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Topic: Steve Valentine Cloth
Message: Posted by: Gaz_Japan (Mar 19, 2014 10:12AM)
Does anyone know anything about Steve Valentines new release Cloth?
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Mar 19, 2014 10:17AM)
Does he touch it?
Message: Posted by: msukairi (Mar 21, 2014 06:15AM)
No video ?
Message: Posted by: stevevalentine (Apr 2, 2014 02:19PM)
On Mar 19, 2014, Gaz_Japan wrote:
Does anyone know anything about Steve Valentines new release Cloth?
Hey mate, yeah its the new DVD Im getting ready to put out. a resurrection of Card Through Hanky, pluss a ton of hanky related material to justify the pocket space. its super clean and visual, hope to have it ready soon, problem is I keep coming up with variations :)
Message: Posted by: Bill Abbott Magic (Apr 3, 2014 12:27AM)
Steve performed this in a recent visit to Toronto and it's fantastic. Forget what you 'think' you know about card through hank. This goes above, beyond and around the corner. Killer.
Message: Posted by: Dondestan (Apr 3, 2014 01:24AM)
Steve goes into some detail about Cloth during his appearance on Murphy's Tuesday Night Hangout a couple days ago. He mentions he could have released it a year ago, but kept coming up with new ideas and details. I wish more magicians were as patient with their releases as Steve apparently is.

Check out the full hangout if you haven't seen it yet - the whole thing was fun to watch, despite Kyle's echoes..echoes..echoes. :)

Message: Posted by: Blindside785 (May 6, 2014 12:38AM)
Anymore update on this one?
Message: Posted by: ComposerCopenhagen (May 6, 2014 08:01AM)
I have been a big fan of Valentine since the Three release. I can't wait for something new to come :-)
Message: Posted by: D_avid (May 6, 2014 11:51AM)
I've been out of touch. can this be ordered directly through you, Steve?
Message: Posted by: Blindside785 (May 6, 2014 01:15PM)
Meanwhile, have you guys seen his packet trick? This flew under the radar for sure.

http://vimeo.com/ondemand/printentious/87379083 There is a live performance in the video.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (May 6, 2014 03:05PM)
Print-entious looks good! I'll have to keep an eye out for that and the DVD, Cloth.

Keep it coming, Steve!


Message: Posted by: Casshan (May 7, 2014 02:02PM)
Cloth looks so awesome! I got to witness it and was part of the routine. A straight forward and visual miracle!
Message: Posted by: fishmagic (Jul 23, 2014 08:37AM)
I pre-ordered this. I already perform several routines with a handkerchief.
Now I can add more magic without more props. I am looking forward to working through
the vast amount of material that these DVDs include.
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Jul 23, 2014 11:02AM)
This is going to be good, it's just over a week hopefully before we get our hands on this, we have it on pre-order status.

Check it out here http://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/new-magic/cloth-by-steve-valentine.html
Message: Posted by: Sashac (Aug 6, 2014 01:37PM)
Went through it, it's 4 HOURS LONG!!! It really is great though! I HIGHLY recommend it!
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Aug 11, 2014 10:20AM)
I've just been watching Cloth and this is something I'm going to use.

I can't see it taking long at all to practice what is required and the routine is nice and easy to remember which is a must for me!!!

This is a 3 DVD set of which I've only just watched most of disc 3 which is the one with the Cloth routine and explanation on.

I agree with Sashac, this is great.

Check it out here http://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/new-magic/cloth-by-steve-valentine.html
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (Aug 11, 2014 02:02PM)
Anyone who has received this care to post a review?
Message: Posted by: fishmagic (Aug 13, 2014 03:42PM)
I am preparing to perform this routine this weekend. I will post how it goes.
The DVDs make you think. There are many methods and strategies to perform this routine.
A performer has to decide which ones and under what conditions to use them.
Steve Valentine's routine is very visual. I can't wait to see how an audience reacts to this.
Message: Posted by: Quentin (Aug 15, 2014 05:00AM)
CLOTH by Steve Valentine

With all the controversy about the high price of one-trick DVDs, it’s a bit of surprise for me to review a three DVD set that deals with one trick. Or to be precise - one magical effect. Many one-trick DVDs on the market detail effects that have not been properly researched or audience tested and before the era of self-publishing would, at best, ended up as a magazine article.

Fortunately for you and me Steve Valentine is a pro and has done his research and this set is well worth your investment in time and money.

My interest in the venerable Card Through Handkerchief was piqued when I read Billy McComb’s Five Card Selection routine in one of the Ireland Year Books. It wasn’t known as the Multiple Card Selection back then. Billy’s routine climaxed with the Card Thru Hanky.

In Disc One of this nicely produced and edited set, Mr Valentine takes us though the basic handlings and sleights and offers non-sleight versions as well. While not encyclopaedic it is very thorough and teaches some of the best handlings and routines from the literature.

