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Topic: Any reviews: Wonder Silk in Balloon by RYOTA
Message: Posted by: Vraagaard (Oct 13, 2014 04:33AM)
Hi all

This look great. Any reviews???

Wonder Silk in Balloon by RYOTA

A real magic trick demonstrated in various TV programs, Dinner and Floor shows has lifted the bar here by RYOTA!

An unprecedented penetration effect becomes possible.
"Silk in Balloon" is classic magic that has reached the level of the Real Magic at last.

Effect:
The magician begins to blow up one clear balloon.
Nothing is inside.
Tie up the neck of swelled balloon.
Take out a handkerchief from a pocket and push it to the balloon.
Its tip penetrates and goes into a balloon at first.
Continue to push in and finally the whole handkerchief goes into the balloon.
Surely there is no hole on the balloon!
You can show all angels where the handkerchief penetrates and can give it to spectators to examine.

Specially designed Wonder SiB gimmick makes this effect possible.

Key Points:

The balloon is examinable after the performance.
You can perform this from a close up situation to stage.
Wonder SiB gimmick is durable so you can use it for a long time.
All of the necessary items are included so you can practice immediately.
Very practical magic trick.
Product Contents:
Instructional DVD
Set of Gimmick
Silk
Balloon
DVD
Language: Japanese
Subtitle: English
Message: Posted by: MaxfieldsMagic (Oct 15, 2014 12:32AM)
Can't wrap my head around that one. Looks squeaky clean and pretty freakish.
Message: Posted by: stempleton (Oct 18, 2014 06:24PM)
Also would like to hear some first hand reactions to this.
Message: Posted by: MagicBrent (Oct 18, 2014 08:38PM)
So are the balloons special or easy refills? Can we use a cheap silk and give it away as a souvenir?
Message: Posted by: bowers (Oct 19, 2014 09:35PM)
This does look awesome..
Todd
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Oct 19, 2014 10:10PM)
Here is my review for this wonderful trick.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=531485&forum=8
Message: Posted by: blackstone99 (Oct 20, 2014 08:58AM)
Amazing. Thanks for the heads up on this.
Message: Posted by: MaxfieldsMagic (Oct 20, 2014 11:29AM)
[quote]On Oct 19, 2014, Bill Hegbli wrote:
Here is my review for this wonderful trick.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=531485&forum=8 [/quote]

Bill -

It looks like your review is for the Wonder Floating Balloon by Ryota, which came out last year. Nice effect, but it's different than the silk in balloon that is under discussion. Thanks for the link, though - now I'm interested in the floating one as well.

-Scott
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Oct 20, 2014 12:10PM)
My bad! Did not know he came out with another balloon trick. Sorry!

I have to say this is not as good as his 1st offering. To much death grip holding the balloon. Takes to long, unlike the regular Silk In Balloon. I have to pass on this one. His demonstration video was not as fair and unedited as Floating Balloon. This is way over priced for an old balloon secret everyone knows about. Not a fooler, and I don't think will get much good responses from spectator's. Just my opinion of course. I don't have to buy it to see all the pitfalls in this trick.
Message: Posted by: DigaMag (Nov 2, 2014 11:14AM)
Any review about this.... ???
looks promising....
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 3, 2014 09:25PM)
[quote]On Nov 2, 2014, DigaMag wrote:
Any review about this.... ???
looks promising.... [/quote]


I agree it does look good.
Todd
Message: Posted by: MaxfieldsMagic (Nov 5, 2014 07:47PM)
Went ahead and ordered it. I don't do anything like this already, and if it looks half as good in person as in the promo, it'll be a great addition for variety. I'll post thoughts after it arrives.
Message: Posted by: puggo (Nov 13, 2014 08:38AM)
[quote]On Nov 5, 2014, MaxfieldsMagic wrote:
Went ahead and ordered it. I don't do anything like this already, and if it looks half as good in person as in the promo, it'll be a great addition for variety. I'll post thoughts after it arrives. [/quote]

