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Topic: Pocket Bizarre Peter Eggink Paul Harris Presents
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Jan 10, 2014 08:41PM)
I believe there is another thread on this, but it lacks the title of the effect, so I don't think anyone will be able to find it.

Here is the Saturn Magic explanation and link:

The next release form Paul Harris Presents looks like being Pocket Bizarre by Peter Eggink.
No firm details are out yet but it looks like a card to pocket type trick that can also be done with cards, credit cards or money.

Orders will ship on the release date 15th Jan 2014.

I have this, so allow me to elaborate:

This is an effect where a playing card, credit card, or bill disappears. You say the card is in your pocket and turn around. There is no card in your pocket. You turn around again and without your hands going anywhere near your back pockets, card is protruding from your back pocket. You can use a signed card.

Link:

http://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/blog/pocket-bizarre-peter-eggink-paul-harris-presents.html

Here is my review:

AWESOME!

Peter shows some really good routines along with how to use the gimmicks. In one routine, a participant selects a card and signs it. You sandwich the card between two cards. You then turn it horizontal to the two sandwich cards and they hold their sandwiched card. their card disappears in an instant. You say the card has traveled to your back pocket. your hands have never reached back to your back pocket. you turn around and your pockets are empty. you turn around again and the card has appeared in your back pocket without your hands ever touching your back pockets. You remove the card and hand them their signed card.

Highly recommended.
Message: Posted by: gimmickless (Jan 13, 2014 05:50AM)
Trailer http://vimeo.com/83747126
Message: Posted by: Rabid (Jan 13, 2014 05:55AM)
I gotta say, that looks particularly impressive.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Jan 13, 2014 06:45AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-13 06:50, gimmickless wrote:
Trailer http://vimeo.com/83747126
[/quote]

Err with password.
Message: Posted by: gimmickless (Jan 13, 2014 06:57AM)
Yes. Its removed now. He forget list it as private
Message: Posted by: JackMagic (Jan 13, 2014 07:45AM)
Still shows up as private for me !!!!!!
Message: Posted by: GeneTony (Jan 13, 2014 07:53AM)
Still shows as private here too, asking for password.
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Jan 13, 2014 07:58AM)
Peter must have uploaded his demo and forgot to make it private which it now is, all details are being held off until the release date.

With this there are no pre-order delays, the day it launches you will be able to order and we will ship the same day assuming you order early enough.
Message: Posted by: smacks183 (Jan 13, 2014 08:42AM)
Good news. Will Saturn have this first? Do you know when this might be in the brick and mortars and other online dealers? Thanks.
Message: Posted by: gimmickless (Jan 13, 2014 08:51AM)
Hocus pocus offer free shipping on this
Message: Posted by: EddieM (Jan 13, 2014 11:13AM)
MJM Magic is going to be carrying it, shipping tomorrow (the 14th). I spoke with Jeff over there, and he is raving about this. I can't wait to place my order once it's released!
Message: Posted by: Martin.Lester (Jan 13, 2014 12:49PM)
So we can't see a preview video but everyone is expected to pre order because it's a Paul Harris DVD it must be good

What next ?

Do we just send a blank cheque to our local dealer and trust they will post us a good product

This is stretching the pre order to the extreme

Or maybe there is a reason the Pre View Video has been left "Private"
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Jan 13, 2014 01:02PM)
Hi Guys,

Alakazam should have these in shortly. Really looking forward to playing with this one.

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: PHSIS (Jan 13, 2014 01:03PM)
Hello Martin

We have told dealers not to offer Pocket Bizarre for pre-order. That's why the demo isn't up yet. This will officially be out in the next day or two. Oh that same day the demo will be up and that dealers will be authorized to take orders. This is also the first day that most of the dealers will have received stock allowing them to send your order right away. So we are doing what we can to make this process as fair as possible for all involved.
Always open to suggestions on how we can make this all better!

Kind Regards

Janet Harris
Message: Posted by: Fire Starter (Jan 13, 2014 01:19PM)
Any idea on a price? for this please.
Message: Posted by: insight (Jan 13, 2014 01:21PM)
Can't wait for this---I believe it will be a game changer.

Regards,
Mike
Message: Posted by: Martin.Lester (Jan 13, 2014 01:28PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-13 14:03, PHSIS wrote:
Hello Martin

We have told dealers not to offer Pocket Bizarre for pre-order. That's why the demo isn't up yet. This will officially be out in the next day or two. Oh that same day the demo will be up and that dealers will be authorized to take orders. This is also the first day that most of the dealers will have received stock allowing them to send your order right away. So we are doing what we can to make this process as fair as possible for all involved.
Always open to suggestions on how we can make this all better!

Kind Regards

Janet Harris
[/quote]

Ok Fair Enough

Look forward to seeing this shortly !
Message: Posted by: VMagical (Jan 13, 2014 03:20PM)
***, missed the trailer. Hope to see it by tomorrow ;)
Message: Posted by: Paul Gross (Jan 13, 2014 06:58PM)
Hello,

Pocket Bizarre by Peter Eggnik Update....This will be officially for sale tonight after midnight..All details and video demo will be online at Hocus Pocus..Check it out! IN STOCK & Free Worldwide Shipping!!

Best regards
Paul Gross
Owner
Hocus Pocus
Message: Posted by: Jeff_Mash (Jan 13, 2014 07:24PM)
I can also confirm that MJM Magic will be carrying this and shipping to our customers on Tuesday the 14th. More details to be published soon, but all I can say is, "This effect is a winner, through and through." It's been awhile since I've gotten this excited over a product.
Message: Posted by: insight (Jan 13, 2014 07:30PM)
Alright, Alright...come on, who admits they will be up at midnight just to catch a glimpse of the demo? :) Exciting times, indeed.

Regards,
Mike
Message: Posted by: EddieM (Jan 13, 2014 07:33PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-13 20:30, insight wrote:
Alright, Alright...come on, who admits they will be up at midnight just to catch a glimpse of the demo? :)
[/quote]

Okay, I admit.....I will be!
Message: Posted by: Gabe Asher (Jan 13, 2014 08:36PM)
The Haunted Pocket.

What will they think of next?
Message: Posted by: Paul Gross (Jan 13, 2014 08:49PM)
Hey EddieM,

Just a few more hours...Stay up..It will be worth it..Trust me..

Best regards
Paul Gross
Owner
Hocus Pocus
Message: Posted by: VMagical (Jan 13, 2014 10:53PM)
Woo here it is guys! I like it!

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WdlBnN9am0]Pocket Bizarre[/url]
Message: Posted by: EddieM (Jan 13, 2014 11:00PM)
Woohoo! The product and trailer for this is now up at MJM Magic......

[url=http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/-p-17943.html]Pocket Bizarre by Peter Eggink - Trailer and Product[/url]

I asked Jeff (at MJM) about it, and he says not only can this be done with a SIGNED card, but there's a version where the SPECTATOR can even remove the signed card from your pocket themselves (which was my main concern).

So I just placed my order with free shipping, and should get it within a day or so! I can't wait to review this and see what others think as well.
Message: Posted by: Jeff_Mash (Jan 13, 2014 11:08PM)
Eddie - Wow, you're fast bro! I thought I would clarify some of the questions that I just got about this item, since I know people will have them:

[b]1. Can the spectator remove the card?[/b] YES! In the basic handling, the spectator can remove their chosen card from your pocket.

[b]2. Can the card be signed?[/b] YES! Peter covers MANY different versions and handlings of this effect. His favorite method is one where the spectator's SIGNED card is produced from his back pocket, which you immediately hand them as a souvenir.

[b]3. Yes, but can the spectator remove the SIGNED card from your pocket themselves?[/b] YES! There is an easy SIGNED CARD handling that Peter teaches where the spectator can SEE AND REMOVE the signed card themselves!

It's been a while since I have been EXCITED about an effect, but this one lives up to it. And best of all.....there are no complicated arts and crafts needed, so you don't have to worry about buying it, and then sitting down for an hour to customize it. Once you have it set up, that's it! Instant reset, super visual, and the gimmick does all the work for you.

[url=http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/-p-17943.html]Pocket Bizarre by Peter Eggink[/url]
Message: Posted by: barts185 (Jan 13, 2014 11:37PM)
Does the statement

"YOUR HANDS ARE EMPTY AND NEVER COME NEAR THE BACK POCKET"

apply for the signed card / business card / bill option? I'm guessing it doesn't, but hoping to be pleasantly surprised.
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Jan 13, 2014 11:43PM)
Barts,
I think you will be pleasantly surprised. In the context of the various performances, I would say that statement is very true. You turn around and the card is not in your pocket. You turn around again and the card appears in your pocket without ever coming close to your pocket. It is pretty remarkable!
KJ
Message: Posted by: barts185 (Jan 13, 2014 11:56PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 00:43, 1KJ wrote:
Barts,
I think you will be pleasantly surprised. In the context of the various performances, I would say that statement is very true. You turn around and the card is not in your pocket. You turn around again and the card appears in your pocket without ever coming close to your pocket. It is pretty remarkable!
KJ
[/quote]

WOW - I hope this is taken the right way, because I'm truly impressed and not just being a wi$e-a$$

That's got to be one of the best ways to say NO that I've ever seen!

