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Topic: No more Polar Bears for my son.
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Sep 14, 2014 03:23AM)
Well, the polar bear hoax has finally come home to roost. Al Gores LIES have finally poisoned the minds and lives of far too many people.

Today my son went to Sea World and wanted to do something he always does ...SEE THE POLAR BEARS!!!!

They are sadly gone... and do to Al Gores continual lies .... He may never see a live polar bear again....

Upsetting! Will all zoos and such places be forced to close their doors? That would be a shame.

And all because of this lie first exposed 5 years ago ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9sFgUwiKik

There are over 25,000 polar bears today!!!!! :snowman:
Message: Posted by: NYCTwister (Sep 14, 2014 03:57AM)
Where's Laurie?
Message: Posted by: S2000magician (Sep 14, 2014 05:00AM)
[quote]On Sep 13, 2014, Slim King wrote:
There are over 25,000 polar bears today!!!!![/quote]
Between 20,000 and 25,000 as of 2012.

I'm not sure it's increased in the last two years.
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Sep 14, 2014 05:25AM)
The two polar bears that Sea World had were pretty old, but we loved seeing them. Imagine drinking Hot Chocolate in Florida in the Arctic coolness of the exhibit. Christmas at Sea World is the best really. Bottom line ... All the rules and regulations now make it impossible to replace these two. It upsets me that Al Gores quest to ripp everyone off has resulted in this lunacy... Not only does my son face a $17 trillion dollar debt but also the prospect of never seeing anything that resembles a real zoo if this continues..... Upsetting.... :snowman:
Message: Posted by: NYCTwister (Sep 14, 2014 06:17AM)
Slim I don't think that Al Gore/global warming has as much to do with the decline of the zoos, as much as a change in the attitudes of people regarding the treatment of animals.

I busk near the Central Park zoo. Last year the polar bear, Gus, who was the main attraction died. His death was slow and it affected a lot of people. Many felt that the fact he was held in a place that was so far from his natural habitat was the cause. People saw the suffering, and as a result many people have simply stopped going to the zoo.

I get what you're saying but maybe it's time we changed our behavior. In the future I think that zoos will evolve into enormous wild life preserves; where people can go to see the animals in an environment that isn't so detrimental to them.
Times change. Some things don't survive the change.
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Sep 14, 2014 04:28PM)
Not to worry Slim. Come visit the relatively new Polar Bear exhibit at Hogle Zoo in SLC. The poor guy looks miserable, doesn't he?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-FJgBJMv6k
Message: Posted by: Randwill (Sep 14, 2014 05:28PM)
Not only THAT, but it looks like I'm going have to get a new Muffler four my CARR. All because of Al Gore's lies!! Also, some of the lettuce in my refrigorator's krisper has WILTED!!! And those Pears aren't looking two gud either. All because of the Lies told by AL Gore. That Al Gore owes me Big Time! At least According too Fox News. :angry:
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Sep 14, 2014 06:53PM)
I think we need a new theorem similar to Godwin's law.

Engberg's law (or Engberg's Rule of Fox News blame)[1][2] is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of blaming Fox News approaches 1 —​ that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will find a way to blame whatever is being discussed on Fox News.
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Sep 14, 2014 06:59PM)
That's because the least informed views, as propagated by Fox news on a daily basis, are inevitably repeated as facts here on NVMS by those who receive their only news from FOX and right-wing talk radio.
Message: Posted by: motown (Sep 14, 2014 07:24PM)
[quote]On Sep 13, 2014, Slim King wrote:
Well, the polar bear hoax has finally come home to roost. Al Gores LIES have finally poisoned the minds and lives of far too many people.

Today my son went to Sea World and wanted to do something he always does ...SEE THE POLAR BEARS!!!!

They are sadly gone... and do to Al Gores continual lies .... He may never see a live polar bear again....

Upsetting! Will all zoos and such places be forced to close their doors? That would be a shame.

And all because of this lie first exposed 5 years ago ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9sFgUwiKik

There are over 25,000 polar bears today!!!!! :snowman: [/quote]Bring your kid here:

http://www.detroitzoo.org/habitats/arctic-ring-of-life
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Sep 14, 2014 07:30PM)
[quote]On Sep 14, 2014, mastermindreader wrote:
That's because the least informed views, as propagated by Fox news on a daily basis, are inevitably repeated as facts here on NVMS by those who receive their only news from FOX and right-wing talk radio. [/quote]

Oh, I don't know. Some might think that the least informed are those who blindingly accept what the press sensationalizes about simplistic surveys that don't really prove anything.

