
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Oct 9, 2013 07:16AM)
Bedankt voor de video's Ron!
Message: Posted by: Bob_Hummer (Oct 9, 2013 05:47PM)
Richard? Do you think the Tenyo book will be ready in time for Christmas? I can't wait for it!
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Oct 9, 2013 07:18PM)
No--I've written over 200,000 words, but still have a lot more to go! And then must also photograph all the tricks.

I'm hoping to have the text finished by early February.
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Oct 9, 2013 09:00PM)
Bob_Hummer, while I am as hopeful as you regarding the delivery of this book, let's keep in mind all that Richard still has to do:

1. He's done hundreds of hours of research that he must constantly refer to as source material.
2. Finish writing the book.
3. Edit his writing.
4. Proofread his writing.
5. Have someone else edit his writing.
6. Have someone else proofread his writing.
7. Have Tenyo give their blessings.
8. Look at Tenyo's non-blessings and re-write accordingly.
9. Repeat items 3-6.
10. Hope that Tenyo gives him their blessings and if not, go back to item 8, or continue on.
11. While items 2-10 are happening, Richard will need to consider the design and layout of his book and determine how many pages it needs to be which will affect the design and production costs, printing costs, packaging costs, mailing costs...
12. Look at item 11 and figure out how much room is left for photographs verses text, and how, when, and who will take the photographs and for how much?
13. Attain said items for photography.
14. Hire photographer and take photos.
15. Review and edit photos.
16. Submit photos to Tenyo for review and approval.
17. At this point I've found that I am in fact boring myself, and I haven't even approached the worst part of this process...final approval of the printer's proofs before the job prints...it can leave you not only biting off your fingernails, but biting off your entire hand...arm...

Anyway, give the man some time.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Oct 11, 2013 03:35PM)
Wow...i'm very surprised by the four 2014 tricks ! In fact after opening all the boxes 3 of 4 trick are made of paper !! Plastic molds are expensive now for Tenyo and I fell that Tenyo increasingly spend less money in Magic every years lol
Ghost card is very very fragile and in fact gimmick is very different from what I thought at first in it's construction. But well made. Really need that spectators are not too close ^^
MRI is the winner for me, because it's what we like from Tenyo, small plastic props with nice gimmick although it's not a revolution at all.
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Oct 12, 2013 12:32AM)
Thanks for the input Stereo.
MRI does look interesting but alas perhaps not a home run?
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Oct 12, 2013 01:52AM)
I agree with Stereo, it seems Tenyo tries to cut down on production costs, which is understandable. Ghost card being very fragile worries me a bit to be honest. Perhaps that is also the reason Angelo's trick with the cube didn't make it, it would be too expensive to mass produce.
The last [i]real[/i] 'plastic' gimmicky completely self working Tenyo-like 'toy' was Illusion Truck for me, and it has been discontinued already.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Oct 12, 2013 05:46AM)
MRI is great Teevte ! Funny trick, funny props, funny gimmick. Quality and plastic finish could have been better but it's ok.
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Oct 12, 2013 06:12AM)
Stereo: the point of the front of the plastic case is to diffuse the image so that spectators can be only a few feet from you when you do "Ghost Cards." It works: I've done it for a bunch of people who were about three feet away and there's no problem. Do not press the clear plastic front of the case as tightly against the face card of the packet if people are closer.

What the tricks are made of (not plastic) has nothing to do with cost. As I've written before, Tenyo is reacting to what Japanese consumers want in their products. which means more common looking objects rather than big hunks of plastic.

