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Topic: Hands free remote for OneTrack
Message: Posted by: Mike ODonnell (May 7, 2014 03:24PM)
Hi Guys,

After reading many threads and reviews, I think I will be going with OneTrack. Does anyone have any experience using a hands free device with onetrack? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Mike
Message: Posted by: Kevin Ridgeway (May 7, 2014 05:59PM)
We use One Track for one of our shows. We don't use a hands device...yet. So I'm interested to hear about auctions for it as well. Regarding One Track, it works very well for our show.
Message: Posted by: Mike ODonnell (May 7, 2014 09:04PM)
Do you mean hands free device?


Mike
Message: Posted by: gothike (May 8, 2014 04:08AM)
Mike,

Not sure what you mean by hands free device. Are you talking about a Parrot Car Kit type device.

Send a link.
Message: Posted by: Kevin Ridgeway (May 8, 2014 07:50AM)
Yes, I meant a hands free device.
Message: Posted by: Mike ODonnell (May 8, 2014 09:06AM)
Gothike,

By hands free, I mean either some sort of toe switch or other method besides using your hands to control the music.
Message: Posted by: gothike (May 9, 2014 05:52PM)
Presently the only hands free remote for Apple will run over $600.00

The ShowCues people have been promising a ankle switch Ijet remote for months. Some people are beta testing from what I have read.

My advice, buy the Ijet and press the buttons with your hand till they release the ankle switch that they have been promising.
Message: Posted by: Mike ODonnell (May 10, 2014 01:45AM)
Alright, thank you. What about a one touch button that is easy (a simple tap from your hand, where the device is in your pocket) to press without looking/no effort? From my searching, all I have found are the remotes that resemble a keyless car remote.

Thanks,

Mike
Message: Posted by: Kevin Ridgeway (May 10, 2014 08:08AM)
Mike,
The remote you described is what we use. We use the iNav Boss 2 remote. The remote is in my pocket and I can hit play, pause, next track, volume up & volume down with just a touch of my finger thru the outside of my pocket. If you are still concerned about hitting the wrong button, then you can do what a friend of ours does: Glue a bead or anything you want to the play button.

Hope that helps
Message: Posted by: Mike ODonnell (May 10, 2014 10:01AM)
Great idea! Thx
Message: Posted by: Carl Andrews (May 10, 2014 09:54PM)
The Show Cues magnetic switch has been available for a several months now. See Shawn Popp at Conjuringcabinet.com.

Also we are working with another company on an amazing new product to work with Show Cues. So stay tuned, hopefully this summer.

Mahalo,
Carl

http://mojosoftwareonline.com/showcues.htm
Message: Posted by: gothike (May 10, 2014 11:37PM)
I'm in Conjuring Cabinet and I see no ankle remote. Am I searching with the wrong keyword.
Message: Posted by: Carl Andrews (May 11, 2014 01:48AM)
The ankle remote is not listed it is automatically built into our remote now.
The remote has a magnetic switch and you are not limited to just your ankle. You could use is that way but another idea was to put it in your pocket and touch your pocket with a PK ring.
Message: Posted by: garydunn (May 11, 2014 05:18AM)
A colleague has his remote attached to his mic stand. When he needs music during a straight jacket escape, he has a magnet fixed inside the sleeve of the jacket which he brushes past the remote. Simple!
Message: Posted by: gothike (May 11, 2014 03:41PM)
This is a little counter logical.

The magnetic reed switch has been available for a while and no public announcement. From what I am understanding above.

Then a simple update of the description in the shopping cart is missing.

Did I miss a Announcement Post?
Message: Posted by: Carl Andrews (May 12, 2014 01:08PM)
We have quite a few users using it but we have not made a public announcement because there is something even bigger and better coming soon. Those that want it can get what we have now but the wait will be worth if for the new hardware. While the NDA will not let me discuss it here, trust me it's going to be huge! A combination of the best software and best hardware will be awesome! Again if you cannot wait until this summer, go ahead and order the existing remote from conjuringcabinet.com. Thanks for your support!
Message: Posted by: TDS (May 14, 2014 07:45AM)
Everyone,

Carl has an excellent idea with developing both a hardware and software music player solution... Cue Command has been offering that for nearly a year. Instead of waiting, Cue Command is available right now: www.DeceptivelySimple.com

For information on competitive product offerings, check this out: http://www.deceptivelysimple.com/webpages/comparisons.html

Best always,

Team Deceptively Simple
Message: Posted by: Carl Andrews (May 14, 2014 02:53PM)
To the Show Cues faithful, you know it will be worth the wait. If you knew who we are working with, you would know the new product will be the very best on the market. Keep using Show Cues as you already are doing and be excited for the new release coming soon. Thanks! Carl
Message: Posted by: gothike (May 14, 2014 10:05PM)
@mike odonell

$60 for Ijet and $15 for OneTrack.

