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Topic: Card toon
Message: Posted by: Harry Patter (Jan 11, 2014 01:38AM)
Does anyone use card toon? I'm wondering what sort of reactions it gets in a walk around environment?
Message: Posted by: Blindside785 (Jan 11, 2014 02:17AM)
A local restaurant magician did card-toon for my girlfriend and I. My girlfriend who has seen a lot of magic from me loved it, that says a lot.

It's good stuff!
Message: Posted by: AdamChance (Jan 11, 2014 10:05AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-11 02:38, Harry Patter wrote:
Does anyone use card toon? I'm wondering what sort of reactions it gets in a walk around environment?
[/quote]

I recently found my old deck from when I was 12 years old. haven't had a chance to do it for anyone yet... but I put it in my magic case.

my guess is that it's not the most mind blowing effect... but it's an enjoyable effect none the less.
Message: Posted by: Shawn D (Jan 11, 2014 05:19PM)
Fun
Easy to do
Great reaction.
I do cartoon 2 though.
Message: Posted by: alexander_may (Jan 13, 2014 12:04AM)
I only do one card effect in my set when I do tables, and it is Card-toon. You can't go wrong with it.
Message: Posted by: MeetMagicMike (Jan 13, 2014 11:22PM)
Yep. It's charming and people love it. But it's not too hard for a very logical person to figure it out. I would do it as part of set to keep things moving. I'm always ready to follow it with something like the invisible deck. Once in a while when someone indicates they know how it is done I let them know that that was just a fun trick and now we're going to do the real stuff.

Don't get me wrong. I'm NOT saying most or even a lot of people figure it out. But they do occasionally. No one ever figures out the invisible deck.
Message: Posted by: trickychaz (Jan 18, 2014 01:53PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-14 00:22, MeetMagicMike wrote:
Yep. It's charming and people love it. But it's not too hard for a very logical person to figure it out. I would do it as part of set to keep things moving. I'm always ready to follow it with something like the invisible deck. Once in a while when someone indicates they know how it is done I let them know that that was just a fun trick and now we're going to do the real stuff.

Don't get me wrong. I'm NOT saying most or even a lot of people figure it out. But they do occasionally. No one ever figures out the invisible deck.
[/quote]

Really? I have never got this reaction from cardtoon. Do you begin the trick by showing the top three cards & that his arm moves each time? It always gets good reactions for me.
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (Jan 18, 2014 02:07PM)
I use Cardtoon all the time in my table hopping. It gets great reactions from the entire family. They will OFTEN say can you do it again with a different card? I tell them to come back next week and I'll be happy to.:)
Message: Posted by: budja (Apr 7, 2014 01:02PM)
There is an easy way of resetting it and the impact is really strong if you do it a second time and the card is different.
Message: Posted by: Montana76 (Apr 11, 2014 06:46AM)
The funniest thing is when they say HEEEEY! THOSE ARE SPECIAL CARDS!! and you just reply with "OF COURSE! Have you ever SEEN cards like this??"
Message: Posted by: danfreed (Apr 11, 2014 11:53AM)
I do both versions, it's great. Dan Harlan had a free how-to video that shows how to do it, not sure how to find the video. He also had a template you could buy to make your own
Message: Posted by: DanHarlan (Apr 13, 2014 10:57AM)
Card-Toon always gets a great reaction (even from people who don't like card tricks) regardless of age!
I'm not just saying that because I invented it. And I don't make a dime off it anymore... sold the rights years ago.
Oh, and lately I've been closing some of my STAGE shows with it... ever since I saw Jamie Allan do it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9y9DQo3NXo
--Harlan
Message: Posted by: Tony Iacoviello (Apr 13, 2014 04:33PM)
That was great!
I can see myself doing Fart-Toon that way. ;)
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Apr 13, 2014 09:47PM)
We sold hundreds of them at Magic Inc back when they came out.