As far as my book, the Wiz has made it sound incredibly more complex than it really is. The book is being corrected and proofread by Hiroshi Kondo as I write, and I am also editing and rewriting while continuing to write new material. I also do my own photography. None of this is new for me, and it's just time consuming on a book of this size, but not terribly difficult.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Oct 12, 2013 08:23AM)
Thank you for the tips Richard, you are right about the use of the plastic case.
Do you know how Tenyo know what their japanese consumers want ? You think It only depends of previous sales ?
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Oct 18, 2013 10:38AM)
International Magic Auction is selling off a large estate, including quite a few Tenyo effects:
http://www.internationalmagicauction.com
Message: Posted by: Christian Rey (Oct 19, 2013 02:00PM)
Wondering what is the very latest effect released by Tenyo? Last one I got was "Card Surgery".
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Oct 19, 2013 06:41PM)
4 new 2014 effects coming soon. Read back in this thread a little for details.
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Oct 21, 2013 01:25PM)
Stereo, Tenyo has told me what their customers want, that's how I know. They base it upon both customer reactions, feedback, and actual sales.
Message: Posted by: Izzy Jay (Nov 4, 2013 10:49AM)
Anyone got any information on how if possible to convert Shock Money to accommodate U.S. Currency or Euro?
Message: Posted by: cyberdave03 (Nov 4, 2013 11:25AM)
Hitomi (Magico-Japan) is selling the 2014 line on the auction site now. Her description for Shock Money states to let her know which currency you want to convert to, and apparently she will provide the means.
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Nov 4, 2013 04:03PM)
Tenyo will be selling a US version of Money Shock by the end of November. There are multiple things that need to be changed to make a US version. I would not buy a version made for Japanese yen and modify it: there is something that you won't be able to replicate.
Message: Posted by: Izzy Jay (Nov 5, 2013 12:03AM)
Thanks for the answers. One more question, is Shock Money similar to Richard sanders' Extreme Burn 2.0? Or completely different?
Message: Posted by: MagicZathuro (Nov 5, 2013 12:22AM)
Just bought the 2014 line in a store in Tokyo. Looking forward to open them in a few minutes!
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Nov 5, 2013 10:06AM)
"Money Shock" is a new version of the ORIGINAL effect, Pat Page's "Flash Cash." Richard Sander's trick, and all the others like it, are fancier versions of "Flash Cash" which Tenyo's target audience of Japanese laymen could never do.
Message: Posted by: Dr. Eamon (Nov 5, 2013 09:43PM)
Does anyone know if MRI is examinable?
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Nov 5, 2013 10:15PM)
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On 2013-11-05 22:43, Dr. Eamon wrote:
Does anyone know if MRI is examinable?
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I received it today, and I would say yes.
Message: Posted by: mirror mate (Nov 6, 2013 08:22AM)
I have just ordered magical MRI and I cannot wait to get my hands on it!, I just feel let down by the other ticks if I'm honest,i was going to get 4d printer as I thought it was plastic,but being paper or thick card I think I will pass,also not interested in money tricks,i wish Tenyo would just go back to the plastic micro illusions that we are all so fond of, these last 2 0r 3 years have been nothin but dissapointment,crappy tricks made of card or paper.. come on tenyo please olease go back to your old plastic miracles I beg of you!! MM.
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Nov 8, 2013 02:25AM)
"4D Printer" is great. You're doing yourself a disservice by not purchasing it.
Message: Posted by: bigjay1974 (Nov 8, 2013 03:34PM)
Had all of the Tenyo 2014 effects for about a week now, fantastic range this year my fav in order are

1: MRI Scanner
2: 4D Printer
3: Ghost Card
4: Money Shock (1,000 JYN)
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (Nov 9, 2013 04:48AM)
Richard. I thought the original was called "Easy Money". I think the concern for many was it looks too close, as good as the other versions that you had to put work in building. See the difference? Thanks to Tenyo, now anyone can just buy something that looks just as good. don't forget Richard, to a lay audience, close enough is good enough. They only have to think they know how say the Extreme Burn works. IF they got it for their birthday from Grandma some of the effect you perform is diminished. If you are entertaining a fancy holdiday party and waited for that speical momement to do Extreme Burn. You Wow them and then some kid says "I have that at home"... Tenyo is distributed at such a high level that I am sure some are concerned for that reason. I am one hoping the gimmick is more limited than the video shows. But still the concept will be out there, too close to the original, surely will be posted by some idiot, as most Tenyo toys do,on the interweb and that is what many get concerned about.

PS Most versions you can table the money or paper if you wanted so that is not unique.

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On 2013-09-27 22:51, Richard Kaufman wrote:
The original version of "Money Shock" is Pat Page's "Flash Cash," which was popularized by Fred Kaps starting in the 1960s. Every version out there is a variation on Pat Page's original effect. Tenyo's version is designed to appeal to their main customer base, Japanese laymen, who can't do the fancy versions that require sleight of hand. It is self-working, has a little something unique to the Tenyo version at the moment the bills "print" and the bills can also be dealt to the table at the end. It's a good handling of a classic trick for someone who wants it to be essentially self-working.

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Message: Posted by: MagicZathuro (Nov 9, 2013 05:46AM)
[quote]
On 2013-11-05 22:43, Dr. Eamon wrote:
Does anyone know if MRI is examinable?

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I'd say no. Everything is, but the frame.
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Nov 9, 2013 07:29AM)
[quote]
On 2013-11-09 06:46, MagicZathuro wrote:
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On 2013-11-05 22:43, Dr. Eamon wrote:
Does anyone know if MRI is examinable?

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I'd say no. Everything is, but the frame.
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Well if MRI isn't examinable few Tenyo's are. I played 10 minutes with the thing and couldn't figure out what was needed to get the peek. So in my opinion it is examinable.