You can make a ankle holder for the remote but you will have to touch both feet together to cue, think ballerina. Might look a little weird.

Show Cues is coming out with hardware, my bet it's just Linx Systems hardware. Not unless it's another 3rd party like Directed Technologies.

The unknown factor is the price and the price usually determines the number of units sold.
Message: Posted by: Carl Andrews (May 15, 2014 06:07PM)
The new Show Cues remote system is neither of gothike's guesses.

Again due to the NDA I will not say more or address this further at this time but promise it will be huge!

The price of Show Cues App will probably go up after the new hardware is added although the total price will be very competitive with other music player systems currently on the market. That said the price will be quite a bit higher than an iJet remote and any other less expensive App but we believe Show Cues is worth every penny!

Check out our Show Cues customer reviews on our website http://mojosoftwareonline.com/showcues.htm or on the App store.
Message: Posted by: Mike ODonnell (May 16, 2014 07:48AM)
Thank you everyone for your input. I will be using Inav remote with OneTrack app. So far it's pretty easy to use. No issues yet with either the app or remote. Will report back after this Saturday.
Message: Posted by: gothike (May 16, 2014 02:04PM)
Mike,

Awesome. Don't forget to always turn off Wifi, Bluetooth and put your device on Airplane mode. Most importantly REBOOT to clear your memory..
Message: Posted by: OneTrack App (Jun 8, 2014 11:27AM)
I know I'm a bit late (as always) to comment on this post but I have a number of users successfully using the Airturn BT-105 pedal board on stage (in some cases I know of they are performing in front of thousands). I don't as yet know of any magicians using the Airturn but it is a very solid, reliable and quiet pedal board which could probably be quite well hidden. Perhaps Hugh Sung at Airturn might be approached to develop an on the floor, flat (and invisible) device for triggering. They have developed the Airturn Tap for drummers which takes a light tap with a finger or drumstick to change tracks etc. OneTrack does work extensively with Airturn devices offering far more flexibility than the iJet Nav. And I think the reliability of their devices is proven by their customer list. Obviously one of their pedal boards is more expensive than the iJet Nav but you are still talking only $115 for a two pedal device. Going by how many of my users are magicians, I'd say there is a huge market opportunity for Airturn to develop something for your industry but it would need a bit of noise to get his attention as he's a busy man. Try emailing him at hugh@airturn.com and if enough of you are calling for the same thing he may well move in that direction.

And thanks, Mike, for purchasing OneTrack. I hope it's living up to your expectations.
Message: Posted by: aheads (Jun 27, 2014 10:33AM)
[quote]On Jun 8, 2014, OneTrack App wrote:
I hope it's living up to your expectations. [/quote]

I bought the app and I'm disappointed that it doesn't work with the iphone dock and remote. Such a shame. I'll now have to buy a new remote system to replace the perfectly functional and trusted remote system that I've used for ages. Or just not use One Track in favour of something else that works with my dock/remote.
Message: Posted by: Tim Hannig (Jun 27, 2014 10:38AM)
I use the ijet remote through my pocket and it works perfectly.

I'm thrilled with onetrackapp and the fact that it works with a $40 remote... especially since it replaced my $1,400 system!
Message: Posted by: OneTrack App (Jun 27, 2014 12:54PM)
[quote]On Jun 27, 2014, aheads wrote:
I bought the app and I'm disappointed that it doesn't work with the iphone dock and remote. Such a shame. I'll now have to buy a new remote system to replace the perfectly functional and trusted remote system that I've used for ages. Or just not use One Track in favour of something else that works with my dock/remote. [/quote]

The Apple remote works with IR and the universal dock (neither the iPad dock nor the iPhone dock have IR). I don't have a universal dock anymore to test this but would have thought it emulates the standard remote controls on the Apple earbuds which is what the iJet does. If this is the case then OneTrack should work with it. You say you have an iPhone dock and remote, does this combination work with Apple's Music app?
Message: Posted by: gothike (Jun 27, 2014 01:39PM)
@aheads

IR remotes require you to point the remote to the receiver, your range is about 10-20ft.

