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Topic: Would you go to the Sochi Winter Olympics.
Message: Posted by: acesover (Jan 15, 2014 10:07AM)
With all the threats of terrorism. Would you go to the Sochi Winter Olympics on a vacation for the games?

I do not believe I could enjoy myself there at this time.
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Jan 15, 2014 10:36AM)
I'm not afraid of terrorism, no.

But I have little appreciation of winter sports. The upcoming threads will probably not include me, unless we're talkng about ice-skating crotch shots.

But hey, it's a Canadian thing to get upset about it. We Americans aren't ashamed about where we're looking.

Except for me. I just don't bother to watch. I can read the newspaper.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/2013/03/18/teenager_skaters_photograph_explodes_in_controversy.html
Message: Posted by: Marlin1894 (Jan 15, 2014 10:40AM)
Lol!
Message: Posted by: critter (Jan 15, 2014 11:12AM)
I have no interest in supporting Putin's economy. The pocketbook is the only place where it's possible to make a statement that he might notice.
Message: Posted by: acesover (Jan 15, 2014 11:13AM)
Well if I were going to go it would be with my family and I just would not feel comfortable putting them and myself in what I feel is harms way. Probably just being to cautious.

Not being paranoid, but after Nam and being surrounded by those who were trying to kill me is enough. Not saying I would be surrounded at the Olympics by those trying to kill me. But it would be something for those to kill a bunch of innocent people who are gathered somewhere in order to enjoy themselves. It would rival "nine eleven" if they accomplish such an act. They know the Olympics will garner world wide attention. What better place for such an act? Nothing like slaughtering innocent people including women and children to show how dedicated they are at a would wide event such as the Olympics where the whole world gathers. Showing how they can strike anywhere at any time.

I guess in some way they have already succeeded as they put such thoughts into peoples mind such as myself. I hope it goes off without a single incident except stunning performances for the participants and those watching.

For those of you who go...ENJOY.
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Jan 15, 2014 11:47AM)
My favorite event in winter sports is the biathlon. Dudes and dudesses ski around until they can't hardly breathe, then they shoot. No crotch shots, but still cool. Try to shoot when you can hardly breathe!

Oh, I forgot: this thread has a subject. Terrorism or something. As in: some biathlon dude or dudess goes nuts and starts shooting into the crowd!

It could happen!

Here's Germany's star biathlete:

[img]http://www.y-style.de/uploads/tx_templavoila/AUF-Mey.jpg[/img]
Message: Posted by: Marlin1894 (Jan 15, 2014 11:55AM)
[img]http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/547/i2c6.jpg[/img]
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Jan 15, 2014 12:02PM)
LOL!
Message: Posted by: Marlin1894 (Jan 15, 2014 12:22PM)
Poor Chancellor Merkel won't be able to throw those high kicks anymore since she broke her pelvis (which I heard happened while secretly training for the biathalon). She's quite a gal!
Message: Posted by: S2000magician (Jan 15, 2014 01:05PM)
Not on a dare.
Message: Posted by: balducci (Jan 15, 2014 01:17PM)
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On 2014-01-15 11:07, acesover wrote:

With all the threats of terrorism. Would you go to the Sochi Winter Olympics on a vacation for the games?
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I have no desire to go to Sochi, period. Too far, too expensive, sounds / looks unappealing. The threats of terrorism don't even enter into it.
Message: Posted by: Mary Mowder (Jan 15, 2014 02:07PM)
I have an aversion to cold (even in America) and anti-gay laws.
I also have a problem with murdering reporters.
I have a problem with Putin but not the Russian People.

If I had the Money I'd go to FISM.

-Mary Mowder
Message: Posted by: acesover (Jan 15, 2014 07:18PM)
Well it sounds like no one will be there but the atheletes. :)
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Jan 15, 2014 08:29PM)
I hope that each time a Russian wins a gold medal, Nikolai Volkoff sings their national anthem...

Viz:

http://youtu.be/3TVU-sjy5_4?t=31s

That would be *SO* great.
Message: Posted by: critter (Jan 15, 2014 08:30PM)
Mary, I have the same feelings. I also feel similarly about Iran- some amazing people with a lousy government.
Message: Posted by: motown (Jan 15, 2014 09:51PM)
I love the Winter Olympics, but would have no interest in seeing them in Russia. Terrorism has nothing to to with it.
Message: Posted by: slowkneenuh (Jan 15, 2014 09:58PM)
A trip to Russia is on my bucket list and the Winter Olympics are a nice additional touch, but I have bad feelings about this event and will not go.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Jan 15, 2014 11:12PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-15 21:29, Chessmann wrote:
I hope that each time a Russian wins a gold medal, Nikolai Volkoff sings their national anthem...