:applause: :applause: :applause:
Message: Posted by: Harry the magic man (Jan 14, 2014 12:16AM)
Looks nice. I have some of Peter's other products and his explainations are very well done. I will be picking this up.
Harry
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Jan 14, 2014 12:28AM)
The day is here Pocket Bizarre is available and in stock ready to ship today.

I have done quick review and have uploaded a bonus page with extra tips for anyone buying from Saturn Magic.

http://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/new-magic/pocket-bizarre-by-peter-eggink-paul-harris-presents.html

This release is great and does exactly what is advertised, credit must go to Peter for coming up with this idea, it's very cool!!!!
Message: Posted by: taller8 (Jan 14, 2014 12:42AM)
How durable is the gimmick for those that have seen it?
Message: Posted by: drphil (Jan 14, 2014 12:45AM)
I never thought I would see a magic effect that one of its key points is "works with any size of buttocks". I wonder if you could use this for card to wallet gone wrong?
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Jan 14, 2014 12:50AM)
This is ok if you're a ballet dancer, but not for me. Very average effect IMO.
Message: Posted by: Gabe Asher (Jan 14, 2014 01:03AM)
Easy Organic Activation.

That was Viagra's original slogan.

Thanks for the demo. What a terrible effect.
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Jan 14, 2014 01:07AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 01:42, taller8 wrote:
How durable is the gimmick for those that have seen it?
[/quote]

It's made very well and should last a very long time with normal care.

I have no worries about breaking it you could go around all day set up ready to go.
Message: Posted by: M Pitcher (Jan 14, 2014 01:24AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 02:03, Gabe Asher wrote:
Easy Organic Activation.

That was Viagra's original slogan.

Thanks for the demo. What a terrible effect.
[/quote]

Wow....strong words without owning the actual product. Typical café behavior.

Peter, this looks like a WINNER. The appearance of the card is brilliant. Can't wait to get my hands on this one ;)

M P
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jan 14, 2014 01:48AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 02:03, Gabe Asher wrote:
Easy Organic Activation.

That was Viagra's original slogan.

Thanks for the demo. What a terrible effect.
[/quote]

Totally cool if it's not your cup of tea, I can certainly respect that. But not sure why you would think it is a terrible effect.
I wonder if the creator were to perform the effect for you in person if you would use the exact same choice of words to describe it.
Message: Posted by: Martin.Lester (Jan 14, 2014 01:58AM)
I must say this looks very good but one question

Do you have to wear jeans or very loose fitting trousers like what is shown on demo ?
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Jan 14, 2014 02:17AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 02:58, Martin.Lester wrote:
I must say this looks very good but one question

Do you have to wear jeans or very loose fitting trousers like what is shown on demo ?
[/quote]

You can wear any type of trouser (jeans, casual or suit trousers) with a normal type pocket as shown and you have different options to set this up.
Message: Posted by: TheBentos (Jan 14, 2014 03:46AM)
This looks like a good commercial effect, and also provides good timing for a deck switch as the spec takes the card out of your pocket.
I'll wait for some reviews to come through first though
Message: Posted by: gimmickless (Jan 14, 2014 04:03AM)
For this you can order without reviews. paul Harris and eggink never disappoint us :)
Message: Posted by: Gabe Asher (Jan 14, 2014 04:20AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 02:24, M Pitcher wrote:

Wow....strong words without owning the actual product. Typical café behavior.

[/quote]

Yes, I agree.
Message: Posted by: magicbyswh (Jan 14, 2014 04:37AM)
Can the gimmick be placed and the card appear in a box instead of your back pocket?
Message: Posted by: MR Effecto (Jan 14, 2014 04:51AM)
Waitting for some reviews. Love his work with magic. Why does it say Signed and un-signed options?? Makes me wornder if the signed option your hands need to come close to the gimmick? I would only perform this if the card can be signed and your hands don't come close to the gimmick like it says. But I think thet would be only with the un signed one.
Message: Posted by: Iain Moran (Jan 14, 2014 05:03AM)
I like the look of this, but always wear a suit when I perform and lifting your jacket up looks rather inelegant. This seems to be more suitable for casual performers.
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Jan 14, 2014 05:08AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 05:51, MR Effecto wrote:
Waitting for some reviews. Love his work with magic. Why does it say Signed and un-signed options?? Makes me wornder if the signed option your hands need to come close to the gimmick? I would only perform this if the card can be signed and your hands don't come close to the gimmick like it says. But I think thet would be only with the un signed one.
[/quote]

You can do this but to explain would give too much away I think, but signed options are easy to do, the unsigned very very easy!
Message: Posted by: Gabe Asher (Jan 14, 2014 05:40AM)
The signed option you will have to p@!m off their card while your back is turned to reveal the card in your pocket. Then you turn back to face the audience, reach around with the p@!med selection and come out with it as if you took it out of the back pocket.

Your hand does more than just come near it. You have to take it out yourself with the signed version. So you handle it, behind your back :P

Can the spectator examine your pocket?
Message: Posted by: M Pitcher (Jan 14, 2014 06:51AM)
Just ordered this through Peter Eggink directly as I always like to support the creator.

It is up on his website: http://www.peter-eggink.com/store-pocket-bizzare.html

Will do an initial review on this once I received it. Can't wait to get my hands on this one. Looks killer!

M P
Message: Posted by: PHSIS (Jan 14, 2014 07:35AM)
Hi there

All of us at PHP are of course very proud and excited to finally see Pocket Bizarre released. It's unbelievable the amount of thought, work, time and testing that goes
into perfecting something like this. Seeing a few of the comments here..we wanted to be very clear about the nature of the gimmick.

The gimmick is designed to make what ever is already secretly in the back pocket suddenly appear. The card or other object that magically appears poking out of the pocket is a duplicate of whatever vanishes. Peter and Paul have included some beautiful super easy presentations where a signed card is used…and this can easily be done by someone with Zero palming skills! There is some very creative thinking here that
makes everything completely worry-free.

The special gimmick and the way it's activated is a thing of beauty…and for what it's worth..Peter's told me that Pocket Bizarre is the one effect that he now does ALL the time because it's just so fun and simple to perform.

Truly appreciate everyone's interest here!

Janet Harris

PHP Astonishment Goddess
Message: Posted by: Theo Clubs (Jan 14, 2014 08:06AM)
First magic trick/gimmick I've bought in years. Full review when I actually get it, but I'm all fingers-and-thumbs until it does get it. Love Peter and PH's goods. Never been dissappointed before, as good as that.
Message: Posted by: mike donoghue (Jan 14, 2014 09:03AM)
Looks very good & simple top use. John G has some nice work on this effect as well.

Trailer is excellent and shows lots of ideas.

As for people" examining your pocket", I think if it comes to this, then the person performing for lay people is not very experienced. I can just imagine the reaction I would get if I thrust my hand into an audience members back pocket. I would be asked to leave the premises of the place I was working at.You would never dream of doing this, so likewise for an audience member to do this is a no no. If you have any amount of performing experience, it's all about your performance and how YOU CONTROL YOUR PERFORMING ENVIRONMENT.
Looking forward to getting and working this though I do agree with Ian that as we wear a suit, it may look a little strange turning and showing your bum lol.

Going to take the plunge anyway though.

Mike Donoghue
Message: Posted by: mysticalsales (Jan 14, 2014 09:17AM)
Im sure the no palm version can be done with a double back card and a D/L. In this case the performer would have to take the card out of pocket, place it on the deck and you know the rest.
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jan 14, 2014 10:05AM)
How difficult is it to move the gimmick from one pair of pants to another?
Also, wearing it in your back pocket in a casual setting means you may have to sit on it, is it durable enough to withstand that?
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Jan 14, 2014 10:13AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 11:05, videoman wrote:
How difficult is it to move the gimmick from one pair of pants to another?
Also, wearing it in your back pocket in a casual setting means you may have to sit on it, is it durable enough to withstand that?
[/quote]

No problem to move from one to the other, the gimmick is adjustable and it's strong enough to be sat on.

I wouldn't jump on it, but normal sitting down etc is ok.

I didn't mention we have free UK shipping on this as well http://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/new-magic/pocket-bizarre-by-peter-eggink-paul-harris-presents.html
Message: Posted by: Jeff_Mash (Jan 14, 2014 10:53AM)
I thought I would jump on here to answer some of the questions I am getting from our customers. That way, it can help any of you who may also share the same curiousity. These are actual questions we are being asked over at MJM Magic:

[b]1. How easy is it to transfer between pants?[/b]

Super easy to transfer between pants. Literally would take no more than 10 seconds max.

