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Topic: Best resources for cups and balls
Message: Posted by: DrewPett (Sep 16, 2014 07:23PM)
I feel like there is already a post about this, but I've searched the Café and sadly, I cannot find what I am looking for. I wanted to know the best resources for learning cups and balls magic. I'm looking specifically for books but DVDS and other mediums are welcome as well. I would also like the entire book to be entirely about cups and balls or at least be a long section of said book. Thanks to all!
Message: Posted by: Ray Haining (Sep 16, 2014 08:04PM)
If you can find a copy of Michael Ammar's "The Complete Cups & Balls," that is absolutely the best book resource for the cups and balls. Unfortunately, it is out of print, but I don't think it is all that rare. I got a copy used.

There is also the two-DVD set by the same name put out by L&L Publishing, which is also outstanding, but I do love the book.
Message: Posted by: tomsk192 (Sep 16, 2014 08:37PM)
[quote]On Sep 17, 2014, DrewPett wrote:
I feel like there is already a post about this, but I've searched the Café and sadly, I cannot find what I am looking for. I wanted to know the best resources for learning cups and balls magic. I'm looking specifically for books but DVDS and other mediums are welcome as well. I would also like the entire book to be entirely about cups and balls or at least be a long section of said book. Thanks to all! [/quote]

Really? You couldn't find over a hundred threads on this topic? Really? How depressing for you.
Message: Posted by: DrewPett (Sep 16, 2014 10:16PM)
To tomsk192,
whoa man, no need to get sassy. I highly apologize that my searching skills are not as good as yours. I went searching through the forums and used the search bar and any way I knew to look and, no, I "really" couldn't find any answers that accurately satiated my appetite for answers. Really. I suppose it is a depressing event, but I am glad that the magic Café is such a great resource for these answers, so I will continue to search for more threads as well as check this one regularly.
To Ray,
Thank you so much for the speedy and helpful response. I will most definitely try to find the Michael Ammar book! Thank you again!
Message: Posted by: yin_howe (Sep 16, 2014 10:47PM)
For books I recommend Michael Ammar's Complete Cups & Balls.
You can get it in Ebook format now.
http://themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=516606&forum=115

The thread below is for DVDs
http://themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=345350&forum=115
Message: Posted by: 55Hudson (Sep 16, 2014 10:53PM)
Michael Aamar's book and DVD cover exactly the same material.
An excellent resource.
Hudson
Message: Posted by: 55Hudson (Sep 16, 2014 10:57PM)
Also Hocus Pocus Jr isn't bad! Fun to read and has the basic pointers.

:-)

Hudson
Message: Posted by: wwhokie1 (Sep 17, 2014 06:51AM)
I would recommend both Michael Ammar and Bob Whites dvds on the cups and balls. I own both of these and would highly recommend them both. Ammar covers a lot more material, while Bob White sticks with the basics but goes into a lot more detail which can be really helpful when starting.

Overall, I would recommend White first, so you can get the basic moves down with the added detail in the instruction and then add the Ammar dvd's if you feel the need for more. If I had to pick only one, I would personally go with White, he will teach you fewer moves, but you will have what you need and you will learn details of good technique that others overlook.

You may also want to check out an upcoming effort by Master Payne. there is a thread about it just a few lines down on this same board "ever so slightly" here is a quick link:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=483723&forum=115
Message: Posted by: BCS (Sep 17, 2014 09:18AM)
Drew,

Good luck perusing the Cups and Balls; below are two links to get you started here at the Café. I find it better to search the Café via Google…

Learning Cups and Balls…
http://tinyurl.com/lzbvmns

Cups and Balls…
http://tinyurl.com/lnmbtwg

Good Luck,
Bruce
Message: Posted by: wwhokie1 (Sep 17, 2014 09:48AM)
I agree with Bruce. I always use Google to search the Café. Type in what you want to search for and also type "magic Café". Works great.
Message: Posted by: DrewPett (Sep 17, 2014 03:54PM)
Thank you all for the great and polite responses! Also thank you for the tip on searching the Café, it helps very much.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Oct 5, 2014 11:31PM)
[quote]On Sep 16, 2014, 55Hudson wrote:
Michael Aamar's book and DVD cover exactly the same material.
An excellent resource.
Hudson [/quote]

Not quite. There is material in the book that is not on the DVD's. Still, the book and the DVD's are excellent resources.

Also, if you go to the cups and balls museum, login, go to the page with the downloads, and you can have the complete Hocus Pocus Jr routine as well as The McWeeney/Proverino translations of Ozanam and Guyot. These are fundamental to the cups and balls. AND THEY ARE COMPLETELY FREE!!!!
Message: Posted by: 55Hudson (Oct 6, 2014 09:07AM)
Bill,
I have both DVD and book from Aamar and it seems they are word for word the same. I didn't go though entire text, since I acquired it after I had already studied the DVDs - I will go back and review the text; perhaps an added chapter?
Hudson
Message: Posted by: 55Hudson (Oct 6, 2014 09:28AM)
Bill,
You are correct (no surprise!). The book includes the Bonus Chapter, with insights from a number of well-known performers. This section is extensive - 60 pages, where the DVD material is covered in 105 pages.
Hudson
Message: Posted by: BeThePlunk (Oct 6, 2014 09:35AM)
DrewPett, I was in your situation about a year and a half ago, and I did tons of searching for instruction. In the end, yes, Ammar and White for DVDs. Both are delightful presentations in their own ways and you'll have enough basic instruction taught well to keep you practicing for years.

Good luck,
David
Message: Posted by: Hydrostevo (Oct 21, 2014 01:17PM)
[quote]On Oct 6, 2014, Bill Palmer wrote:
[quote]On Sep 16, 2014, 55Hudson wrote:
Michael Aamar's book and DVD cover exactly the same material.
An excellent resource.
Hudson [/quote]

Also, if you go to the cups and balls museum, login, go to the page with the downloads, and you can have the complete Hocus Pocus Jr routine as well as The McWeeney/Proverino translations of Ozanam and Guyot. These are fundamental to the cups and balls. AND THEY ARE COMPLETELY FREE!!!! [/quote]

You have to check out the cup and balls museum. Learning from Ozanam and Guyot's text from the 1700's is just awesome. Also check out Ricky Jay's 'History lesson' http://youtu.be/Hgm4wZCACYg it is very cool :)