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Topic: 2 Part Chop Cup Question....(Say that 3 times fast)
Message: Posted by: skyfire (Dec 23, 2013 09:15PM)
Part One: What kind of Chop Cup does Paul Daniels use in his clip that is on Youtube? I am a C & B novice, but it looks very similar to a “Ken Brooke Master Chop Cup” to me. Or is it another type of cup?

Here is the clip - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSMppfXpDmg


Part Two: I have three Chop Cups in mind that I want to purchase using the following criteria, Size, Weight, and of course quality of the Gaff. The three I am torn between at the moment is the 1) “Ken Brooke Master Chop Cup”, 2) the “Don Allen Chop Cup”, 3) or the “Johnson Chop Cup”. (Or feel free to shout out your favorite if it's one other than these three)

So I thought I would ask the more experienced C & B people in here than I am this question. Thanks to any that answer.
Message: Posted by: Magic.J.Manuel (Dec 23, 2013 10:32PM)
That that that!
Message: Posted by: skyfire (Dec 23, 2013 10:49PM)
Well, I guess I asked for that... (Literally)

Chalk one up for Magic.J.Manual (Good one)
Message: Posted by: Ray Haining (Dec 24, 2013 01:21AM)
I use an Aluminum Riser Shorty Cup. It's a beautifully made cup that holds a tennis ball final load, and it is designed such that it looks like there is no way a ball that size could fit inside. I don't know if they are still available. I went to Riser's website, and it looks like just about everything is discontinued, but I'm not sure about the chop cups. You have to scroll down a ways to get to them. Here is the website: http://www.jamesriser.com/Magic/JamesRiserMagic.html

Of the three you mention, I would go with the Ken Brooke cup. I was just on the RNT2 website, and the junior version looks good. I think it holds a tennis ball. If you want to go with a baseball size load, the Working Pro model looks good. I had a Don Alan stubby and regular and didn't like them--both too heavy and the regular too tall. I'm not familiar with the Johnson, but I don't think it holds a tennis ball.
Message: Posted by: pepka (Dec 24, 2013 02:50AM)
Yes, I really think it is a Ken Brooke cup. I use a Don Alan cup. Load 2 baseballs and they go nuts.
Message: Posted by: dcjames (Dec 24, 2013 09:46AM)
Hi Skyfire -

All are good cups and are of very high quality.

Selection of a chop cup (or set of cups) can be based on several factors. Venue, final load size, routine requirements, etc. IMO final load size is rather dependent on the performer's abilities. Can you invisibly load a baseball or large fruit? If not, then a smaller cup may be the better option.

The Don Alan is a beautiful cup (As are all those produced by RNT2.) It has a pleasing shape and holds a baseball sized final load.

The Ken Brooke Master cup (as shown in the clip) is a tall, large cup that takes a baseball final load as well. (The Ken Brooke Jr cup is a very nice option as well. Tennis ball sized load and shorter than the Master.)

The Johnson is the smallest of the three and is designed for a lacrosse ball size final load. I really like the weight and feel of this cup.

The best advice I can give is, if at all possible, handle all three before making a decision so that you can determine which feels best in your hands and performs the way that best suits you. This is really the only way to make an informed decision.

Good luck with your purchase! You really can't go wrong with any of these cups.

Best,

Doug