I like the idea because it is quite obviously a special deck. No worry about getting it in and out. It is the only trick with one use that I think is worth the trouble.
Message: Posted by: mrsmiles (Apr 17, 2014 11:55AM)
I've cracked open Cardtoon recently having owned it for some years yet only played with it at home once or twice, put it in the drawer and forgot about it. Not sure why I put it away without really using it but I have now used it at paying gigs a few times recently and I am happy to report that it really is superb. A marvellous, pure fun routine. (Very interested to see the stage version incidentaly). Wonderful to read Dan's post on this, and to see Danny Doyle, who sets very high standards, say it is worth the trouble is an endorsement indeed. I would have no hesitation in recommending this trick to anyone who is thinking about bringing it into their set.
Message: Posted by: Quentin (Apr 17, 2014 02:44PM)
Juan Tamariz has a go. In Spanish but you will be able to follow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79KPoAUeYU8
Message: Posted by: Seance Medium (Apr 17, 2014 04:05PM)
It's soooo good, my first deck had a blow out and I bought a second deck (Cardtoon 1.) I consider it one of my top routines. It's great for walk around, you only have to find a place to put the chosen card in view, the rest is in your hands.
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Apr 17, 2014 05:51PM)
The only real problem is sight lines, and I don't mean a "problem" but more issue.
Message: Posted by: General_Magician (Apr 17, 2014 11:06PM)
They are out of stock for this particular trick at Penguin Magic. Anybody have suggestions as to where I can purchase this trick from a reputable dealer?
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Apr 18, 2014 12:05AM)
Midwest Magic in Franklin Park Illinois. VERY reputable and I bet Tim has one. A FANTASTIC magic shop.
Message: Posted by: w_s_anderson (Apr 18, 2014 12:53AM)
I have and use all three versions! They are great!!
Message: Posted by: General_Magician (Apr 18, 2014 01:22AM)
[quote]On Apr 18, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote:
Midwest Magic in Franklin Park Illinois. VERY reputable and I bet Tim has one. A FANTASTIC magic shop. [/quote]

Thank you Danny, much appreciated! How have you been?
Message: Posted by: Hansel (Apr 18, 2014 02:09AM)
Cardtoon has everything you want in a strolling card trick.
-Easy to do.
-The person names a card (not a pick a card trick).
-Easy to understand.
-Visual.
-Strong.
-Instant Reset.
I use it in my professional repertoire since I get
It !
Message: Posted by: General_Magician (Apr 18, 2014 09:41PM)
[quote]On Apr 13, 2014, DanHarlan wrote:
Card-Toon always gets a great reaction (even from people who don't like card tricks) regardless of age!
I'm not just saying that because I invented it. And I don't make a dime off it anymore... sold the rights years ago.
Oh, and lately I've been closing some of my STAGE shows with it... ever since I saw Jamie Allan do it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9y9DQo3NXo
--Harlan [/quote]

That was pretty good! Have no idea how the guy did it! I can't see how people can figure that trick out!
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Apr 18, 2014 11:09PM)
That is a very smooth handling of it.
Message: Posted by: General_Magician (Apr 18, 2014 11:26PM)
[quote]On Apr 19, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote:
That is a very smooth handling of it. [/quote]

Is it pretty tough to master the handling to where it's this smooth?
Message: Posted by: w_s_anderson (Apr 19, 2014 12:54AM)
GM, the handling in the routine is super smooth. You will be performing it the day you get it.
Message: Posted by: General_Magician (Apr 19, 2014 08:12AM)
[quote]On Apr 19, 2014, w_s_anderson wrote:
GM, the handling in the routine is super smooth. You will be performing it the day you get it. [/quote]

I really liked the performer's showmanship and the way he presented the trick to such a large audience. His stage presence and performance was impressive.
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Apr 19, 2014 11:14AM)
It is not that difficult. But by the same token it is easy to make it look like you are doing something. The temptation is to just run out and do it. Avoid that.
Message: Posted by: General_Magician (Apr 19, 2014 10:45PM)
[quote]On Apr 19, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote:
It is not that difficult. But by the same token it is easy to make it look like you are doing something. The temptation is to just run out and do it. Avoid that. [/quote]


