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Topic: Ryan Schlutz: Miracles Without Moves
Message: Posted by: smullins (Aug 5, 2013 01:32PM)
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Eschewing technical knucklebusting moves for ingenious trickery, routining and plain old sneaky clever thinking Ryan Schlutz unleashes tricks that will utterly floor your audience yet are simple and fun to perform.

And these are not your run of the mill sleight-lite routines. No painful counting sequences, yawn inducing spelling or hard-to-master linguistic gymnastics. These are multi layered, supremely FOOLING smashers.

'Creating ONE trick that smashes an audience's mind without resorting to sleights is a challenge. How the hell Ryan Schlutz came up with SEVEN is totally beyond me. I had no idea how he did ANY of it!!!' Cameron Francis

"The last time I was this fooled by card magic, I was 10. Ryan made me feel like a child again.' James Went

'On this DVD you will see Ryan demonstrate powerful working material that is seriously fooling. Great construction and use of subtlety rather than heavy sleights gives you a powerful collection of material to add to your repertoire'. John Carey

'Ryan fooled me time and time again with the material from this DVD. The fact that most of it is almost self working is astonishing! This is surely set to become a modern classic!' Iain Moran

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Ryan is a heck of a guy and REALLY smart. I've had the opportunity to speak with him and his mind is an encyclopedia of card principles. The best part? He strings those principles together to create magic that's just impossible to back track. Check out anything he releases, you'll always find a nice gem in his material!

Owen and the guys over at BMM just keep producing awesomeness over there. Keep it up!

Here is the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGAiLNxI7ms
Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (Aug 5, 2013 02:06PM)
I've known Ryan for years now. Every time he shows me a new trick, the first thing I say is, "Yeah, I have no idea." Really. This stuff will fool almost any magician not to mention lay people.
Message: Posted by: smullins (Aug 5, 2013 02:17PM)
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On 2013-08-05 15:06, Cameron Francis wrote:
I've known Ryan for years now. Every time he shows me a new trick, the first thing I say is, "Yeah, I have no idea." Really. This stuff will fool almost any magician not to mention lay people.
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Can't agree more Cameron... When I see something new from Ryan my head explodes haha
Message: Posted by: John C (Aug 5, 2013 03:02PM)
Looks good. right my old ally.

J
Message: Posted by: RSchlutz (Aug 6, 2013 08:07AM)
Thanks guys! I am very excited about this DVD. These are my favorite effects....very simple to do but pack a punch!

Ryan
Message: Posted by: papawemba (Aug 6, 2013 10:23AM)
Sound great, can't wait :)
Of the seven tricks, how many are impromptu ?
Message: Posted by: brehaut (Aug 6, 2013 10:37AM)
I will get this. Ryan doesn't know me but when I had a question about a previous book I got he took the time to video himself and texted me the move. Super nice AND super talented
Message: Posted by: RNK (Aug 6, 2013 10:45AM)
Wow! Just watched the trailer and the one effect Ryan showed was very good. This looks intriguing. Reminds me of Liam's card work- minimal sleights but great magic!

RNK
Message: Posted by: samdan (Aug 6, 2013 10:53AM)
When is this coming out?
Message: Posted by: smullins (Aug 6, 2013 11:17AM)
http://myemail.constantcontact.com/Mind-blowing-card-magic-with-no-sleight-of-hand-.html?soid=1102157695486&aid=vQrvC2QvPiI

All the info is here PLUS an eBook deal with the preorder.
Message: Posted by: ash2arani (Aug 6, 2013 03:33PM)
This sounds very interesting, and with the ebook deal, a no-brainer for me. I already placed my order for the download. Now is the waiting game. Congrats Ryan on your new release.
Message: Posted by: smullins (Aug 6, 2013 08:16PM)
For those of you wondering on eBook content!!!! It's three sections and killer information.

-How to print on cards

This is basically info on how to print your own gaff cards. AWESOME stuff here and worth the whole darn price of the DVD. If you have a printer at home and some blank cards, you can rock and roll and make your own provided you can find a photo to print on the cards (of if you are talented with photoshop, I'm lazy and copy+paste). Example (not in book): Fairy tale frogs from John G with pictures of disney characters.

-When if Doubt Read a Palm

A sweet routine that works great as an opener. You make the gaff with the above method and BOOM you have a simple routine and a great "item" to talk about. Convo starter bonus points.

