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Topic: Colin Mcleod LIVE: Sunday March 31st, @7:00pm Eastern (Penguin LIVE)
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (Mar 29, 2013 12:29PM)
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This Sunday!

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/3360


"There's a very short list of creators/performers in the magic community that I will sit up and pay close attention to when they speak. Sometimes they speak through their commercial releases and if I'm lucky enough to be their friends, I get to hear from them directly! Colin Mcleod is at the top of that list. If you get the chance to hear, see or read anything from Colin you WILL walk away with a fresh innovative perspective. I guarantee it."

-Bill Abbott

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Message: Posted by: Acar (Mar 31, 2013 05:23PM)
Colin McLeod is live starting in about 30 minutes!

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/3360

"He is the next Derren Brown." -Neal Scryer
"How the bloody hell did you do that?" -Simon Cowell
"Colin McLeod IS the future of mentalism." -Ken Weber
"You WILL walk away with a fresh innovative perspective. I guarantee it." -Bill Abbott
"One of the most brilliant and creative thinkers in mentalism alive today." -Marc Salem
Message: Posted by: Prager (Mar 31, 2013 05:30PM)
See you there!

:)
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (Mar 31, 2013 05:50PM)
2 minutes to go. This should be one of the big ones!
Message: Posted by: Acar (Mar 31, 2013 06:05PM)
Hah! the opener was brilliant!
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (Mar 31, 2013 06:06PM)
The opener blew me away. And this guy is FUNNY!
Message: Posted by: Magic.Maddy (Mar 31, 2013 09:30PM)
Any info on this?
Message: Posted by: MovieMan (Mar 31, 2013 10:00PM)
What a terrific lecture! Just over now after nearly 4 hours. Packed with powerful stuff and great thinking--definitely one to watch a few times.

Highly recommended if you're into mentalism.

Oh, and I think Patrick Redford did a terrific job as "guest host". :)
Message: Posted by: MovieMan (Mar 31, 2013 10:03PM)
Sorry, double post.
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (Mar 31, 2013 11:42PM)
Colin makes it look only he's got the "gift"! What an engaging, fantastic performer!

It's ready for re-watching!
Message: Posted by: lemonjug (Apr 1, 2013 03:38PM)
Hi,

could anyone say what percentage of the material was close-up?

cheers,

Ray
Message: Posted by: parmenion (Apr 1, 2013 05:46PM)
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On 2013-04-01 16:38, lemonjug wrote:
Hi,

could anyone say what percentage of the material was close-up?

cheers,

Ray
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Almost 0%
Message: Posted by: Stevie Tricker (Apr 1, 2013 06:20PM)
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On 2013-04-01 18:46, parmenion wrote:
[quote]
On 2013-04-01 16:38, lemonjug wrote:
Hi,

could anyone say what percentage of the material was close-up?

cheers,

Ray
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Almost 0%
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Almost zero seems like a bit of a blunt answer.

Lemonjug, If your looking to this lecture for close up material in terms of actual routines / effects then you may be disappointed or miss the points, he covers plenty of material and I can see at least a couple of effects that would work close up but for me the real gold here was Colins insight in terms of presentation, audience management, structuring etc all of which could be used to improve and enhance your close up.

A variation of the opener will be going straight into my repertoire, the only reason that I didn't fill an envelope with with pins and try it out in the office today was that I was fairly hung over and would probably have screwed it up.
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (Apr 1, 2013 06:25PM)
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...for me the real gold here was Colins insight in terms of presentation, audience management, structuring etc all of which could be used to improve and enhance your close up.
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Agreed!

Colin's scripting ( SOOOOO important ) and structuring was gold. I've re-watched it twice and have learned so much.
Message: Posted by: MovieMan (Apr 1, 2013 06:35PM)
I'll need to watch it again to refresh my memory, but I think much of the card stuff could work close up.