RF remote such as the Ijet, the range is about 150ft and the remote can be in your pocket.

Think more reliable.

I personally don't know of an App that uses your IR dock. The problem is that if you find an app it might not be designed to control your show. Meaning, no autopause, fade out, cue next song, custom fade times, etc.

Play with OneTrack manually with button presses and you will fall in love with it. I am positive that you will consider an Ijet.

PM me and I'll tell you which one to get.
Message: Posted by: aheads (Jun 30, 2014 10:05AM)
[quote]On Jun 27, 2014, OneTrack App wrote:
[You say you have an iPhone dock and remote, does this combination work with Apple's Music app? [/quote]

Yeah, it's a universal dock with IR remote. It works with Apple's own Music app but not with One Track.

The reason I'm using it is that the remote is concealed in an item I use in my show and is always in line of sight wot the receiver at a rande of about 6 feet. So far, I've been creating my own show music and cues with audacity but I might make the jump to ijet.

I had a look at their site and I can't see a dock which fits the Iphone 5 - is there one?
Message: Posted by: Tim Hannig (Jun 30, 2014 10:13AM)
By the way, I was going to glue a bead to the ijet remote so that I could feel it through my pocket.

However, the way the remote is designed, I can easily feel the center raised button, which is "play/pause." From there, I can easily go to any of the other 4 buttons.
(forward, back, volume up, and volume down)

I keep the remote in a horizontal position at the base of my pocket, so it doesn't move around.

The audience doesn't notice my remote cues, as I normally lean forward or make some kind of larger body movement which naturally brings my left fingertips to the outside of the pocket.

It's like the principle we all know in magic: the larger motion hides the smaller motion.
Message: Posted by: aheads (Jun 30, 2014 10:16AM)
Nevermind - I should have read the text on the website instead of just looking at the pretty pictures.
Message: Posted by: Lundonia (Jul 13, 2014 04:07PM)
[quote]On May 14, 2014, gothike wrote:
@mike odonell

$60 for Ijet and $15 for OneTrack.

You can make a ankle holder for the remote but you will have to touch both feet together to cue, think ballerina. Might look a little weird.
[/quote]

I'm a novice at this and I'm browsing through the jungle. How do you make an ankle holder for the Ijet?
Message: Posted by: gothike (Jul 15, 2014 12:43AM)
A magician that can't Google.

But here you go:

http://www.promystic.com/product/ankle-remote/
Message: Posted by: Lundonia (Jul 15, 2014 12:42PM)
[quote]On Jul 15, 2014, gothike wrote:
A magician that can't Google.

But here you go:

http://www.promystic.com/product/ankle-remote/ [/quote]

Thanks. I did google it and I'm aware that there are ankle remotes. I just thought it would be specifically an iJet. Silly me.
Message: Posted by: gothike (Jul 15, 2014 01:43PM)
The Ijet sold by ShowCues for $60 has a magnetic reed switch. You can place it in your pocket and trigger it with a magnetic ring or you can make a ankle holder using some creativity.

The link is just a Sample
Message: Posted by: aheads (Aug 27, 2014 06:26AM)
I made the step to iJet and received it yesterday. I'm using it with an Iphone 5 (with lightning adapter) and One Track Mind and I'm having issues.

The combination of iJet and One Track will not wotk in Airplane mode. The app cannot be controlled with the remote and the app crashes occasionally.

In normal mode, I can start the playlist, pause and skip to track 2 but if I pause again or skip again then the phone or app selects a track at random from ALL of the music of my phone.

Any suggestions?
Message: Posted by: aheads (Aug 27, 2014 07:01AM)
Hold on guys...

