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Topic: Loading objects that have been in full view!
Message: Posted by: ddeckmann (Sep 2, 2013 08:00PM)
Hi,

I'm looking for sources on this subject. Does anyone knows which routines are similar to Tommy Wonder's 2 cup routine routine.

I'm working on a 1 cup routine and I want to load an object that has been in full view, in fact, the idea came from Tommy Wonder's routine.

I have studied several methods and I found several solutions. Still I would like to do my homework.

BTW, it's for a competition.

Thanks in advance
Message: Posted by: jconstantine (Sep 3, 2013 09:02AM)
Tom stone goes into some detail on this in his penguinmagic lecture. He does several loads on and off of the table using the crossing the gaze switch. It's an excellent lecture. Not too many tricks shown. But a lot of good advice and theory in many different aspects of magic. But what you are looking for is pretty much what he does.

He does a typical final load and after revealing that final load he reloads that load that is in plain sight again and reveals it for a second time. It's a real kick in the face even if your looking for it.

Here is the link for the lecture. Hope this helps you. Please let me know if it does.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/3490
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Sep 3, 2013 11:47PM)
The Bob Stencil method is quite popular. Check out the Ron Wilson book.
Message: Posted by: ddeckmann (Sep 4, 2013 02:23PM)
I'm getting the Tom Stone lecture because of the price and instant download. I'll get back after watching it.

Still I'll eventually get the Ron Wilson book, I've never heard of him and after some research I'm deeply curious.

Thanks again!
Message: Posted by: professorwhut (Sep 4, 2013 02:37PM)
You cannot go wrong with Tom Stone.
He also has a couple of very good books.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Sep 5, 2013 02:02PM)
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On 2013-09-04 15:23, ddeckmann wrote:
I'm getting the Tom Stone lecture because of the price and instant download. I'll get back after watching it.

Still I'll eventually get the Ron Wilson book, I've never heard of him and after some research I'm deeply curious.

Thanks again!
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"I've never heard of him."? Interesting. Maybe you should do some real research. Don't just use google. This should give you more information. http://www.geniimagazine.com/magicpedia/Ron_Wilson

If you use that article as a stepping stone, you might find more than you bargained for.
Message: Posted by: ddeckmann (Sep 10, 2013 11:26AM)
Dear Bill,

consider that I'm the only magician in my country that speaks English and that I'm in magic for only 5 years. We don't have magic shops and buying a book implies 30$ of shipping.

Last year I've discovered Alan Wakeling and last week Pete Biro told me about Jay Marshall, what a great magician he was!

Ron Wilson's book is on my wishlist, no doubt!
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Sep 10, 2013 10:28PM)
I don't mean to be harsh, but there is a whole realm of magic material in Spanish and/or Portuguese. Have you read (for example) [i]Engaņos a ojos vistas, y diversion de trabajos mundanos, fundada en licitos juegos de manos[/i], which was written by Pablo Minguet y Yrol and published in 1733? There is good c&b material in that book. Some of it can be traced directly back to [i]Hocus Pocus, Jr.[/i].

The internet knows basically no boundaries at all.

Many of the books that concern magic are now available as ebooks from their original publishers. L&L has converted much of their library. I don't believe Richard Kaufman has done this yet, but don't be surprised if it happens. Most books these days start are generated from PDF's or a similar electronic publishing format. In any case, if you can find a copy, either electronic or paper, of Genii Magazine, Volume 29, Number 7, in March of 1965, you will find Larry Jennings' interpretation of the Bob Stencil loading technique which Larry may have learned from Ron Wilson. Ron used the same technique.

There is a lot of material on loading technique in Secret Sessions. To find it, go up to the search button in the upper right corner of the screen, click on it and search for Final Load or Cups and Balls or Chop Cup. Limit the search to Secret Sessions. You will find a wealth of information there, and it is absolutely FREE!
Message: Posted by: ddeckmann (Sep 11, 2013 08:00AM)
Thanks Bill,

Most of my material I get it from the US. Books in Bazar de Magia (nearest & biggest magic store) are way too expensive!

Lybrary.com also is a great source.