Agree that the real gold is Colin's thoughts on presentation, structuring, developing effects, hairstyling ;), etc. You'll still get a lot of this lecture even if you only do close-up.
Message: Posted by: lemonjug (Apr 2, 2013 07:31PM)
Thanks for your help, guys.
Message: Posted by: bahamagician (Apr 5, 2013 01:21PM)
I have to say that this lecture was absolutely incredible. This was the first magic puchase I've made in months and I was not let down. It's obvious that Colin actually performs this stuff in the real world. This was perhaps the first Penguin lecture that had my full attention for the entire four hours.

I perform a LOT of shows and have had my act pretty much set for a while but now after watching Colin's lecture, I've been forced to consider making some changes just so that I can include some of these routines (or versions of them) into my act.

Thanks for a great lecture Colin.

-=Chris
Message: Posted by: rasmus (Apr 6, 2013 04:26AM)
This Lecture was Awesome!!!

Get it if you missed it. It's worth every single Cent.

Definetly one of the Best Lectures I've ever seen!!!
Message: Posted by: rasmus (Apr 6, 2013 04:28AM)
This Lecture was Awesome!!!

Get it if you missed it. It's worth every single Cent.

Definetly one of the Best Lectures I've ever seen!!!
Message: Posted by: Olympic Adam (Apr 6, 2013 06:01AM)
You can do almost anything close up, you could work almost anything to be close up,

it's maybe easier to say there are definitely 3 or 4 things that cannot be done close up at all
Message: Posted by: Dr. Eamon (Apr 11, 2013 06:43PM)
I still didn't have the time to watch...
Message: Posted by: Dr. Eamon (Apr 11, 2013 08:29PM)
Is it 2 hours or nearly four?
Message: Posted by: MovieMan (Apr 11, 2013 08:45PM)
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On 2013-04-11 21:29, Dr. Eamon wrote:
Is it 2 hours or nearly four?
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3 hours and 56 minutes! (This does include the interview at the end.)
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (Apr 11, 2013 08:49PM)
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On 2013-04-11 21:29, Dr. Eamon wrote:
Is it 2 hours or nearly four?
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236 minutes long.
Message: Posted by: Dr. Eamon (Apr 12, 2013 10:22PM)
Thanks Movieman and Zombie Magic, that's great!
Message: Posted by: MovieMan (Apr 12, 2013 11:48PM)
I'm watching this again, and just want to reiterate there is so much great teaching and terrific ideas discussed in this lecture, it really is a gold mine of good stuff.

The discussion of Colin's "Penn & Teller-Fool Us" prediction reveal and the potential to use the UCCU (thanks, Patrick for suggesting that!) as a tool to accomplish it is just one example of a gold nugget. :)
Message: Posted by: Olympic Adam (May 23, 2013 04:17PM)
I watched this again recently and posted my thoughts at my blog.

Powerful stuff
Message: Posted by: baobow (May 23, 2013 07:40PM)
I don't wanna expose anything on method regarding Collins book test, but for me the additional of having spectators predicting the thought of word weakens the original effect rather than strengthen it IMHO. Doesn't it kinda put a solution in all of the spectators mind that the word chosen is an obvious choice because everyone was thinking of it? To me, it would be like asking a woman to think of a card and all the women in the audience think of the 'queen of hearts'. Nice effect, and you could ham it up, but the conclusion to a lot of ppl would be that 'sure, everyone thinks of the queen of hearts' or in this case everyone must think of 'house'. ( I won't say anymore on method here, but hopefully I have conveyed enough to ppl who have seen the lecture). I'm not knocking the method or effect, I think it's great, but I will use the original published method from the dvds.
Message: Posted by: pollysukemaru (Jun 12, 2013 08:33PM)
Does the online lecture include his newspaper test routine which is in his opening mind dvd?
Message: Posted by: MovieMan (Jun 12, 2013 09:22PM)
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On 2013-06-12 21:33, pollysukemaru wrote:
Does the online lecture include his newspaper test routine which is in his opening mind dvd?
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No, that routine's not included in his Penguin Live lecture.
Message: Posted by: Lar (Jun 12, 2013 10:31PM)
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On 2013-05-23 20:40, baobow wrote:
I don't wanna expose anything on method regarding Collins book test, but for me the additional of having spectators predicting the thought of word weakens the original effect rather than strengthen it IMHO. Doesn't it kinda put a solution in all of the spectators mind that the word chosen is an obvious choice because everyone was thinking of it? To me, it would be like asking a woman to think of a card and all the women in the audience think of the 'queen of hearts'. Nice effect, and you could ham it up, but the conclusion to a lot of ppl would be that 'sure, everyone thinks of the queen of hearts' or in this case everyone must think of 'house'. ( I won't say anymore on method here, but hopefully I have conveyed enough to ppl who have seen the lecture). I'm not knocking the method or effect, I think it's great, but I will use the original published method from the dvds.
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Good point baobow but I don't think you need to worry. I think Colin covered that concern quite effectively in the modified handling and dialogue for BT.