Viz:

http://youtu.be/3TVU-sjy5_4?t=31s

That would be *SO* great.
[/quote]

Now that is just silly. Yes it would be great!
Message: Posted by: tommy (Jan 15, 2014 11:18PM)
Since the West has been supporting our avowed enemies Russia since 1917 then I don't see why we should stop now just short of the hundred year mark and since when did stop supporting terrorists?
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Jan 15, 2014 11:22PM)
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On 2014-01-16 00:18, tommy wrote:
since when did stop supporting terrorists?
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Not all of them. Just the ones that threaten our business interests.
Message: Posted by: tommy (Jan 15, 2014 11:43PM)
Terrorist Olympic Games would be cool. They could have a dodge the drone Olympic village, a suicide bomb relay event and underwater synchronised ocean swimming.
Message: Posted by: critter (Jan 15, 2014 11:48PM)
Sorry to be all Godwiny or whatever, but this kind of reminds me of something that happened before...
[img]http://cdn.theatlanticcities.com/img/upload/2012/08/10/1-1936Olympics_1/largest.jpg[/img]
Message: Posted by: tommy (Jan 15, 2014 11:55PM)
I vonder where the gold, siver and bronze came from.
Message: Posted by: critter (Jan 16, 2014 12:48AM)
Mines.
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Jan 16, 2014 12:50AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-16 00:48, critter wrote:
Sorry to be all Godwiny or whatever, but this kind of reminds me of something that happened before...
[img]http://cdn.theatlanticcities.com/img/upload/2012/08/10/1-1936Olympics_1/largest.jpg[/img]
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Settle down, Quixote. Putin's got a ways to go before approaching Hitlerhood!
Message: Posted by: Destiny (Jan 16, 2014 05:43AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-16 01:50, Chessmann wrote:
[quote]
On 2014-01-16 00:48, critter wrote:
Sorry to be all Godwiny or whatever, but this kind of reminds me of something that happened before...
[img]http://cdn.theatlanticcities.com/img/upload/2012/08/10/1-1936Olympics_1/largest.jpg[/img]
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Settle down, Quixote. Putin's got a ways to go before approaching Hitlerhood!
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Murdering opponents and journalists is a pretty good start.

Not to mention subverting the intention of the constitution by keeping the leadership of the nation in his own hands.

But as far as the event itself goes I'd never heard of Sochi before these games. Is the separatist movement a recent phenomena there, or were they aware of the potential for trouble when they awarded the games?
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Jan 16, 2014 09:00AM)
Clearly the purpose of the Olympic Games is lost on much of modern society. I can sum it up pretty easily. I know someone who was a driver for the games in LA so very many years ago. She would pick up rather young foreign girls and take them to their events. One day, driving a girl back to the compound where the athletes stayed the 15 year log girl, in broken English says, "want to see something cool?" My friend says "Sure"...

The girl unzips her warm-up jacket and flashes the medal she had won just an hour before. The pride of a dream strived for to be the best in the world on that day!
Message: Posted by: tommy (Jan 16, 2014 09:07AM)
No **** Sherlock.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Jan 16, 2014 09:50AM)
The only Olymnpics I attended was 1988 in Calgary. A buddy had tickets for a hockey game, so I drove down for the game, with the plan of returning home the next day. The city was absolutely electric. The streets were crowded with people from all over the world, just hanging out, enjoying the atmosphere and sharing company together. I immediately regretted that I was only down for the game and that I hadn't taken more time off work. Even without going to the events, being in an Olympic city was absolutely magnificent.

The winter Olympics have a nice advantage over the summer Olympics in that they tend to be in smaller cities (Calgary and Vancouver are uncharacteristically large for the games). Seems to me that winter Olympic cities are more exciting communities than the summer hosts because they take over everything.

Yeah, I'd go to Sochi.
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Jan 16, 2014 10:31AM)
I was at Atlanta and Barcelona and Sydney. Each time working for sponsors.