Should I be using OneTrack: https://itunes.apple.com/se/app/onetrack-backing-tracks-for/id425807868?mt=8

or One Track Mind: https://itunes.apple.com/se/app/one-track-mind/id509958487?mt=8

I'm using the latter but suspect that I should have bene using the first.
Message: Posted by: Michael Messing (Aug 27, 2014 08:03AM)
You should be using OneTrack (not One Track Mind) for your music. Also, it is very important to follow these steps when using OneTrack:

1.) Connect the dock (receiver) and adapter to the iPhone
2.) Wait approximately 30 seconds before connecting the audio cable to the iPhone
3.) Launch OneTrack and select your playlist.
4.) Select the first track so it is ready to play
5.) Press the play button in the app manually (not using the remote) to start the first song. This is really important. If you do not start the first track this way (instead you use the remote first), the iPhone's built-in music player will be activated rather than OneTrack. By manually starting the first song by pushing the play button on the screen, it tells the iPhone to use the app. (This is in one of Sean's instruction videos found here: http://seanbergin.com/OneTrack/OneTrack.html?2054c820 )
Message: Posted by: aheads (Aug 27, 2014 12:02PM)
Thanks Michael Messing. It would seem that I've been using the wrong app.
Message: Posted by: aheads (Aug 28, 2014 07:28AM)
Right then. I've downloaded OneTrack and it works perfectly with the iJet Nav. Just what I wanted so all happy smiles here.

The only outstanding issue is how to get it to work with a Bluetooth speaker. So far I can't get it to work. It's no big deal because the speaker has a manual audio input as well but I wonder if there is a way to get it to work. I'm using an Iphone 5.
Message: Posted by: OneTrack App (Aug 28, 2014 09:34AM)
Hi Anthony, Sean Bergin here the developer of OneTrack, I thought I'd post the answer here as well as answering you direct by email. The iJet Nav will not work alongside a BlueTooth speaker with OneTrack (and neither will it with Apple's Music App). If you need a wireless remote that works while connected to a BlueTooth speaker I can recommend the Airturn Digit II ($39) which is a small handheld remote similiar to the iJet Nav but which is a recent device and uses bluetooth low energy instead of infrared. This has the advantage of needing no adaptor on the phone but has a shorter transmission range. I use an Airturn BlueTooth Pedalboard myself and it is extremely well made and reliable. There is the added advantage that, as the Digit II appears to OneTrack as a similiar device to their pedalboard, you can set the Digit's buttons to any of 14 different settings. I cannot, however, comment on the unobtrusiveness of the Digit II and its usefulness to a magician - I know the iJet Nav shines in this regard.

http://www.airturn.com/digit-ii/products/airturn/bluetooth-airturn/digit-ii
Message: Posted by: aheads (Aug 29, 2014 01:44AM)
Thanks again Sean for your prompt response. Great customer service.
Message: Posted by: mrwiggle (Aug 30, 2014 03:59AM)
Just a quick question does OneTrack run on ipad as well as iphone as it don't come up when searching for the app on ipad sorry if this has been asked before
kevin
Message: Posted by: OneTrack App (Aug 30, 2014 07:18AM)
Hi Kevin, OneTrack will run on an iPad in emulation mode (a scaled up iPhone version) but I am still working on the iPad version. I'd say more than half of my users (going by feedback) are running OneTrack on iPads so I am working hard on a version specifically for iPad - I really didn't want just a scaled up version.
Message: Posted by: afcaballero (Nov 13, 2014 09:51PM)
[quote]On Aug 30, 2014, OneTrack App wrote:
Hi Kevin, OneTrack will run on an iPad in emulation mode (a scaled up iPhone version) but I am still working on the iPad version. I'd say more than half of my users (going by feedback) are running OneTrack on iPads so I am working hard on a version specifically for iPad - I really didn't want just a scaled up version. [/quote]


Does Onetrack works on Ipod?
Thank you for your answer.
Alex.
Message: Posted by: gothike (Nov 14, 2014 12:35AM)
Depends on your ipod. It won't work on the Classic pods. But if your iPod is running iOS and you have an AppStore, your good to go..
Message: Posted by: magicman812 (Apr 23, 2018 07:49PM)
Is One Track still available? I cannot seem to find it on the iTunes Store.
Message: Posted by: gothike (Apr 23, 2018 09:53PM)
Not available anymore.

Apple kept changing things between ios versions.

It hard to add features that take months to program when Apple keeps changing things without notifying the developers.
Message: Posted by: magicman812 (Apr 24, 2018 07:09AM)
Ok. Thank you.