Any thoughts yet?
Thanks
Message: Posted by: The Baldini (Nov 15, 2014 09:57AM)
It does look amazing, and I do not think his closed hand thru most of the performance has anything to do with the effect as WPR claims you end clean.
But at 60 bucks, that's a bit pricey, I was about to order it until I saw that.
Message: Posted by: RNK (Nov 21, 2014 10:13PM)
I received this today. I really like it. It is what I thought it would be and am happy with the purchase. I messed around with it a few times then showed it to my wife and boys (10, 7 and 3). They all really loved it. Its not real difficult to do. Everything used is well hidden during the routine. I would definitely use it on stage/parlour and in a close-up setting. You will have to be a little careful with the angles in close-up but it will work. I did it with my family a few feet from me and it was fine. Instructions on the DVD are easy to follow and well explained. The effect live looks just as it does in the video. I was disappointed to find that it only comes with 5 balloons! For $60.00 I think you should at least have got 10 to 15 balloons. But I already had a bag of 100 lying around. Is it worth $60.00? For what the gimmicks are and for only getting 5 balloons, no. But- it's one of those effects that is well thought out with what's in play that results in a beautiful looking effect. It's an effect that I will use. So on the other hand, you could say it is worth $60.00.

My wife is not easily impressed anymore with most magic but she really liked how this looked live.

RNK
Message: Posted by: Theodore Lawton (Nov 22, 2014 02:45AM)
Thanks for sharing your review RNK.
Message: Posted by: RNK (Nov 22, 2014 08:14AM)
Most welcome. If you have any questions just PM me.

RNK
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Nov 22, 2014 09:07AM)
Yeah, $60 killed it for me too. $25 to $35, yeah. In a heartbeat. I'll pass...

Doug
Message: Posted by: RNK (Nov 24, 2014 02:01PM)
I have to say- I performed this for some adults and kids and they were truly amazed. I understand it is expensive, but the reactions for this are really amazing.

Anybody else perform this yet?

RNK
Message: Posted by: TheMagicOfDean (Nov 26, 2014 07:24AM)
Can you use paper napkins instead? And eventually hand them out as a souvenir?
Message: Posted by: RNK (Nov 26, 2014 08:47AM)
[quote]On Nov 26, 2014, TheMagicOfDean wrote:
Can you use paper napkins instead? And eventually hand them out as a souvenir? [/quote]

Hmmmm... I would say no.
Message: Posted by: Danny Kazam (Dec 2, 2014 09:47AM)
I purchased it. The Dvd is very short and in subtitles with spelling mistakes. The sound on the dvd is all screwed up, but like I said there is subtitles. The effect is not as easy for me as the other poster says it was for him. Angle are not an issue for me. Issue for me is I feel the dvd explanantion is lacking. It uses regular latex balloon and regular silks.

Because of tbe lack of quality on the dvd and the lacking of info, there is no way I can say the price tag is worth it to me. I seriously thought of returning it. I was hoping to use this and then go into needle in balloon as the finale, but I have to buy more balloon to practice with because it only came with four. I used up all my balloons practicing.
Message: Posted by: Danny Kazam (Dec 2, 2014 09:48AM)
[quote]On Nov 26, 2014, RNK wrote:
[quote]On Nov 26, 2014, TheMagicOfDean wrote:
Can you use paper napkins instead? And eventually hand them out as a souvenir? [/quote]

Hmmmm... I would say no. [/quote]

Why would you say no RNK.
Message: Posted by: MaxfieldsMagic (Dec 2, 2014 07:21PM)
I purchased this and am very happy with it. Haven't tried it out on real people yet, but it looks pretty convincing in the mirror. I ordered two bags of needle-in-balloon balloons at the same time, so have plenty to practice with.

Personally, I think the DVD covers everything you need to know about the effect and handling. Yes, it's a short DVD, but it's thorough and there's no fluff. Had to watch it a few times with balloon in hand to pick up on all of the little handling subtleties.

