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Topic: Chop cup tricks
Message: Posted by: drgnjames123 (Jan 15, 2004 06:54PM)
What kind of tricks can be done with a chop cup? :cups:
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Jan 17, 2004 12:01PM)
Have you read the instructions? :fear:
Message: Posted by: Randy Sager (Jan 17, 2004 12:20PM)
Or even read the description in a magic catalog?
Message: Posted by: drgnjames123 (Jan 17, 2004 12:46PM)
Thanks Pete and Randy. Anyone else?
Message: Posted by: Almost-A-Magician (Jan 17, 2004 12:53PM)
I started with the Brad Burt video, and found it very helpful with the basic moves and concepts. It provides a simple but very good routine.
Message: Posted by: drgnjames123 (Jan 17, 2004 01:02PM)
Thanks Almost a magician, Sorry pete and Randy. What I meant to say was that I bought a metal cup in a second hand store and would like to know what good routines I can perform with it and if any books, what are good ones?

Thanks, sorry for the confusion, James.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jan 17, 2004 01:08PM)
Maybe what you need to think in terms of is not necessarily the "tricks" that can be done with a chop cup, but the ROUTINES that can be done with one. Tommy Wonder has a really nice one. John Mendoza published a routine in the late 1960's with a combo cup and ball set that basically put these things on the map. Don Alan's routine is one of the classics.

Basically a chop cup (more correctly a Chop-Chop cup) can be used to produce an item or to vanish it. In the context of a routine, however, it can be used for the transposition of an item also. So, the answer goes back to some of the ones you may have considered to be flippant or even rude -- read the instructions and/or the descriptions in the catalogs and on the internet.

It's a versatile prop. When I performed at the Texas Renaissance Festival and at Cavalier Dayes of Texas, it was a feature of my act.
Message: Posted by: Randy Sager (Jan 17, 2004 01:10PM)
No problem.

I assume (Of course we all know what that does LOL!) that this is an ungaffed cup?

There are several one cup and ball routines out there. The Classic Magic Of Larry Jennings has his one cup and ball routine in it. The book is by Stephen Minch.

If it is actually a chop cup again there are many books with routines out there. In John Bannon's book Impossiablia.
Message: Posted by: drgnjames123 (Jan 17, 2004 01:21PM)
Thanks I'll check that book out!!
Message: Posted by: drwilson (Jan 18, 2004 08:24AM)
I like John Mendoza "Live in London," a nice video showing his Cups and Balls and Chop Cup Routine. He has a very disarming way of beginning that lets the audience see that it is a little game that they can't win; mercifully, he establishes this without embarassing anyone.

The "How To" Book of the Chop Cup by Merlyn T. Shute (Morrissey Magic) is comprehensive; I highly recommend it. You will have the basis for developing your own routine with this.

I have a terrific Chop Cup (King Arthur's Chop Chalice) made by a company called "Poof Products" (circa 1990). It is a Chop Cup in pewter that looks like a chalice. It would be perfect for a Ren Faire. I don't know how many of these were made. What I like about it is that you can begin your routine with a toast to your hosts or other VIPs, then slide right into magic. It will take a really big final load, too.

You can see a picture at:


Good luck!


Message: Posted by: TieDyeBandit (Jul 11, 2016 04:34PM)
I believe this is the Chalice you are thinking of Dr.Wilson...picked it up at an Estate sale sometime ago. LOVE IT! Not sure what the exact worth is now... I paid about $20 back then early 90s.
Message: Posted by: TieDyeBandit (Jul 11, 2016 04:46PM)
Here is the link to the pic of the Chalice. https://instagram.com/p/BHvJyQxj_9z/
Message: Posted by: Kyoki_Sanitys_Eclipse (Jul 14, 2016 10:30PM)
That's a cool chop cup. I like the chop mug for its normality.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jul 15, 2016 04:46AM)
Check out "ChopSign" -- many interesting uses for the chop cup
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (Jul 23, 2016 12:12AM)
Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owxXuRhvxUA Don alan
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (Jul 23, 2016 12:13AM)
Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owxXuRhvxUA Don alan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io-Bby3iWVs paul daniels
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jul 23, 2016 08:28PM)
I had a really nice one, a mini-chop "goblet" with tiny cork balls ( about the size of a pea) and the final load was about the size of a multiplying billiard ball. I used Merlyn's routine from his book "Out Of Your Pockets" and, as that routine required a second final load, I wrote the company (can't remember their name and I think they went out of business anyway) and asked if they could send me another ball. They sent two! I loved that cup and was upset when I lost it, along with the rest of my backpack when I left it at the bus stop :bawl: I got a new one recently. Wooden. Not as crazy about this one as it takes a serious move to present the ball. (Trying not to give away secrets here.) It came with two larger, lopsided, yellow sponge filled balls, :fruity: which works for me because the final reveal is supposed to be; "You're right, I DO have a second ball." Lift cup "But I don't think it would fool anyone."
Message: Posted by: Peckham (Aug 1, 2016 04:36PM)
I'm having the Camelot chalice made for me. Go to the hidden wren website. The gentleman who makes custom items is a cabinetmaker in Wales.
Message: Posted by: Asaka (Aug 5, 2016 04:41AM)
Yes, just watch the performance of Paul Daniels then you know what it can be done
Indeed, his performance video made me wanna learn the routine of Chop Cup...