Dan Cassino, one of the professors of political science at FDU who authored the two studies said, "It was sensationalized – and that’s the dominant bias in the media, sensationalism," he said. "MSNBC was second worst, but it wasn’t talked about."

Cassino says he’s been disappointed by reporters calling him up to talk about the survey but ultimately not really understanding the intricacies of the findings. (Like some people on these boards who we'll avoid naming.)

“The results that get publicized have little to do with the results of the survey,” says Cassino. “There is a bias towards sensationalism. They are trying to find the biggest sexiest story that will make a flash, even if that means distorting the news.”
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Sep 14, 2014 07:49PM)
So when FOX pointed out that Al Gore was lying ... that's a bad thing?
Message: Posted by: tommy (Sep 14, 2014 07:54PM)
Whoever came up with the idea of keeping live animals in cages or large enclosures for public exhibition should have been thrown to the dogs anyway.
Message: Posted by: HudsonView (Sep 14, 2014 08:38PM)
I'm not sure what Al Gore lied about. but here seems to be a saner view of what is going on with the Polar Bear poplulation: http://www.skepticalscience.com/polar-bears-global-warming.htm
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Sep 14, 2014 08:38PM)
[quote]On Sep 14, 2014, tommy wrote:
Whoever came up with the idea of keeping live animals in cages or large enclosures for public exhibition should have been thrown to the dogs anyway. [/quote]
So domesticating any animal is a horrible thing..and all of those goldfish, parakeets, turtles, and house cats need to all be set free????? :bunny:
Oh .. and bunnies too!!!!
Message: Posted by: tommy (Sep 14, 2014 09:53PM)
Did you hear what happened to the goldfish?
Message: Posted by: S2000magician (Sep 14, 2014 09:58PM)
[quote]On Sep 14, 2014, Slim King wrote:
[quote]On Sep 14, 2014, tommy wrote:
Whoever came up with the idea of keeping live animals in cages or large enclosures for public exhibition should have been thrown to the dogs anyway.[/quote]
So domesticating any animal is a horrible thing..and all of those goldfish, parakeets, turtles, and house cats need to all be set free????? :bunny:
Oh .. and bunnies too!!!![/quote]
I must have missed the part where the zookeepers were working to domesticate the polar bears.

Please repost that link.
Message: Posted by: RNK (Sep 16, 2014 11:55AM)
[quote]On Sep 14, 2014, Slim King wrote:
So when FOX pointed out that Al Gore was lying ... that's a bad thing? [/quote]

Yes. Because they were the only news station to tell the truth and expose him.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Sep 16, 2014 01:39PM)
Maybe they didn't like Gore giving them competition in the lying department.
Message: Posted by: RNK (Sep 16, 2014 01:44PM)
[quote]On Sep 16, 2014, ed rhodes wrote:
Maybe they didn't like Gore giving them competition in the lying department. [/quote]

Either way, nice you agree Gore lied......
Message: Posted by: Salguod Nairb (Sep 16, 2014 02:07PM)
They're better off in the wild.

[img]http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110420052524/uncyclopedia/images/1/12/Polarbear.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Sep 16, 2014 09:31PM)
How about the baby seals and walruses that they eat ... Oh ... The only bear that stalks humans as a food source.... just sayin'.... :snowman:
Message: Posted by: tommy (Sep 16, 2014 09:36PM)
Spare us the Gore details.
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Sep 16, 2014 09:48PM)
[quote]On Sep 14, 2014, mastermindreader wrote:
That's because the least informed views, as propagated by Fox news on a daily basis, are inevitably repeated as facts here on NVMS by those who receive their only news from FOX and right-wing talk radio. [/quote]

I saw some exceptionally uninformed views around here from those who can't stand Fox News and apparently got their views from news sources on the left, as well. I'm pretty sure it wasn't Fox that said that everybody's health insurance costs would decrease after the ACA passed, for instance.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Sep 16, 2014 10:13PM)
[quote]On Sep 16, 2014, Slim King wrote:
How about the baby seals and walruses that they eat ... Oh ... The only bear that stalks humans as a food source.... just sayin'.... :snowman: [/quote]

Many many years ago I did some work in the Arctic. The company I worked for hired "bear monitors" while we were working in the installation. Inuit with rifles were hired just to watch for polar bears, and shoot if any came by. Never heard them fire a shot, but it was a very odd experience.
Message: Posted by: tommy (Sep 16, 2014 11:38PM)
Watch Iceland's Bardarbunga volcano erupt under the Northern Lights