A plethora of routines and techniques are shown, all basically being the same plot, a card penetrating through a handkerchief. Sometimes it is the traditional effect, sometimes it pops through, occasionally it rises through and even floats up a la Zombie.

I’m assuming that Steve approaches learning a new trick in similar fashion to the way I do. Namely, research everything you can find, work on it, delete bits, add bits, think about it, change it, perform, change, add, edit and eventually come up with something worthwhile once you have visualised the effect you want to achieve. In Steve’s case it was a short paragraph about Nate Leipzig that spurred the development of his method.

Steve has done all that work for you, which is literally a huge amount of research and I’d say, equal to a university semester.

From this disc alone you have your money’s worth if you are looking for a routine to add to your professional repertoire. The Card Thru Hanky is an excellent way to finish a card set as it is visual and the magic should happen at face level. If you are careful about your angles and blocking, you should be able to do this strolling and table-hopping. I’d also refer you to Tommy Wonder’s books and DVD set for some extra tips and handling.

Disc Two covers tricks, stunts and gags to do with the handkerchief you carry with you. Steve prefers a white bandana rather than a men’s pocket handkerchief as it is a little larger. Google ‘white bandana’ and you can buy them quite cheaply, singly or in bulk. Steve covers a number of ideas and routines where the bandana’s corners are held by participants, making a little stage, allowing you to do a range of tricks that would normally require a table. He teaches a coins through handkerchief using the Little Hand gag - as sold by Michael Ammar - as its premise. Another routine that would work well, though it isn’t mentioned on the DVD is Bob Swadling’s Double Deception, sold by Mark Mason.

I was delighted to see Hankyrise, a routine of Len Belcher’s. Len, a creative magician contributed many tricks to British magazines such as The Gen and Abracadabra.

For further uses of a handkerchief or bandana I refer you to Billy McComb or Charlie Miller’s routines for the ‘Seven Cornered Handkerchief’ or my own ‘Five Minutes With a Pocket Handkerchief’ DVD, all of which is totally different to what is taught here.

Disc Three is dedicated to Cloth, Steve Valentine’s own routine. Three cards are chosen by the audience and shuffled (by them) back into the deck. The first two cards penetrate through in an amazing manner, the wrapped deck being shown on both sides and the material of the handkerchief being checked by the audience. The third card is even more amazing, as it visibly appears under the handkerchief before popping right through the material.

You need to make some special gaffs for Cloth, all easy to make and fully detailed instructions are given. You don’t have to do all three phases either if you don’t want to.

There are considerations for the professional worker with regards to pocket management as the gaffs have to be introduced in performance and stored when not in use. Steve covers palming and non-palming methods and strong misdirection is built in to cover the moves. There is no heat on you as the audience are totally unaware of the gaffs.

Would that all who rush to bring a DVD to market take as much time and effort to research and teach as Steve Valentine has done with CLOTH. It will come as no surprise that this set is highly recommended.

CLOTH by Steve Valentine $50.

Full details and trailer at http://www.stevevalentine.com/store/p31/CLOTH_By_Steve_Valentine_IN_STOCK_AND_SHIPPING!.html
Message: Posted by: magico (Aug 17, 2014 03:15PM)
I agree if you want to do a Card Thru Hanky routine. You would want this DVD set.
Message: Posted by: Cassidy001 (Aug 30, 2014 02:42PM)
What type of hank is preferred? I want to make sure that I have the ideal one when it arrives.
Message: Posted by: Blindside785 (Aug 30, 2014 03:20PM)
I believe everyone has been mentioning he has been using a white bandana.
Message: Posted by: Cassidy001 (Aug 30, 2014 03:26PM)
[quote]On Aug 30, 2014, Blindside785 wrote:
I believe everyone has been mentioning he has been using a white bandana. [/quote]

Thanks. Ordering one now. I appreciate the quick response.
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Aug 30, 2014 03:34PM)
I am actually using the white cloth that comes with the Magic Knot Slydini Silk routine which means I can do that routine as well.


If you do the same you will need 2 sets though because you have to make your gimmicks using one of them.

These work very well and can be seen through as required in the routine, the edges do need sealing though other wise they fray, Steve does mention this but not how to solve it he just suggests trimming them up every now and they but I have an idea that I can seal the edges so they say good for longer.
Message: Posted by: Gaz_Japan (Aug 30, 2014 09:09PM)
Hi Mark

Any chance that you might share some of the info?

Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Aug 31, 2014 02:31AM)
[quote]On Aug 30, 2014, Gaz_Japan wrote:
Hi Mark

Any chance that you might share some of the info?

Gaz [/quote]

I have yet to try it out but I'm sure it will work just fine, you just need to seal the edges of the cloth, I'm thinking PVA glue the white suff that dries clear.
Message: Posted by: magicjoe (Aug 31, 2014 03:17PM)
On the DVD he says at the beginning he is using a plain white handkerchief. I have yet to find one at a store.
Message: Posted by: Xcath1 (Sep 1, 2014 12:25AM)
Google white bandana. That is what you want