It would be nice if you could purchase additional gimmicks at a reasonable price so you could have a bunch of these in your pocket ready to go. Absent that option, I'm exploring a couple of ideas for making gimmicks that accomplish the same task.

Like the newspaper tear, this is a quick, very visual effect that is simple to understand and really looks impossible. And it's completely examinable. Regardless of how you feel about handing out props for examination, I'm guessing that in this particular case the examination phase is an essential convincer, plus it gives you a moment to clean up.

While playing around with this, one idea that occurred to me would be to start off with making a rather ornate balloon animal, like the one of two doves kissing while perched on a big red heart. After handing that out to a couple, blow this one up and proudly announce that it's a balloon sculpture of a comet, which will hopefully at least get a chuckle. Comets, of course, are composed of the oldest "stem cell" elements that we know of, and we are only now beginning to study their unique properties. By the time you get the handkerchief out and they realize you're doing a trick, you'll already have done the initial dirty. Anyway, that's one idea.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 6, 2014 11:16AM)
Thanks for the reviews guys.
Its on my Christmas list.
Todd
Message: Posted by: Danny Kazam (Dec 6, 2014 07:31PM)
RNK was kind enough to email me and give me advice on the handling. My DVD is all screwed up and wasn't able to read all the subtitles properly. Thanks to RNK I am now good to go.
Message: Posted by: RNK (Dec 9, 2014 11:59AM)
I performed this with kids/adults about 3 to 4 feet away from me. I have to applaud the huge reactions this got. Everyone was truly amazed! This is one of those effects for me that is a lot of fun to perform. I am going to give this a go at a corporate Christmas party this Friday. It will interesting to see how a bunch of engineers and consultants view this effect.

RNK
Message: Posted by: colacadstink (Dec 9, 2014 02:54PM)
If I'm walking around at a party with balloons that are already inflated, can I use one of them for this effect? In other words, can I use a borrowed balloon?
Message: Posted by: RNK (Dec 10, 2014 07:24AM)
[quote]On Dec 9, 2014, colacadstink wrote:
If I'm walking around at a party with balloons that are already inflated, can I use one of them for this effect? In other words, can I use a borrowed balloon? [/quote]

No
Message: Posted by: Danny Kazam (Dec 16, 2014 11:56AM)
I can't believe how well this played in front of children at a recent Christmas show I performed. Started with putting the silk in balloon which got a lot of vocal "Wooow", then performed needle though the same balloon which got more of the same response. I ended it with restored balloon, (bobo switch version) and handed out the balloon to one of the children to keep. I think I should of used it as my closer because it got the best reaction from all the children and even parents.
Message: Posted by: RNK (Dec 16, 2014 01:50PM)
[quote]On Dec 16, 2014, Danny Kazam wrote:
I can't believe how well this played in front of children at a recent Christmas show I performed. Started with putting the silk in balloon which got a lot of vocal "Wooow", then performed needle though the same balloon which got more of the same response. I ended it with restored balloon, (bobo switch version) and handed out the balloon to one of the children to keep. I think I should of used it as my closer because it got the best reaction from all the children and even parents. [/quote]


Love the idea of restoring the balloon to hand out Danny! But I agree that this effect gets super reactions. I just used it during a corporate strolling gig Friday and it was a huge hit with everybody. This effect is a definite winner for kids and adults IMO.

RNK
Message: Posted by: Danny Kazam (Dec 16, 2014 03:00PM)
I have you to thank RNK. :) Otherwise it would of been thrown in my drawer. I should of also mentioned that after I do the needle in balloon I then toss the balloon in the air and pop it with the needle, then restore it.
Message: Posted by: Theodore Lawton (Dec 16, 2014 06:14PM)
Okay, I ordered it! Merry Christmas to me! :D
Message: Posted by: RNK (Dec 17, 2014 08:59AM)
[quote]On Dec 16, 2014, Danny Kazam wrote:
I have you to thank RNK. :) Otherwise it would of been thrown in my drawer. I should of also mentioned that after I do the needle in balloon I then toss the balloon in the air and pop it with the needle, then restore it. [/quote]

Most welcome Danny!