[b]2. I assume if the spectator gets a little too aggressive in grabbing the card from your pocket, meaning they stick their hand “too far into” the pocket..the secret will be exposed?[/b]

As for the spectator getting a little aggressive, which I don't ever imagine happening, but if it does......I would still say the odds of exposing the secret will be small. They may only feel your wallet back there, and not be able to tell what the gimmick is.

Personally, I think letting the spectator grab the card (while possible) is not necessary. I mean, it's a good selling point for us magicians to know that they CAN grab the card, but if you put youself in the shoes of the spectator, just imagine what they are seeing. They see nothing in your pocket, and in a split second, they see their card without you ever coming near your wallet. You then fairly hand them the card and the ensuing WAR between the left and right portions of their brain will be in full effect. They will be trying to reconcile what they just SAW versus what they know is clearly impossible. So having them grab the card (in my opinion) doesn't really add anything to the effect, and it's not necessary. Again, that is just something we magicians like to know COULD be done, just to see how flexible the effect can be.

As I get more questions from our customers, I will do my best to come here and post the answers to help the community as a whole.
Message: Posted by: Jeff_Mash (Jan 14, 2014 11:18AM)
Some more questions from MJM customers:

[b]3. Is it noisy? Can I perform it in a quiet environment?[/b]

It's completely silent! You don't have to worry about any weird vibrations or something that will blow your cover.

[b]4. It says no palming, so are they telling me I can get a spectators signed card from my hand and load it in the gimmick with no palming? [/b]

If you want the SIGNED card to be shown in the pocket (face out, signature displayed), then you obviously have to get it back there prior to the reveal......but Peter shows a routine where you are NOT PALMING the card. In other words, it's a way to load it without an awkward palm, and is easily done very casually under the guise of another action.

However, that is only if you want the signature to be shown, face out, in your pocket (which I think you would only do if you want the spectator to remove the card themselves). Again, I think that method is overkill though. The real magic in the spectators mind is seeing their card appear in your pocket, without you going near it, and then you remove the card to show them that it's their signed card. THAT is powerful stuff.

That's the standard signed version and when you see it performed, it's very convincing, and no palm loading is involved.

There are many different ways to use the Pocket Bizarre gimmick. Some easier than others......but the method I like the most if the one I describe above (where the card you take out of your pocket and hand to them is their signed card).
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jan 14, 2014 11:59AM)
This is all sounding very promising.
Can't wait to see a review from an actual user.
Message: Posted by: EddieM (Jan 14, 2014 12:17PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 12:59, videoman wrote:
This is all sounding very promising.
Can't wait to see a review from an actual user.
[/quote]

Same here! I should have mine as early as tomorrow, since MJM already shipped my order out this morning. I will be sure to update this thread with my thoughts once I get to play with it.
Message: Posted by: barts185 (Jan 14, 2014 12:56PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 12:18, Jeff_Mash wrote:
Some more questions from MJM customers:

[b]3. Is it noisy? Can I perform it in a quiet environment?[/b]

It's completely silent! You don't have to worry about any weird vibrations or something that will blow your cover.

[b]4. It says no palming, so are they telling me I can get a spectators signed card from my hand and load it in the gimmick with no palming? [/b]

If you want the SIGNED card to be shown in the pocket (face out, signature displayed), then you obviously have to get it back there prior to the reveal......but Peter shows a routine where you are NOT PALMING the card. In other words, it's a way to load it without an awkward palm, and is easily done very casually under the guise of another action.

However, that is only if you want the signature to be shown, face out, in your pocket (which I think you would only do if you want the spectator to remove the card themselves). Again, I think that method is overkill though. The real magic in the spectators mind is seeing their card appear in your pocket, without you going near it, and then you remove the card to show them that it's their signed card. THAT is powerful stuff.

That's the standard signed version and when you see it performed, it's very convincing, and no palm loading is involved.

There are many different ways to use the Pocket Bizarre gimmick. Some easier than others......but the method I like the most if the one I describe above (where the card you take out of your pocket and hand to them is their signed card).
[/quote]

Regarding signed card option - I would actually rather have the card back out, signature NOT displayed, but then have the spectator remove it from the pocket. So, first, they get to see the card appear, and then, they themselves pull it out to reveal that it is indeed their signed card.

The only demo I've seen so far of the signed version, by Chris from Magic Geek, seems like it would leave intelligent spectators (sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that performs for those based on comments) with a very good idea of what just happened.
Message: Posted by: Peter Eggink (Jan 14, 2014 01:06PM)
Hi All,

Thanks for all the comments on "Pocket Bizarre". This effect came a loooong way but it definitely paid off. This is truly a beautiful thing. Both the PHP team and I are thrilled to share this gem with the rest of the community.

I wanted to share a really cool presentation idea that wasn't included on the DVD:

After the vanish (I personally prefer Glenn Morphew's Rub-a-Dub Deluxe for this particular presentation), the card is not gone but just became "invisible". The spectator places or "throws" the "invisible" card into your back pocket...still invisible. (which is quite amazing in itself) Then a moment later it magically became visible and protrudes from your back pocket!

@Jeff Mash: Thanks for your tremendous support in sharing these Q&A. Terrific job!

If you have any other questions (probably not thanks to Jeff), feel free to contact me ;)

Best,

Peter
Message: Posted by: Jeff_Mash (Jan 14, 2014 01:15PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 13:56, barts185 wrote:
Regarding signed card option - I would actually rather have the card back out, signature NOT displayed, but then have the spectator remove it from the pocket. So, first, they get to see the card appear, and then, they themselves pull it out to reveal that it is indeed their signed card.
[/quote]

I don't see why you couldn't do this. The same handling to have a signed card face outwards (and removed by the spectator) can also be used to have the card face the other way (back outwards). In both instances, the spectator can choose to remove the card and the handling (from your perspective) would be the same. In other words, you would still vanish the card, you would still show your pocket empty, and then the card which appears could be their signed card.

I should also remind people that this doesn't HAVE to be a card effect. You can have money appear....business cards, credit cards, or anything of that size/shape.
Message: Posted by: Jeff_Mash (Jan 14, 2014 01:18PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 14:06, Peter Eggink wrote:
After the vanish (I personally prefer Glenn Morphew's Rub-a-Dub Deluxe for this particular presentation), the card is not gone but just became "invisible". The spectator places or "throws" the "invisible" card into your back pocket...still invisible. (which is quite amazing in itself) Then a moment later it magically became visible and protrudes from your back pocket!
[/quote]

I love the way you taught that vanish on the DVD, Peter. No matter how many times I watched it, it still looks like you place the card on the table or underneath the card box. Props to Glenn for allowing you to publish that on this DVD.

[quote]
@Jeff Mash: Thanks for your tremendous support in sharing these Q&A. Terrific job! If you have any other questions (probably not thanks to Jeff), feel free to contact me ;)
[/quote]

LOL - No thanks needed, Peter. You know I've always been a big fan of your stuff, and this may be the best one yet.
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Jan 14, 2014 01:27PM)
Peter,
I love this new handling you shared! Excellent!
KJ
Message: Posted by: S-Branham (Jan 14, 2014 02:39PM)
Peter,

Is this the effect you were teasing us about during your Penguin Live lecture?

~Steve
Message: Posted by: Peter Eggink (Jan 14, 2014 02:52PM)
Not a problem at all, KJ. Glad you like it as much as I do ;)

Yup, Steve...that's the one!

P.
Message: Posted by: Phatmeat (Jan 14, 2014 03:06PM)
Chris Ballinger of Magic Geek demonstrating the signed card version of Pocket Bizarre: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XavPw2YpBks
Message: Posted by: Blindside785 (Jan 14, 2014 03:31PM)
I think it's great, I can see myself using it for misdirection for a different kind of routine. I dig it.

Do the T.P. with two cards so when you take out the card you leave an indifferent card in your back pocket. Say that it's gonna happen again, the audience takes it out because you left and indifferent card, it's not the gimmick or anything, just a regular card, a perfect misdirection moment for a MCF, and a load into something nice.
Message: Posted by: insight (Jan 14, 2014 03:51PM)
Quick question: Does any spectator ever question the fact that the performer's hand goes near a pocket to put the pen back in?

Regards,
Mike
Message: Posted by: WanderingMagician (Jan 14, 2014 03:57PM)
I'm with iain on this one....i like the effect and looks great for informal performances but I personally would not do it at paid gigs because a suit jacket would get in the way of a clean reveal. But can the gimmick be located in the outside breast pocket of a jacket? If so then I can think of another routine for which this would be really useful addition. Thanks
Message: Posted by: Gabe Asher (Jan 14, 2014 04:04PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 10:03, mike donoghue wrote:

As for people" examining your pocket", I think if it comes to this, then the person performing for lay people is not very experienced. I can just imagine the reaction I would get if I thrust my hand into an audience members back pocket. I would be asked to leave the premises of the place I was working at.You would never dream of doing this, so likewise for an audience member to do this is a no no. If you have any amount of performing experience, it's all about your performance and how YOU CONTROL YOUR PERFORMING ENVIRONMENT.

