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Topic: All Quiet in OZ
Message: Posted by: hkwiles (Nov 23, 2003 07:16AM)
There seems to an unprecedented "silence" regarding the Aussies sporting excellence..following the events of Yesterday!!

Howard
Message: Posted by: magicjosh2 (Nov 23, 2003 07:22AM)
Swing Low Sweet Chariot.
What a wonderful performance from the boys.
:rotf:
Message: Posted by: Welshwizard (Nov 23, 2003 07:37AM)
I was secretly rooting for the Aussies. Flaiming Pommes!
Message: Posted by: hkwiles (Nov 23, 2003 07:41AM)
Yeah, but the Kangaroos did keep the Rugby League Cup after winning all THREE Games!! and after all though not as popular, That really is The Man's Game.

Howard
Message: Posted by: Caleb Strange (Nov 23, 2003 10:34AM)
It was my birthday yesterday, and so foregoing my annual lie-in to watch England deservedly win was a marvellous present.

I know the pom-bashing build-up was a bit much (no worse, though, than the rubbish in some of OUR papers before important football matches against Germany), I applaud the Aussies for the gracious way they accepted defeat - the stadium remained full for the presentation of the trophy.

Yeah, it's tempting to gloat, but I guess now that we've actually won something, we should endeavour to be good winners. I'm sure it'll come with practice :).

Regards,

Caleb Strange.

P.S. Why is it that our Association footballers can't kick with both feet?
Message: Posted by: hkwiles (Nov 23, 2003 11:53AM)
As you say Caleb..100,000 a week and comments such as .." the ball came to him on his wrong foot" or "he is a left-sided player". Such ineptitude and they train every day.
Mind you Caleb..I'd settle now for any of our players (LUFC)to be able to kick with any foot!!

I think I'll have to admit "Vans yer Man"

cheers
Howard
Message: Posted by: ChrisZampese (Nov 23, 2003 01:45PM)
Yeah, its been quiet here in NZ for about a wee while now!

Sad to see the Cup leave the Southern Hemisphere! Hasnt happened for a while (Never I think would be more accurate!?)

Congratulations to the English, well played!
Message: Posted by: Chris Boyd (Nov 23, 2003 09:49PM)
Ok, I give up...Which teams in which league or tournament are you talking about?
Message: Posted by: Al Kazam the Magic Man (Nov 24, 2003 05:33AM)
As an aussie who watched it live here in Taiwan, I must say it was a great game. It could have gone either way right to the end. I also thought the Aussies were gracious in defeat, which is a good thing. Jonny Wilkinson is a super player that's for sure.
I guess you have to give the Poms a bit of a hold at the trophies for a while or they'll be wingeing for ever! HA! Just kidding!
JoJo
Message: Posted by: Chris Boyd (Nov 24, 2003 08:08AM)
Never mind, I found it...you can tell Rugby isn't one of the [url=http://www.utrecsports.org/home/pages/intramurals/schedule.php?sid=103]sports we play in Texas[/url].
Message: Posted by: magician81 (Nov 24, 2003 10:46AM)
The english was much better, frankly speaking. they could have finish off the aussies by 80 minutes, but they dig themselves a big hole to cover up by constantly making handling errors, n giving away stupid penalties. but I must said that d aussies really fought till d last moment, kudos 2 d aussies.

but I guess with someone like Jonny Wilkinson in yout team, you do really have 2 fancy your chance right?
Message: Posted by: Al Kazam the Magic Man (Nov 24, 2003 12:07PM)
You may be right on a couple of points, but the bottome line is it's a team sport with 15 players each. It takes a team to win big games.
As for the English being able to finish them off in 80 minutes, well I think you don't have a good grasp of the game there my friend. You even mention the very reasons why they couldn't finish them off in 80 minutes. Anyway the English won in the end, but by a team effort.
JoJo
Message: Posted by: magicjosh2 (Nov 24, 2003 01:47PM)
Nice to see the Australian press making up for last weeks comments.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_841056.html

An editorial addressed to England fans said: "Regarding your magnificent football team's 20-17 triumph in the Rugby World Cup final on November 22, on behalf of all Australians, we would like to admit the following:

"You were not too old (although we hoped you would be when the game went to extra-time). You were not too slow. You scored as many tries as we did. You kicked no more penalty goals than we did. You ran the ball as much as we did. You entertained as much as we did.

"You did it with one of your own as coach (even though he did spend some formative years playing at Manly). You are better singers than we are (and just quietly, Swing Low, Sweet Chariot is growing on us, as is Jonny without an "h").

"You played with class, toughness and grace. You were bloody superior. You are, for the first time in 37 years, winners of a football World Cup. As a result, we believe Twickenham is a most fitting home for Bill (the cup), though we humbly remind you that, unlike the Ashes, you have to hand it over if you don't win next time.

"We will no longer characterise your fans as beer-swilling, pot-bellied louts or knife-wielding hooligans and try to remember the sporting and enthusiastic supporters who did so much to make the final memorable."