-A Lesson in Gravity

All I'm going to say is... this is one of my favorite things Ryan has ever shared. Again you make a nice gaff (you can draw it by hand EASILY too) and a card just seems to vanish and reappear. Very cool "sandwich" style routine.
Message: Posted by: RSchlutz (Aug 7, 2013 07:15AM)
Appreciate you taking the time to write that up Shaun.

Also thank you RNK, Brehaut & Ash for the support! I know you guys will love the material.

Ryan
Message: Posted by: rowdymagi5 (Aug 7, 2013 07:59AM)
This looks good. I will be placing an order.
Message: Posted by: RSchlutz (Aug 8, 2013 08:50AM)
Hey guys this officially comes out August 19th but it be available first at Magic Live. I will be at the BBM booth to demo the new effects. Also had a few PM's asking if the material is new. YES... 7 brand new never released effects.

Come by and say Hi!

Ryan
Message: Posted by: Casshan (Aug 8, 2013 09:05AM)
I absolutely love Ryans work and I'm so looking foward to this release! :)

Cash
Message: Posted by: Agaton (Aug 8, 2013 07:38PM)
I am a fan of Ryan's work ever since I saw Sense-ational. This is a must buy!
Message: Posted by: RSchlutz (Aug 8, 2013 09:26PM)
Thanks Agaton. New material should be up your alley since I used Sense-Sational type of thinking for them.

Ryan
Message: Posted by: magico (Aug 9, 2013 10:42AM)
Preordered mine thru Hocus Pocus as they were offering free shipping. Looking to see if Knocked Subconscious can be used as a replacement for one of the phases of Sense-Sational. I am working on it where a table is not needed.
Message: Posted by: SShawUK (Aug 16, 2013 01:44PM)
I was lucky enough to nab a copy of this early. You guys are going to love this. In short, think Ramon Rioboo subtle self-workers. No procedural junk at all! I cannot recommend this enough. If you want to see my full thoughts, then feel free to visit my blog at http://www.magicblog.org

Best Wishes,
Stephen
Message: Posted by: RSchlutz (Aug 16, 2013 08:14PM)
Dang Stephen now that was a detailed review! Thanks for taking the time.

I was having a ball demoing the new material at the BBM booth. Fun to see people faces when you say it involves no sleights.

Ryan
Message: Posted by: SShawUK (Aug 17, 2013 07:18AM)
I really enjoyed this DVD, so it was easy for me to write so much about it. For the price, I really cannot recommend this highly enough. It's nice to see material that is both fooling and simple to perform. Hats off to Ryan and the chaps at BBM, a great DVD!
Message: Posted by: ash2arani (Aug 19, 2013 05:14AM)
I got an email saying my order has shipped (even though I ordered a download). I am trying to find my download link. Anyone can help? Or is it yet to be available as a download?

I tried emailing Owen but no response yet.

And Stephen, great review, I am now even more excited :D
Message: Posted by: SShawUK (Aug 19, 2013 05:22AM)
Hi Ash2Arani,
I'm glad you enjoyed my review. I'm a real big fan of "principles", and enjoyed this DVD immensely. A few of Ryan's ideas have started to give me some great food for thought over the last few days! I've got a close-up competition for our local circle in September, and I think I'll be using something I've developed off the back of one of Ryan's effects!
Warmest Regards,
Stephen
Message: Posted by: Sean Giles (Aug 19, 2013 05:26AM)
The effect with the four of a kind is superb. I think it's called Fourshadowed?
Message: Posted by: ozman (Aug 19, 2013 07:18AM)
Folks. The download will be available from 9am USA time today. So it will be live any second now.
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Aug 19, 2013 08:10AM)
Can't seem to access mine via my account...and I'm in the uk...
Message: Posted by: Martin.Lester (Aug 19, 2013 09:53AM)
I Picked this up at Magic Live and was one of the best DVD's I picked up at the Show

Highly Recommended
Message: Posted by: Mercury52 (Aug 19, 2013 11:32AM)
I picked this up from Ryan at Magic Live as well. While I haven't had a chance to sit down and watch it yet, Ryan did perform 2 of the effects for me in the dealer room and fooled me with both! Very fair and clean routines. Looking forward to watching the whole thing and posting my thoughts!