Mike Donoghue
[/quote]

And Mike Donoghue has obviously never performed a card to pocket routine for real people.

They ALWAYS want to reach into your pocket when a card appears in it. Usually just ladies, but this would be no different.

Nice try Mike. You don't really perform do you?
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Jan 14, 2014 04:19PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 16:57, WanderingMagician wrote:
I'm with iain on this one....i like the effect and looks great for informal performances but I personally would not do it at paid gigs because a suit jacket would get in the way of a clean reveal. But can the gimmick be located in the outside breast pocket of a jacket? If so then I can think of another routine for which this would be really useful addition. Thanks
[/quote]

I didn't see any explanation of this on the DVD, but the more I think about it, the more I think it would be VERY doable to have this come out of your breast pocket. I think the device could be built into your coat. You would just need a good misdirection for the appearance of the card in front of your body.
KJ
Message: Posted by: mike donoghue (Jan 14, 2014 04:58PM)
You are correct gabe I don't really do at least 200 paid events a yeat.it's also not really me on my website with celebrities, it's someone who I pay to pretend they are me. I don't really know what I am talking about.i only do 2 effects taking my thumb off and the 21 card trick which goes on for ever. am going to release a dvd on it but using 22 cars instead. my goodness I have finally been tumbled by one of the greats of magic. if only I had your knowledge and presence. mike donoghue
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Jan 14, 2014 05:01PM)
WanderingMagician,

The more I think about it, the more I like your idea!

I think that you would have everything you need by way of instruction in the DVD to figure out how to modify this to be used in the breast pocket. Also, the props included are top notch and I think you just might appreciate having them to use in this way.

In fact, I REALLY like your idea!. I think I am going to work on setting one up in a jacket so it is always ready to go. In fact, I think that is better than the original design using the back pocket. Also, I think there are hundreds of ways of doing the misdirection to have the card appear right in front of their eyes without having to turn around and showing it from the back pocket.

I don't want to give away any method here, so if you would like to PM me once you receive your unit (along with a description of the method), I would be happy to share my alternate method suggestion for jacket use.

KJ
Message: Posted by: M Pitcher (Jan 14, 2014 05:17PM)
[/quote]

And Mike Donoghue has obviously never performed a card to pocket routine for real people.

They ALWAYS want to reach into your pocket when a card appears in it. Usually just ladies, but this would be no different.

Nice try Mike. You don't really perform do you?
[/quote]

Maybe YOUR audience do. The focus is on their card and not where it came from depending on the construction and handling of the routine of course. If not, your presentation could be lacking. Like you said, if the ladies want to examine your pockets it is usually for another reason.

Really looking forward to receive my copy soon. Can't wait.

M P
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Jan 14, 2014 05:47PM)
Mike D and M Pitcher,

As for a participant/audience member taking the card themselves from your pocket, there are ways to do a routine where the actual signed card is in the pocket, and it CAN be removed by the participant. In fact, Peter teaches a great routine that does just that! It is really fantastic.

I have also come up with a routine that uses the breast pocket of a jacket for the card appearance and it is the actual signed card that appears while my hands are in my front pants pockets. Ama..ZING!

KJ
Message: Posted by: mike donoghue (Jan 14, 2014 07:48PM)
I am sure that can be done and I am not disputing the fact. there are many ways to acompish this.i think the product will be great.as I said. I will be taking the plunge.peter eggick and paul Harris both rock.missed peters lecture at newcastle magic circle a few yrs ago as I was working at an event but saw paul many moons ago and met one of my magic heroes. only point I was making that people wanting to put their hands in your picket is not really a priblem. looking forward to getting this as over the yrs havw been producing signed cards from wallet, under card bix on forehead from behind peoes watches in bottles on ceiling on other side of window in catd bix in pocket inside trousers inside kennedy typw boxs etc etc. will be getting it. mike donoghue
Message: Posted by: magicbyswh (Jan 14, 2014 07:49PM)
I just ordered from MJM magic. Jeff has been very helpful answering questions and you get 4.00 in reward points as well. Plus he is giving FREE SHIPPING. Thanks Jeff
Message: Posted by: mike donoghue (Jan 14, 2014 07:51PM)
Excuse bad spelling but half asleep an using mobile phone and fingers hitting wrong keys mike donoghue
Message: Posted by: Jeff_Mash (Jan 14, 2014 07:58PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 20:49, magicbyswh wrote:
I just ordered from MJM magic. Jeff has been very helpful answering questions and you get 4.00 in reward points as well. Plus he is giving FREE SHIPPING. Thanks Jeff
[/quote]

Thank YOU, Steve. Your order will ship first thing in the morning. :)
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jan 14, 2014 09:09PM)
I agree with others who have pointed out that this prop could work very well for routines requiring deck switches or ditches.
Gives you a very plausible reason to turn around for a brief moment and provides excellent misdirection.
Would make following up with Envylope or Extractor a piece of cake.
If the reviews are good I may pick one up for that reason alone.
Oh and another obstacle I run into often is that when out with friends we are usually seated like in a bar or somewhere.
Makes it difficult to do a deck switch which I prefer to do standing, so this also provides a sensible reason for standing up too.
Message: Posted by: WanderingMagician (Jan 15, 2014 03:39AM)
Thanks for your help and confirmation KJ. I just PMed you with my current thoughts for this
Message: Posted by: Ross W (Jan 15, 2014 06:49AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 17:04, Gabe Asher wrote:
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 10:03, mike donoghue wrote:

As for people" examining your pocket", I think if it comes to this, then the person performing for lay people is not very experienced. I can just imagine the reaction I would get if I thrust my hand into an audience members back pocket. I would be asked to leave the premises of the place I was working at.You would never dream of doing this, so likewise for an audience member to do this is a no no. If you have any amount of performing experience, it's all about your performance and how YOU CONTROL YOUR PERFORMING ENVIRONMENT.

Mike Donoghue
[/quote]

And Mike Donoghue has obviously never performed a card to pocket routine for real people.

They ALWAYS want to reach into your pocket when a card appears in it. Usually just ladies, but this would be no different.

Nice try Mike. You don't really perform do you?
[/quote]

In my experience, it can happen but only in certain performing environments. Proper, paid gigs tend to be a little more orderly, and you're normally on before people are drunk, so Mike Donoghue is right: it would be highly unusual for someone to reach into your pocket uninvited. But at bars (especially) you have to be on the lookout for p*ssed-up ladies (especially) grabbing stuff. It's not insurmountable, but you have to be aware of it.

Perhaps I just perform a lot for drunks.
Message: Posted by: Gabe Asher (Jan 15, 2014 06:59AM)
What's funny is that I never asked Mike Donoghue a question.

And my original question had nothing to do with audience management or performance environments. I am a highly experienced performer, I do not need advice from random strangers thank you.

I simply asked if someone can look into the pocket.

It would have been easier to just say no.

Since they can't reach into the pocket, I'd be hesitant to let them remove the card.

To me, this is a very weak effect.
Message: Posted by: M Pitcher (Jan 15, 2014 09:01AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-15 07:59, Gabe Asher wrote:
What's funny is that I never asked Mike Donoghue a question.

And my original question had nothing to do with audience management or performance environments. I am a highly experienced performer, I do not need advice from random strangers thank you.

I simply asked if someone can look into the pocket.

It would have been easier to just say no.

Since they can't reach into the pocket, I'd be hesitant to let them remove the card.

To me, this is a very weak effect.
[/quote]

'Cause YOU are hesitant to let them remove the card this is now a weak EFFECT? Heavily Sigh.

Expecting mine in a couple of days. Really excited about this!

M P
Message: Posted by: PHSIS (Jan 15, 2014 10:16AM)
Hi All

To answer the concerns about a spectator "feeling the gimmick if they put a hand into the pocket".

The gimmick is specifically designed to securely clip into the inside of a normal closed wallet. So if a spectator

were to reach inside

the pocket, they would only feel your normal wallet.

Hope this clears things up.

Janet Harris

PHP Astonishment Goddess
Message: Posted by: Phatmeat (Jan 15, 2014 10:24AM)
Is it necessary to have a wallet in your back pocket for this effect to work, or is that part optional? Just curious as I always wear my wallet in my front pocket. And would the thickness of the wallet make a difference in how well the gimmick operates?
Message: Posted by: PHSIS (Jan 15, 2014 10:33AM)
Wallet is optional. Thickness of wallet shouldn't make a difference.

J.H
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jan 15, 2014 10:41AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-15 07:59, Gabe Asher wrote:
What's funny is that I never asked Mike Donoghue a question.

And my original question had nothing to do with audience management or performance environments. I am a highly experienced performer, I do not need advice from random strangers thank you.