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On 2013-11-09 05:48, Powermagic wrote:
... Tenyo is distributed at such a high level that I am sure some are concerned for that reason. I am one hoping the gimmick is more limited than the video shows. But still the concept will be out there, too close to the original, [b]surely will be posted by some idiot, as most Tenyo toys do [/b],on the interweb and that is what many get concerned about.
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Extreme Burn as well as many other 'bill-changing-routines' are revealed on several fora and channels, with even tutorials on how to make the gimmick. I'm sorry if I misunderstand you, but you make it seem that because it is Tenyo it will be revealed, which I think is not necessarly true. And about Tenyo being distributed at such a high level, well it is not available at your local toy shop - it is as easy (or hard) available as Extreme Burn is, at a magic shop (except for the Japanese market of course where it is for sale at toy shops).
We all have to live with the fact almost EVERY trick that is for sale somewhere will be revealed at some point, often sooner than one might think.

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On 2013-11-09 05:48, Powermagic wrote:
I am one hoping the gimmick is more limited than the video shows.
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I don't understand you, why would it have to be more or equal to what the video shows? ANd no, it is certainly not more limited than what the video shows.
It's actually one of the best bill changes there is as far as I know, and with Tenyo's litle improvement extremely easy to do.
Message: Posted by: pierredan (Nov 9, 2013 08:21AM)
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On 2013-11-09 05:48, Powermagic wrote:
Tenyo is distributed at such a high level that I am sure some are concerned for that reason.

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Maybe in Japan. In Canada, the city I live in has no magic store and a lot of the existing magic stores are closing, the internet is the only place I can find Tenyo.

There are over 30 members at my IBM ring and I keep introducing them to new Tenyo items as they all dismissed these as toys.

I think there are far fewer people, outside Japan, who buy Tenyo than you think.
Message: Posted by: stereo (Nov 9, 2013 09:06AM)
I think lay people just want to be amazed and they don't go on internet after to find video or expose. You spectators don't know anything about Tenyo, don't know anything about magic in general, and they'll never buy any magic trick in all their life. But maybe I'm wrong.
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (Nov 11, 2013 07:29PM)
In todays world the internet is your toy store. Tenyo is easy to get and give as gifts.

On another note I guess ou have never seen a kid with a change bag or Rocco Delite come up to you or say they have a set of rings.
I also guess you never had some teens watch your Rubberband magic and say "I learned that on the net"
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Nov 12, 2013 01:43AM)
Actually, and I can only speak for Belgium, as a teacher I sometimes perform Magic Tricks and the Linking Rings are included in every magic set there is in toystores, and sometimes a changebag too (the Melissa and Doug magic set available in the USA also has one I believe). And one time a student performed Cray Man's Handkuffs for me and he did a fine job :)

Tenyo's are NOT as famous as you think, on the contrary. A Professor's Nightmare routine, linking rings, invisible decks and so on ar much more known then Tenyo's 4D Surprise, Card Surgery etc. ... .

There are some 'toy-hobby stores' that sell a few magic tricks or magic sets along with their puzzle-things, non Tenyo however!

Again, it seems you think Tenyo is just a toy available everywhere, well Tenyo is as easy or hard to get as any other magic trick, so I really don't see a problem :) Never, and I mean NEVER had I had a student, family member or friend ask me or tell me something about 'Tenyo', they do NOT know it! But perhaps the situation is different in the USA.
Message: Posted by: Izzy Jay (Nov 12, 2013 06:15AM)
I may be wrong, but I would say it's the same here in the USA. I have yet to find an audience member that knows anything about Tenyo and their line of magic.
Message: Posted by: NashvilleNewman (Nov 12, 2013 08:45AM)
Richard sent out a video of a person discovering the secret of MRI a while ago. And I have to say his reaction is spot on. MRI is CLASSIC Tenyo. I wish all of their effects these days would have this level of cool.

On 2013-11-05 22:43, Dr. Eamon wrote:
Does anyone know if MRI is examinable?
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I received it today, and I would say yes.
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Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Nov 14, 2013 10:55AM)
"Magical MRI" is examinable only in the sense that if you are very casual at the end of the trick, you can drop everything on the table for a few moments. But you don't want people picking up the black frame and peeking inside it carefully, or picking at it to see if anything moves. All of your presentation should be directed toward the impossibility of seeing through the metal plate--YOU control what they want to look at.

As far as the public's knowledge of Tenyo, it's non-existant. And if you know how to handle a set of Linking Rings, laymen are mystified because they're certain the set you're using doesn't have a gap in a ring like the sets they've seen as kids. This has been proven thousands of times. If it was wasn't true, no one would do the Linking Rings.