Kevin
Message: Posted by: SebastianGER-HH (Aug 19, 2013 12:07PM)
Can anyone already access the download from BBM? Or is it only me who canīt find it :)
Message: Posted by: SebastianGER-HH (Aug 19, 2013 12:21PM)
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On 2013-08-19 13:07, SebastianGER-HH wrote:
Can anyone already access the download from BBM? Or is it only me who canīt find it :)
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Just received the link via e-mail the minute I wrote my comment - so all fine now!
Message: Posted by: paperinick (Aug 19, 2013 01:33PM)
[quote] 9am USA time today[/quote]
just sayin' that such a thing as USA time doesn't exist. :)
Message: Posted by: BatsMagic (Aug 19, 2013 02:07PM)
Eastern Time.

That is USA time as far as I'm concerned!

:bat:
Message: Posted by: ozman (Aug 19, 2013 11:19PM)
Hey - another AWESOME review for this DVD just went up at Bicycle-Cards.co.uk - if you want to know a little more about the project, have a read... http://www.bicycle-cards.co.uk/2013/08/15/ryan-schlutz-miracles-without-moves-review/
Message: Posted by: magicphill (Aug 21, 2013 12:59PM)
Watched this last night and there's some nice thinking in here

Most of the effects I started watching and thinking I know what's going on here only to have your initial thoughts pulled away from under you as the trick progresses. I don't think anything here is new or groundbreaking however when combined together and utilising under used principles I can see how they can fool and certainly had me stumped.

Definately recommended especially for the think a card effect and 1492
Message: Posted by: RSchlutz (Aug 21, 2013 02:21PM)
Thank you MagicPhill. I think you said it perfectly I love taking old concepts and repurposing them. It is so much fun to see how far you can push an idea. And the beatiful part about 1492 is that it is so hands off and seems impossible to have any control.

Ryan
Message: Posted by: Agaton (Aug 22, 2013 08:31PM)
Like what I previously mentioned, I am a fan of Ryan's work and had all of his downloads (including this and the Move Monkey episode in Reel magic). After watching this I could honestly say that I would remain as a fan. Did I got fooled by the effects? Oh yeah. Are the principles new? No. Nothing that I haven't seen before but it was cleverly hidden...either with the procedure or it's within another known principle. Again, it's devilishly clever.

The biggest question would be, are there setups being made (since a lot of SWEs are somewhat has a setup)? It's a mix. Without giving much away, there are some setup that can be done once before you step out of the house and it's done. It doesn't even have to be the first trick but you can go to it on a later time. Some has an obvious pre-trick setup like Simon Aronson's famous trick, but it only requires minimal amount of cards.

Overall, I would recommend this to those who are into these type of material. I would see myself doing more tricks here than what I learned in Rioboo's book due to practicality and ease of use.
Message: Posted by: olaf911 (Aug 23, 2013 02:02AM)
Hmmm...

Seems to me I am the only one who definetly is NOT satisfied with what he got. Here is why:

1.
I purchased the download version. This comes NOT as a DVD (ISO image, which could be burned to DVD), but as a Quicktime movie (MOV). This means you have no menu to select chapters (i. e. single tricks), but you have to find them by scrolling through the movie. This made me grumble, but ok, the ads not always say what you really get. Such is life. On a side note: There is a nice thread in the MC about "Inexplicable" by Steve Shufton, where you can see where this can lead to. :)

2.
The video is personalized in a non acceptable way (for me at least). In the upper left corner of the video my name is constantly visible. This in itself is not the problem, but the size of this "copy protection" is. It should habe been half or a third of its size to be tolerable. Since the video is shot against a dark background, I find this really annoying.

3.
This now is my main problem with this "DVD". I consider myself as an above average English speaker, but the video often makes it really hard for me to follow the explanation. This may not be of concern for English native speakers - which I am not. Other non-English potential buyers be aware: This is no fun to watch and hear. I very much love the clear and quite slowly spoken explanations of a Richard Sanders. The sometimes giddy way of teaching of a Jay Sankey is no problem. I can follow Gary Jones in his lecture in front of some British magic circle without any problems. But here you have the conversation of two English speaker talking to each other, not to the one who paid the money for the explanation. For me the spoken explanations are too fast and slurry. But this may be only me. Find out for yourself.

This does not mean the material on this "DVD" is of minor quality. If you are well capable of speaking (and hearing!) the English language, you probably will enjoy the video.