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/watch-icelands-bardarbungavolcano-erupt-under-the-northern-lights-9736248.html
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Sep 17, 2014 06:06AM)
[quote]On Sep 16, 2014, LobowolfXXX wrote:
[quote]On Sep 14, 2014, mastermindreader wrote:
That's because the least informed views, as propagated by Fox news on a daily basis, are inevitably repeated as facts here on NVMS by those who receive their only news from FOX and right-wing talk radio. [/quote]

I saw some exceptionally uninformed views around here from those who can't stand Fox News and apparently got their views from news sources on the left, as well. I'm pretty sure it wasn't Fox that said that everybody's health insurance costs would decrease after the ACA passed, for instance. [/quote]

Fox told my father that the POTUS said he wouldn't lose his health insurance..... He and 6 million others lost theirs ... Is that the FOX you are talking about guys?
:applause:

And the Polar bears...
http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/04/29/climate-change-polar-bears-threatened-too-much-arctic-ice
Message: Posted by: RNK (Sep 17, 2014 12:22PM)
Another interesting article by FOX- 41% of 603 small business owners said they have delayed hiring because of the federal healthcare law. One in five already cut hours, while 20% have reduced payroll.

Mercer, a human resources consulting company, said its own survey found that 12% of all U.S. employers reported plans to reduce workers’ hours as a direct result of the Affordable Care Act. The impact was more pronounced in the retail and hospitality industries, with 20% of employers saying they will cut part-time hours.

Hmmm. Can't be true- all these 603 small businesses are lying because it's FOX reporting it.

Article here: http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2013/09/11/with-eye-on-obamacare-companies-move-to-cut-workers-hours/
Message: Posted by: RNK (Sep 17, 2014 12:24PM)
Another article saying almost the same thing- WHAT- not from FOX? Can't be! See here; http://www.gallup.com/poll/162386/half-small-businesses-think-health-law-bad.aspx
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Sep 17, 2014 12:44PM)
[quote]On Sep 16, 2014, RNK wrote:
[quote]On Sep 16, 2014, ed rhodes wrote:
Maybe they didn't like Gore giving them competition in the lying department. [/quote]

Either way, nice you agree Gore lied...... [/quote]

Actually, I was just being snarky. I don't know for a fact that Gore lied. I [i][b]do[/i][/b] know that Fox News lies, they even went to court to defend the right.
Message: Posted by: tommy (Sep 17, 2014 01:02PM)
Do you know magicians?
Message: Posted by: RNK (Sep 17, 2014 01:26PM)
[quote]On Sep 17, 2014, ed rhodes wrote:
[quote]On Sep 16, 2014, RNK wrote:
[quote]On Sep 16, 2014, ed rhodes wrote:
Maybe they didn't like Gore giving them competition in the lying department. [/quote]

Either way, nice you agree Gore lied...... [/quote]

Actually, I was just being snarky. I don't know for a fact that Gore lied. I [i][b]do[/i][/b] know that Fox News lies, they even went to court to defend the right. [/quote]

Really? And I thought you had come to the realization like the majority of Americans did about Gore.

My bad....
Message: Posted by: tommy (Sep 17, 2014 03:20PM)
There is one thing you can't accuse Al Gore of which is he got into national politics as a police agent, rewarded with a seat in Congress for running a racist FBI frame-up against an African American political leader, who was trying to stop Nashville police from destroying the community by allowing unhindered narcotics trafficking and prostitution.
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Sep 17, 2014 03:22PM)
Ummm ok. who can we accuse of that then? curious minds want to know.
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Sep 17, 2014 07:16PM)
So there are actually folks here on this thread that still defend Al Gores LIES?????
I pretty much think that the basic problem is this.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a6YdNmK77k
Message: Posted by: HudsonView (Sep 17, 2014 09:28PM)
I voted for Al as did the majority of americans. Unfortunately we got stuck with Bush's lies, which we will be paying for as a nation and as a planet for generations.
Message: Posted by: tommy (Sep 17, 2014 10:12PM)
OK but you can't accuse Al Gore of being caught red-handed blocking the delivery of cheaper drugs to fight AIDS to South Africa and also being on record, particularly in his 1992 book Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit, advocating radical population reduction—even if it means the spreading of pandemic killer diseases such as AIDS to achieve that reduction.