I will tell you that the athletes compete for pride. For reasons well beyond any government spats happening at any point in history.
Message: Posted by: acesover (Jan 16, 2014 10:33AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-16 10:00, Tom Cutts wrote:
Clearly the purpose of the Olympic Games is lost on much of modern society. I can sum it up pretty easily. I know someone who was a driver for the games in LA so very many years ago. She would pick up rather young foreign girls and take them to their events. One day, driving a girl back to the compound where the athletes stayed the 15 year log girl, in broken English says, "want to see something cool?" My friend says "Sure"...

The girl unzips her warm-up jacket and flashes the medal she had won just an hour before. The pride of a dream strived for to be the best in the world on that day!
[/quote]

I really thought this was going to be X rated when I first started to read it. :)
Message: Posted by: landmark (Jan 16, 2014 10:47AM)
Aces pretends he's not going, but I suspect he's got a side trip to visit Pussy Riot. ;)
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Jan 16, 2014 10:51AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-16 00:48, critter wrote:
Sorry to be all Godwiny or whatever, but this kind of reminds me of something that happened before...
[img]http://cdn.theatlanticcities.com/img/upload/2012/08/10/1-1936Olympics_1/largest.jpg[/img]
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Poor guy couldn't even walk through the front doors of hotels or choose his own seat on a bus when he got home.
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Jan 16, 2014 10:53AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-16 11:51, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
[quote]
On 2014-01-16 00:48, critter wrote:
Sorry to be all Godwiny or whatever, but this kind of reminds me of something that happened before...
[img]http://cdn.theatlanticcities.com/img/upload/2012/08/10/1-1936Olympics_1/largest.jpg[/img]
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Poor guy couldn't even walk through the front doors of hotels or choose his own seat on a bus when he got home.
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Much later (after Rome, 1960) Muhammad Ali couldn't get served in a restaurant upon his return.

Which is why his gold medal (if there's anything left of it) is at the bottom of the Ohio River.
Message: Posted by: Marlin1894 (Jan 16, 2014 11:13AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-16 11:53, LobowolfXXX wrote:

Which is why his gold medal (if there's anything left of it) is at the bottom of the Ohio River.
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“Honkies sure bought into that one.” - Bundini Brown
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Jan 16, 2014 11:19AM)
Ahhhhhh, man. Thwarted by my race yet again.
Message: Posted by: Marlin1894 (Jan 16, 2014 11:20AM)
Ha!
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Jan 16, 2014 11:38AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-16 12:13, Marlin1894 wrote:
[quote]
On 2014-01-16 11:53, LobowolfXXX wrote:

Which is why his gold medal (if there's anything left of it) is at the bottom of the Ohio River.
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“Honkies sure bought into that one.” - Bundini Brown
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So now he's got 2 of them?!?!? IIRC, he received another medal not terribly long ago as a replacement for the (ahem) lost gold medal.

***Edit: nevermind, found the story.

In any case, tomorrow is his birthday!
Message: Posted by: acesover (Jan 16, 2014 02:16PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-16 11:47, landmark wrote:
Aces pretends he's not going, but I suspect he's got a side trip to visit Pussy Riot. ;)
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OMG...you got me...:)
Message: Posted by: balducci (Jan 16, 2014 02:28PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-16 11:53, LobowolfXXX wrote:

Which is why his gold medal (if there's anything left of it) is at the bottom of the Ohio River.
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Was it?

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20100830/ALI/308300041/Was-medal-thrown-river-Tales-still-vary
Message: Posted by: critter (Jan 16, 2014 03:37PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-16 11:51, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
[quote]
On 2014-01-16 00:48, critter wrote:
Sorry to be all Godwiny or whatever, but this kind of reminds me of something that happened before...
[img]http://cdn.theatlanticcities.com/img/upload/2012/08/10/1-1936Olympics_1/largest.jpg[/img]
[/quote]

Poor guy couldn't even walk through the front doors of hotels or choose his own seat on a bus when he got home.
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Which is still similar to now. Russia has all of these homophobic and misogynistic policies and those same things are institutionalized here on many levels. But look at how far we've come with human rights since WWII, and we're still making progress. Nothing changes if no one takes a stand. Whatever anyone wants to say about those girls from cervix cacophony, they didn't back down.
Message: Posted by: FrostyFeet (Jan 16, 2014 03:41PM)
I dunno I love winter sports so I would go. It said that they have extreme security measures there but even without them I would go. Screw the terrorists =D
Message: Posted by: Marlin1894 (Jan 16, 2014 03:58PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-16 15:28, balducci wrote:

Was it?
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"Upon returning to his native Louisville, Clay finds he's not immune to the racism that is so prevalent in the U.S. After being refused service by a waitress at a "whites-only" restaurant, and then fighting with a white gang, a disgusted Clay throws his gold medal into the Ohio River.