For me I will bury the file in the darkest corner of my harddisk, shuffle some bits and bytes onto it and stick a cross on top. ;)
Message: Posted by: Agaton (Aug 23, 2013 06:16AM)
The copy protection isn't new though. Vanishing Inc has this from the beginning. I had issues downloading some before using a download manager (I had intermitent connection issues back then) due to the nature of the file being converted for the watermark. Andy was supportive nevertheless. I had no issues with this one, so I have no complaints.
Message: Posted by: Iain Moran (Aug 23, 2013 09:07AM)
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On 2013-08-23 03:02, olaf911 wrote:
I purchased the download version. This comes NOT as a DVD (ISO image, which could be burned to DVD),
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I've purchased a LOT of downloads from various magic companies over the years and none of them have been an ISO image! This is probably due to the very large file size (average 4GB) of ISO files. This is the first time I've ever seen someone complain that they've not been able to download a ISO image of their download. I actually don't know of any company who offer ISO files for download!

I find it odd you spent so much time moaning about the format (and security) of the download that you glossed over the actual material. What did you think of the effects??

All I've learnt from your "review" is that you obviously have very little experience of purchasing downloads!

Iain.
Message: Posted by: olaf911 (Aug 23, 2013 10:25AM)
[quote]
On 2013-08-23 10:07, Iain Moran wrote:
I've purchased a LOT of downloads from various magic companies over the years and none of them have been an ISO image! This is probably due to the very large file size (average 4GB) of ISO files. This is the first time I've ever seen someone complain that they've not been able to download a ISO image of their download. I actually don't know of any company who offer ISO files for download!

I find it odd you spent so much time moaning about the format (and security) of the download that you glossed over the actual material. What did you think of the effects??

All I've learnt from your "review" is that you obviously have very little experience of purchasing downloads!

Iain.
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I actually downloaded quite a few videos in the past. And you know what? None of them has been an ISO image - but I keep hoping. ;)
From a professional point of view (i. e. mine) it is absolutely no problem to offer DVDs as ISOs. It is a matter of bandwidth only, but at least in Germany this is no problem at all. Anyway, this was not my main concern, as you can see when you reread my posting. I only find it worth mentioning.
Same goes for the question of the copyright protection. I never mentioned security. Whether the download is encrypted or not does not concern me the least.
I explicitly do not want to review the quality of the tricks. This I'd like to leave to real experts. What I am complaining about is the quality of the explanations. Even if you choose to disagree. :cool:
Message: Posted by: olaf911 (Aug 23, 2013 10:45AM)
[quote]
On 2013-08-23 10:07, Iain Moran wrote:
I've purchased a LOT of downloads from various magic companies over the years and none of them have been an ISO image! This is probably due to the very large file size (average 4GB) of ISO files. This is the first time I've ever seen someone complain that they've not been able to download a ISO image of their download. I actually don't know of any company who offer ISO files for download!

I find it odd you spent so much time moaning about the format (and security) of the download that you glossed over the actual material. What did you think of the effects??

All I've learnt from your "review" is that you obviously have very little experience of purchasing downloads!

Iain.
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I actually downloaded quite a few videos in the past. And you know what? None of them has been an ISO image - but I keep hoping. ;)
From a professional point of view (i. e. mine) it is absolutely no problem to offer DVDs as ISOs. It is a matter of bandwidth only, but at least in Germany this is no problem at all. Anyway, this was not my main concern, as you can see when you reread my posting. I only find it worth mentioning.
Same goes for the question of the copyright protection. I never mentioned security. Whether the download is encrypted or not does not concern me the least.
I explicitly do not want to review the quality of the tricks. This I'd like to leave to real experts. What I am complaining about is the quality of the explanations. Even if you choose to disagree. :cool:
Message: Posted by: RSchlutz (Aug 23, 2013 06:06PM)
Agaton!

Thanks man! Happy I still made your cut. :)

Hope you get use out of the routines and entertain others!

Ryan
Message: Posted by: ozman (Aug 25, 2013 04:38AM)
Hi folks

ryan schlutz is this weeks (25-31 aug) GUEST OF HONOUR on the Café - so if you have questions for him, jump over to the section and post 'em! it's a great chance to pick his brains on all things magic related. :)
Message: Posted by: magik1 (Aug 25, 2013 07:56AM)
This will be back in stock tomorrow at http://www.warpedmagic.co.uk/collections/new-products/products/miracles-without-moves-by-ryan-schlutz-and-big-blind-media-dvd

Magik1
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Aug 27, 2013 12:05PM)
This looks really good! A couple questions:

1. Are there any effects here without gaffed cards?
2. Are there any effects here that can be done impromptu with a borrowed deck?