The assistant isn't simply asked to, "think of a word", it's a bit more subtle than that.

The assistant is FIRST asked to first "see a few words" in their mind and then, "get a few words locked in [their] mind". From the perspective of the audience at this point in the effect the assistant is NOT thinking of a single word, they are thinking of a 'few words'. What those words are only they know.

Colin puts the 'imaginary book' back on the shelf and then backs away a little putting a bit of distance between himself and the assistant.

He asks the assistant to "switch between the words they are thinking of". This creates the impression that the assistant is making a 'conscious' choice of some sort rather than an 'off the cuff' or 'spur of the moment' choice. Eventually Colin asks the assistant is to settle on 'one word'.

To the watching audience the assistant's 'choice' of word is made some time AFTER the 'imaginary book' business. The assistant has been asked to think of 'a few words' before eventually 'settling' one word. Their final 'choice' happens whilst Colin is nowhere near them.

For those reasons I've never had the sense that the audience think that I'm just playing the odds in someway or thinking, 'well everyone thinks of [whatever]'.

I like BT a lot and if you're a fan of BT I recommend Colin's work on BT in 'Facade'.

For me, I've found that being able to bring the prediction into play BEFORE the assistant actually reveals their thought of word plays stronger than doing it the other way around as it was in the original BT.

With the prediction in play and known to the audience (but not to the assistant) the audience wait with baited breath (as do you) to hear what word the assistant is actually thinking of. You're fully committed to the outcome before the thought of word is even uttered.

First you get the reaction from the audience when they hear the assistant say the word that they see written on your prediction.

Second you get the reaction from the assistant themselves (and the audience's reaction to their reaction) when you show them that your prediction matches the word they were merely thinking of.

Regards,

Laurence.
Message: Posted by: parmenion (Jun 13, 2013 03:43AM)
It's not stronger, it's different.
Message: Posted by: Sparda (Nov 25, 2013 05:58PM)
Do you have to buy a lot of material in order to do the effects in this lecture? One of the reviews on penguin said it would cost $400 to get all the necessary materials...
Message: Posted by: RSchlutz (Nov 25, 2013 06:19PM)
He does one effect trust has an expensive prop but he teaches soooooo much awesome material that doesn't rely on buying something extra. And little things I already had like certain cards but I am sure most magicians would have as well. Definitely one my my favorite penguin lectures I seen so far.

Ryan
Message: Posted by: Sparda (Nov 25, 2013 06:53PM)
Thanks! Guess I'll be getting this!
Message: Posted by: Daren (Dec 5, 2013 01:01PM)
Does anyone have a list of effects he performs and explains?
Message: Posted by: bond19 (Dec 6, 2013 05:37AM)
Daren,

It's Colin McLeod so you know you won't be disappointed. I know there is some cross over material, but there's some other brilliant material throughout. The billet s****h and the routine he teaches with it is excellent.
Message: Posted by: Daren (Dec 6, 2013 05:42AM)
Ok cheers, think I will take the plunge with this, he is incredible!