That was a good recommendation on the Magic Shop. It seems this particular shop has a lot to offer with an excellent selection.
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Apr 20, 2014 12:10AM)
Tim Felix owns it and is just a great person. That shop is A+ in my estimation, and so is Tim. Can't go wrong with buying there.
Message: Posted by: General_Magician (Apr 20, 2014 12:25AM)
[quote]On Apr 20, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote:
Tim Felix owns it and is just a great person. That shop is A+ in my estimation, and so is Tim. Can't go wrong with buying there. [/quote]

I plan to start giving him some of my business. Thanks once again for your recommendation.
Message: Posted by: magicshayne (Apr 24, 2014 02:02AM)
It's a great effect and does get great reactions from the audience, If you perform a lit and your cards wear out quick like mine just get a new deck and cut everything out with knife, You will have a nice stencil to use on the other cards
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Apr 26, 2014 07:09PM)
Or you could buy another one instead of ripping off the creator. Not cool man.
Message: Posted by: writeall (Apr 27, 2014 12:31PM)
[quote]On Apr 26, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote:
Or you could buy another one instead of ripping off the creator. Not cool man. [/quote]

Is it ripping off the creator if you've already purchased it once? I shudder to think how much that would run if we were talking about replacing thread in a reel or something...

Just recently, I replaced the cards in Standup Monte with DFs I had "in stock." Was I wrong to do so?
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Apr 27, 2014 08:02PM)
Yea when you stencil the cards it is ripping off the creator. If you don't see the difference in that and a reel nothing I can say will make a difference.
Message: Posted by: AKMan (Apr 28, 2014 09:30PM)
Which one should I use? #1 or #2?
Message: Posted by: Countage (Apr 28, 2014 09:46PM)
If you had all three versions you could pull a different one out as go from table to table or group to group in strolling. Or pull a different one out if you see someone who wants to see you perform the trick again.
Message: Posted by: JustCraig (Apr 29, 2014 02:02AM)
[quote]On Apr 28, 2014, Countage wrote:
If you had all three versions you could pull a different one out as go from table to table or group to group in strolling. Or pull a different one out if you see someone who wants to see you perform the trick again. [/quote]

that's a lot of decks to carry around in a strolling situation for one trick"
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Apr 29, 2014 09:54AM)
It also amounts to running when nobody is chasing you. That trick specifically you don't have to worry about people seeing it from afar.
Message: Posted by: writeall (Apr 30, 2014 01:42PM)
[quote]On Apr 27, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote:
Yea when you stencil the cards it is ripping off the creator. If you don't see the difference in that and a reel nothing I can say will make a difference. [/quote]

So it's the stencil part that crosses the line? Someone making their own artwork for a replacement deck would be OK?

I don't think I'm alone in making new props after I've once purchased something. It's a common enough question here on the Café. People often ask about replacing/repairing or remaking a prop. And let's face it, every prop has a lifespan and will need to be swapped out at some point. Heck, there's no shortage of things that aren't even manufactured anymore. We even have a section on this forum for DIY. It's almost a tradtion in magic, and I admit to getting no small measure of satisfaction using something I've put together myself.

Pardon me if this sounds like argument for argument's sake, but I really do value your opinion on this - you have cred I lack and actually hire magicians. So your take on this matters to me.
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Apr 30, 2014 03:32PM)
Where is the line for you then? Arguement for arguement sake? Hardly.

At what point do you consider it theft?

LOTS of crap in the magic community, and specifically here on the Café' that are considered "tradition" are really pretty shady.
Message: Posted by: writeall (Apr 30, 2014 08:51PM)
When I purchase an effect, I think I am purchasing the right to replace it when it wears out or customize it - either of which might mean I make my own from materials I purchase myself. (This would be for my own use.) I mentioned Stand-up Monte as an example. My cards were looking shoddy and I made a new set from a DF deck I already had. I fully agree there are intellectual property rights, but those I've already bought.

Honestly, I'm willing to rethink it. It just hadn't occurred to me that making a replacement for a purchased item was unethical.
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Apr 30, 2014 09:55PM)
How would you feel about it if you created it? I bet a bit differently.