Thx,
KJ
Message: Posted by: RSchlutz (Aug 27, 2013 12:17PM)
KJ-

All 7 tricks use a regular deck. Now a couple routines need a one time work to your regular deck but it is only one time and a couple are 100% borrowed shuffle deck and lastly a couple would require a small set up a a few cards that would be very easy to get into on the fly.

Ryan
Message: Posted by: papawemba (Aug 28, 2013 06:48AM)
So 4 tricks can be done impromptu, mmm this is getting interesting :)
By the way, I love your "Pivotal peek", what a tool !!
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Sep 3, 2013 01:36AM)
These effects look terrific ! Congrats Ryan ;)
Message: Posted by: RSchlutz (Sep 3, 2013 08:57PM)
Hey guys just wanted to let you know Vlad posted a detailed review that might clear up
some questions if there were any.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=524134&forum=111&4

Ryan
Message: Posted by: smullins (Sep 4, 2013 05:46PM)
I got to say, I REALLY like the shuffled/ borrowed deck routines on here... You should always have a routine ready to go when you need it and something like "Methodical" is perfect for that. Heck, setting up Ryan's version of Shuffle Board takes about 2 seconds and it's DEVIOUS.

It's been said a lot in here and other sections of the forums but Knocked Subconscious is also insanely good. You can gimmick the deck, use the deck (or just leave it set up) and set it up whenever your ready. ALSO, depending on the audience you can switch gears and do something totally different as well (I can think of two or three routines that use a similar set up minus the gimmick BUT the gimmick doesn't get in the way of those routines)... If you even just add the principle at work here... You'll have a ton of fun.

There is a ton of great thinking within this DVD and a lot I'm going to apply to my own work.

Think of doing a small borrowed deck set like:
It Cuts Deep
Methodical
Degree's of Board-dom (Keep the prediction in your wallet... if you need help PM me)

You have a SOLID set that can be done with a totally regular deck of cards on the spot (Set-up for Board-Dom and go into the other routines "checking to see if everything is there" and BOOM) What's the best part? It's sleightless, you can focus on presenting, allows you to play with the audience member(s) AND it's all really fooling material. By the end, they will think you can sense playing cards identity, read their pulse and predict their future before you met them.

On second thought... Don't think about doing that set... I want to be the only one doing it!
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Sep 5, 2013 01:19AM)
I just got through the video and I must say, this is one of the best card DVDs out! Really powerful and fun routines. Very powerful and easy card magic.

He uses a few methods that he says are really old. I imagine they must be old because I had never heard of them until now and I am familiar with a LOT of methods.

Not just one really good effect, but several are just fantastic!

KJ
Message: Posted by: TCB (Dec 23, 2013 07:52AM)
Does this now come in DVD or just download?
Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (Dec 23, 2013 08:43AM)
It's been out in the DVD format from the get go.
Message: Posted by: TCB (Dec 23, 2013 09:04AM)
OK Cool Cameron, I saw people saying they were having a hard time with their download in the beginning, so I thought maybe that's how you have to get it. I was wondering if I should start with ultimatate self working card tricks before I move into Miricles. I want some good tricks to use while I am working on my slights.
Message: Posted by: Terrible Wizard (Dec 23, 2013 09:52AM)
I don't have Ultimate Self Working DVD, but I do have .miracles without Moves. It is. Very good, but does require some simple knowledge of sleights for some of the tricks (nothing difficult, but not entirely self working). There is nothing onMiracles that a beginner couldn't pick up quite quickly, but if you wanted something completely without any moves then this isn't it. That said, let me say again: it's really, really good - and all are fairly simple (mechanically) to do.
Message: Posted by: TCB (Dec 23, 2013 10:04AM)
Thanks Terrible, I do have some skills so I guess this might be a good one for me. Everyone speaks highly of Ryan , and this DVD
Message: Posted by: TCB (Dec 23, 2013 10:05AM)
Thanks Terrible, I do have some skills so I guess this might be a good one for me. Everyone speaks highly of Ryan , and this DVD
Message: Posted by: insight (Dec 23, 2013 10:20AM)
No doubt, this is good. But to label it "Miracles without Moves" is a bit misleading. There are some "moves", thought not many. Maybe, "Miracles With Only Some Moves" but might have been an acceptable label.