I simply asked if someone can look into the pocket.

It would have been easier to just say no.

Since they can't reach into the pocket, I'd be hesitant to let them remove the card.

To me, this is a very weak effect.
[/quote]


Gabe, I think this effect is very promising with a lot of potential. I don't think the spectator reaching in your pocket is an issue at all. Would you let a spec reach in and grab your wallet under any other circumstances?
BTW, I presume your screen name is a pseudonym but it seems an odd choice. Is there something you are trying to tell us?
If not, my apologies.
Message: Posted by: Jeff_Mash (Jan 15, 2014 11:43AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-15 11:24, Phatmeat wrote:
Is it necessary to have a wallet in your back pocket for this effect to work, or is that part optional? Just curious as I always wear my wallet in my front pocket. And would the thickness of the wallet make a difference in how well the gimmick operates?
[/quote]

Like Janet mentioned, the wallet is optional. Peter teaches on the DVD a way to perform this even if you don't carry a wallet in your back pocket. As long as you have a back pocket, you can perform this effect.

I also think it's definitely customizable to work inside of a front breast pocket, for those of you who perform in dress jackets. That isn't demonstrated on the DVD, but knowing the mechanics of the gimmick, I can definitely see that working out quite easily.
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Jan 15, 2014 05:02PM)
I've worked out a way to fit this to a jacket breast pocket and it works fine.

I've uploaded the idea to our bonus page for our customers who have bought this.

The number of ideas on the page is growing 8 in total now.

The product and bonus page can be accessed here http://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/new-magic/pocket-bizarre-by-peter-eggink-paul-harris-presents.html
Message: Posted by: magicbyswh (Jan 15, 2014 08:31PM)
Where is Uday on this one? Have not seen anyone giving him his due for making the gimmick,
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Jan 15, 2014 09:11PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 00:56, barts185 wrote:
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 00:43, 1KJ wrote:
Barts,
I think you will be pleasantly surprised. In the context of the various performances, I would say that statement is very true. You turn around and the card is not in your pocket. You turn around again and the card appears in your pocket without ever coming close to your pocket. It is pretty remarkable!
KJ
[/quote]


WOW - I hope this is taken the right way, because I'm truly impressed and not just being a wi$e-a$$

That's got to be one of the best ways to say NO that I've ever seen!

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[/quote]

Hi Bart!

I thought I was saying "yes". Obviously, I don't want to say that magic really exists and we can all snap our fingers and a card in Denmark disappears from a deck and appears on an Elephant in India. There are some moves involved. But to the spectator, this can be used to make a signed card be seen in the deck, immediately hand the deck to the participant, have them shuffle the deck, you turn around to show an empty pocket, and turn around again to show their signed card in your pocket. Of course, I am describing the participant's perception of what just happened, and there are a few moves a bit of misdirection, but this has got to be one of the easiest ways to make a very magical moment I have seen in a long time. Seriously, you don't have to purchase it, but I think that anything that elevates magic for all elevates magic for me too.

BTW, I don't have ANYTHING to do with the inventor, the distributors, or anyone else affiliated with this product. I just have a lot of magic, much of which gathers dust. When I experience something really good, I don't mind sharing. I personally, have developed my routines for both close-up and stage using this in a modified way from my jacket front pocket. Everything I need is built into the jacket and I'm good to go. I love things that are so easily ready to go.

If you do get it, I hope you enjoy it as much as I am.

KJ
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Jan 15, 2014 09:15PM)
Bart,

BTW, they can go through the deck you just handed them and their card is gone from the deck. If you do get the effect, send me a PM with a description of the method and I'll gladly send you my notes on the routine I developed. It is awesome and I think it is going to be VERY entertaining.

KJ
Message: Posted by: Gaz_Japan (Jan 16, 2014 12:08AM)
A lot of people are going to be surprised when they open the case. I know I was.
Message: Posted by: johndevacmaker (Jan 16, 2014 02:12AM)
If you own a Get Sharkey what a great addition this is as you will have
All the time in the world to get their card in place
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Jan 16, 2014 09:31AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 17:04, Gabe Asher wrote:
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 10:03, mike donoghue wrote:

As for people" examining your pocket", I think if it comes to this, then the person performing for lay people is not very experienced. I can just imagine the reaction I would get if I thrust my hand into an audience members back pocket. I would be asked to leave the premises of the place I was working at.You would never dream of doing this, so likewise for an audience member to do this is a no no. If you have any amount of performing experience, it's all about your performance and how YOU CONTROL YOUR PERFORMING ENVIRONMENT.

Mike Donoghue
[/quote]

And Mike Donoghue has obviously never performed a card to pocket routine for real people.

They ALWAYS want to reach into your pocket when a card appears in it. Usually just ladies, but this would be no different.

Nice try Mike. You don't really perform do you?
[/quote]

Why the need to make such comments?
Message: Posted by: Titanas (Jan 16, 2014 09:38AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-15 21:31, magicbyswh wrote:
Where is Uday on this one? Have not seen anyone giving him his due for making the gimmick,
[/quote]

Hey magicbyswh,
I am a bit confused with your post.
Who would you expect to give him more credit for his work?

I mean the producers made sure to have his name big in the trailer before we even get to see the effect, I am also sure he got paid for his job lol

Uday did a great job in the gimmick of Pocket Bizarre as I also did a great job on the DVD and I didn't ask for any more pros, its a paid job.

Once again, I wasn't trying to be harsh on you I just want to understand who you believe should give more credit to Uday.

Best regards,
Titanas
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Jan 16, 2014 10:43AM)
Johndevacmaker,
This would also work very well with The Extractor.
KJ
Message: Posted by: johndevacmaker (Jan 16, 2014 10:48AM)
Spot on KJ
I have that as well
Message: Posted by: PHSIS (Jan 16, 2014 11:31AM)
Hi All

We want to honor everyone who worked so hard to make Peter's wonderful idea a reality!

Master magical engineer Uday Jagugar contributed some beautiful design touches
to the gimmick to make it more user friendly.

AJ (who works at Udays) worked very closely with Peter for months to develop the concept of the gimmick.

Titanas went above and beyond the
call of duty in shooting the dvd and artfully editing the demo.

The incredible bonus vanishes created by Glenn Morphew and Jeremiah Zuo greatly added to the value of the package.

I know that Paul and Bro don't want to be mentioned here, but they both put a huge amount of effort to make sure that every detail of Pocket Bizarre was as perfect as possible. If you haven't been through the process…it's hard to imagine the time and creativity and expert help it takes to perfect something like this!

A big thank you to everyone working with PHP who helped bring Peter's dream to life! (Please let me know if there's anyone we left out!)

Joy to all

Janet Harris

PHP Astonishment Goddess
Message: Posted by: MR Effecto (Jan 16, 2014 11:31AM)
Anybody got it yet?
Message: Posted by: RNK (Jan 16, 2014 12:16PM)
Someone did as I saw it up for sale here????
Message: Posted by: Misophoniac (Jan 16, 2014 12:54PM)
[quote]Easy Organic Activation.[/quote]

Is this a euphemism for clenching the buttocks? But seriously, this looks pretty fantastic.
Message: Posted by: EddieM (Jan 16, 2014 01:26PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-16 12:31, MR Effecto wrote:
Anybody got it yet?
[/quote]

I got mine today and I LOVE it. It came pretty quick from MJM Magic, and I opened it as soon as it arrived. My first reaction when I opened the DVD Case was, "Huh? How is this going to work?" But as soon as you watch the DVD, it all becomes clear.

The gimmick is well made, and it only took me about 5 minutes to initially set it up. Once you set it up, you're good to go. From that point forward, it's just a matter of putting it inside of your pocket.

The DVD is well produced, and Peter is an excellent teacher.

Reset is instant and as other's have mentioned on this thread, there's all kinds of handlings you could do with this thing (produce your business card, money, or even tailor it to work with a suit jacket pocket).

MJM still has them in stock and they shipped mine the same day. I really recommend this one for any card worker out there. It's always nice to see a new effect which doesn't rely strictly on a gaffed deck to pull off the magic. Any deck can be used with Pocket Bizarre.

http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/-p-17943.html
Message: Posted by: Fligmupple (Jan 17, 2014 01:35AM)
Hello. I would just like to confirm the following before ordering:

Can you get a card signed, and then at some point secretly load it into the gimmick... and then after, show your pocket empty...and then after, make it appear "organically"... and then turn around and have the spectator take the card out of your pocket?

I assume you can from the posts in this thread, but I just want to confirm.
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Jan 17, 2014 04:38AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-17 02:35, Fligmupple wrote:
Hello. I would just like to confirm the following before ordering:

Can you get a card signed, and then at some point secretly load it into the gimmick... and then after, show your pocket empty...and then after, make it appear "organically"... and then turn around and have the spectator take the card out of your pocket?