I am not saying anyone has to change any way they think. I am not saying anyone is wrong. But if you ever wonder why products cost so much....maybe we have reached some cause and effect on some level.
Message: Posted by: General_Magician (Apr 30, 2014 10:26PM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote:
How would you feel about it if you created it? I bet a bit differently.

I am not saying anyone has to change any way they think. I am not saying anyone is wrong. But if you ever wonder why products cost so much....maybe we have reached some cause and effect on some level. [/quote]

Ha! I bought cardtoon from the place you recommended! Can't wait to practice, master and perform it! I hope this will be an awesome trick that people will love!
Message: Posted by: dirtyfoucault (Jan 27, 2021 10:17AM)
Just received my first ever Card-Toon deck! Noticed the card stock is pretty terrible. Isn't it supposed to be printed by USPCC now? Thought I'd read a post from Dan that suggested they'd switched from CartaMundi years ago. Mine is Cartamundi and also lacking in instructions (are they normally printed or video?). Have I been sold a dodgy copy?
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Jan 27, 2021 10:34AM)
Where did you purchase it and for how much?
Message: Posted by: dirtyfoucault (Jan 27, 2021 12:17PM)
[quote]On Jan 27, 2021, Dannydoyle wrote:
Where did you purchase it and for how much? [/quote]

Amazon. £11.99
Message: Posted by: MeetMagicMike (Jan 27, 2021 05:51PM)
I had the original release and the later release on Bicycle. They were both good card stock.
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Jan 27, 2021 06:38PM)
[quote]On Jan 27, 2021, dirtyfoucault wrote:
[quote]On Jan 27, 2021, Dannydoyle wrote:
Where did you purchase it and for how much? [/quote]

Amazon. £11.99 [/quote]

Yea but from whom on Amazon? It might very well be a knock off despite being from Amazon.
Message: Posted by: dirtyfoucault (Jan 28, 2021 04:38AM)
[quote]On Jan 27, 2021, Dannydoyle wrote:
[quote]On Jan 27, 2021, dirtyfoucault wrote:
[quote]On Jan 27, 2021, Dannydoyle wrote:
Where did you purchase it and for how much? [/quote]

Amazon. £11.99 [/quote]

Yea but from whom on Amazon? It might very well be a knock off despite being from Amazon. [/quote]

Dude that's cool magic. Relatively reputable
Message: Posted by: MeetMagicMike (Jan 28, 2021 12:54PM)
"dude that's cool magic. Relatively reputable"

Could you translate?
Message: Posted by: dirtyfoucault (Jan 28, 2021 01:50PM)
[quote]On Jan 28, 2021, MeetMagicMike wrote:
"dude that's cool magic. Relatively reputable"

Could you translate? [/quote]

http://www.dudethatscoolmagic.co.uk/

What would you like me to translate?
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Jan 28, 2021 02:51PM)
The words "relatively reputable".

Either you are or you are not reputable.
Message: Posted by: dirtyfoucault (Jan 28, 2021 03:36PM)
[quote]On Jan 28, 2021, Dannydoyle wrote:
The words "relatively reputable".

Either you are or you are not reputable. [/quote]

Everything's relative
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Jan 28, 2021 05:03PM)
Also I do not think he knew the name of the place was "Dudethatscoolmagic". It came across as more of a sentence to those of us who do not know that.

And no everything is not relative.
Message: Posted by: dirtyfoucault (Jan 28, 2021 07:20PM)
[quote]On Jan 28, 2021, Dannydoyle wrote:
Also I do not think he knew the name of the place was "Dudethatscoolmagic". It came across as more of a sentence to those of us who do not know that.

And no everything is not relative. [/quote].

Ok. Thanks for your help.
Message: Posted by: Kaliix (Jan 29, 2021 12:27PM)
[quote]On Jan 28, 2021, Dannydoyle wrote:

And no everything is not relative. [/quote]

I really think that depends...
Message: Posted by: dirtyfoucault (Jan 29, 2021 05:42PM)
[quote]On Jan 29, 2021, Kaliix wrote:
[quote]On Jan 28, 2021, Dannydoyle wrote:

And no everything is not relative. [/quote]

I really think that depends... [/quote]

Absolutely. I'm relatively certain of it.