He turns professional and wins the first two fights of his career."

[img]http://imageshack.com/a/img31/1023/dcr3.jpg[/img]
[img]http://imageshack.com/a/img845/9669/10zv.jpg[/img]
[img]http://imageshack.com/a/img31/1023/dcr3.jpg[/img]

It's obviously not very likely.
Message: Posted by: tommy (Jan 16, 2014 03:59PM)
:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVVrZJaN1IU
Message: Posted by: Marlin1894 (Jan 16, 2014 04:02PM)
Ah! Tommy jumped in before I could fix my post. The pics should be like so:

[img]http://imageshack.com/a/img845/9669/10zv.jpg[/img]
[img]http://imageshack.com/a/img32/8910/bvl9.jpg[/img]
[img]http://imageshack.com/a/img31/1023/dcr3.jpg[/img]

There we go. I think that goes a long way towards telling wether the story is true or not. Good story though.
Message: Posted by: balducci (Jan 31, 2014 10:27PM)
So I have to revise my earlier answer ...

If these headlines from Drudge are remotely accurate:

SUPER SECURITY TAKES OVER SUPER BOWL...
Hidden snipers deployed in stadium...
Black Hawk Helicopters On Alert...
F-16s prepared to scramble...

I'd rather be at Sochi than at the superbowl.
Message: Posted by: critter (Jan 31, 2014 10:33PM)
I'm sure potential suicide bombers everywhere are frightened into pacifism by those measures.
Message: Posted by: General_Magician (Jan 31, 2014 10:48PM)
I think people should go if they have the money, the liesure time to go and would really like to see the Olympics. I would be vigalent if I were them, but I would also not cower down to terrorism and let them destroy an international event of goodwill and competition like the Olympics. I sympathize with the Russians when it comes to dealing with terrorism and I don't think people should let terrorists win by being intimidated out of going to the Olympics.

You have to have courage when facing terrorists. Sure Putin's Russia is not exactly our friend and it's a corrupt place that doesn't completely share our values, but I can sympathize with the Russians when it comes to dealing with terrorism and I certainly don't think people should let the terrorists win by cowering down to them and not going to the Olympics. It simply destroys an important international event of goodwill and competition by caving in to the fear the terrorists sow.
Message: Posted by: acesover (Feb 1, 2014 12:22AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-31 23:48, General_Magician wrote:
I think people should go if they have the money, the liesure time to go and would really like to see the Olympics. I would be vigalent if I were them, but I would also not cower down to terrorism and let them destroy an international event of goodwill and competition like the Olympics. I sympathize with the Russians when it comes to dealing with terrorism and I don't think people should let terrorists win by being intimidated out of going to the Olympics.

You have to have courage when facing terrorists. Sure Putin's Russia is not exactly our friend and it's a corrupt place that doesn't completely share our values, but I can sympathize with the Russians when it comes to dealing with terrorism and I certainly don't think people should let the terrorists win by cowering down to them and not going to the Olympics. It simply destroys an important international event of goodwill and competition by caving in to the fear the terrorists sow.
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Having courage and facing terrorists is much different than putting ones loved ones lives in danger to prove a point. I really cannot think of anything that would make me do this to my family to prove a point. My life, yes. My family and loved ones lives, NO.

Quite honestly I would much rather destroy what you call an important international event than have any chance of destroying any of my family. However that is just me. Your mileage may differ. I just don't see how but it might.

If called on to defend against these so called terrorists that is another matter. However I repeat. I am not about to put my loved ones in danger to watch a couple people frolic in the cold weather for medals. Please don't get me wrong. I love the idea of the best in the world competition and am in awe of those who strive to become the best. But after all is said and done and something were to befall my family. I feel that it boils down to watching those frolic in the cold weather for medals that cost me my family and I do not see any upside to that. Especially when we can watch it together in the safety of our homes here in the U.S.A.
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Feb 1, 2014 12:23AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-31 23:33, critter wrote:
I'm sure potential suicide bombers everywhere are frightened into pacifism by those measures.
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:). Probably not, but as Boston showed us, not all terrorists are so eager to die.
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Feb 1, 2014 12:26AM)
Should I go to an ATM at 2:00 a.m. in South Central L.A.? I mean, if I don't, I'm letting the gang members win.
Message: Posted by: General_Magician (Feb 1, 2014 12:32AM)
[quote]Should I go to an ATM at 2:00 a.m. in South Central L.A.? I mean, if I don't, I'm letting the gang members win.[/quote]

Take a gun with you and shoot back if the gang bangers pull a gun on you.