Sydney's Daily Telegraph, which printed a voodoo doll of Jonny Wilkinson and issued 'Stop Jonny' T-shirts, also apologised. An editorial said: "Jonny is unstoppable. To ignore his greatness would be unconscionable."
Message: Posted by: magician81 (Nov 24, 2003 09:43PM)
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On 2003-11-24 13:07, JoJo wrote:
You may be right on a couple of points, but the bottome line is it's a team sport with 15 players each. It takes a team to win big games.
As for the English being able to finish them off in 80 minutes, well I think you don't have a good grasp of the game there my friend. You even mention the very reasons why they couldn't finish them off in 80 minutes. Anyway the English won in the end, but by a team effort.
JoJo
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in this case, my words n views are being twisted n slapped around, cos I said something that is open to attacks from front n back....hahaha..... each has its own views, it will be foolish for 2 grown men to argue over something which was history.

yujie
Message: Posted by: Al Kazam the Magic Man (Nov 25, 2003 01:02AM)
I agree with you about the 2 grown men part. Mai yo wen ti! Swan Le! I live in Taiwan and speak Mandarin, do you? If so let me know.
Hsieh Hsieh,
JoJo
Message: Posted by: magician81 (Nov 25, 2003 02:23AM)
Hahaha.......yup.....i'm a chinese.......
Message: Posted by: Al Kazam the Magic Man (Nov 27, 2003 06:03AM)
Hi there Magical,
Hey do you perform in Chinese or English? I perform mostly in Chinese (Mandarin) with only a little English. What kind of magic do you perform? I mainly do family style of platform magic. As a family we also do clowning, with juggling, and unicycle stuff.
JoJo
Message: Posted by: jonesc2ii (Nov 27, 2003 06:15AM)
Did we win?

Just kidding! OK, it's all very nice and everything but it's not much of a world cup that has only eight teams who are any good and four of them are British!

Well done to the team, they have achieved all they could, but do we have to have it on every news bulletin almost a week after the match? And did ITV need to show the whole match three or four times as well as highlights shows?

Over reacting? It couldn't happen here!

Now, can we get back to the real games of soccer and cricket? England might not be the best in the world, but at least I know what's going on. Even the players don't seem to know the rules of rugby.

:bg:
Message: Posted by: magician81 (Nov 27, 2003 06:56AM)
[quote]
On 2003-11-27 07:03, JoJo wrote:
Hi there Magical,
Hey do you perform in Chinese or English? I perform mostly in Chinese (Mandarin) with only a little English. What kind of magic do you perform? I mainly do family style of platform magic. As a family we also do clowning, with juggling, and unicycle stuff.
JoJo
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haha...just a hobbist starting out...performing for frends n family only....it takes time but I'm sure I will make it one day...still have much 2 learn from u...

cheers,
yujie
Message: Posted by: hkwiles (Nov 27, 2003 01:21PM)
Rugby Union... the only game where the crowd handle the ball more than the players!!.
How come, if the objective of the game is to score Tries, that most games at International level have nearly all the points scored by penalties..seems there must be some basic flaws in the rules.
why don't they:-
a) get rid of the two "flankers
b) do away with line outs
c) have a set number of tackles before giving the ball to the other side, or then kicking down field.

get my drift?

:rotf: :rotf:

Howard
Message: Posted by: ChrisZampese (Nov 27, 2003 01:41PM)
Hmmmm, sounds suspiciously like another sport Howard......

I think rugby is a great game (although I have played soccer all my life), and has become more of a 'spectator sport' in recent years, with teams seeming to place more emphasis on running the ball, rather tahn kicking or rolling mauls.

Like any game, if you have a team to support, anything can be exciting (just look at cricket!!)
Message: Posted by: hkwiles (Nov 27, 2003 03:48PM)
Chris,

...teams placing more emphasis on running the ball..

maybe in the Southern Hemisphere not here I'm afraid.
and yes you are correct... another "sport" where the ephasis is wholly on running the ball.

My team "Castleford" had one of your fellow countrymen
playing for them a few years back..Tawera Nikau (probably spelt incorrectly). He went back home after his wife committed suicide and earlier this year lost a leg in a car accident.

cheers
Howard
Message: Posted by: ChrisZampese (Nov 27, 2003 06:43PM)
Howard,

Good point about the hemispheres! I think it may have something to do with the fact that we no longer havea decent kicker on our team!
The All Blacks used to be famous for their kicking game, and pushing the ball over the line....pretty boring to watch, but effective.

Of course Rugby was always one of the most manly sports on the planet! Its got a bit softer more recently, but some of our great heores from yesteryear were know to play with some fairly gruesome injuries...Torn testicles, broken arms, broken ribs etc.

Tawera Nikau was a great player, and he is now involved with some youth programs etc. Very insiprational considering his recent misfortunes.
Message: Posted by: Caleb Strange (Nov 28, 2003 02:25PM)
Speaking of playing on with an injury, Bert Trautman, the former Manchester City goalkeeper, once played (and won) an FA Cup Final, having broken his NECK in the first half of the game.

Regards,

Caleb Strange.
Message: Posted by: hkwiles (Nov 28, 2003 03:19PM)
The sad thing about that Caleb is...I remember seeing it on TV..the days when you had to draw the curtains to see the 12" screen. Ahhh! those were the days ..charging the keeper...tackling from behind...passing back to the keeper...muddy pitches...

Howard...potential Division 1 supporter!!