Regards,
Mike
Message: Posted by: RSchlutz (Dec 23, 2013 03:16PM)
Thanks guys for the remarks. And thanks Terrible for clearing things up.

Insight: I was thinking the DVD should of been called Miracles with Minute moves because as you guys said why it was not completely moveless those on the DVDs were breaks , cutting type of moves and NOT DL's, control or false shuffles. But I suppose any action you do with a deck is consider a move right? :)

TCB: Thanks for the interest. I agree with what Terrible said. The "moves" on the DVD are very easy but some routines could be presentational demanding for someone very new to card magic. But the ultimate self working series are super simple as well and completely moveless.

Ryan
Message: Posted by: TCB (Jan 6, 2014 01:27PM)
I can do a really good two Card Monte which has some moves. Are those level of moves needed for these tricks
Message: Posted by: RSchlutz (Jan 6, 2014 01:32PM)
TCB: If you do two card monte I would consider that advance in comparison to MWM.

Ryan
Message: Posted by: sgtgrey (Jan 6, 2014 02:51PM)
I'm trying to think back to the effects, and as far as I can think - there are some "moves" but nothing like a real "sleight" I can remember. Sort of like a nonchalant cut of the deck after spreading the cards being considered a "move." If you can hold a break, spread cards, and deal cards, etc. you should be just fine. There's nothing in here a complete beginner should have problems with move-wise. It's more about being able to sell the presentation.

That said, this DVD, along with the other BBM Self-working discs, rocks! I've had a blast playing with the ideas and even coming up with some stuff on my own using the ideas here. It is definitely rock solid and worth watching if you are a card guy. :)
Message: Posted by: TCB (Jan 6, 2014 04:53PM)
Thanks Mr. Schultz. When I get a little straight from Christmas. I will be getting your DVD. I do 2 card Monte and Chicago Opener. No really hard slights in those, but I am really working hard constantly working out my hands doing all the false cuts I know, trying to get my hands really familiar with the deck of cards It's kind of late in life to be starting in magic, but I realy am so excited, and having a good time. I think the presentation part should come pretty easy to me sgtgrey. I am a performer already.I'm a lead vocalist, and have been fronting Rock bands for many years. That should give me a leg up on the performing part. I got so embaressed today. I tried a little silk hankie vanish to a co-worker, and he said I know you had something on your thumb. I said why do you say that? He said that thumb looked kinda blue. I held the hand as I was instructed with the TT pointed straight toiwards him, and I was back a ways. I think maybe the blue of the silk actually showed through the vernet. I guess that's the growing pains we all go through in this art form in the beginning :)
Message: Posted by: TCB (Jan 11, 2014 01:33PM)
I can't do anything anymore but pracice card slights. I am practicing my classic pass. over and over. The problem is I can't do that and concentrate on the movie I'm watching
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jan 11, 2014 02:23PM)
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On 2014-01-06 17:53, TCB wrote:
Thanks Mr. Schultz. When I get a little straight from Christmas. I will be getting your DVD. I do 2 card Monte and Chicago Opener. No really hard slights in those, but I am really working hard constantly working out my hands doing all the false cuts I know, trying to get my hands really familiar with the deck of cards It's kind of late in life to be starting in magic, but I realy am so excited, and having a good time. I think the presentation part should come pretty easy to me sgtgrey. I am a performer already.I'm a lead vocalist, and have been fronting Rock bands for many years. That should give me a leg up on the performing part. I got so embaressed today. I tried a little silk hankie vanish to a co-worker, and he said I know you had something on your thumb. I said why do you say that? He said that thumb looked kinda blue. I held the hand as I was instructed with the TT pointed straight toiwards him, and I was back a ways. I think maybe the blue of the silk actually showed through the vernet. I guess that's the growing pains we all go through in this art form in the beginning :)
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TCB, dark silks can cause that to happen. I always use red for that very reason. Red looks best for my coloring. Experiment and see what works best for you.
Message: Posted by: TCB (Jan 11, 2014 02:55PM)
I wanted to edit my last post and say that I actualy can practice, while watching a movie, once muscle memory kicks in. When you do it over and over lots of times, you don't even have to think about it anymore. I find that I pick up card slights pretty quickly. Good manual dexteity I suppose. I guess that's a good thing. So much to learn, where to start? So far worked on multiple card lifts, top changes, false cuts, elmsly count, classic pass. I said I pick up slights pretty easy, but I am having a little trouble with card fans @ video man, thanks for that tip