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Topic: Ninja Tossed Out Deck by Patrick Redford
Message: Posted by: EddieM (Feb 12, 2014 03:04PM)
This one looks interesting. No fancy cuts or crazy over produced trailer either, which is what I like to see!

Price: $35.00
Trailer: [url=http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/-p-18106.html]Ninja Tossed Out Deck by Patrick Redford[/url]

"If you want to tell people what cards they're thinking of under the most strict looking conditions... you need the Ninja Tossed-Out Deck System." - Patrick G Redford

The Tossed-Out Deck System Involves:

No Breathers
No Short Cards
No Long Cards
No Marked Cards
No Deck Switches
No Alterations to the Cards of any kind
No Memory Work
No Fishing
No Stack Necessary

All 52 cards are present and accounted for.

Secretly set the whole system right in front of your audience with a borrowed deck of cards!
Message: Posted by: Magic.Maddy (Feb 12, 2014 03:09PM)
I love Patrick's work and I've been seeing a ton of incredible effects on his YouTube channel! I hope they are all find it to market. Each is as amazing as the last!
Message: Posted by: Doctor D (Feb 12, 2014 03:11PM)
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On 2014-02-12 16:04, EddieM wrote:

Price: $30.00

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Funny, link says it's $35. ;)
Message: Posted by: Magic.Maddy (Feb 12, 2014 03:15PM)
Also, I'm fairly certain this is the one taught in his lecture, yes?
Message: Posted by: EddieM (Feb 12, 2014 03:26PM)
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On 2014-02-12 16:15, Magic.Maddy wrote:
Also, I'm fairly certain this is the one taught in his lecture, yes?
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Ooops, that's my fault! I meant to type $35.00 but not I cannot go back and correct the original posting. For $35.00, it looks pretty *** good.
Message: Posted by: EddieM (Feb 12, 2014 03:28PM)
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On 2014-02-12 16:15, Magic.Maddy wrote:
Also, I'm fairly certain this is the one taught in his lecture, yes?
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Good question.....I'm not sure. Maybe he will come on this thread and answer it for us.
Message: Posted by: Patrick Redford (Feb 20, 2014 12:38PM)
While the there is a very brute force version taught in the my lectures and this method is also included as a bonus on the DVD…the main method along side many techniques may be done by passing the deck around the room without the performer having to come into contact with it until the cards are boxed after three or more selections are made.

Of course, there's even more on the DVD than just those two ideas. It's jammed pack full of information, techniques, and secrets that you will fry even the most knowledgeable performers with.
Message: Posted by: EddieM (Feb 20, 2014 12:50PM)
Thanks for coming on here Patrick and addressing that. :)
Message: Posted by: Gorecki (Feb 20, 2014 01:07PM)
Wow... this almost looks too good to be true.
I'll see how long I can resist the urge to place an order. :)

(Can you *really* give the deck away like that at the end? This boggles my mind...)
Message: Posted by: TheGreatRaymondo (Feb 20, 2014 01:54PM)
Very, very interesting!
Forcing myself to wait for a review before ordering...
Message: Posted by: gtx magic (Feb 20, 2014 06:43PM)
I hope it is as good as it claims.

I cant understand when in the Demo, Patrick asked his spectator "would you like to shuffle the cards your self or are you happy with my shuffling" the spectator say's I'm happy with your shuffle.

Now I'm not suggesting that patrick's trying to hide something or being misleading, but I would of thought it would of made the video demo even stonger as a selling point of view if patrick would of said "and you go a head and shuffle the deck as well" even though he gave him the choice I know.

No offence intended to Patrick it's just my opinion.

Graham
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Feb 20, 2014 06:50PM)
I'm guessing the cards cannot be shuffled.
Message: Posted by: gtx magic (Feb 20, 2014 07:05PM)
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On 2014-02-20 19:50, saysold1 wrote:
I'm guessing the cards cannot be shuffled.
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I am thinking on the same lines my self sayssold1,why would'nt you go the extra mile just to show that some one else can actually shuffle the cards.

When making a demo you would think you would show all aspects and strongest points of the trick ?