I assume you can from the posts in this thread, but I just want to confirm.
[/quote]

You can indeed get a signed card into the gimmick.

During the routine you turn around and show nothing sticking out of your pocket, you turn back to face them and when you turn around the second time the signed card it sticking out of the pocket as shown and it can be face out or back out towards the spectator and they can remove it.

The reactions to this are fantastic the disbelief that the pocket was empty and then all of sudden the card is there is great, most people I've done this for mention the hands being out front all the time after you showed the pocket empty they can't believe it!
Message: Posted by: Iain Moran (Jan 17, 2014 08:49AM)
I received this yesterday from Saturn Magic (super fast as usual!) and I like it - in fact I like it quite a lot! Peter has created another gem here and I think that most people will be very pleased with this. It's obviously this has taken a lot of work to put together and the DVD as usual with PHP is excellent and everything is extremely clear.

That said, I won't be using commercially during gigs. Not that I don't want to, but it won't work (for me) in that environment. During gigs I always wear a suit, which means my jacket covers my back pocket from view. I could lift up my jacket to show the pocket empty, then again to show the card sticking out, but it isn't very elegant. Also, most suit trousers have much deeper pockets than jeans do and many have a button too, which can prevent the card from sticking out.

Another issue that hasn't been touched on in this thread is you need two pockets for this - admittedly you could still use the additional pocket for other things, but not as easily if the pocket was empty. If you're a casual performer neither of these things will matter at all, but they do matter if you intended to use this at gigs.

I'm not unhappy with my purchase as I'll certainly use this in casual situations. I am, however, disappointed that I can't use this at gigs as it's a really great effect and I'm sure will get strong reactions.

Iain.
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Jan 17, 2014 09:19AM)
Hi Iain

Thanks I'm glad you like it.

Please check out the bonus page as I cover the button question and deeper pockets in trousers and other things.

I also go into a top pocket version for a jacket.

The password is the part number on your invoice.

Thanks Mark
Message: Posted by: magicbyswh (Jan 17, 2014 07:10PM)
Got mine today and you need to make sure you measure correctly otherwise you will use up the piece going from the candy to the holder. Unfortunately I measured incorrectly 2 times and I am going to have to go to Walmart and find some more of that particular piece in the fishing department. Peter makes setting it up look easy but I am having a hard time measuring everything correctly. Maybe if I was slim and trim it would work better.
Message: Posted by: udayjadu (Jan 17, 2014 07:27PM)
I have not contributed anything much in this trick.
I got the credit more than I deserve.
Thanks to my fan who felt that I am under credited. And special thanks to Paul Harries for giving me the credit.
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Jan 18, 2014 02:41AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-17 20:10, magicbyswh wrote:
Got mine today and you need to make sure you measure correctly otherwise you will use up the piece going from the candy to the holder. Unfortunately I measured incorrectly 2 times and I am going to have to go to Walmart and find some more of that particular piece in the fishing department. Peter makes setting it up look easy but I am having a hard time measuring everything correctly. Maybe if I was slim and trim it would work better.
[/quote]

Hi

I've sent a PM to help you with this, the solution is very simple.
Message: Posted by: Blindside785 (Jan 18, 2014 03:00AM)
I'm really digging mine, I am with Ian Moran, won't use this at gigs. Casually I'll use this :) I knew that going into it though.
Message: Posted by: magicbyswh (Jan 18, 2014 11:56AM)
Mark at Saturn magic has been very helpful and does a great job with reviews and tips. IF you have not seen his review check it out here http://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/reviews.html
If you live in the UK you all are lucky to have a shop with great service and one that is very helpful.
Message: Posted by: Mark Southworth (Jan 18, 2014 12:31PM)
I got this the other day but have been really busy & just watched this, I haven't had a chance to set up but, I love how Peter thinks.

So darn clever :)

Well shot DVD , great gimmick, you can see a lot of work & effort has gone into this.

Really looking forward to performing this :)

I have an idea for performing this at paid gigs still using the back pocket while wearing a jacket, let's see how I get on when I get chance.

Great Release Peter.

Best Wishes

Mark
Message: Posted by: M Pitcher (Jan 18, 2014 04:13PM)
Just received my copy today.

I was pleasantly surprised about the content of the package. I never would've made the connection between the effect and actual gimmicks received. After watching the DVD of course everything fell into place.

Titanus really has outdone himself. The DVD is beautifully shot and produced. Peter does a wonderful job on the teaching and he makes the tutorials very pleasant to watch. He goes through every single detail with lots of presentational hook ups, routines and tips.

The actual workings of the gimmick is VERY clever. I thought about many different solutions when watching the trailer but never saw this one coming! Beautiful and very well thought out. All handlings are motivated and natural.

Most of the times I perform in a jacket as well but I would just remove my jacket to show them nothing is hidden inside my sleeves and don't have access to my side pockets this way to do something sneaky. No biggy at all for me here plus it creates a kind of special moment.

The only negative thing is that one needs to practice to get that rub a dub vanish down so smoothly as Peter performs it on the DVD ;)

Another fantastic product and highly recommended!


M P
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Jan 18, 2014 04:58PM)
The Paul Harris vanish taught is very easy for a start.

You are right that Peter does teach the vanishes very well and with a little practice I think most can get them down.

I found that by videoing myself the vanishes looked good but when you do it in practice looking at it does not feel right because you know what you are doing.

Try videoing it you will surprise yourself how good it looks quite quickly.
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jan 18, 2014 05:41PM)
I realize that this is personal preference and you need to do what you are most comfortable with, but having said that I believe too much of an issue is being made about the inappropriateness of raising the back of your coat for a brief moment. Even in a suit I do not feel this is a major fashion faux pas and you are simply calling attention briefly to your back pocket. I don't own the trick but I would think you would only need to raise one side slightly for an instant. I don't see what the big deal is.
But maybe that's just me.
Message: Posted by: jprace (Jan 18, 2014 07:52PM)
I love the look of this! Here's my idea:

Give the spectators a small stack of four or five bills. Have them hold the bills tightly between their hands, and explain how you can "pickpocket" one of the bills. Show your back pocket empty, and with your hands clearly empty and visible the whole time, turn back around to reveal a bill. They open their hands and now have one less bill.
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Jan 19, 2014 12:06AM)
Jprace,
Great idea! I like it! Sort of a combination of concepts in the cards across and pocket bizarre.
KJ
Message: Posted by: Incognito (Jan 19, 2014 05:59AM)
This came in an email a lot of you probably received but maybe didn't watch yet. It's the other needed part of what Jeff is suggesting (which is a really good idea).

http://www.sansminds.com/trick-four
Message: Posted by: PHSIS (Jan 19, 2014 07:23AM)
For a really nice ungimmicked bill vanish from the spec's hands…check out the Revised Las Vegas Leaper in True Astonishments (don't know the exact name of the effect!)

Janet
Message: Posted by: barts185 (Jan 19, 2014 10:14AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-19 06:59, Incognito wrote:
This came in an email a lot of you probably received but maybe didn't watch yet. It's the other needed part of what Jeff is suggesting (which is a really good idea).

http://www.sansminds.com/trick-four


[/quote]

One thing that Will does, but doesn't actually point out (although I'm guessing a lot of people noticed), is that the second bill is reversed. This way, the folded over portion of the 3rd bill isn't the only one that is showing the opposite side of the bill.
Message: Posted by: jprace (Jan 19, 2014 11:16AM)
Another subtly on what Will is presenting:

Playing around with the orientations of the bills, you can show both sides of the unfolded bills, as the folded bill perfectly blends into the one behind it. Be careful, of course, of accidentally exposing that one edge has more/less bills than the other.

(On a side note, does anyone know if this originates with Will? I have been using something similar for a long time, and can't imagine it hasn't been done before.)
Message: Posted by: Illucifer (Jan 19, 2014 11:45AM)
Shhh, Janet! I want people to forget about that fantastic trick! :)

p.s. It's LVL$ and it was one of my first thoughts regarding this new apparatus from Peter and Paul (two disciples of magic).
Message: Posted by: M Pitcher (Jan 20, 2014 09:47AM)
Playing with this for a couple of days now and I totally LOVE it. The sudden appearance of their card in your pocket is so strong it'll hit them like the proverbial freight train. Easy to do, practical and instant reset so a worker all the way. Re the gimmicks I can see these last a lifetime.

Totally happy with my purchase :)


M P
Message: Posted by: Nikki78 (Jan 20, 2014 10:23AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-19 12:45, Illucifer wrote:
Shhh, Janet! I want people to forget about that fantastic trick! :)

p.s. It's LVL$ and it was one of my first thoughts regarding this new apparatus from Peter and Paul (two disciples of magic).
[/quote]

Oh yes, I LOVE this effect. The TA Box set is so beautiful. I use most of the effects...
Two thumbs up!
...and now back to topic :)

Cheers
Nikki
Message: Posted by: Peter Eggink (Jan 21, 2014 06:45PM)
Thanks for the great comments everybody...Also, great to see the creative juices flowing here on using Pocket Bizarre!