[quote]Having courage and facing terrorists is much different than putting ones loved ones lives in danger to prove a point. I really cannot think of anything that would make me do this to my family to prove a point. My life, yes. My family and loved ones lives, NO.

Quite honestly I would much rather destroy what you call an important international event than have any chance of destroying any of my family. However that is just me. Your mileage may differ. I just don't see how but it might.

If called on to defend against these so called terrorists that is another matter. However I repeat. I am not about to put my loved ones in danger to watch a couple people frolic in the cold weather for medals. Please don't get me wrong. I love the idea of the best in the world competition and am in awe of those who strive to become the best. But after all is said and done and something were to befall my family. I feel that it boils down to watching those frolic in the cold weather for medals that cost me my family and I do not see any upside to that. Especially when we can watch it together in the safety of our homes here in the U.S.A.[/quote]

Well, I never thought of the Olympics as something as nothing more than just merely frolicing around in the snow. But, you know, I don't think people should just let these terrorists dictate how they should live. I certainly wouldn't want terrorists dictating to my family how we should live. I would just rather give them the middle finger and tell them to go screw themselves.
Message: Posted by: acesover (Feb 1, 2014 01:01AM)
[quote]
On 2014-02-01 01:32, General_Magician wrote:
[quote]Should I go to an ATM at 2:00 a.m. in South Central L.A.? I mean, if I don't, I'm letting the gang members win.[/quote]

Take a gun with you and shoot back if the gang bangers pull a gun on you.

[quote]Having courage and facing terrorists is much different than putting ones loved ones lives in danger to prove a point. I really cannot think of anything that would make me do this to my family to prove a point. My life, yes. My family and loved ones lives, NO.

Quite honestly I would much rather destroy what you call an important international event than have any chance of destroying any of my family. However that is just me. Your mileage may differ. I just don't see how but it might.

If called on to defend against these so called terrorists that is another matter. However I repeat. I am not about to put my loved ones in danger to watch a couple people frolic in the cold weather for medals. Please don't get me wrong. I love the idea of the best in the world competition and am in awe of those who strive to become the best. But after all is said and done and something were to befall my family. I feel that it boils down to watching those frolic in the cold weather for medals that cost me my family and I do not see any upside to that. Especially when we can watch it together in the safety of our homes here in the U.S.A.[/quote]

Well, I never thought of the Olympics as something as nothing more than just merely frolicing around in the snow. But, you know, I don't think people should just let these terrorists dictate how they should live. I certainly wouldn't want terrorists dictating to my family how we should live. I would just rather give them the middle finger and tell them to go screw themselves.
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I do not consider the Winter Olympics as frolicking in the snow either. However I would look at it that way if something happened to my family and I knew it was a distinct possibility. That was my point. Surely not to belittle the performers as I have a tremendous amount of respect for their sacrafices in order to be the best in the world at any given time. In fact I believe that is one of the things that makes this world of ours great...that is having the desire to be the best at what we do.
Message: Posted by: General_Magician (Feb 1, 2014 07:42AM)
[quote]I do not consider the Winter Olympics as frolicking in the snow either. However I would look at it that way if something happened to my family and I knew it was a distinct possibility. That was my point. Surely not to belittle the performers as I have a tremendous amount of respect for their sacrafices in order to be the best in the world at any given time. In fact I believe that is one of the things that makes this world of ours great...that is having the desire to be the best at what we do.[/quote]

Well, I certainly respect you a lot acesover and family is important. I understand your views. Family does come first. I just don't like giving terrorists a victory.
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Feb 1, 2014 10:57AM)
So if a bomb goes off at the Olympics,, but you're safe at home, that's a win for the terrorists because you didn't go, but if you're there and get killed, that's a win for you, because you didn't let them stop you from going?
Message: Posted by: balducci (Feb 4, 2014 10:57PM)
Putin pets and cuddles leopard at a nature reserve near the Black Sea resort of Sochi, then commands it to attack and kill two journalists. :)

Story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26038480

Video: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYr_5gRMFRU[/url]