I am surprised there is not more of a buzz about this judging by the amazing reactions I have received performing it. I feel this one of the most visual and impossible looking magic effects that's out there.

RNK
Message: Posted by: Theodore Lawton (Dec 17, 2014 10:01AM)
I think it looks awesome and it isn't cards, coins or cups; it's something completely different. I like the fact that it can be done close up or at a birthday party and can even be given away. I'm with you RNK, it's surprising that there isn't more buzz. Probably sticker shock.
Message: Posted by: RNK (Dec 17, 2014 10:38AM)
I agree- at first I thought the price was high. Part of me still does a little but after experiencing the impact this has I really don't think it is. This effect is magic at it's best- visual and impossible looking. And I agree Theodore- something different than the usual that can be performed in any situation. I was not going to purchase it at first but I contacted Devin Knight who has never steered me wrong and asked what his thoughts were on this. He simply replied- it's very good and you WILL use it. Well- he wasn't wrong!

RNK
Message: Posted by: Theodore Lawton (Dec 23, 2014 01:49AM)
Okay, now that I have it I must say I agree completely with RNK's review.

Is it worth 60 dollars for the gimmicks? No.

Is it worth 60 dollars for a beautiful piece of magic that you WILL perform? YES!

The DVD is clear, there isn't much to it besides practice in front of a mirror to get your handling down. But this has the potential to play just as everyone has been saying it plays- huge! This looks like real magic.

Danny- your idea of combining it with needle thru balloon and restored balloon are excellent!

:hotcoffee:
Message: Posted by: wally (May 18, 2015 02:38AM)
I have lost my gimmicks for SIB, still looking fo some more. I have contacted Ryota about a month ago, he has none in stock????
Message: Posted by: smitty (Jun 21, 2015 02:50PM)
Well everyone, Thank You so much for your reviews and feedback on WSiB. I just discovered this effect on Penguin a few days ago. I have pretty much been out of the 'magic loop', for the better part of 15 years. I performed magic from 77 to 2000, adding in Balloon Twisting in 85. By 2000 all my emails & calls were for Balloon Twisting. My magic got packed away for years. Since January of this year I have been giving Serious thot to getting back into magic, to add more Variety & Value to what I do. Plus, I REALLY miss it, being my 'roots' for Entertaining. Since I've been a Balloon Twister for 30 yrs, I decided about 2 wks ago to put together a Full Show all with Balloons. I can either take a break from Line Work and do a trick or two, OR, I can advertise a full 30 - 60 minute show, once it's ready. I've been scouring the Internet looking for ideas of good tricks with Balloons. I was on Penguins site a few days ago and typed in Magic with Balloons. Several ideas came up, one with Ian Garrison, and of course Latex and Detach, all of which I have already purchased. Then I saw thie WSIB and watched the Trailer. It floored me and I went to order, and then saw 60.00. I'm in Canada, so it's going to be over 70.00 plus shipping, so closer to over 80.00. In looking at this, a short DVD, a gimmick, and 4 or 5 balloons, I was thinking 29.95 or 34.95 would be reasonable. I already have Balloons. Some of the reviews here have 'almost' convinced me to invest the possible 80.00 bucks. I was hoping 'maybe' to find it cheaper on the Magic Auction, which I just got an email from, but not there yet, haha. Just not sure I want to drop 80 bucks on this.
Message: Posted by: The Baldini (Jun 27, 2015 11:25AM)
How would this fit a strolling situation, any feed back would be great.

thanks Dave
Message: Posted by: slydinirules (Oct 30, 2015 04:10PM)
I have to agree with Bill Hegbli's review. The un-natural way you have to set this up and hold on to the balloon is just unnatural to me. I thought this might be a nice strolling piece but the reset, etc? Not really feeling it.
Message: Posted by: Peter X (Sep 23, 2020 07:17PM)
Hi. Can I use a playing card instead of the silk? Or a silk with a card printed on it?