Feel free visit my booth at the upcoming Blackpool convention for a live demo -Looking forward to meet up ;)

Best,

Peter
Message: Posted by: Scott Horn (Jan 22, 2014 02:18PM)
Maybe a question already asked, but is there a need to have "loose" pockets, and / or pockets without cover flaps?
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Jan 22, 2014 03:40PM)
Scott,
No, no need for loose pockets.
KJ
Message: Posted by: Illucifer (Jan 22, 2014 04:42PM)
Having played with this a bit, for me, anyway, it just turns out to be too much pocket material to be of practical use. It's very clever and very well made and does very well precisely what it is designed to do as shown in the ads.

Personally, though, I don't like to be too 'rigged up' and concerned about the stuff in my pockets, so I suspect mine will be available to some lucky buyer soon.
Message: Posted by: MR Effecto (Jan 22, 2014 05:29PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-22 17:42, Illucifer wrote:
Having played with this a bit, for me, anyway, it just turns out to be too much pocket material to be of practical use. It's very clever and very well made and does very well precisely what it is designed to do as shown in the ads.

Personally, though, I don't like to be too 'rigged up' and concerned about the stuff in my pockets, so I suspect mine will be available to some lucky buyer soon.
[/quote] I got mine today and was thinking the same thing. I will keep mine because I do like it. I can use this for those times I like to do a one trick on someone
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Jan 23, 2014 10:14AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-22 17:42, Illucifer wrote:
Having played with this a bit, for me, anyway, it just turns out to be too much pocket material to be of practical use. It's very clever and very well made and does very well precisely what it is designed to do as shown in the ads.

Personally, though, I don't like to be too 'rigged up' and concerned about the stuff in my pockets, so I suspect mine will be available to some lucky buyer soon.
[/quote]

Yes, I am seeing that as well. However, I am still working on a solution to use this in my outside jacket breast pocket in a way that still frees up the pocket for other purposes and eliminates the other piece of the gimmick. With this modification, I can use this method with my hands and pockets as free as they were without this. I don't use a sharpie, nor do I go into any pockets for any reason at any time.

KJ
Message: Posted by: takel (Jan 23, 2014 12:52PM)
I am one of the lucky guys as I own this jewelry from the very beginning of the whole project,
Peter gave me one during the filming of Pocket Bizarre. As a gimmick engineer I really like this one.
I have add it to my repertoir and it gets great reactions every single time.
Yesterday I perform it to some fellow magicians and they have heard a lot about it but never seen it in action,
after seen it live they all want one!
Message: Posted by: Nikki78 (Jan 25, 2014 01:59PM)
Hi community,

I received mine on Friday, did the one time set-up this morning and after 15 minutes of practising I performed it for family members: they were stunned!
The gimmick is well made and seems to last for a long, long time and the DVD is also well produced.
It's full of in-depth training and Peter explains everything really, really good.

I'll give it 5/5 magic stars :D

Cheers
Nikki
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Jan 26, 2014 07:49AM)
That was fast that must have been 3 or 4 days at most, I'm glad you like it.

Be sure to check out the bonus page for extra ideas and tips.

I've been using this yesterday and today at gigs, I'm just sitting outside another now. I've come across another modification which should make this easier to use.

I'm going to try it later, no reason why it should not work.
Message: Posted by: M Pitcher (Jan 26, 2014 08:04AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-26 08:49, Saturn Magic wrote:
I've come across another modification which should make this easier to use.
[/quote]

Mark, are you referring to the breast pocket installation? I've found it already super easy to use the way it was designed and works beautifully.
I don't understand why people make such a big deal out of the jacket, I simply remove it and go into the revelation.

M P
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Jan 26, 2014 08:25AM)
No I've found the something else was moving and I have an idea how to keep it still.
Message: Posted by: Nikki78 (Jan 26, 2014 09:57AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-26 08:49, Saturn Magic wrote:
That was fast that must have been 3 or 4 days at most, I'm glad you like it.

Be sure to check out the bonus page for extra ideas and tips.

I've been using this yesterday and today at gigs, I'm just sitting outside another now. I've come across another modification which should make this easier to use.

I'm going to try it later, no reason why it should not work.
[/quote]

Yes, the delivery was really fast. Thanks again for the outstanding customer support :)

Cheers
Nikki
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Jan 26, 2014 01:45PM)
I've just tried the modification and it works great, so those that bought from us can log back in to see it.
Message: Posted by: M Pitcher (Jan 29, 2014 06:42AM)
This got a great review on the WPR this week! Have to say though that David didn't perform this properly. He P****d the signed card off to reveal it and was totally unnecessary. You don't have to do what he did in order to reveal their signed card. If you own the effect you know what I mean.

I'm blowing peoples minds with this. LOVE it.

M P
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jan 29, 2014 08:33PM)
I have only watched the DVD and haven't played with this prop yet.
But the DVD was really well done and I like the prop a lot.
It shows basic and more advanced versions and should get really good reactions.
Plus, the DVD actually played on my DVD player!!! So many times lately it seems like magic DVD's are not duplicated very well and won't play on most of my players, sometimes not even on a computer either.
For those that only speak English, this is not a big deal but a pleasant surprise was that Peter's English seems to have improved as well also. The last DVD I got of his was several years ago, and I had a bit of trouble understanding him in that one. But this one was no problem at all.

One thing worth mentioning is I think this would be a great prop for paid gigs. It you perform more casually for mainly family and friends, it can certainly still be done but there is some rigging up involved and that is something you probably wouldn't want to wear all the time ready to go. Not to say that you couldn't, but most would probably prefer not to I would guess.
For instance if you were at a dinner party with friends and you wished to perform this effect, you would likely want to make a quick visit to the restroom to prepare first before performing. But again, that depends on your personal preference, and also partly on what you would be wearing at the time. Also to be fair, with some thought and experimentation you could probably devise ways to allow yourself to have it set-up and not get in your way.

Also, if you do use the gimmick in your wallet, you cannot easily use that wallet for anything else. In fact, you cannot even remove your wallet from your pocket without a bit of effort. Fortunately the DVD does present a technique in which you could still have your wallet in your back pocket but have the gimmick inside another item in the same pocket and with some thought there are are probably a myriad of ways to work around using your wallet.

One last small quibble. The DVD shows a basic method where the selected card is not signed, but it still uses a Sharpie in the routine. It would seem odd to me to introduce a Sharpie but not use it (except as perhaps a magic wand or something???). Now with a little thinking there are no doubt many ways to get around this. I only mention it because usually when Paul Harris is involved with a product, little things such as this have usually been worked out. That seems to be what is usually the "Paul Harris touch" so I was kind of surprised that motivation for this wasn't provided. But then again, I have no idea how involved Paul was in the creative process, possibly not at all.
But one really nice thing about this prop is that it is really more like a utility device than a trick. I can see a lot of folks coming up with great ideas utilizing the basic principle in many unique ways.

Overall, I would give this high marks.
It's a good value for what you receive and a very workable and amazing effect. It is easy to do (in the basic handling) and seems like it would be a lot of fun to perform as well. It could easily fit in as an additional segment to many of your existing card effects, or be used stand alone equally well.
The prop is well thought out and very well made and with reasonable care should last a long time.
I think most purchasers will be quite pleased with their purchase.
Message: Posted by: Peter Eggink (Jan 30, 2014 03:59PM)
Thanks for the great review, Videoman. Glad you like it!

Regarding the sharpie motivation when doing the non-signed version: I didn't draw too much attention on this on the DVD itself...I casually place the sharpie down, have a card selected, vanish the card and then grab the deck and replace the sharpie as if you were intended to have their card signed but apparently decided not to. However, If you feel it needs more motivation, you have a couple of options: You can use it as a "magic wand" as suggested by yourself, or hand them the sharpie to "touch" a card from the spread as you don't want anyone to touch the card etc. and go from there.

@M Pitcher: I'm glad you're digging the effect! Just saw the WPR. I agree that Dave made it himself a bit too difficult in his performance...Originally it doesn't use a P**m as how we all know it...You don't have to be able to technically execute a P**m in ANY way in order to retrieve their signed card from your back pocket...Just wanted to be clear on this. Anyways, the appearance of the card in Dave's pocket was a GREAT magical moment!

Joy,

Peter
Message: Posted by: rasmus (Jan 30, 2014 07:04PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-30 16:59, Peter Eggink wrote:
Thanks for the great review, Videoman. Glad you like it!

Regarding the sharpie motivation when doing the non-signed version: I didn't draw too much attention on this on the DVD itself...I casually place the sharpie down, have a card selected, vanish the card and then grab the deck and replace the sharpie as if you were intended to have their card signed but apparently decided not to. However, If you feel it needs more motivation, you have a couple of options: You can use it as a "magic wand" as suggested by yourself, or hand them the sharpie to "touch" a card from the spread as you don't want anyone to touch the card etc. and go from there.