Graham.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Feb 20, 2014 07:12PM)
I think I figured out what this is myself after seeing the demo a few days ago. I tested my theory twice and it worked well twice - just as clean.

What you get here I think is a new spin on an older concept. The routines etc.

Don't own this but like I said I was stumped initially but then I recalled that Patrick showed this at mindvention.
Message: Posted by: Nathan Alexander (Feb 20, 2014 07:39PM)
As we just see the one selection, can anyone say how the process is for more than one? Similar selection and bury? Or a quicker version per participant?
Message: Posted by: Moxahalla (Feb 20, 2014 07:57PM)
"Si" would be proud of this...and shades of the old "X-Ray Deck" too?
Message: Posted by: Patrick Redford (Mar 3, 2014 09:03AM)
Here's how the process looks with three people:

The deck is given to someone they can shuffle (yes really*). They are asked to cut the deck anywhere, look at the top card and then pass the deck behind them to someone else. This person does the same thing and then buries the card into the center, boxes the cards and the deck is then tossed to the other side of the room for some variety. This last person does exactly what Keith does in the demo. IF you'd like you can also have this person fan the cards towards him or herself, cut any card to the face and make the selection this way. The cards are boxed, tossed back to the performer who may now name all three cards.

Hope this clears that up for you!


*there are multiple techniques taught on the DVD some using a stack and some not. In ALL cases the deck may be shuffled before any cards are thought of.
Message: Posted by: KevinKM99 (Mar 3, 2014 02:12PM)
Not sure if it'd make a tangible difference in impact, but you could incorporate this with Darwin Ortiz's Zen Master and giveaway the deck at the end.
Message: Posted by: Nathan Alexander (Mar 3, 2014 08:47PM)
Thanks Patrick, love the way this sounds.
Message: Posted by: Gorecki (Mar 4, 2014 09:26AM)
And you *do* give away the deck at the end?
Message: Posted by: Gorecki (Mar 4, 2014 09:28AM)
Don't get me wrong: since the spectators shuffle -- or at the very least handle -- the deck themselves, I have no doubt that nobody will ask to see the deck afterwards.
But being able to give the deck away is just an extra kick in the teeth.
And I like those kicks. :)
Message: Posted by: mysticalsales (Mar 4, 2014 09:37AM)
I would like to see a presentation with the spectator shuffling first. Curious why it was not demo'ed that way? I feel it would have been way more impressive.
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Mar 4, 2014 09:46AM)
Because it is just an option if you know what I mean.... ;) Jan
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Mar 4, 2014 09:46AM)
[quote] In ALL cases the deck may be shuffled before any cards are thought of.
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Can the cards be shuffled in ALL cases by the Spectator EVERY time then? :angel:
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Mar 4, 2014 10:42AM)
YOU should know :) ... Jan
Message: Posted by: Patrick Redford (Mar 9, 2014 09:41AM)
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On Mar 4, 2014, Nicolino wrote:
[quote] In ALL cases the deck may be shuffled before any cards are thought of.
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Can the cards be shuffled in ALL cases by the Spectator EVERY time then? :angel:
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Yes. In every method taught and discussed on the DVD (even those that use a stack of sorts) the deck may certainly be shuffled by the audience.
Message: Posted by: GordonTheHypnotist (Mar 9, 2014 11:42AM)
Knowing Patrick like I do the only prerequisite for this is you have to be a Ninja!
Message: Posted by: Patrick Redford (Mar 15, 2014 09:12AM)
No need to be a Ninja - this one is stupid easy!
Message: Posted by: GordonTheHypnotist (Mar 15, 2014 09:27AM)
My sarcasm didn't come across the interwebs to the Café! I just thought the title was amusing. P.R. usually has eccentric titles like Prevaricator, triangle, square, etc. the Ninja Tossed Out Deck sounds like a name Brad Christian would call an effect. With that being said, this looks awesome and even with my aversion to cards I think I will pick this up.
Message: Posted by: sjdavison (Aug 29, 2014 04:41PM)
For me, the false shuffle was also worth it's weight in gold! Never seen this before and I've been looking for one like this for ages to compliment stack work.

Excellent stuff, good work. Great idea and great TOD

Simon