@M Pitcher: I'm glad you're digging the effect! Just saw the WPR. I agree that Dave made it himself a bit too difficult in his performance...Originally it doesn't use a P**m as how we all know it...You don't have to be able to technically execute a P**m in ANY way in order to retrieve their signed card from your back pocket...Just wanted to be clear on this. Anyways, the appearance of the card in Dave's pocket was a GREAT magical moment!

Joy,

Peter



[/quote]



awesome

so no palm is needed to retrieve their signed card? so that means, that everyone that has no
skills to palm off a card can do the signed card version?

sounds wonderful. that means, I will probably pick this up:)

congrats for this wonderful release peter!
Message: Posted by: Illucifer (Jan 30, 2014 07:22PM)
No palming necessary, though it can certainly be employed if you are comfortable doing it (something I highly recommend simply because it's such an immensely powerful weapon against your spectators, who must be destroyed).
Message: Posted by: M Pitcher (Feb 3, 2014 12:20PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-30 20:22, Illucifer wrote:
No palming necessary, though it can certainly be employed if you are comfortable doing it (something I highly recommend simply because it's such an immensely powerful weapon against your spectators, who must be destroyed).

[/quote]

Sure. But why use a palm here? The choreography peter designed is beautiful. Even better than a palm and more safe if you will.
Message: Posted by: Illucifer (Feb 3, 2014 03:12PM)
Sorry for the confusion. I didn't mean it should necessarily be used with this at all. I only meant to say that one should learn good palming technique and store it in his/her arsenal. It is extremely powerful.That is, don't let things like this dissuade you from learning to palm well.
Message: Posted by: videoman (Feb 4, 2014 02:00AM)
I think this whole "palm vs. no palm" may be misleading to those unaware of what exactly is being discussed.
I consider the method used by Peter to be a palm, or at least a variation of a palm. Kind of a basic and easy beginner's palm.
Maybe a "body-assisted palm" perhaps?

But to say that no palm is required is misleading although it may be technically correct.
If you were selling a card to wallet using this method, would it be fair to state that no palm is required?
Once you say that no palm is required, people assume it uses an entirely different method altogether, but the reality is that you are just using linguistics rather than a completely different method to accomplish the task IMHO.
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Feb 4, 2014 03:43AM)
I've been using this quite a lot of late and found another idea to make setting up and transferring a little easier.

I've updated the bonus page on our website for our customers.

http://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/new-magic/pocket-bizarre-by-peter-eggink-paul-harris-presents.html
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Feb 11, 2014 09:17AM)
The bonus page has been updated again with a new tip.
Message: Posted by: Illucifer (Feb 12, 2014 07:55AM)
Peter, I sent you an email with a specific query.
Message: Posted by: Scott Horn (Feb 12, 2014 01:10PM)
I hope this hasnt been addressed and I just missed it, but are there restricitons regarding the pocket fit, meaning do they have to be loose or have a particularly wide opening?
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Feb 12, 2014 02:05PM)
Not really Scott as long as your pocket is open at the top and is wide enough to get a deck of cards in you are good to go.

It is not actually the same size a deck I just used that as an example.
Message: Posted by: Illucifer (Feb 12, 2014 04:42PM)
Hey, I just want to give Peter a big thumbs up here in the forum. I used up all of a certain something whilst working to get it just right and when I wrote to inquire about details so I could purchase more locally, he offered to simply send me some more.

Thanks, Peter! Great customer service!
Message: Posted by: Superjon (Feb 13, 2014 03:26AM)
HI I just wanted to add my review for this item.

Using it in normal jeans its useless without a wallet as TALL as your pocket. I don't have a wallet that Big.

The effect is good.. but for me that's where it ends.. I don't like the setup. I don't like the way you need to have a wallet that has to fill the entire back pcket it terms of height.

Effect 9/10

Setup 6/10

I wont use this as I am not carrying around multiple wallets with a special LARGE one for this Trick.
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Feb 13, 2014 04:18AM)
Peter does show how to set this up without a wallet in your pocket which does work when you have a wallet in there as well.

I have a set up that is adjustable to your pocket depth so the whole thing can be moved from one set of jeans or trousers to another.

It's really quite easy if you think about it.
Message: Posted by: EddieM (Feb 13, 2014 11:12AM)
I posted this over in another thread, but wanted to share it with you here. I think a good effect to pair up with Pocket Bizarre would be The Switch by Shin Lim: http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/-18047.html

For example, you can start off by taking the mystery card from The Switch, put it on the table, and tell the spectator to put their hand over it...."we will get to that Mystery Card later."

You can then go into a performance of Pocket Bizarre, where a randomly chosen and signed card visually shows up in your back pocket. Finally, end it with the switch, where you take that card from your pocket, vanish it, and then show that their signed card has been underneath their hand the entire time.

I love when you can combine two or more effects to make a more complete routine....and Pocket Bizarre has so many applications. I just wanted to share that idea here for you guys, since I plan on working those both together in my act.
Message: Posted by: Steve Hook (Feb 13, 2014 03:54PM)
[quote]
On 2014-02-13 12:12, EddieM wrote:

...you can start off by taking the mystery card from The Switch, put it on the table, and tell the spectator to put their hand over it...."we will get to that Mystery Card later."

You can then go into a performance of Pocket Bizarre, where a randomly chosen and signed card visually shows up in your back pocket. Finally, end it with the switch, where you take that card from your pocket, vanish it, and then show that their signed card has been underneath their hand the entire time.

I love when you can combine two or more effects to make a more complete routine....and Pocket Bizarre has so many applications. I just wanted to share that idea here for you guys, since I plan on working those both together in my act.
[/quote]

Holy smokes!

To paraphrase Dai Vernon, "Confusion does not make for good magic."
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Feb 13, 2014 04:09PM)
[quote]
On 2014-02-13 12:12, EddieM wrote:
I posted this over in another thread, but wanted to share it with you here. I think a good effect to pair up with Pocket Bizarre would be The Switch by Shin Lim: http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/-18047.html

For example, you can start off by taking the mystery card from The Switch, put it on the table, and tell the spectator to put their hand over it...."we will get to that Mystery Card later."

You can then go into a performance of Pocket Bizarre, where a randomly chosen and signed card visually shows up in your back pocket. Finally, end it with the switch, where you take that card from your pocket, vanish it, and then show that their signed card has been underneath their hand the entire time.

I love when you can combine two or more effects to make a more complete routine....and Pocket Bizarre has so many applications. I just wanted to share that idea here for you guys, since I plan on working those both together in my act.
[/quote]

I have been doing a similar thing it's not confusion just using the same card as part of your act.

I do Haunted 2.0 first, the follow on with another effect with the same card.

Ones I have been using are Pocket Bizarre, Threek and The Box.

I'm liking The switch a lot so will no doubt include that at as well.

On topic on Pocket Bizarre this is something you have to do to realise how impossible it is, one moment your pocket is empty the next the card is there!

Our bonus pages are now updated and have quite a few tips on how to use this and make it very easy to set up.
Message: Posted by: videoman (Feb 13, 2014 07:36PM)
[quote]
On 2014-02-13 17:09, Saturn UK wrote:


On topic on Pocket Bizarre this is something you have to do to realise how impossible it is, one moment your pocket is empty the next the card is there!

Our bonus pages are now updated and have quite a few tips on how to use this and make it very easy to set up.

[/quote]

Mark is right about that aspect. There is almost like a feeling that the signed card not only appeared in an impossible location but it somehow rose up out of your pocket as well. They don't actually see it rise but there is an almost implied feeling like that is what happened. In the same vein, it doesn't actually visibly appear either but sure seems like it does and I think that is what specs will remember.

Because its such a brief moment, it's not there, then boom, it's there, with no hands coming near.

It just has a completely different look and feeling to this than simply pulling a card out of your pocket, or even out of your wallet. Like Mark said, hard to fully realize unless you do it. Very magical looking. One of those things you can fool yourself with.
Message: Posted by: Dondestan (Mar 10, 2014 08:01PM)
LOL @ the last line of the demo - "Works with any size buttocks"

Who wants to do the research on confirming that demo claim? :goof:

Kenn
Message: Posted by: Scott Horn (Mar 14, 2014 02:07PM)
A few more questions... but I'm not looking to divulge any "meaningful" secrets...

Regarding the need to utilize 2 pockets... do they need to be in the same article of clothing? In other works, could I use the rear pants pocket for the revelation, and a vest pocket for the other, or do both need to be pants pockets?

If it can be 2 separate articles of clothing, can I remove one, put it back on, and maintain whatever the set up is? For example, could I be set up, take off the vest, put it back on, and perform the effect?

Lastly, can I sit down if I am set up using 2 pants pockets, or do you need to remain standing once set up?

If commenting on this divulges too much, then disregard